#Jinx Rework (Coven Killing Series)

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lofty ginkgo
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Jinx (Coven Killing)

Attack: Basic
Defense: None

Abilities:

  • Imprecate a player's perimeter at night, detecting the presence of other roles.
  • Accurse a role's fortune, allowing you to Intercept them if they visit your target.
  • Cause a Calamity to the first player you Intercept, dealing a Basic Attack.

Attributes:

  • With the Necronomicon, players you visit are dealt a Basic Attack.

Imprecate (♾️)

  • Visit a player to learn which other roles visited them that night.
  • You may visit Coven members with this ability.
  • You may not Imprecate the same player consecutively.

Accurse (♾️)

  • Select a role to Accurse at night. You may perform this while performing Imprecate.
  • If an Accursed role ever visits the same target as you, you will Intercept their visit, causing it to fail. You may only do this to one role per night.
  • Intercept prioritizes based on the most recently Accursed role and will prioritize players seen by Imprecate over non-seen roles.

Calamity (Passive)

  • You will deal an Astral Basic Attack to the first player you Intercept.

Feedback:

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Reason for Change:

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naive root
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Intercept: Unknown Obstacle, or "A Jinx blocked you!"?

lofty ginkgo
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I will be posting role feedback soon

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But it's UO

sudden nexus
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so Imprecate is SS without UO i think

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does it have UO?

lofty ginkgo
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Yes.

lunar rain
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starspawn is UO

naive root
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I was just asking for a second since I just saw it pop up.

sudden nexus
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maybe doing Imprecate could reveal that theres a jinx so it still has the weird "Reveal" Mechanic

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idk though

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may be bad idea

lunar rain
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then jinx is still a liability

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because of it confirming conjurer/ritualist doesnt exist

naive root
lofty ginkgo
# lofty ginkgo # Jinx (Coven Killing) **Attack:** Basic **Defense:** None __**Abilities:**__ ...

Reason for Rework:

Jinx is franky in a horrible spot right now in terms of game balance. It's goal is to counter TP, yet it can't do that consistently at all, discouraging the practice to begin with. The killpower it comes with is swingy at best and a downright gamble at worst... and I doubt we even need to get into how stupid the reveal mechanic is.

This rework, along with my Ritualist one (https://discord.com/channels/1197645970998054992/1265032295186829333) aims to do two things to the Coven Killing category: standardize their killpower to exactly one Basic Attack (factional roles shouldn't be allowed any more kp to that), AND make them the de-facto TP counters (fitting for a category that focuses on kills made by Coven).

With this rework, Jinx gains an investigative ability that synergizes well with a disruption ability, allowing its niche as a TP blocker to become more solidified. It's kill has also been made more balanced; with the proc condition made more strict but the reveal mechanic gone, the singular kill that it does get is a lot more fair in comparison.

Oh, and as a bonus: Jinx can bluff Crus and Trapper now. Yay.

lofty ginkgo
sudden nexus
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yeah

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it was

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so is the mayor revealed protection thing

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mayor needs a change too

lunar rain
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this isnt about mayor

sudden nexus
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ik

naive root
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Let's stay focused I think?

lofty ginkgo
lofty ginkgo
lusty edge
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I think the current jinx in the game is still more balanced than this.

lofty ginkgo
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Do you know how awful the current state of Jinx is

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By the way, this gets blocked by Crusaders and Starspawns. It's not UO immune.

lunar rain
lofty ginkgo
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By that note, it also can't Intercept UO roles.

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This is being tested in the CT Server

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I'll come back with feedback soon

lusty edge
lofty ginkgo
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Jinx is the same in both games

lusty edge
sudden nexus
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????

proud laurel
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is Accurse a day or night ability?

lofty ginkgo
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Special, to be exact

proud laurel
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can you multitask it with Imprecate?

lofty ginkgo
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Yes

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That's kind of the whole point

proud laurel
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ahh okay

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it could probably be a day ability 😅

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but then it's really annoying to deal with on d1

lofty ginkgo
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Specified that in the wording.

sudden nexus
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so to clarify, this is the "weakest" in the UO chart

lofty ginkgo
sudden nexus
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okay

lofty ginkgo
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Because of Calamity

sudden nexus
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makes sense

lofty ginkgo
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Btw the server this is being tested in has Secret Killers enabled

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Permanently, as a default setting

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So Calamity serves a much grander purpose there than it does here

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But I digress

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Essentially

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This role serves as a TP disabler

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But before it can do that, it has to know which TP are in the game first

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It can do that via Imprecate, but then it has to wait a night before it can target that same player again

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Removing any braindead "stay on the Tpow claim forever" tactics

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The kill has also became more dynamic

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Because before you can catch someone with Calmity, you have to predict both their role and their visit

lofty ginkgo
gray aspen
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:3

small runeBOT
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@gray aspen has leveled up! (21 ➜ 22)

gray aspen
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fuck you

naive root
lofty ginkgo
lofty ginkgo
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Update: Removed With the Necronomicon, you lose the ability to Intercept other roles. clause.

lofty ginkgo
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This is the most upvotes a Jinx rework has ever gotten

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Which is kind of sad honestly