#Amne rework

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cunning shuttle
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Instead of becoming the first dead town member every night you can choose to become any available dead town member, or not if you don't want to yet. Like tos1 but it's still town.

Or just pure tos1 like it's neutral until remembering that was fun.

Why? Because it's lame getting amne and becoming a boring role. Today I got a game as amne trapper, I had 0 influence on the game in terms of abilities until night 4. There would be at least some strategy involved, do I just become this role tonight or do I wait until next night for potentially a better role to die and become.

gentle maple
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the classic conundrum of old tos1 ret, do i revive the dead sherif or wait till jailor dies

simple coyote
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the problem I see with this is amne just becoming waiting till tpow dies simulator

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because most lists have guarenteed atleast 1 tpow

maiden mulch
cunning shuttle
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There are still good non tpow town roles

simple coyote
smoky bane
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or remove amne

soft compass
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Amne reworks are impossible to conceive without their new flavor being something really dumb

simple coyote
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or you could force amne to remember by day 3

smoky bane
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or you could remove amne

soft compass
simple coyote
smoky bane
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amne as a town role is obsolete because retribuitonist exists

soft compass
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nerf Ret to having two charges real

smoky bane
simple coyote
smoky bane
soft compass
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if two+ rets/necros choose the same corpse, that corpse gets ripped into pieces and is unusable for the rest of the game

cunning shuttle
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How about my original idea except every following night there's an additional 15% chance they die from dementia

maiden mulch
cunning shuttle
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Could wait for tpow to die but risk dying from dementia

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💯

smoky bane
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when the numbers are randomly generated

maiden mulch
obsidian laurel
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If we could trade the ability to remember TPows, for the ability to choose which dead role to remember, that would be more practical.

Something I don't think many people realise is Town Powers are supposed to be limited, yet Amnesiacs can skirt around that limitation; defeating its whole purpose.

maiden mulch
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or that literally retri exists so amnesiac would have no defined purpose

indigo timber
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quick thing i just had in my head so uhhh

maiden mulch
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then what

indigo timber
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Amnesiac

Attack: None
Defense: None

  • Remember: Remember an available dead town role, if no target is selected, select a random dead town role to remember at random if available.
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idk why i didnt just explain that instead of making a scuffed ass role explanation message

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but yeah it'll only force remember if town role is dead

maiden mulch
indigo timber
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yea but more control over which role you get

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which i'd prefer over the current random town remember tpow priority thing

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if multiple people attempt to remember tpow then only one succeeds and the rest fail and remember a random role

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actually hollup imma just make a separate post for this

smoky bane
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or we coooooould

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remove amnesiac

soft compass
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Remove everything BUT amnesiac

indigo timber
fathom urchin
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I still wonder why BMG didn't make Amne NE or smth like that

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Like actually why is it town lmao?

indigo timber
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because they're STUPID!!! 🔥🔥🔥

fathom urchin
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I wouldn't say that, but with some of the design decisions they might be lmao.

soft compass
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Even though there were some questionable design, a lot of decisions made seem to revolve around reducing in-game variability, improving balance, and adding shiny things

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Amne turning Town is a "reduce variability" type of change

smoky bane
fathom urchin
maiden mulch
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NE amne wouldnt work

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what would it’s goal be

fathom urchin
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I just said NE cuz neutral

maiden mulch
fathom urchin
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Since NB doesn't exist

maiden mulch
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👎

soft compass
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Amne was NOT healthy lmao

It was "healthier" than a lot of the roles in the game, but it was still a role that can add an extra faction member into the game

maiden mulch
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at most it’d be neutral special

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(I wouldn’t mind this very much if it kicked amnesiac out of the town)

obsidian laurel
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Why not NS Amnesiac? Works exactly like ToS1 Amnesiac, except no matter what they remember, they'll always be part of the 'Amnesiac' faction.

Their wincon is to see other factions die, like Coven. Basically a middle ground between Cursed Souls and Vampires, except you rely on dead players.

indigo timber
obsidian laurel
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If it's the best way to change Amnesiac, why not?

fiery dragon
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the best way to change amnesiac is to get rid of amnesiac

obsidian laurel
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I just don't like how Amnesiac as-is isn't even a role, but a glorified game mechanic designed to be anti-swing.

indigo timber
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NS amne would work the best for btos2

obsidian laurel
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Which ironically it's swingy in itself in the case for TPows

indigo timber
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but like also vanilla tos2

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what do we really

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theres not a TAA with NS roles in vanilla

obsidian laurel
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Which they should be add (only after they fix Cursed Soul and Vampire though)

smoky bane
valid apex
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*takes a shot*

obsidian laurel
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Town Amnesiac just doesn't make sense at this point

smoky bane
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using italics and also asterisks to demark an action is

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a choice

valid apex
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indeed.

smoky bane
obsidian laurel
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We all know that ain't happening

valid apex
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unfortunately Yeeting a role into the sun is not an option

smoky bane
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:(

obsidian laurel
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At worst it needs to be yeeted out of the town faction

valid apex
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Nor is moving its subalignment, really
(Yes I know about Pirate but it's not happening in vanilla)