#Allow Vampire role to be CS Swapped + Interactions

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mystic marlin
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We don't consider balance here because a mode with both Vampire and Cursed Soul is absolutely not made with balance in mind anyways. Difficulty to code could become an issue though.

The Vampire role will always start on the Vampire faction, but can be swapped by CS.
Once the Vampire role dies, regardless of what faction it was on, a new Vampire role will be generated in the Vampire faction using the existing mechanics.

Any faction with a night chat (Coven, Apocalypse, Cursed Souls, Pandora, Compliance) will be able to convert other Town members to their faction.
Any faction without a night chat (besides Town) will be able to convert other Town members to their faction. The converted player is revealed to the Vampire on a successful convert, but the converted player doesn't learn the Vampire's identity.
Town aligned Vampires will always deal a Basic Attack to their target instead of converting.

limber kelp
wraith marsh
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“We don’t consider balance here”

considers balance by not allowing town vamp to work

mystic marlin
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Who would town vamp even convert

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Non night chat people have defense, night chat people would be hard to just pull out of it

gleaming dragon
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this doesnt work

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because

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vampire promotion is a thing

wraith marsh
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Duplicate the vampire smh

mystic marlin
gleaming dragon
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you were promoted to a mafioso

wraith marsh
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Theoretically this could work but what is the point

mystic marlin
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Would it be hard to check all players instead of just vamp faction for an existing vamp role or

wraith marsh
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say coven steals vamp and their promotion system, you just gain a bunch of coven instead which isn’t really that fun.

mystic marlin
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Coven doesn't steal promotion

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Once coven vamp dies the new vamp is on vamp faction

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They only steal convert

wraith marsh
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They probably shouldn’t convert either

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Otherwise this would be fine

mystic marlin
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If they didn't convert itd just screw over vamp faction while basically just getting defenseless nk

wraith marsh
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Ngl town vamp is a lot funnier

mystic marlin
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it is but would just be difficult to code i think

wraith marsh
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basic attack every night on top of coven/bers kill

mystic marlin
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then again why consider balance in a list with 2 NS

wraith marsh
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Part of what I like about vampire and CS is that they are pretty clean mechanically

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this kinda just throws that out the window for a very niche interaction

rigid pike
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DONT UNBALENCE TAA JUST CAUSE ITS CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dusk thorn
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if we're making an unswappable swappable

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NP + Ego

wraith marsh
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Honestly, allow Jester and exe to get swapped as well. Factional Jester would work the same but not win.

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Exe wouldn’t leave

mystic marlin
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i dont see how exe would work but for jest it could work i think

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just with jest faction you win on hang and with jest role you haunt on hang but not necessarily win

dusk thorn
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if anything

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Jester and Inquisitor would work

zealous zenith
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how would jester aligned vampire work

frosty creek
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makes more jesters

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I dont think vampire should be swappable