If at least one Coven is a heretic, Inquisitor will be affected by Hysteria as an enemy to the Coven. If none of the heretics are Coven, Inquisitor is unaffected by Hysteria since Coven has no reason to mess up the Inquisitor at that point.
#Hysteria Effects on Inquisitor
summer veldt
quartz sun
inquisitor should be fool proof
mystic crater
this is already the case and is also really shit
summer veldt
this is already the case and is also really shit
Source?
mystic crater
brave junco
this is already the case and is also really shit
It's way too punishing and seems crazy inconsistent on actually helping the Coven. Man can just skip over a town heretic or slash a Coven who isn't a heretic
summer veldt
this is already the case and is also really shit
That’s not what I said at all then
Because according to that bug report, Illusionist affected Inquis even though no Coven was heretic
So it’s not “already the case”
mystic crater
inquis is foolable so it is the case
yours is just gimmicky as fuck and stupid
more stupid than it currently is
hidden pecan
yours is just gimmicky as fuck and stupid
ok but language pls lol
brave junco
Hi, mister nuggy
summer veldt
Man you’re so fun to talk to
mystic crater
you want to make an ne foolable by deception
summer veldt
Yes if they are an enemy to Coven
mystic crater
an ne thats reliant on the info it gets to win
hidden pecan
Hi, mister nuggy
halloooo
brave junco
He'd like to make the already existing foolability make a bit more sense.
I think it's different and it's a noble intent.
mystic crater
or any neutral
mystic crater
He'd like to make the already existing foolability make a bit more sense.
I th...
shouldnt it be removed tho???
hidden pecan
imo, coven has never needed tools to deal with Neutrals, because they already have the power of Majority
brave junco
shouldnt it be removed tho???
Yes.
mystic crater
exactly
hidden pecan
Neutrals have none of that
mystic crater
the only tool they should have is their votes
mystic crater
and if they cant keep those votes then get fucked
hidden pecan
NKs and NEs deserve a chance
summer veldt
**coven shouldnt have the tools to fuck nes**
First of all
If this change was implemented
Inquis knows whether it has Coven in its heretics list
mystic crater
so?
summer veldt
Hysteria doesn’t make Inquis automatically lose all vanquishes for the same reason that it doesn’t lead to 500 mislynches
mystic crater
that doesnt justify the fact its main ability to find heretics is ruined by some arbitrary system
summer veldt
It’s possible to play around Hysteria if they can determine that night’s results is hysteria’d
brave junco
But it doesn't know that the Coven he's savagely beating with the hilt of his sword has actually not been marked as a heretic.
(She hasn't)
crisp sinew
ah, yes, very interesting priorities they have here
it affects barely over half of the ti, but it also affects inquis!
so good ability!
mystic crater
it affects barely over half of the ti, but it also affects inquis!
'nuhhh tracker and lo being foolable by deception is stupid, but an ne should totally be affected'
summer veldt
I’m just suggestion one change to one role with one interaction
brave junco
How exactly do you want me to fix that then
It's not really your fault with tracker and Lookout.
summer veldt
I can’t fix its interaction with Tracker and Lookout
And blaming that on me or this suggestion is ridiculous
mystic crater
im not blaming you for the fucking tracker/lookout interaction
im blaming whoever coded this stupid interaction
crisp sinew
what all does hysteria even affect?
summer veldt
im blaming whoever coded this stupid interaction
That’s fair
mystic crater
sheriff, seer, invest blood, psy, inquis, pb
summer veldt
The current stage is probably the worst choice
crisp sinew
sheriff, seer, invest blood, psy, inquis, pb
how does it affect psy?
summer veldt
Either choose this or make Inquis unfoolable, Inquis always being foolable is bad
crisp sinew
just on their initial target?
mystic crater
how does it affect psy?
something about inverting how it sees everyone i think
crisp sinew
huh
brave junco
something about inverting how it sees everyone i think
If that's right, you can still have Coven in the evil vision even if they aren't "the evil"
crisp sinew
If that's right, you can still have Coven in the evil vision even if they aren'...
ya, this is a problem with psy when it comes to deception in general
brave junco
also pb??
Plaguebearer isn't a neutral. If this info is right, It's weird that hysteria would affect Plaguebearer but not Lookout??
crisp sinew
the result can always just be accurate anyways
summer veldt
It’s possible to play around Hysteria if they can determine that night’s results...
That’s the real reason why I suggested this, because I think Inquis should play more carefully if it has a Coven as heretic and it suspects Illusionist is in the game with the TI info being screwed up
crisp sinew
Plaguebearer isn't a neutral. If this info is right, It's weird that hysteria w...
do sc/warlock deceive the coven?
summer veldt
Whether you agree with that or not is up to you
quartz sun
That’s the real reason why I suggested this, because I think Inquis should play ...
inquis cant know unless illu is heretic
inquisitor doesn’t have the resources to know these things
or the time
brave junco
do sc/warlock deceive the coven?
I try to avoid AA as much as possible, but I am pretty sure tube said the frame-ee would appear to be soul collector to PM.
mystic crater
thats stupid
summer veldt
inquis cant know unless illu is heretic
Yeah alright fine
Then scratch this and just title it as “Make Inquis unaffected by Hysteria”