coven starspawn
#Jinx [overhaul]
tidal cedar
What's wrong with coven starspawn?
It could only bounce if coven fails to kill at night
lapis canopy
...We don't need a THIRD Starspawn, lmao.
chilly estuary
chilly estuary
so basically
tidal cedar
...We don't need a THIRD Starspawn, lmao.
Okay, why?
chilly estuary
starspawn is all evil aligned
right?
coven is an evil faction
why does coven need a 2nd starspawn
tidal cedar
To recover their failing kill I guess
chilly estuary
this isnt it for that
tidal cedar
Huh?
tidal cedar
Yeah
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tidal cedar
it isnt it
Okay, why?
chilly estuary
this would be the worst coven role by a mile
its walmart starspawn but can only act when coven failed to kill
chilly estuary
this is fucking a worse starspawn
you’re never going to want to have this on your coven comp
tidal cedar
Why are you so sure about it?
chilly estuary
because its not hard to figure out
starspawn does this but infinitely better
but this cant block tp on tplo and ss can
hard dew
this would be the #1 book sponge for every comp
chilly estuary
this would be the #1 book sponge for every comp
hard dew
like there's literally no reason for this not to have the necronomicon under any circumstances
silver vigil
i thought bounce meant all visitors on the target were redirected to another visitor LOL or another taregt
hard dew
unless if you're reading an rb/investigate
but even then this would probably be rb immune
because of priority
tidal cedar
starspawn does this but infinitely better
But starspawn can't directly communicate with coven
Coven needs to find them first anyway
chilly estuary
But starspawn can't directly communicate with coven
should i start taking shots
hard dew
i thought bounce meant all visitors on the target were redirected to another vis...
ya "bounce" is a weird word
I prefer "reject" or "stop"
or block
chilly estuary
i think of bouncers in bars that just kick you out
chilly estuary
???
tidal cedar
should i start taking shots
Idk why are you raging to me?
chilly estuary
no?
chilly estuary
clarify what
tidal cedar
i think of bouncers in bars that just kick you out
This
chilly estuary
💀
is that just not a thing the rest of the world has
people who kick you out of the bar when you start to fight people or get too drunk
tidal cedar
I mean why you're taking shots?
chilly estuary
tidal cedar
I'm just saying ss can't directly communicate with coven
chilly estuary
I'm just saying ss can't directly communicate with coven
it can pretty often
even then it can still execute its ability well
if coven are aware ss exists they both go for tplo
regardless we dont need 3 starspawns
tidal cedar
^ unless of course the starspawn decides to go on some random dude
Well they can't communicate
That's the issue
silver vigil
you just have to read what’s going on and note claims
starspawn is a tactical role
chilly estuary
Well they can't communicate
it takes a low amount of communication to realize starspawn will be on confirmed town roles / tplo / tpow claims
especially because its relatively loud even with the changes
lapis canopy
starspawn is a tactical role
Starspawn still needs some buffs, IMO. The less abrasive "Obstacle" message helps, but it still needs a bit more.
chilly estuary
Starspawn still needs some buffs, IMO. The less abrasive "Obstacle" message help...
adding a 3rd starspawn isnt it either
silver vigil
Starspawn still needs some buffs, IMO. The less abrasive "Obstacle" message help...
in what way do you think it’s underpowered
chilly estuary
in what way do you think it’s underpowered
it just forces dep/marshal/mayor to reveal next day
tidal cedar
it takes a low amount of communication to realize starspawn will be on confirmed...
Okay, but what would makes coven think it's starspawn instead of crusader?
chilly estuary
its not high impact on its one use
chilly estuary
Okay, but what would makes coven think it's starspawn instead of crusader?
if high value townies get bounced, its probably ss
silver vigil
it just forces dep/marshal/mayor to reveal next day
in most cases, the daybreak is used in critical moments
chilly estuary
especially when other tp
chilly estuary
in most cases, the daybreak is used in critical moments
daybreak is really only used in calamities
(famine/death)
lapis canopy
adding a 3rd starspawn isnt it either
Exactly, said that earlier as well.
And it's...eh, I feel like SS rarely can coordinate with other evils, and SS's that I played with seemed to NEVER go onto good targets.
silver vigil
i’ve seen it be used a lot in near coven maj situations
chilly estuary
Exactly, said that earlier as well.
And it's...eh, I feel like SS rarely can co...
cant balance on people not knowing how to play
tidal cedar
if high value townies get bounced, its probably ss
Hmmm... Probably
silver vigil
Exactly, said that earlier as well.
And it's...eh, I feel like SS rarely can co...
that’s more of a player issue
jinx should probably just stay ambusher tbh
can’t really think of much else around it
chilly estuary
jinx should probably just stay ambusher tbh
no
tidal cedar
Adding kpn to coven is also not my preference
chilly estuary
jinx should be a comeback tool instead of useless role
or whatever the fuck they tried to make with ambusher
silver vigil
exactly what were they trying to cook with ambusher
other than it just being outed if more than one saw it
hard dew
people who kick you out of the bar when you start to fight people or get too dru...
bouncers are more associated with clubs I think
the big guy that stands outside of the club and makes sure people are allowed entry