Pirate rework as NE | BetterTOS2 | Page 1

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 1:25 PM

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Pirate
Neutral Evil
Unique
Attack : none
Defense : none

Abilities:
Scurvy Epidemy(start of the game):
2 random players from oposing fractions will start with Scurvy

Remeber about vitamine C( 🌕 | ♾️ ):
You give an Orange to the player making them immune to Scurvy and cureing it if they have it.

Atributes:

-Immune to Scurvy .

-You can not be roleblocked and you willl give Orange to player that tries to stop you but you are not immune aginst hiting Unknown Obsticle.

-StarPawn stops you

-You are enemies with town

-Sheriff see you as suspicious

-Spy can not detect you

-Deputy can shoot you

-If pirate will die all players with Scurvy will be cured.

wincon:
Make so in the whole town there is no Scurvy

Keywords explain:
Scurvy:
-after 2 days (excluding day one) player with Scurvy will be:

- able to send only 10 characters per message
-  able to send only 2 messages during  a day

-if player with Scurvy will get visited by someone, their visitor will get Scurvy, max one person (so 1 is infected 2 and 3 visits them only for example 2 is infected, made so to avoid whole town getting Scurvy too fast).

-horsmens of apocalypse can't have Scurvy

Orange:

cures Scurvy and gives immunity to it

-If player suffers from Scurvy sideeffect they also are cured (wanted to secify that even if I think it's logical)

-player will get information either if they got cured by Orange or if Orange prevented them from getting infected

-Orange have prioryty over Scurvy spread (for example 1 have Scurvy, they got Orange n2 and 2 visited them n2,2 does not get infected bcs 1 does not have Scurvy anymore)

tbh this Idea is more funny then balanced even for me but I think it may work (better this then having 2 inqusitors or rock paper scissors)

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if you have issues with understanding it just say and maybe I will try to edit it (sadly character limit may make it harder)

real stump Dec 14, 2024, 1:28 PM

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high lark **Pirate** Neutral Evil Unique <:Attack:1274076439565697045>: none <:Defense:127...

versed oak Dec 14, 2024, 1:30 PM

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If im understanding it correctly: as you said this is a funny idea
But the fact that everyone else gets punished because YOU didnt complete your OWN wincon is bad

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 1:30 PM

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they always can hang u

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revert everything

versed oak Dec 14, 2024, 1:30 PM

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A pirate can just troll and not do anything and everyone gets rbed

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Yeah but they need to find him first

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This becomes like a mini death

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 1:31 PM

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true :/

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no roleblock ;3

versed oak Dec 14, 2024, 1:33 PM

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Would be better yeah

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But i still dont umderstand one thing (i dont think you mentioned it) is it only 2 players whole game with scurvy or does it spread

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Like pb or smth

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Nvm i just saw it

spare carbon Dec 14, 2024, 1:44 PM

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Evil baker

mellow elm Dec 14, 2024, 2:10 PM

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this is the funniest fucking theming i have ever seen. what do you mean you give people oranges

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 2:59 PM

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scurvy is lack of vitamine C

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😄

mellow elm Dec 14, 2024, 3:14 PM

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i am aware

marble radish Dec 14, 2024, 4:04 PM

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Orange

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 4:06 PM

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this is serious concept I was not joking

marble radish Dec 14, 2024, 4:09 PM

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⭐ ♟️

spare carbon Dec 14, 2024, 4:14 PM

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high lark this is serious concept I was not joking

liar

mellow elm Dec 14, 2024, 4:34 PM

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high lark Dec 14, 2024, 4:35 PM

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XD

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I love it

tender pike Dec 14, 2024, 4:38 PM

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Remeber about vitamine C

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I'll read up on this, I will say, the thematic choices aren't great lmao maybe Pirate giving out an orange isn't perfect for the game

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also starspawn shouldn't block pirate, it's only supposed to block town

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 4:40 PM

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this is kinda sad I acctually tried to make good and balanced role analizing what should scurvy do (I was analizing if it should kill) and all I got is sth that ppl think is a joke role

tender pike Dec 14, 2024, 4:41 PM

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sorry, I don't think this works out well, pirate has to work SUPER hard to stop scurvy, and it also still has the autoconfirming role problems

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I can see the mentality though

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 4:41 PM

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bro was kinda similar to pb at some stage of the creation

tender pike Dec 14, 2024, 4:41 PM

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it was, plague gets to like 10 people by day 4 though

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 4:41 PM

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but wanted to make sure curing scurvy is main goal

tender pike Dec 14, 2024, 4:42 PM

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as much as I like message supression sometimes, I don't think it's fair to have an NE be that opressive

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 4:42 PM

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no at some point it's goal was to all players have oranges and pirate game scurvy (orange did not stop speading scurvy simply stoped killing from it)

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*gave

tender pike Dec 14, 2024, 4:43 PM

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ok

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I don't like NE kills so that's a good thing at least

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 4:43 PM

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well now all NE kills (excluding exe but it's kinda NP like)

topaz zenith Dec 14, 2024, 4:57 PM

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high lark well now all NE kills (excluding exe but it's kinda NP like)

Its fine to have less killing NEs tbh

topaz zenith Dec 14, 2024, 4:58 PM

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high lark this is kinda sad I acctually tried to make good and balanced role analizing wha...

It happens, you just observe and get better at identifying good ideas over time

rapid lotus Dec 14, 2024, 5:11 PM

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⭐ Neutral

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most dangerous NP 😰

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🔥✍️

soft pivot Dec 14, 2024, 5:16 PM

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high lark **Pirate** Neutral Evil Unique <:Attack:1274076439565697045>: none <:Defense:127...

So bc a pirate exists u get punished for it. Game balance doesn't exist for most people

thick quiver Dec 14, 2024, 7:12 PM

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ok im really sorry

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do you mind if i rewrite this for you

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this formatting makes it really hard to make out anything

proud bough Dec 14, 2024, 7:14 PM

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I cannot explain how much I love that you used oranges for scurvy immunity

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Like this just makes me so happy inexplicably Pirate is giving people oranges I love this so much

proud bough Dec 14, 2024, 7:14 PM

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mellow elm

marble radish Dec 14, 2024, 7:55 PM

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Pirate

Neutral Evil

🏁 "Prevent the town from succumbing to Scurvy"
You leave the town in victory when no player alive has a stack of Scurvy on them.

Attack Attack None
Defence Defence None
No Detection Immunity

Attributes:

You cannot receive stacks of Scurvy.
You cannot be Roleblocked, instead you will give an Orange to any player trying to roleblock you.
You cannot be seen by Spy Bugs.
If you die before completing your goal, anyone with stacks of Scurvy will lose them.

Abilities:

Orange ( ♾️ | Night )

Give an Orange to your target.
Players who receive an Orange will lose any stack of Scurvy they had and will no longer receive stacks of Scurvy.

Cursed Sailor (Passive )

Two players opposing each other will start the game with a stack of Scurvy.
You do not know the Identity of the two players.

Keywords:

Scurvy:

Players inflicted with Scurvy will gain a stack of it every night, up to a maximum of 3.
Players who reach 3 stacks of Scurvy will only be able to send 2 messages of 10 characters each day.
Players who reach 4 stacks of Scurvy will be dealt an Unstoppable Astral Attack.
One player visiting a player inflicted with Scurvy will receive a stack of Scurvy if they dont have one already.
Horsemen of the Apocalypse cannot receive stacks of Scurvy

Orange:

The Pirate can give an Orange to a player, giving them immunity to Scurvy and cleansing any stack of it they currently have.
Players will learn if the Orange protected them from Scurvy or cleansed it.

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@high lark

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change the name of the abilities as you wish

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Worst thing is, this could kinda work as a NS with a reworked Scurvy punishment

high lark Dec 14, 2024, 8:18 PM

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death at the end of night after your speach is reduced

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