Doomsayer Tweak IG? | BetterTOS2 | Page 1

surreal bison Mar 22, 2024, 7:34 PM

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Doomsayer winrates drop to 0%

hearty grove Mar 22, 2024, 7:57 PM

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wow this solves nothing

ebon thistle Mar 22, 2024, 7:57 PM

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surreal bison Doomsayer winrates drop to 0%

No, this guy is actually on the right path. Even if it's not the correct answer.

What other Neutrals are you going to be finding in Jackal Returns anyway? Just Jackal.

surreal bison Mar 22, 2024, 7:58 PM

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Just overhaul it to where it isnt that anti vfr

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Cause vfr is a dead meta

thorny wadi Mar 22, 2024, 7:59 PM

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Vfr is literally dead currently because of the anticlaim

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Doomsayer is a large proponent of this

ebon thistle Mar 22, 2024, 7:59 PM

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hearty grove wow this solves nothing

It does solve something. If Coven dominates a JR lobby, Doomsayer can't just give Town the win .

And if this Doomsayer was in basegame, it wouldn't just overthrow Coven wins.

I wouldn't say it's perfect, but what he's saying is generally better to me than 3 evils dying the next day because someone gambled on a Twitch stream.

hearty grove Mar 22, 2024, 8:00 PM

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doomsayers issue is its an ne roleguesser

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nes arent truly aligned with evils

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not 100%

sacred sun Mar 22, 2024, 8:02 PM

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i didnt want to entirely move it out of the ne role bucket so i tried to make it a sort of psuedo np

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but yeah the dead meta is a fair argument

surreal bison Mar 22, 2024, 8:03 PM

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Still suffers from boring to play and bad role design

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Inherently vfr needed to die, making a full anti coven role isn’t the way

sacred sun Mar 22, 2024, 8:03 PM

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i mean this rework isnt really

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anti coven

surreal bison Mar 22, 2024, 8:05 PM

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Ds overall is anti coven

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This tweak is anti doomsayer

sacred sun Mar 22, 2024, 8:05 PM

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howso

surreal bison Mar 22, 2024, 8:06 PM

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Must have a full claiming/revealed townie on top of 2 coven

sacred sun Mar 22, 2024, 8:06 PM

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what

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oh

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it says you have to guess atleast 1 town role

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not only 1 town role

surreal bison Mar 22, 2024, 8:07 PM

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Yeah

sacred sun Mar 22, 2024, 8:07 PM

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you can guess 1 town 2 cov 2 town 1 cov or 3 town

twin plover Mar 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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What Lag is saying is for wincon its most likely easy to just guess ppl as RC

sacred sun Mar 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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oh alr

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that makes sense

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ig in that case theres not much you can do to help it

surreal bison Mar 22, 2024, 8:31 PM

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VFR is so dead that doom wont have anything to go off of if it cant guess all covens

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until it is found out and dies

naive turtle Mar 22, 2024, 8:45 PM

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not perfect but it's a step in the right direction

#Doomsayer Tweak IG?