#Ritualist (Rework)

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craggy linden
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Attack : None --> Basic
Defence : None
Roleblockable

Abilities
Collect
Blood Ritual

Collect (NIght ability) (Infinite)
You may try to collect blood from your target at night, if the target dies succesfully collect the blood otherwise nothing happens.

Blood Ritual (Night ability) (0-2 Charges)
You may try to guess someone's Role. If done succesfully deal Astral Basic attack, otherwise the ability fails and you lose a charge
You cannot guess Town Investigatives.
Gain a charge everytime you succesfully collect Blood.
Attributes :
With Necronomicon you also deal Basic attack.

Goal : Kill all who oppose Coven.

Note : So uh Slower Ritualist.
I want to clarify that

limpid valve
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Ritualist realistically needs only one or two charges total

It gains one charge automatically n1 (unless if rit or bookholder fails to visit)

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Also realistically, Rit likely won't have a role to guess by n2, so it can gain a charge then as well

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This might as well be "nerf Rit to deal Basic attack and have two charges. Plus it visits dead people."

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A better rit nerf that slows it down and keeps it's gimmick is the one Tuba suggested a while back

craggy linden
naive owl
limpid valve
limpid valve
tidal siren
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this doesn’t really fix rit

limpid valve
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Doesn't slow it down

naive owl
limpid valve
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Also, since it's basic attack, it can be protected by a Cleric/Oracle so it still allows for full role claims

tidal siren
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it can visit the necronomicon kill

limpid valve
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Yeah

tidal siren
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so it doesn’t slow it down

limpid valve
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Which is why I said it doesn't slow it down

tidal siren
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jt cant rit n1

naive owl
tidal siren
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i cant read

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trust

limpid valve
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I said "this doesn't slow rit down" and you replied "wrong, this doesn't slow rit down"

tidal siren
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💀

limpid valve
tidal siren
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i cant read

limpid valve
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The bigger nerf is the decrease to Basic attack, which makes it VERY easy to just full claim

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Especially as Monarch with an alive knight

tidal siren
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yeah but having defense should mean coven have a harder time disposing of you

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i.e self protecting, monarchs defence and innate defence

craggy linden
tidal siren
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powerful attack dumb

limpid valve
tidal siren
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it can still get neuts

limpid valve
naive owl
tidal siren
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but goes through protection

limpid valve
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And Crus I think (I haven't played enough modded)

tidal siren
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its a nerf to crus

limpid valve
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OH

tidal siren
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crus cant kick astral visits out

naive owl
limpid valve
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Oh I misunderstood it whoops

tidal siren
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ritting just needs to be basic attack

limpid valve
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Usually Coven suggestions have Attack set as None

tidal siren
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and 2 charges at most

limpid valve
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And just specify Necronomicon at the bottom

tidal siren
past hull
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Does collecting blood work like SC

limpid valve
tidal siren
past hull
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also how much blood do you need for ritual

tidal siren
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the monarch with knights alive should be fucked on the basis that rng spawned a rit

limpid valve
craggy linden
past hull
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Okay but how much though like 2? or 3? I assume around there to space out the amount of time you blood ritual

tidal siren
gritty bay
limpid valve
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You're not going to see the Serial Killer go "oh btw I'm SK" now that rit has its attack reduced to basic

naive owl
tidal siren
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instead of “we’ll rit you to obliterate you instead”

naive owl
craggy linden
tidal siren
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thats gamethrowing

limpid valve
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So the argument for rit getting reduced to basic has no real footing

past hull
tidal siren
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pm

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witch

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role reveals

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wildlings

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it means shit

craggy linden
naive owl
past hull
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Oh- I don't like that I thought it was to slow it down

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Well I mean it does to be fair

craggy linden
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So I changed it to Basic, but does not get revealed when Failed

past hull
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But cant you just go on necro holder target and js get free rituals

limpid valve
# tidal siren it means shit

In balanced rolelists, Witch doesn't spawn with Rit

Additionally, the nerf could be that roles revealed by PMer aren't Ritable.

naive owl
gritty bay
naive owl
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seems good

gritty bay
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But that’s not the most important part

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The important part is that this is a nothing change

limpid valve
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Doesn't buff Clerics and Oracles with that

gritty bay
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It reduces Blood Ritual to basic but that’s it

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I prefer Sacrifice Rit

limpid valve
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LMAO YOU READ IT WRONG AS WELL

past hull
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I would like it if it had a requirement for blood to slow it down

naive owl
limpid valve
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Oh

naive owl
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youre extra illiterate

tidal siren
past hull
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Basic meaning this cant kill neutrals can it

gritty bay
naive owl
gritty bay
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And that charges are regained

limpid valve
gritty bay
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But recharge doesn’t matter in the long run

gritty bay
past hull
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I like this a little more now I guess I give 👍

craggy linden
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Technically this Buffs 2 TI's correct me if i am wrong
Buffs Monarch

limpid valve
naive owl
limpid valve
naive owl
limpid valve
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Abd Orwcle

craggy linden
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Crus can Block 2 Coven ;-;

limpid valve
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Uhh

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Sure

naive owl
craggy linden
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I mean this does nothing

naive owl
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arguably the most important change

craggy linden
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....
I made a post a while ago

limpid valve
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Nerfing Rit to Basic allows Cleric to bypass Blood Ritual.

Nerfing it to Powerful allows it to fuck over Neutrals but still makes Cleric able to Barrier it.

craggy linden
craggy linden
gritty bay
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Cpow and CK often spawn together

naive owl
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its just CK CC CC

gritty bay
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Makes sense

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The Cpow category is mega fucked rn

craggy linden
gritty bay
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No identity whatsoever

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I don’t particularly like this Rit

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Because it still adds too much extra KP to the coven

craggy linden
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mfw coven killing Kills.

gritty bay
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Coven killing roles can help the Necronomicon kill instead of killing directly as their only benefactor?

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That’s untapped design space

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Anyway this is better than current Rit

craggy linden
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;-0

gritty bay
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But still not amazing

limpid valve
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And I don't respect Egotist and CVIP

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All Any, TAA, and April I don't count

gritty bay
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Fair

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Egotist

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More like

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Conj hits their ally simulator

craggy linden
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Egoist Townie : Leaves Town Day 1

naive owl
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lets see it

craggy linden
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🤓 Egotist counts as NP

limpid valve
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That mostly happened in an April list somewhere

naive owl
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ego and tt no longer learn VIP

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would be fun

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I was part of the testing !!!!

limpid valve
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IIRC they used to

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In April

naive owl
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but i was part of the testing after they removed that!!!!

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(Joy)

limpid valve
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W

craggy linden
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IIRC?
what does that mean ;-;

limpid valve
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If I recallededed correctly

naive owl
limpid valve
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🤓

naive owl
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I have an english exam tommorow so im allowed to be nerdy

gritty bay
naive owl
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link?

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i want to scrutinize it

gritty bay
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It’s scrapped

limpid valve
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😢

naive owl
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aww

gritty bay
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Performed poorly in testing

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But it’s gimmick got ported over to CTS Ret

limpid valve
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JOAT that can use all TP/TI abilities, but only two times total

And turns into a Tpow when outnumbered

naive owl
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so basically deus ex marshal

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gotcha

gritty bay
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It works well on paper

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Not so much in practice

limpid valve
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It was miserable to play