dusky ledge
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admirer already makes people astral, might as well give illu this as well (illu is my fav role)
if this doesn't work at least allow it to make people invisible to lookout like other lookouts already are, unless thats already a thing in which case i am stupid
signal tulip
no
signal tulip
or let illu choose who they appear to visit
bitter wasp
perhaps
signal jewel
I thought this was already a thing added?
signal tulip
its not and shouldnt
bitter wasp
the only change they gave illu was mass hysteria (which is still hot garbage)
viscid bolt
astral isn't needed, since it makes vet worthless in a coven illusionist game, and illusion stops trap from killing coven (I believe)
dusky ledge
yes it does
bitter wasp
I think it's just the wrong direction to take illu
it leans more in on the whole anti-tp thing rather than actual deception
viscid bolt
if anything make it where if necronom holder is illusioned' the coroner just see that their target was an illusionist, it'll confuse everyone just a bit
viscid bolt
if anything make it where if necronom holder is illusioned' the coroner just see...
Might be a terrible concept, btw, just thought I'd post that for judgement
bitter wasp
why not just make coroner see illusioned targets as not being the killer
making coroner unfoolable was a bad execution of a "buff" anyways and it wouldn't exactly drown with necronomicon passing and secret killers being things
viscid bolt
why not just make coroner see illusioned targets as not being the killer
there is, only one instance where a coroner is messed with, hysteria, I got messed up in a game like that
unless that was a 'bug' and got 'patched out'
which in that case, ew, I liked that it messed me up
bitter wasp
there is, only one instance where a coroner is messed with, hysteria, I got mess...
it still kinda upsets me how instead of simply giving illu and enchanter broad coverage over investigative abilities, they decided to throw all the coverage they were missing into a single ability
viscid bolt
yea, I feel like it goes against the expected results of an illusionist
bitter wasp
like mass hysteria covers everything, but it's a bad execution of that and ultimately solves a problem that could've just as easily been solved in a much better way
viscid bolt
it's weird to make if cases that stop the expected result
bitter wasp
aka just giving its effects to illu and enchanter
like how tracker sees everyone visit the same target as the book holder
just give that to enchanter
viscid bolt
like how tracker sees everyone visit the same target as the book holder
...so they see all of coven see someone get killed?
unless you meant LITERALLY everyone
which in that case, kinda funny
bitter wasp
tuba said that he was tracked to the book kill as illu once
viscid bolt
The LO seeing everyone going to 13
bitter wasp
I said tracker
viscid bolt
I was making a joke
bitter wasp
lookout sees nothing
bitter wasp
I was making a joke
well execute it BETTER next time
viscid bolt
I was honestly considering the concept of enchanter just making all visits look like they go to a single place for a night, only messes with certain TI but those TI tend to be the hard hitters
bitter wasp
well that just recreates my issues with mass hysteria but even worse
viscid bolt
shrug I just spit random ideas until one's good
lunar zenith
astral isn't needed, since it makes vet worthless in a coven illusionist game, a...
Necro-Holding Poisoner:
viscid bolt
Necro-Holding Poisoner:
I think poisoner deserves it for being coven's personal bartender
signal tulip
pois being able to rb while attacking is the same as pois doubling up on book target
viscid bolt
it's poisoners main mechanic to roleblock, and stops people from just having hex hold book so its astral attacks
letting coven have niches with certain coven holding the book lets people be more critical on who they choose, which I think is a good thing
viscid bolt
I think poisoner deserves it for being coven's personal bartender
This is also a joke answer, if that wasn't obvious
lunar zenith
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admirer already makes people astral, might as well give illu this as well (...
In essence, Illusions already make Coven Astral in most scenarios, with 2 exceptions.
Visit-based attacking (Veteran, my beloved. ❤️)
Actually tracking where they came from, and where they go where did you come from, cotton eye joe.
In pretty much any other scenarios, Illusioned Visits are basically the same as Astral, as it's virtually the same interactions with the 2 TP that are already fcuked over by Astral (BG and Trapper).