#Magician (NP) - Blossom

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marble matrix
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Attack: None
Defence: Powerful Ethereal
Immunities: None
Sub-alignment: Neutral Pariah

Abilities:
You may at night use Hat Trick.
In the day you may use Vanish.

Hat Trick (inf)
You may target someone at night.

If you target a good person, you will frame them, making them look like Magician to investigative roles.

If you target a Evil, you will illusion them, making them look like town and reveal their true role & alignment to you.

Vanish (2)
Once per day, you may use Vanish.

No one will be told if Vanish is activated.

Vanish will hide roles of all day killed and lynches.

Attributes:
You will learn Evils true roles if you use Hat Trick.
This will also include Non-Aligned Town, Town Roles as you will illusion them aswell.

Victory Condition:
You win once all town members have fallen.

yes this is just #1262210800958050304 LOL

sweet shell
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thief instant Teams reaction

vagrant gazelle
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so its basically just a pure deception pariah

marble matrix
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yup

vagrant gazelle
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also daykills arent prominent enough for vanish to be very useful

marble matrix
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i don't see the problem with that

marble matrix
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i think it can be kinda useful

vagrant gazelle
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this lacks universal coverage

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at best it could cover all tis

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but nothing else

marble matrix
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what?

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how does enc-

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ok explain

vagrant gazelle
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alterate

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a universal coverage ability

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it always works

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it always deceives

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no matter the list

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even if all tis are dead

marble matrix
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vanish is also

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lynch

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not just daykill

vagrant gazelle
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yeah but that just makes vanish a really bad medusa buff that decided to not become a part of dusa

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and instead a pariah role

sweet shell
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@marble matrix I don't think pure deception NP can work bc of how good the other NP are

marble matrix
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oh well

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i really just did it to prove a point that the shitty disguiser thing was shitty

sweet shell
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make a serious role next time?

marble matrix
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it is serious

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it's an improved version

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of someone'e else crap lmao

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is it petty?

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yes

sweet shell
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but what was the point

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q.q

marble matrix
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it is serious

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100% yes

marble matrix
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it would be weaker than all the other current nps

sweet shell
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but they don't work because they don't have the power of Judge or Auditor

marble matrix
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but still

marble matrix
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it just gets outscaled

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techinally that's a not problem of the role

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but other roles

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lmao

vagrant gazelle
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no its also a problem of the role

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nps are supposed to be strong

sleek sentinel
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This role is way too good for a NP

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NP are op in general purely because of their win condition but there are too many frame roles rn

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I feel like it should either be NP enchanter or illusionist but not both

marble matrix
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2

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what the fuck are you on?

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ok well 2 max in a game

sleek sentinel
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In modes like pandora a framer is much more common

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and without a team it can backfire

marble matrix
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oh fuck off pandora is litterally 2 factions combining

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also how it can "backfire"

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if you target an evil you illusion them

sleek sentinel
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double frame, you can't coordinate with hysteria, etc.

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framing the tt

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especially

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or NOT framing the tt can be dangerous if you want to go that route of making tt immune

vagrant gazelle
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yeah no idk what ennys on about

sleek sentinel
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why would you frame/defend someone if you don't know who they are

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or what their plan is

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the hat trick thing is fun though

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I'm just biased towards TT tbh

vagrant gazelle
sleek sentinel
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you can’t scumread tt to that degree

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the only solution ig is ban the role from those modes

marble matrix
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bro

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it litterally

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illusions the TT

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how can that backfire

sleek sentinel
vagrant gazelle
sleek sentinel
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My main point is that evils coordinate with their team who they want to frame. NP can’t do that and it can backfire during hunt. I’ve made my point so we can agree to disagree.

vagrant gazelle
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if its during hunt why would mag ever visit

vital thistle
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The problem with hiding daykill roles is that with the exception of lynching, you 99.9% know the Alignment of the dead player. If a dep shot, it was probably evil. If a conj nuked, it was probably town, etc. Thus could synergize well with tt dep/pros, but other than that it only really hides the Alignment of the lynched person, which isn't enough to justify wanting it over another NP

glossy jolt
marble matrix
safe wadi
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mmm this reminds me of something I can't just put my finger on it... /j || Anyway I like this but from what I learned is pure deception roles aren't the best for pariah imo I feel pariah's need action or chaos causing. Otherwise I like it!