Wildling Buff - Permasense & Improved Echoes

[sage light]

Wildling - Coven Utility

Attack: None Defense: None
Abilities
Sense a player's house
Use your Echoes to relay information

Sense

Visit a player and permanently Sense them
At the end of each night, you will learn who visits them and who they visit

Echoes (Passive)

Your Known Allies will learn your Sensed information
Your Known Allies will also be able to overhear whispers
Echoes will last until you die or go out of play
Being Reanimated will bring this back in play until sunset

Attributes

With the Necronomicon, you may visit a player to attack them
You & Your Teammates start out Sensed
You will passively overhear whispers

TLDR

• Echoes shows all observed info to it's known allies
• Echoes will let its known allies overhear whispers
• Sense is now permanent

Small buff to help expand on Echoes to be more actionable for everyone in the team
Also readds permasense because Wildling would still be dogshit without it

PM / Witch reveals are shown to the Coven, im not sure why Wildling information isn’t

[tulip flint]

"You will learn them" 🔥 ✍️

[sage light]

yes

i fixed it

regardless you knew what i meant

[sharp zealot]

yeah this seems like an appropiate buff

[gleaming vapor]

bit strong

n3 and you're gonna have 3 tracker info and 7 lookout info

for the whole team

[sage light]

visit information isn’t very helpful usually

[gleaming vapor]

The Ritualist after finding every single TS and TK's role n3:

[sage light]

unless you have an indecisive protective running around

[inland ingot]

Holy I thought this was a temporary jumpscare

[sage light]

you would rather have a PM and wait two nights

[inland ingot]

anything with wildling on it = temporary

[sage light]

first non temporary wildling post in several months

[gleaming vapor]

If you visit info isn't very helpful then all you're doing is making a bigger claimbag

🤷‍♂️

[sage light]

because none of it is actionable lol

[gleaming vapor]

Should covens info really be so dramatically different give or take one particular role? This feels like it could dramatically change player's playstyle.

[sage light]

by time you see it, its too late to do anything about it unless you want to prepare a 1f1 slightly faster

[gleaming vapor]

Knowing self visits is actually crazy strong now that I think about it

Having advanced notice for any TI checking you

I mean if you see the tracker you instantly know to make sure your fake visits line up, or to think of an excuse FAST if it outs you

CK is seen? Make sure to post your visit and go “aw dang it he died too” before the tracker does

Or just fake mass hysteria, whatever you want

lol did I just downgrade purple deputy’s reaction

[distant badger]

mid

stop trying to fucking improve the claim bag and just give it actual utility

😭

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867981473024716803/1252086404272623646/LOLLL.gif

[crimson trellis]

Wait

does Town seen echoes when Town Wildling exists?

wtf

[sage light]

i mean i don’t think making the information more accessible for everyone on the team and everyone being able to see the info without wildling needing to say every visit is “only improving claimbag”

yeah sure it affects it since non wildling coven can now claim these roles

but at what point will it stop having to be a buff and instead a full ass overhaul

[sage light]

if making the flow of information more accessible for everyone who the wildling is aligned with is “too claimbaggy” then idk what to do anymore

[sage light]

known allies

so no

[crimson trellis]

So Revealed Mayor Sees?

Revealed Town Mayor?

prob not

[sage light]

no

what if they are converted

revealed townies aren’t 100% known allies in every case

[crimson trellis]

well ok then

[sage light]

regardless town wildling will still be incredibly strong

(all coven and og wildling start out sensed)

[crimson trellis]

GG to coven they get outed instantly

[undone dagger]

jackal games (rec wildling)

by that excuse your teammates shouldnt get it either

[sage light]

rec wildling shows it to coven still

recruits register as their og faction

[gleaming vapor]

the entire team preemptively knowing if any given TI checks you before they can speak is incredibly strong

[tulip flint]

Isn't that was Echos is

The thing that was added

[sage light]

1. 5 seconds in advance still isn’t very actionable
2. Isn’t that what current echoes is

[gleaming vapor]

5 seconds before whispering maybe, good 10-30 seconds before anyone can actually speak publicly

[sage light]

depends on how many people died

[gleaming vapor]

I don't know what current echos is

[sage light]

team learns who visited them

thats it

[tulip flint]

Teammates of the Wildling know who visited them at night

[gleaming vapor]

I've never heard of this ???

[sage light]

ill find it for you

[tulip flint]

I only remember it from a Teams game

[gleaming vapor]

NAHHHHH

[sage light]

its a very failed experiment

[gleaming vapor]

This sounds awful

[sage light]

all this post is asking for is permasense to come back and to make echoes not as abysmally dogshit

[gleaming vapor]

Echos sounds like a horrid idea

This update has literally nothing I like except for Admirer, and the changes to Amne and Retri that I thought already worked that way 💀