#Spy Rework 3.3 - Evil Visit/Ability Detector (Temporary)

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ivory kiln
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Spy (Town Investigative)

Attack: None
Defense: None

Abilities:

  • Bug a player's house at night, detecting the presence of evil roles in their vicinity.

Attributes:

  • Enchanted players who visit Bugged targets will appear as an Enchanter would.
  • Illusioned players will not appear to visit any Bugged targets or appear to perform any evil abilities.

Bug (Night | ♾️)

  • Visit a player to Bug their house. Bugs remain on a target indefinitely.
  • Bugs will reveal which evil roles visit their target each night.

Monitor (Passive | ♾️)

  • Each night, you will passively Monitor each evil role which triggers a Bug.
  • Monitored roles stay monitored until you die.
  • Each night, for each Bugged player, you will learn all harmful abilities used by Monitored roles on them at some point.
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Expanded upon #1273373230689947709

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Now, Monitor is no longer an independent selection

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It passively gets stacked on top of evil roles you already see

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This design helps make the role more intuitive while also making it more skill-dependent and high-reward if you bug the right people

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You are now Monitoring the Dreamweaver.
You are now Monitoring the Baker. 

Your bug on [1] Blossom crackles with static.
- You detect that your target was visited by the Dreamweaver.
- You detect that your target has since been Dreamweaved.

Your Bug on [2] Doggie crackles with static.
- You detect that your target was visited by the Baker.
- You detect that your target has since been Revealed by the Baker.

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Heres an example of what feedback for it might look like

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This feedback was gotten N2 from a playtesting game on another server

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Basically

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Every time an evil role triggers your bug

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You'll add them to a Monitor list

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And roles on the Monitor list will have their abilities revealed to you if you bug players they've targeted at any point in the game

merry steeple
ivory kiln
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Here

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Full Feedback List

You detect that your target was at some point Hexed.
You detect that your target was at some point Controlled.
You detect that your target was at some point Jinxed.
You detect that your target has had a Blood Ritual performed against them at some point.
You detect that your target was at some point Enchanted/Alterated.
You detect that your target was at some point Roleblocked by a Poisoner.
You detect that your target was at some point Dreamweaved.
You detect that your target was at some point Stone Gazed.
You detect that your target was at some point Revealed.
You detect that your target was at some point Reanimated.
You detect that your target was at some point Sensed.
You detect that your target was at some point Silenced.

You detect that your target was at some point stabbed by a Serial Killer.
You detect that your target has since Disguised themselves as another.
You detect that your target had their Scent Tracked at some point.
You detect that your target has was at some point the victim of a Werewolf Rampage.
You detect that your target was at some point Doused.
You detect that your target was at some point Attacked by a Shroud.
You detect that your target was at some point Shrouded.

You detect that your target was at some point Attacked by a Berserker.
You detect that your target was at some point Plagued.
You detect that your target was at some point given a Wheat Loaf/Rye Boule/Soul Cake.
You detect that your target has since been Reaped.
You detect that your target has since been Cursed.

You detect that your target was at some point Isolated.
You detect that your target was at some point Smokebombed.
You detect that your target was at some point Audited.
You detect that your target was at some point Subponeaed.

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It receives the same feedback as my old Spy rework

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@small hatch pin if you get the chance please tysm

merry steeple
ivory kiln
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Its harmful for the target to have their role revealed to evil

merry steeple
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Is being healed harmful?

ivory kiln
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That shouldnt be there

merry steeple
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So why is it?

small hatch
merry steeple
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(hi nuggy)

small hatch
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I’ll have a proper look over this tomorrow

ivory kiln
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I think I've finally gotten the hang of making a Spy rework that's both interesting, intuitive, and intricate while not being overly complex

small hatch
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It’s very late for me I’m too tired to understand it sorryy

merry steeple
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goodnight, nugster

small hatch
ivory kiln
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Since more complex designs lend to better results, but complexity of such degree in a casual game isnt great

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So yeah

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This is the best I could do

ivory kiln
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Im tired

merry steeple
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Hm...

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Is Soul Cake harmful?

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That's what I was talking about before and it didnt change

ivory kiln
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you can POE it based on the fact that you didnt see either other bread type

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but still saw a Baker

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So...

merry steeple
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Maybe revealing and tracking shouldn't be harmful then.

ivory kiln
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Actions performed by evils on opposers

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"Harmful" was a blanket description used for intuitiveness more than anything

merry steeple
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That ignores the problem

ivory kiln
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I reluctantly removed Barriers as well as a suggestion

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Hence why I'm trying to generalize it

merry steeple
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Yeah, but seeing "Healed by a Baker" is another instant out that I would rather not have.

Spy isn't really supposed to be a swingy "gotcha" role that affects very specific roles. This is why you took Illusion out of it, right?

ivory kiln
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Yes.

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I know what I wanted the intent of Spy to be

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And I'm trying my best to execute off that

merry steeple
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I think certain roles should be accommodated as well since Illusion already creates an exception.

ivory kiln
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Do I just add a "Barriers and Illusoins cant be seen" attribute

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Since I considered that

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But it sounded jank