#Wildling Buff - Live Targeting Feed

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hexed kiln
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Wildling (Coven Utility)

Attack: None
Defense: None

Abilities:

  • Observe a player at night, learning who they visited and who visited them.
  • Sense a player during the day, permanently revealing their location.

Attributes:

  • Your heightened senses allow you to overhear whispers.
  • With the Necronomicon, players you visit are dealt a Basic Attack.

Observe (♾️)

  • Observe a player at night, learning who they visited and who visited them.
  • You will know if your target used a special ability tonight.

Sense (3)

  • Sense a player during the day, permanently revealing their location until you die.
  • You will receive live updates on who Sensed targets are targeting.
  • You will know if any Sensed targets are choosing to use their special ability.
  • Sensed players know they are being Sensed.
  • Sensed targets become unable to change their targets halfway through the night phase.

Feedback

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strong meteor
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Huh, interesting

hexed kiln
thorn onyx
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Why is it astral

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Like in the first place

strong meteor
hexed kiln
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Where LO is astral

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Hence the note

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I'll remove it

thorn onyx
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Well

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I mean if you really think itll be in base tos2 let alone btos2

hexed kiln
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Except with a twist

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Since the information is given in real time, you can relay it back to your coven and they can react to it

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You can keep tabs on up to three people this way, but it does out your presence due to logistical issues

strong meteor
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Actually I can see it being almost useless

thorn onyx
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I think this is too op

hexed kiln
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The duality of man

strong meteor
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The meta will just be do your actions 5 seconds before night ends

hexed kiln
strong meteor
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Oh huh

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Do sensed players know they are sensed?

hexed kiln
# hexed kiln # Wildling (Coven Utility) **Attack:** None **Defense:** None __**Abilities:**...

Feedback:

Observe:

Your target did not visit anyone last night.
No one visited your target last night.
Your target visited [Player]!
[Player] visited your target last night!
You detect that your target has used their special ability.

Sense:

You feel a chill run down your spine. You get the feeling that a Wildling is Sensing your movements.
The Wildling's eyes paralyze you with fear. Your decision is now locked in.

[Player] has decided to target [Player] tonight.
[Player] has instead decided to target [Player] tonight.
[Player] has changed their mind.
[Player] has decided to use their special ability.
[Player] has decided to not use their special ability.
[Player]'s decision is now locked in.

hexed kiln
strong meteor
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Ok then

hexed kiln
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Maybe read the rolecard before making comments 💀

strong meteor
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I did, I missed some parts

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I mean it would still probably become do your actions right before 15 seconds, to give coven as little time to react

hexed kiln
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Maybe not enough to write an alteration within

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But enough for any other action to be changed based on what the Wildling relays back

strong meteor
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I can see fast mode or modes where there is less time fucking with this

hexed kiln
hexed kiln
thorn onyx
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I mean i feel like wildling is fine as the state that its in

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And this is a direct buff

hexed kiln
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Lmao

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Wildling gives off the illusion of being fine because its claimbag role

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But it has zero utility outside of that

thorn onyx
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So completely buffing it is your awnseer

hexed kiln
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It's pretty much a worse PM

thorn onyx
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Answer

hexed kiln
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Historically, evil investigatives have always been weak

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And in practice

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Wildling is weak

thorn onyx
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It can read whispers for fucks sake

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That can do a lot

hexed kiln
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It's extremely inconsistent

thorn onyx
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Well town never just doesnt whisper

hexed kiln
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Also

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Town can lie in whispers

thorn onyx
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Bruh

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If a guy was telling a tpow their role

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Would they really lie

hexed kiln
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Tpow meta doesnt happen every game you know

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Relying on whispers for power is why Wildling is in such a weak state

thorn onyx
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Wildling can find nks

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Mainly sk

hexed kiln
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Not gonna lie

thorn onyx
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It has uses

hexed kiln
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The fact that you think a literal LO + Tracker fusion for Coven, the faction that in ranked, is going to know more than enough of this scattered info from massclaim meta anyway

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Is balanced

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Is kind of sad

thorn onyx
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But im too stupid to explain them

hexed kiln
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Wildling needs more usecases outside of mass info gathering

thorn onyx
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Oh yeah

hexed kiln
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This is a unique usecase that still plays into its information aspect

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Oh

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And by the way

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Current Sense is a pretty pathetic ability in any non-tplo meta game

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PM outclasses it in almost every way

thorn onyx
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Dude

hexed kiln
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It's only use is for claiming LO and Tracker

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Any info you learn from Sense becomes redundant

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Since town will just say who they visited if pushed

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And PM is better at finding neutrals

thorn onyx
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Im too stupid for this

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You could see who a tp is going on, who a vigi is shooting, etc

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Sense is not useless/pathetic

hexed kiln
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May I remind you what game we're in

thorn onyx
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Dude

hexed kiln
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Tos2 has massclaim meta

thorn onyx
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Tps dont only go on 1 person

hexed kiln
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By the time you learn who a TP was on for the night

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The night is already over

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Unless they specifically claim Trapper and refuse to out their trap

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That information is of no use to you

thorn onyx
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You literally said 15 seconds is enough time

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And it is

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Enough time to tell book holder who to attack

hexed kiln
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Because you're right, this is what the rework aims to address

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It gives Wildling the ability to think ahead of town

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Which is really cool imo

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But also not broken, as town has counterplay to information abilities and it doesn't do anything outside of make Coven's decisions smarter

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It's not a power role

thorn onyx
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Ok u win

hexed kiln
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I believe this to be a nerf overall, but seeing the massive amount of utility that Sense provides, it's what I would consider justified for now.

hexed kiln
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bump

strong meteor
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Who should I summon for this

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Uhhhh

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POWER WORD:@mystic summit

mystic summit
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hh

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ive already expressed what i dont like about this i think

strong meteor
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Complain about people bumping

mystic summit
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oh

mystic summit
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its not allowed here and its also annoying

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since its not actual discussion about the idea

hexed kiln
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I see

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My bad

hexed kiln
granite moat
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Takes me way back because I had an idea similar-ish in tos 1, it was done a bit eh tho lool

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There is a potential issue that people can meta it by re-choosing at the last second but

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You can’t fix it really without people learning the role is in play

granite moat
hexed kiln
granite moat
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Uh

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I plea the fifth

granite moat
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Anywau ignoring the part where I didn’t read, I feel like what I mentioned before still applies tho that this now makes wildling a loud role, I think that’s a bit counteractive to the role as a whole though right?

hexed kiln
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I think since this is a straight buff with quite a powerful ability attached to it

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It does balance itself out though

granite moat
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I suppose yeah

hexed kiln
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Ofc this makes Wildling less of a claimbag role

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Think in terms of Tos1 BM

granite moat
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I think it works against the whisper reading like bmer yea

hexed kiln
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If you blackmailed, you lost your secrecy and ability to read whispers

granite moat
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But I’d rather have this than whisper reading

hexed kiln
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So you essentially "toggle" which ability you want to get the most out of

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If town are whispering a lot

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You don't have to sense until late game

granite moat
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Yeah that’s fair

hexed kiln
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And if Trackers/LOs exist

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Using Sense puts sus on them

granite moat
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To a extent yea

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I feel like wildling being silent probably does a better job if that overall

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In niche situations you can make someone look more directly sus tho

hexed kiln
hexed kiln
granite moat