Compliant Killers Rework

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The Changes

• All NK are back to having defense and detection immunity and being unaware of each-other
• If only NK remain as the last people stopping the game from ending, they instead all win under the compliance
• All NK will win if this happens, even if dead / no other NK of the same type is alive

Why?

Compliance sucks right now, just being a failed faction like apocalypse while exisiting in two states so its not like you can give them factional utility, except they have no real purpose for existing outside of 2 modes, which I find absolutely miserable to play.
This gives them back the more "Neutral" aspect but with the ability to win together if they work together to defeat the common enemy, while not making them a failure of a faction. For the two modes, comp JR and Compliant killers list can be removed from rotation while new ones get rotated in

TLDR: Shared "Kill Everyone but other Neutral Killers"

I just hate compliant killers rn

[foggy stone]

And it hates you

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thanks z

[torpid raven]

shrimple edition

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no tldr

im lazy

[rocky vessel]

Give Arso defence

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what

[rocky vessel]

Rest should not have any

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why

[torpid raven]

why

[median bolt]

this is still neutral killers

this just has the opportunity to win together

[torpid raven]

they just have an additional wincon yeah

[rocky vessel]

Wait

[torpid raven]

it's more of a +wincon than a +1 (not really a) faction

[rocky vessel]

Didnt get what the additional wincon

[torpid raven]

If only NK live NKs win together

[median bolt]

their wincon is a shared “kill everyone except other neutral killers”

[torpid raven]

yeah

[rocky vessel]

Oh

[median bolt]

ill add that

for clarity

[torpid raven]

it's either "kill everyone" or "kill everyone except all NK"

[rocky vessel]

So they arent in teams

[torpid raven]

you can do both

[torpid raven]

mhm

[median bolt]

no

they arent

[torpid raven]

screw old comp

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i nebver want to play that again

its terrible

[torpid raven]

LOL

same

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i was forced into 3 games of it

it was hell

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did someone say TEAMS

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NK twice then fucking rec trapper

[torpid raven]

I was comp arso in the only one i ever played
half the game DCd

LOL

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both my CompJR games I've been on the winning side

[torpid raven]

we had 2 arsos

and we lost

bc the other arso dced and ww got outed d2

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i complain about lots of shit but compliant killers is like the worst enemy

[torpid raven]

B)

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the rec sk killed the jailor for my team n1 in Compliance and then instantly got hung cause crus went on them and saw UO

[ancient spoke]

Nk's killing nks thou... compliance like ths seems impossible to win without getting lucky

WW
ARso
SK BL

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?

[ancient spoke]

fym ?

what i said is what i said

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yeah and i dont understand

[ancient spoke]

bro

if a fucking WW kills a shroud and then the the shroud attacks the WW

you just lost a member

and 0 town killed

also this means you gotta ban 3 of the 4 TK again

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this isnt intended to have its own gamemode

[ancient spoke]

???

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so

[ancient spoke]

YOUR REWORKING COMK, IT HAS 2 LISTS ALREADY

😭

[median bolt]

those can be shelved

its an ass modifier

and i would like to make it more bearable

[ancient spoke]

how the fuck is this bearable on the nk's part if their meant to be the major "force" behind a list

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this is designed for lists where NK struggle like taa for instance

[ancient spoke]

the whole point of compliant killers is to have lists

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well those lists can fuck off

[ancient spoke]

just make this it's own modifier

[torpid raven]

Comp is arse

smh

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compliance is a horrible modifier and i want something good to come of it

literally anything better

[torpid raven]

B)

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thou shalt not speak of teams in this domain

[ancient spoke]

this won't be added because your literally on purpose trying to kill off lists

and it's not that awful, it's just actual tools of tricking town other than shroud and no ulility other than ww's really... really... really shitty faking tracker stuff

tuba wants compliant killers to work

[torpid raven]

just do #1292651087190294589 B)

much easier

[median bolt]

spoiler alert; it won’t

i hate to be the bringer of bad news but its a fucking failed design

its a failure

you shoved 3 solo roles into a “faction” with eachother

and their only utility is killing

[ancient spoke]

eh, i don't think compliance v2 was that bad, complaint jackal returns thou...

holy shit that mode is ass

[median bolt]

and you cant fucking change the roles

because guess what?

they exist in two states

[torpid raven]

if the SK proposed rework and your Arso rework gets in it might actually get some utility to a extent tbh
my WW overhaul can be main KP (ffs pov Bers to apoc)
Shroud ppl r saying it's fine so eh

(note to an extent)

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they’re still hard designed as solo

my fucking arsonist has a clause saying it IS solo

[torpid raven]

.

I never said that they aren't designed to be solo

I just said they'll at least have some util

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my arsonist only has real utility if douses die / get TI checked

[torpid raven]

It's p much mass framing though
that's not nothing

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...

THE PROBLEM WITH COMK IS THAT THEY HAVE NO ANTI-VFR SO I NEED TO FIX DESERTER!!!!

🔥🔥🔥🔥

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no

vfr is fine

honestly

its overhated

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arso needs like

to not douse teammates

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#1293237759422496778

i addressed it there i think