Make players terrified of jester again

[ornate dock]

this does not fix the issue with jester and actually makes it WORSE

[unique sigil]

How so

[wise anvil]

Why do you need to have more of an effect on the game when you are dead?

[ornate dock]

the issue with jester is that it's an evil you can't get rid of

[wise anvil]

Changing people's alignment is a whole Neutral Special

[ornate dock]

this adds more jesters

[stiff plaza]

I think the current prevailing opinion about Jester is that Jester is a role is bad

Not in the it's hard to win

[ornate dock]

its win condition is detrimental to the game

[stiff plaza]

in that it forces town to make a decision on every evil player

[unique sigil]

This is why I removed the armor

[unique sigil]

This is the point of Jester

[wise anvil]

I mean, yeah. But its fun to play so it won't be removed. Still, the biggest problem by far is haunting evils for pushing mislynches.

[stiff plaza]

That doesn't make it good

[stiff plaza]

The biggest problem for town is that you can get punished for hanging an evil

[wise anvil]

Haunting a town only costs a smaller percent of life

[ornate dock]

and if town doesn't roll a vigilante or jailor?

[wise anvil]

That's also true but

[unique sigil]

Giving Jesters more playing time and making peeps more scared of them to encourage more skill

[wise anvil]

percentages

[unique sigil]

evil roles also exist

[quaint magnet]

@unique sigil has leveled up! (2 ➜ 3)

[minor prairie]

If this was just the title I would like it

but not the suggestion itself

[wise anvil]

bro im not gonna lie, this is so cursed that every evil in JR is going to claim jester on the stand

[ornate dock]

and if you think that the point of jester is to be a detriment to the game, then that's... an opinion.

[minor prairie]

People let jester get by too often

[wise anvil]

this is some GOBLIN work

INSANE WORK

[ornate dock]

why would evils want to remove a jester they know exists.

[wise anvil]

Every single evil will claim jester, EVEN THE JESTER

[unique sigil]

Because Jester is Neutral, and Jester can hurt them in both this new way and the old way

[unique sigil]

This would provoke attacks given that jester cant gain armor

[unique sigil]

Neutral Evil, not Neutral Support

[somber breach]

Mods, publicly execute this creature

[ornate dock]

but pushing a jester is more beneficial to evils because it both potentially kills a townie, and it wastes a day's trial so coven can plan for majority

[copper condor]

If I'm correct with the wording, For every Jester hung every following Night a Random player becomes Jester, So Jester is a virus that takes over town???

[quaint magnet]

@copper condor has leveled up! (16 ➜ 17)

[unique sigil]

Yes

[ornate dock]

i said detriment to the game, as in to the game's balance. not to the players.

[wise anvil]

if evils spend time trying to hunt for Jester, they will lose the game to Town. This is a fact.

[ornate dock]

jester existing makes the game worse.

[wise anvil]

Like

you survived the haunt

good job

but you lost

[unique sigil]

Yes

[ornate dock]

i had a whole rant about jester but i didn't post it in this server

[copper condor]

ok this is funny

so now assumming 2 Jester are hung

[wise anvil]

Yes.

[unique sigil]

There's no gauranteed fact only evils will hunt jesters

[copper condor]

5 players left and no one kills

[wise anvil]

Yes there is.

How does Town get rid of a Jester?

[unique sigil]

Tk???

[copper condor]

4 players will become Jesters and the last 1 will win by random

[wise anvil]

the TK that died?

[ornate dock]

the veteran? the trickster?

[unique sigil]

There can be more than 1 tk

[wise anvil]

^

[ornate dock]

or maybe the prosecutor and monarch!

[copper condor]

Towns should hang Jester

[ornate dock]

yeah, that marshal's doing some good work, removing the jester and dying in the process

[copper condor]

cause Jester now converts Coven into Jester

[unique sigil]

This isn't gauranteed i must say

[wise anvil]

The VETERAN.

@unique sigil big guy, my point is that TK won't always roll Vigilante.

[copper condor]

It happenes every night

[wise anvil]

The craziest shit is that you are 100% right

LOL

[ornate dock]

and also, sometimes TKs don't want to kill jesters!

[wise anvil]

good pig sweep

[ornate dock]

there are typically bigger priorities

a jailor shouldn't be ignoring coven to go after jesters

[wise anvil]

Coven AND Jackal are running around

Jester doesn't spawn in ApocTT

[unique sigil]

Then ignore jest

What're they gonna do?

[wise anvil]

Okay

but every evil

[ornate dock]

vote with coven

[wise anvil]

is pretending to be a Jester now

because this is so borked it's funny

[unique sigil]

Visiting and sus checks disprove jester claims

[copper condor]

Jester claims only really work in AA

[wise anvil]

You are right but...

Not when Jester is this broken

[ornate dock]

oh, perfect, more roles that aren't guaranteed to spawn

[copper condor]

As I said Town should hang a Jester

[ornate dock]

also coven can pass the necronomicon so the sheriff is a moot point

[unique sigil]

this is a good jester move if they can scumread coven but if they commune with whispers this can out covs

[copper condor]

This Jester should claim D2, Town Should hang them and them hang more Jesters

[unique sigil]

Could potentially also have Jester appear as inno in all TI checks, since jester ingame is just a guy that fucks around

im open to suggestions

[ornate dock]

by the time coven has majority, you know who they are

[unique sigil]

This is an assumption of scenario in a game where scenarios are generated by chance

[ornate dock]

there is only one solution that fixes the problems jester brings to the game, and that is to pull the plug. however, that's not an option because "my silly haha role" so we're forced to deliberate on a "next best thing" solution instead.

[copper condor]

Also the this is town Should hang Jester cause town will statistaclly win, but only 1 or 2 Town will win because hte rest become Jester

[copper condor]

GIve it the Pirate treatment

[unique sigil]

Statistically i guess it is in town's favor

[ornate dock]

surprisingly, putting a role in a box and pretending it doesn't exist does nothing to actually fix the issues the role causes. pirate is still the worst role in btos2.

[somber breach]

Make Jester OG Pirate

[unique sigil]

Jesters are important, just like exes. We shouldn't remove roles because we have to doubt ourselves on what someone is

[ornate dock]

pirate isn't going to go away because people still vote TAA

[copper condor]

I meant vinella making Pirate Inquitser as incompletly change it

[unique sigil]

Pirate was always an akward role and im glad it got the rework in base TOS2

[somber breach]

Pirate went from my favorite role to my favorite role

[ornate dock]

the purpose executioner serves is to make town doubt their own team, since deception isn't good enough that TI results can be consistently doubted otherwise. the purpose jester serves is to make town doubt players acting suspicious. this is not equal, because if jester actually did what it was supposed to do, the game would slow to a fucking CRAWL.

[copper condor]

TOWN MUST hang all Jester claims or they cant win

[ornate dock]

these cannot be compared in good faith, because what jester brings to the game is unhealthy. it discourages scumreading and social deduction, and makes players rely entirely on mechanical checks, and when you're making a social deduction game that's not exactly great.

[somber breach]

Make Jester Chatterbox have a minimum of 34

[gusty light]

is this jester vampire

[unique sigil]

There are ways to scumread someone as jester

[gusty light]

sob

[copper condor]

I disagree slightly, Jester works really well in some SD games like Among us but can't work in TOS envornment

[gusty light]

yes tell me a 100% method to differentiate an evil from a jester

[unique sigil]

whispers

[somber breach]

Seer

[copper condor]

PM

[unique sigil]

Voting

[ornate dock]

jesters can whisper

and vote

[ornate dock]

oops, we didn't roll any seers! better luck next time!

[gusty light]

[unique sigil]

yes but a jesters not gonna whisper a confirmed PM 3 times in one day consistently

[gusty light]

seer sees jester as town so it can still be bad info lmao

[somber breach]

Your target is a paranoid war hero. They must be a 🏅 Veteran!

[wise anvil]

yeah, making an evil into a jester will mean he can legally out his teammates, theres no reason not to

[gusty light]

Veteran - Outsider

[unique sigil]

Also, Jesters will struggle to have a pattern in their poor voting since they don't actually know all the evils in the game

[ornate dock]

a jester will do anything it takes to appear evil. so a player who is evil and outed will do anything to appear like a shitty jester who's trying too hard. if you actually didn't hang players who seemed like jesters, nothing would get done.

[copper condor]

this conf them as Jest they cant win

[wise anvil]

They can win if they trade it

[copper condor]

hmm

[wise anvil]

you can do a deal

it's possible

[copper condor]

yah

[unique sigil]

Another reason why evils might hurt jesters

[gusty light]

not in a healthy way

[copper condor]

but as I've said Town Should hang like 2 Jesters each game to have the highest chance of winning

[gusty light]

its you must kill the jester or you have them threatening to collapse the entire scumteam

[ornate dock]

hanging a jester is wasting a trial, so an evil killing a known jester instead of letting them get hanged is actively sabotaging their own win condition

[unique sigil]

Unless there's a risk of jester hurting that evil

which, there always is in both versions

[copper condor]

No every day someone new becomes a Jester at some point only one person will not be Jester and this person is statistically likly to be town

[unique sigil]

Again, I'm open to suggestions, but im hearing a lot more critics instead of those

[copper condor]

Make it once

Jester Haunts a Guilty Voter and turns them into a Jester

[unique sigil]

I was trying to push the "keep the players playing" thing but i can see this being it

[copper condor]

after a Jester is hung i really dont need them to keep playing

[unique sigil]

there's no need, but an option is what i was aiming for

[copper condor]

theve won they can gloat root on other NEs or just leave

[frozen lava]

Omg what

This makes people jester

👎

[copper condor]

every day after they are hung

[frozen lava]

Why would anyone think more jesters is fun

[frozen lava]

Yeah ik its even worse

[unique sigil]

Its to make jester scarier

[copper condor]

For every Jester hung, every night that many new players become Jester

[unique sigil]

no more "give jesters free win" nonsense

[frozen lava]

It makes it annoying

[copper condor]

TOWN SHOULD HANG JESTERS

[unique sigil]

like how a jester would be?

[frozen lava]

Evils/town shouldn't become jester it then just make it unfair

[unique sigil]

Good Pig made an argument that statistically town should hang jesters as less evils need to be haunted for town to win than town to be haunted for evils

[frozen lava]

We don't want jester becoming a plague given to others

Thats just bad design

[unique sigil]

sounds like a good reason not to hang jester then

[copper condor]

but...

Town wins

[unique sigil]

bad design is peeps giving the role who needs to be hanged the free win

[copper condor]

(statistically)

[frozen lava]

No... It makes just unfun to play agents

[copper condor]

Jester can never work in TOS2

[frozen lava]

It could

[stiff plaza]

bad design is having jester in the game

[copper condor]

so Just remove Haunt and be done with it

[frozen lava]

But this is the worst way to go with it

💀

I really think this is a bait

[unique sigil]

Like stated before I'm open to sugesstions, but Pig is the only one to give any

[frozen lava]

Good pig u do baits how good is this bait

[copper condor]

Solo winning game ending Jester is better than this

[copper condor]

Ive never baited

[unique sigil]

This seems to be the majority opinion, I may make another post sugessting it for the hell of it

[frozen lava]

My guys your being like the rest of us and having your feet in the mud

[frozen lava]

Hmmhm #1345819060994183228

[copper condor]

I forgot about Haunt, and it would still be fun

[unique sigil]

I gave my idea and people gave reason why it would not be welcomed, its not a crime to change ideals

[copper condor]

*funny

[wise anvil]

Yeah it is funny

[frozen lava]

Not fun to play vs
And coven to jest would know all coven

Thats just going to be a hell i dont want to see

[unique sigil]

I forgot to mention i intended for jester to also be unique but im unsure if that drastically affects the fake claiming scenario

[copper condor]

This ruins the game after a Jester gets hung, and you cant convert factional evils which ruins the point

[frozen lava]

But the role can effect others into jest

[copper condor]

D4 2 Jesters hung, oh look 2 new Jesters (:

[frozen lava]

Being unique doesn't make it better

[somber breach]

Make everyone who guiltied a Jester get the Vanilla CS win con
Win Conditions:

• You cannot win.

[frozen lava]

[copper condor]

Surv gamming maker

[frozen lava]

Nah make all guiltys turn into surv

[unique sigil]

innoing exists but i see your point

and killing

[frozen lava]

Plz no that is def a joke

[copper condor]

nah let them have abilies and become CS aligned (villila)

[copper condor]

The point would have been this is so bad you may as well do this... Innoing was kinda part of the 'design'

[humble dome]

Fuck Jester

Why the fuck are we making it better

[unique sigil]

Maybe jester can only exist as what Exe turns into and not a role that can appears at the start of the game

[humble dome]

it needs to be gone or changed

[unique sigil]

base jester, that is

[humble dome]

current jester is shit

and this doesnt make it better

[frozen lava]

This makes it worse

[unique sigil]

Okay damn i hear you

[copper condor]

exe shouldn't become jest

[crisp peak]

Maybe limit it to like turning one player to a jester

[copper condor]

(Is this whats it like talking to me?)

[crisp peak]

Because every night seems a bit op

[unique sigil]

Good pig suggested this earlier, im ruminating on it

[frozen lava]

Imagine being coven and then becoming a jester now u need your own faction to let u win thats not eve cof to happen

[humble dome]

WHY THE FUCK are we making jesters SHIT nieche stronger. it NEEDS TO BE GONE NOT BUFFED

[crisp peak]

I didn’t see that before, mbmb, listen to good pig imo

[unique sigil]

hanging jest must reap punishment

[humble dome]

The issue with jester is that its shit role design

fun for me but not for thee

ahh role

[frozen lava]

[unique sigil]

I can tell this is the common belief, i considered making a bait post on suggesting it should be deleted lol

[stiff plaza]

Why not have no punishment for hanging jester?

If we must keep jester in the game

[gusty light]

bad news

i just posted one suggesting to delete it

[unique sigil]

then whats the point of not hanging jest

[frozen lava]

No the punishment is worse then before

[stiff plaza]

Hanging jest instead of evil wastes town's time

[unique sigil]

beat me to it

[stiff plaza]

That's punishment enough already

[humble dome]

Jesters punishment should be nullified or switched to being a special spawn

[frozen lava]

Someone each night willl become a jester and to win like one

[humble dome]

(NS)

[stiff plaza]

That's what I'm saying, remove haunt entirely

[unique sigil]

Like an apoc transformation?

[frozen lava]

👎

[stiff plaza]

moved into the neutral special category

is what they're saying

[frozen lava]

Ne pirate

[humble dome]

what i suggested for jest was

[unique sigil]

this is true but its clear no one cares since many townies say "give jest free win"

[humble dome]

Cuz dying for being correct is bullshit

[stiff plaza]

bc you hang evils in tos

so i'm ok with it

[gusty light]

what if you kill it with hammers instead

[copper condor]

Jester doesn't need punishment

[humble dome]

They are forced to

[frozen lava]

Me after the sus guy was jest 😨

[copper condor]

but then they just claim... o

[gusty light]

but then "im jester hang me"

[copper condor]

yah

[gusty light]

no matter what you do jester will not work

[frozen lava]

They need todo something

[copper condor]

exactly

[humble dome]

Jester doesnt work without punishment and jester doesnt work with punishmenmt

[stiff plaza]

TRUE

[humble dome]

what you guys are saying doesnt work

[stiff plaza]

I'd just rather jester without haunt if we must have it in the game

[humble dome]

its better to lessen it

[stiff plaza]

Would it produce "I'm jester hang me"

yes

[copper condor]

#GiveJesterPirateToInquisterTreatment

[stiff plaza]

but i'm fine with that tbh

[ornate dock]

actual neutral benign

[frozen lava]

They won't get rid of jester tho

[ornate dock]

that's survivor bro 😭

[frozen lava]

Nice a pee pirate

Lol

[unique sigil]

being fine with something doesn't euqal good design or engaging discussion

[copper condor]

yah its a just an evil that town needs to hang at some point

[humble dome]

Jester with no punishment is just survivor

[copper condor]

Maybe Jester only wins if they get 80% votes or smth

[humble dome]

we dont need surv 2.0

[unique sigil]

Lagspike has their anti-jest post up, I've thumbs upped it if this discussion would like to transition there

[frozen lava]

That doesn't sound like a fair thing

[unique sigil]

This post has sparked good discussion anyways so i'll be deleting it soon

[frozen lava]

Plus u only need 50% to win a game as jest

[copper condor]

you cant

[gusty light]

punishing people for the jester wincon is bad

[frozen lava]

Why?

[gusty light]

not punishing them is also bad

[stiff plaza]

actually straight up this might be a good idea

[frozen lava]

We are allowed to talk in the comments

[humble dome]

that is not good

at all

[stiff plaza]

Remove haunt, jester must receive over x% of votes to win

[frozen lava]

😭

[unique sigil]

I can see i can delete the post message, but it'll keep the post up?

[humble dome]

That just makes jester get meta gamed

and it will never win

people will meta around it

[unique sigil]

Things have come out of this, i don't want it to be spread more negativity

[unique sigil]

i kinda fw it

[frozen lava]

What if u idk get silenced for a day

[ornate dock]

again, that's just survivor

[gusty light]

yes

[copper condor]

fw?

[gusty light]

damned if you do, damned if you dont

[unique sigil]

fuck with, way to say i like it

Reminds me of that jackbos game, "Split the room"

[frozen lava]

U haven't need btos2 fan

[copper condor]

Its interesting

[unique sigil]

What if Jester needs to have the vote be within a 60%-40% split to win, either being innoed or guiltied

[unique sigil]

what

[frozen lava]

Wdym what?

[copper condor]

uhhh? now this is interetiing?

[unique sigil]

was this your way of saying iw ouldn't need to do that or do you imply something else

[frozen lava]

U need 51% to win

As 50% is half guilty and half inno

[copper condor]

its a suggestion

[unique sigil]

an exact 50% would be quite difficult, and the number of townies wouldn't always align

[frozen lava]

Im saying everything gets thumbed down most of the time (negativity spreads much faster then positively)

[copper condor]

He means this server is toxic, but just listen and become more competitve and adventially youll understand

[humble dome]

^

[frozen lava]

Yeah so don't use numbers or % (im bad a math)

[unique sigil]

im afraid we've moved past that point in discussion, there's new food on the table

[copper condor]

Calculator NE

Get given an Algebra problem:

Solve it before you die to win

[frozen lava]

🔥

[unique sigil]

Maybe like exe where Jesters needs 1 person to guilty them but 1 other person to inno at the same time?

if one of them dies new target randomly assigned

[somber breach]

People don't like Jester because it punishes people for hanging it

What if:
Jester haunted innos (and abstains)?

[frozen lava]

So in a tie u still would get hanged

[humble dome]

Jester will never work

[frozen lava]

I like that as a passive

[humble dome]

❌

[unique sigil]

might be true but there's another post for that

[copper condor]

Every discuussion will become #off-topic expecet nothing different

[frozen lava]

That would just make everyone guilty all ways

[humble dome]

Jester is a shit role and anyone who thinks its healthy for the game is shit at the game

[copper condor]

it really wont tho

[frozen lava]

Your right lets hang jailor

[unique sigil]

i dont think thats true but i do think it would become a passive thing

[humble dome]

It would 100% get metagamed

[unique sigil]

Sometimes it affects hanging but not always

[copper condor]

if something is unfixable and unremovable bandgae it

[humble dome]

This is the same game series where people would write names in wills to fuck over disguiser

its going to get meta gamed

[copper condor]

Is that why ppl put names in wills?

[humble dome]

yes

[copper condor]

omg

[humble dome]

just a die hard habit for me now

[frozen lava]

Same

[ornate dock]

i do it in tos1 to fit in but not in tos2

[frozen lava]

I saw others do it so i just followed

[unique sigil]

I made this suggestion but I'm seeing no replies, instead there's a lot of focus on doomer takes

[frozen lava]

I wish we could have the forge someone as pm to out others again that was fun

[copper condor]

Secret Killers

[frozen lava]

In aa obv

I love aa

[copper condor]

I mean but where are there any brains?

[frozen lava]

Anything that makes people into jesters isn't a good thing

[unique sigil]

I'd change the haunting aspect as with this way there's no gauarntee to be guiltied

[copper condor]

What about Coven aligned Jesters? how would that work?

[frozen lava]

Im about to rost this pig
Could say the same about your suggestions

[unique sigil]

also jester needing to be guiltied doesn't seem to be the acceptable way for it to function

Both of you have given good input

[copper condor]

I like to be surownded by brains almost feels like i have 1

[frozen lava]

Jokes on u i have 10

(cells)

🤣

[copper condor]

lol

[heavy dawn]

Make it so you can accuse someone of being jester with a separate vote from normal lynching. If you are wrong jester wins everyone else loses and the game ends. Jester also wins if you just lynch him normally ending the game with everyone else losing. Then you make jester neutral special.

[humble dome]

No

Just keep normal jester

as NS

[frozen lava]

Nooo

[heavy dawn]

But one night is the best social deduction game and we need to make TOS more like it.

Because I said so.

[unique sigil]

I don't think a false hang should end a game, it happens too frequently

[frozen lava]

Jester isn't going to end games bc they won that would ask why other ne doesn't do that

[copper condor]

NC

[frozen lava]

And if ne start ending game aa / taa would be a nightmare

[copper condor]

Yes it would

[heavy dawn]

Good point. Time to buff doomsayer, and exe. 😉

[frozen lava]

There going to be a extra body

[copper condor]

Domm needs to Doom 1 person and then game ends

[frozen lava]

Start running

[rare sandal]

Ew conversion mechanics

[frozen lava]

[rare sandal]

hell no

[humble dome]

Conversion is fun when the game is geared towards conversion

[copper condor]

we love convertion W CS and Vamp

[frozen lava]

Old vamps*

Love it

[rare sandal]

Which is like one role lol

[copper condor]

#1345819060994183228 gamemode about convertions

[frozen lava]

No

[rare sandal]

People blatantly gamethrew with old vamp it was so toxic

[frozen lava]

👎

[humble dome]

Vamp is isolated and its fine as is

[rare sandal]

people would dc after getting bit

[frozen lava]

Yep so this is that but every night

[humble dome]

Vamp is isolated and it is fine as is

[frozen lava]

And not limit on it

[rare sandal]

send it to TAA fr

[frozen lava]

[frozen lava]

Add all good pigs ideas with it

[rare sandal]

wow

that is certainly a suggestion

how many posts has gp made

[copper condor]

welp now TAA has Tank

[frozen lava]

Ik that one

[rare sandal]

and TAA has no boaring roles

[frozen lava]

U really didn't make it clear that it wasn't a real tank

Plus invisible but dies when visted

😭

[copper condor]

peak

[frozen lava]

💀

[copper condor]

that was before my 'balence' days

[rare sandal]

also how does this suggestion help jester at all

people are just going to repeatedly hang jester claims

[frozen lava]

Neutral Killing war was peak

[rare sandal]

then half the lobby wins off of rng

this is just

god awful

i'm sorry

[unique sigil]

The convo has established this and there's been a change in direction

[copper condor]

not half just 1, everyone else is Jest

[frozen lava]

Plus if everyone get turned into jest the draws are more likely to happen

[copper condor]

Tank also was assigned to a new person everytime they died

[frozen lava]

I need to re thumbs down one sec

[rare sandal]

oh wait

there could be an outbreak of jesters

lmao

EVERY NIGHT SOMEONE BECOMES JESTERS

[frozen lava]

Yep

😭

[copper condor]

oe 2 if 2 jests were hung

[gusty light]

botc farmer type shit 😭

[rare sandal]

what does farmer do

[copper condor]

there will be an outbreak of Jester

[frozen lava]

Farms*

[gusty light]

if it dies at night, an alive goodie turns into a farmer

i cant remember if its to demon only

yeah its just dying at night

[frozen lava]

Guys lets make farmer a town pm

[unique sigil]

Its been established the proposed method wouldn't be welcomed or functional

[frozen lava]

Yep

[unique sigil]

Anti-jest talk can be directed to Lagspikes post, But i do still propose an idea where Jester is like exe and needs 1 person to inno them and 1 person to guilty them in one trial

[copper condor]

does it still have to be guiltied?

[frozen lava]

Wait so u lose if its all guiltys?

[unique sigil]

yes

[unique sigil]

i wouldn't say so

[frozen lava]

That won't work

[rare sandal]

this is nothing like the role i read

jester i mean

[gusty light]

the conversion on death

[frozen lava]

So u can't play too well as jester

[rare sandal]

farmer at least seems stable

[frozen lava]

[unique sigil]

Split votes exist

[rare sandal]

but jester is just a zombie apocalypse

lol

[gusty light]

the 3 neurons in my skull fired up when i remembered farmer existed

[unique sigil]

Conspiracize and gain allies while also making enemies

[frozen lava]

Yeah i dont believe u should be punished for play well

[rare sandal]

so like

wheres the other suggestion

[unique sigil]

This wouldn't follow the jester virus design

[somber breach]

I can confirm there are only 3 neurons in there

[frozen lava]

Ik

[copper condor]

well its definition of play good would change

[frozen lava]

Why did u think it would work tho

More jesters isn't fixing the issue

[gusty light]

🤨 📸

[unique sigil]

Make town terrifed but make jesters vulnerable was my line of thinking , but thats been exiled

[frozen lava]

How do u know🤨

[copper condor]

I would still want Jester to have to be guiltied but at least one Inno, but that will probly get metagamed

[rare sandal]

Jester is a role can't work

[quaint magnet]

@rare sandal has leveled up! (32 ➜ 33)

[unique sigil]

there's another discussion for this in suggestions

[somber breach]

Thank you for confirming my point

[humble violet]

https://tenor.com/view/w-gif-15656275064413132464

[ornate dock]

LMAO

[copper condor]

but wacky is good...

[crisp peak]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

Get wackyd

[modest quest]

What was the og suggestion? He deleted it before I could see it

[rare sandal]

Hanging a jester made it so every night after a random person became a jester

essentially creating an outbreak you couldn’t stop

[modest quest]

That sounds so silly

[rare sandal]

yeah plus it could stack

hanging two jesters means this effect doubled

[modest quest]

In a trib

What happens if marsh tries two jest and only two people are left

Are inno voters safe from jestification?

[rare sandal]

I have no clue its their suggestion

It might be guilty voters it might be everyone

The idea was really funny but sounds god awful to play against

[unique sigil]

The prime reason why it was deleted. There’s been a change in view and perspective and I didn’t want people repeatedly commenting on the outdated post

[humble dome]

js lock the post