#Redeemer: The Introduction of Town Special

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torn rapids
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Redeemer - Town Special

Attack: None
Defense: None

Abilities

Revive ( 3️⃣ | 🌙 )

You may revive any Town member to life.

Attributes

Reviving a Town Member (who is still connected) will play a cutscene after all deaths are announced.
They will be silenced (and dayblocked) after it has been announced that they have came back to life, but will be granted Powerful Defense the following Night to avoid Targeting.
You cannot revive the same target again for the rest of the Game.
You win with Town.

rocky jetty
torn rapids
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TSpec for a reason.

rocky jetty
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still absolutely dogshit

rocky jetty
polar skiff
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THREE CHARGES!?

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I'll be 100%, a 1 charge "Redeemer" sounds kinda funny, but three charges is fucking insane

torn rapids
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I'm not equalizing it to the amount of Alternates Enchanter has.

rocky jetty
polar skiff
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Aka

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1

torn rapids
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What's the point if it has no other abilities?

rocky jetty
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the fucking fact it brings people back to life

polar skiff
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It's ability is to fully confirm itself and another Town role

rocky jetty
polar skiff
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It's Ret before it took Necro's ability

torn rapids
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It's still RBable.

polar skiff
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It's still THREE FUCKING REVIVES

rocky jetty
torn rapids
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Oh yeah

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Body is Missing is still in play for this.

polar skiff
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Effectively turns a 9v6 into a 12v6 lmao

neat kite
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I wanna reintroduce town special 😮

polar skiff
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I do too

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But THREE REVIVES

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is crazy

torn rapids
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Retri has prio over Redeem

neat kite
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okay your done go into the bin

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I think redeeming is abit too much?

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Theres a reason why I made ravenkeeper semi-revival

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reviving is way too op for this game

polar skiff
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1 Revive is already crazy strong and would flip the game over it's head

neat kite
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even if its special

polar skiff
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THREE is insane

neat kite
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were getting medium and wolf summoner from wolvesville real

rocky jetty
neat kite
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now we need a coven redeemer 🔥

rocky jetty
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oh fun fact you can bypass role limitations with this

polar skiff
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You can revive three different Tpows

rocky jetty
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amnesiac jailor and revived jailor

polar skiff
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LMAO

neat kite
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can I make a coven version of this

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hear me out

polar skiff
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Did it happen in TOS1?

rocky jetty
neat kite
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please hear me out

rocky jetty
polar skiff
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I don't recall ever playing a 2 Mayor game due to Amne shenanigans before the Ret change

rocky jetty
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reviving people is a bad mechanic that has no chance of redeeming

rocky jetty
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lmao

polar skiff
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As an NB yeah

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Can choose anyone

prisma fog
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OMG NO DONT ADD OLD RET AS A ROLE

polar skiff
prisma fog
polar skiff
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Ret was already fucking busted pre-overhaul (it was 1 revive)

prisma fog
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ik i was around when old ret was a thing

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It was broken

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as it cof that person as town and cof u as town

polar skiff
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Yeah

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I do sort of think if it had 1 Revive, it'd maybe work as a Tspec

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But 3 revives is fucking nutty

prisma fog
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it would be tpower and thats only with one revive

rocky jetty
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and yet another unfakeable town role

polar skiff
rocky jetty
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neutral specials atleast have dedicated lists (minus pirate)

prisma fog
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special is just tpower but stonger

rocky jetty
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“special” is just an excuse for bad balancing

prisma fog
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yep

polar skiff
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I can see a dedicated list with a 1-time revive (a more evil sided rolelist but there's a reviver for town)

prisma fog
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wait till people start with specail apoc (im giving ideas fear)

neat kite
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okay done I cooked yw

polar skiff
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It's kinda lame though

neat kite
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As for actual Town/Coven Specials I feel they should be something like this and actually fun and not a reliance on balance like trans/med/ga.? and some other role ideas

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but this is too much

polar skiff
neat kite
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imagine reviving 3 tpows

polar skiff
prisma fog
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games balance be like if everyone is broken then no one is

polar skiff
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I'll be honest I was so ready to go "old ret is funny, thumbs up" until I saw the THREE REVIVES

prisma fog
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i saw can revive and went HELL NO

uneven token
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3 abilities brother?

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Professor only gets 1.

polar skiff
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Old Ret only had one as well

uneven token
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yea

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I just said Professor because I didn't want to say "old ret".

polar skiff
uneven token
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I know there are a lot of BOTC heads here

polar skiff
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No clue what Professer is

uneven token
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(I never played)

prisma fog
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if this was tpower it would still be broken

uneven token
polar skiff
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lol

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Moiler if it was 1 charge would you still downvote it?

prisma fog
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it would only effect tps tis and ts others are too stong and thats even with one ability

polar skiff
uneven token
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I didn't vote at all

prisma fog
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he approves real

uneven token
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no

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It's way too complicated.

prisma fog
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who ever thumbs this up is doesnt care about balace cof

polar skiff
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Nerf:

  • Revived player is Silenced and Insomniac until the next day

Buff:

  • Revived player gets Powerful Defense
  • THREE REVIVES
sonic badger
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Seems like a very fair role to me

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Source: trust me

polar skiff
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It's very easy to counterplay, just kill people lol

prisma fog
polar skiff
prisma fog
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so basically there immune but cant use there abilities and can still vote

winter karma
rocky jetty
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iirc

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its technically only fakable by shabaloth or boffin

rocky jetty
prisma fog
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ok a way this would work and not break the game is reived players dont have a role anymore but are still town

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and it would have to be one

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charge

winter karma
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Old retri was op but funny for custom role list

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I wouldn't mind this for customs but keeping role and 3 charges is crazy

polar skiff
prisma fog
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one vote can change games

winter karma
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A revive will never not be strong

prisma fog
prisma fog
winter karma
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If I ever would make a revive role I would make it sacrifice their life for someone else to be back but that's boring

prisma fog
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thats bg

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its bg but no skill

pale blaze
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I’m tired of people using the “special” sub alignment (which doesn’t actually exist) to ignore balance

polar skiff
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Most specials are just souped up vanilla roles, but a reviver would definitely be considered "special" (even if it turns whoever they revive into a villager)

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And if it's 1 charge

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3 charge virtually no consequence revives is busted though

sand lake
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the first role that should go in special
Is Transporter

viral compass
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This doesn’t say it’s unique…

polar skiff
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Specials are unique by default

viral compass
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Also 3 revives is wayyy too many

viral compass
pastel marsh
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THREE SHOT OLD RETRI???

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THREEEEEE SHOT OLD RETRI????????????

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ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?

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ARE YOU GENUINELY INSANE?

prisma fog
cosmic swallow
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1 revive made old retri easily one of the strongest roles in the game

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3 revives is like 💀

pastel marsh
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I don't think I've ever been more flabbergasted by a suggestion in my LIFE

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Atp just bring back alpha admirer 💀

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Would look balanced next to whatever the fuck this is meant to be

tawdry lava
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anyways Town Special is a bad idea

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since it's literally just a fancier way of saying "𝓕𝓾𝓬𝓴 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓮𝓿𝓲𝓵𝓼"

cosmic swallow
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Town Special role: "Mr Awesome Guy" Ability: Check 3 people at night. You will know their exact role.

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Its ok because its town special btw

pastel marsh
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This post is genuinely offensive bro 😭

cosmic swallow
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If you get shrouded you just kill the shroud

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We dont want counterplay

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Actually you just convert the shroud to town.

pastel marsh
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converts the shroud to town so they can become the ULTIMATE tk with three unpunished kpn

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Wait this is the same guy who made the fucking super coven suggestion

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Crying rn

rocky jetty
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🔥

prisma fog
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ww hunter? anyone

rocky jetty
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Lycanthrope

prisma fog
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coven hunter Antics

pastel marsh
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The world is not ready for this guy to release "The Introduction of Apocalypse Special"

cosmic swallow
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we have a role that can find coven night 1 every game already its called monarch

tawdry lava
pastel marsh
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What could go wrong

tawdry lava
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new update

We've heard your feedback, and we've deciding that we're giving Coroner a gun!

cosmic swallow
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honestly i would love for someone to make a tos version where they actually just add suggestions from the community (but only the unbalanced ones)

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we can have power creep: the game

tawdry lava
cosmic swallow
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idk what that is

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but if its what i said it sounds funny

tawdry lava
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The Enchanter's Salem

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@blissful folio send invite

pastel marsh
pale blaze
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Coroner is just turned into town aligned inquis

pastel marsh
slender widget
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this doesnt work in tos

keen mortar
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3 revives is vile

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But if someone legitimately doesn’t believe that playing socially well and scumreading is worth more then the random power you get

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They’re too far gone

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Focus less on your power and more on what you can fucking do socially

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Otherwise you’ll never enjoy this game to its fullest

prisma fog
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Me when being the quiet one doesn't gets me trusted
(i said one word)

keen mortar
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This whole post and the reaction after reeks of skill issue

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If you can’t be skilled enough to have an impact without an ability

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That just proves you’ve succumbed to casual button mashing brainrot

prisma fog
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Ngl star explorer ideas are never good hope he thinks it though at some point

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But like bringing back someone is op its always going to be op so make a BIG down side that's no u dieing instead

cosmic swallow
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tbh theres probably nothing that makes reviving someone actually balanced

neat kite
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cant it just be rebalanced

prisma fog
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U see a post 😁
Its from starexplorer CurtisPleading

neat kite
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like you off yourself in return of that townie and if they have charges they only gain one

rocky jetty
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still exists to be confirmed

neat kite
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confirmed from the dead

rocky jetty
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and dying for using your ability isnt fun (note BG)

neat kite
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but we all love bg

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my homies love bg

cosmic swallow
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a role that dies to revive someone is literally just BG but better in every way

neat kite
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(im my only homie)

cosmic swallow
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apart from some really specific things

desert cove
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okay time to talk about the elephant in the room

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girl what is this

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3 revives?

slender widget
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old retri moment

desert cove
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stop cooking this instant

pastel marsh
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if only there was a role that could give this a fourth revive

slender widget
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damn you really bullying him

desert cove
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tt Redeemer when Energizer is in game

pastel marsh
pale perch
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NO

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HALT

vestal hinge
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This should be put out of its misery asap

keen mortar
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Can we get this to 50 dislikes

neat kite
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50 dislikes and we can send this role into tos1 with nbs and medium

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🔥

rocky jetty
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it did exist

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and it got taken out for being bad

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well partially existed

neat kite
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whem though I'm curious

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was it like beta

rocky jetty
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ye olden retributionist

keen mortar
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No

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It was actually in the game for a long fucking time

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All the way up until and after the COVEN EXPANSION

neat kite
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yikes

rocky jetty
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version 3.2.4

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no?

keen mortar
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I forgot

neat kite
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roles with revival roles are so boring like wolvesville cause the meta was always "medium revive seer"

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it got so stale

keen mortar
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Yeah

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Revive roles don’t work

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Pretty much ever

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It’s a horrid designspace

neat kite
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only game they kinda work for is flicker

keen mortar
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Also this post is lore balancing

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With Ret n shit

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Absolutely fucking wild

abstract spire
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Apparently this is what I find when I scroll down in the suggestions tab

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Yeah revivals will almost never be a good thing for tos in any way no matter how you slice it. There's a reason it was removed

torn rapids
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Revivals were never a thing in the first place?

signal pulsar
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You know what goes in Town Special?
Jailor and Marshal

signal pulsar
prisma fog