#Why is Crusader TP?

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austere cave
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It functions more like a Town Support role than a Town Protective role.

Everything about it is Town Support.

cursive pike
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agreed

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its less reliable than every other TP in the game, while being hard confirmable

austere cave
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yeah

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i didnt even think about that one

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Town Supports do that too

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-# mainly Tavern Keeper

cursive pike
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and as a matter of fact crus is a worst cleric in 99% of cases

austere cave
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me when i fortify someone (they died to Jinx)

cursive pike
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yeah I mean crus got all the downsides of BG / Trapper without any of the upsides

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it cannot prevent against indirect, it cannot prevent against astral

austere cave
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yea

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If Crusader was actually assigned as Town Support, then no compliants to be made.

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but no, Crusader is classified as a TP that does little protection

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Crusader, in its current state, is the worst TP in the mod.

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it should be TS

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if Curtis and Tuba wanna keep Crus as a TP

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perhaps make it use #1299048123003310090?

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then give current crus behavior to socialite

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peak

sour eagle
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If Crus shouldn't be TP, what would make it a TS?
-# The only argument I can think of for TP is "you probably play it like a TP" but people might play crus in different ways

austere cave
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Everything about it behaves like a Town Support role.

cobalt pilot
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I think the main reasoning behind crus as ts is that its sorta like tav (and admirer?) where its about disrupting abilities.

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and yeah its very similar to vanilla soc which is ts

austere cave
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Crusader is the least protective role in the mod

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cuz it isnt a proper TP

sour eagle
austere cave
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cuz how i see it, its stupidly obvious Crusader does not behave like a TP in the slightest

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i cant explain why when i shouldnt have to

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Crusader has little to no protection ability.

sour eagle
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It goes on important targets and can block attackers, kinda sounds like a TP to me

austere cave
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Blocking visits is not protection.

sour eagle
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If you're blocking an attack you're still protecting your target from death

austere cave
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so Tavern Keeper is TP?

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rb an attacker

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bam

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you blocked an attack

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you are now a TP

polar swift
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tav plays offensively

austere cave
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everything crus does is TS

polar swift
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while crus is defensive

vital harbor
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Tbh crus can be kinda “anti support” in some ways because it blocks all other town

cursive pike
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tav is a better TP than fucking crus

noble crescent
vital harbor
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Tbh by that same logic you could say Tav makes a good Ti

fierce burrow
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ykw fuck it, make crus a TI

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let it learn the roles of people it blocks

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and then no longer block attacks so it's no longer tp

polar swift
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💀

fierce burrow
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then give it ethereal defense and change it's win condition to kill all townies

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oh wait

sour eagle