#Magus - Coven (Power)

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hardy relic
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time to port an old tos1 role i made cuz fuck it

"Your target gives people unrefutable hatred towards others. They must be the Magus."

Magus - Coven Power

Attributes:

  • ⚔️ Attack: Basic
  • 🛡️ Defense: None
  • Can it be roleblocked? Yes
  • Can it be controlled? Yes
  • Is it unique? Yes

Abilties:

  • Taglock your target.
  • Puppeteer your target.

(♾️) Taglock - NIGHT

  • On odd nights, taglock your target, giving them the cursed status effect. This can be removed by Admirers if targetted the same night.
  • Cursed players will be given the inverse of whatever night feedback they were supposed to receive on the night theyre cursed. E.g shooting someone not immune as vigi on the night you're cursed will tell you they're immune, despite them not being immune.
  • You cannot curse players if you already have someone Cursed.

(♾️) Puppeteer

  • On even nights, force your cursed player into killing your puppeteer target.
  • You may alter the cause of death when forcing someone to kill as Warlock. If you do not select one, it will default to "They were killed by the Coven."
  • Cursed Players are not controlled, and will still carry out their normal night action. Cursed Players are told they are puppeteered, and all investigative results will show them as the killer of their target. Trackers and Lookouts will see taglocked players as visiting the puppeteer target only, and not whoever they originally visited.

Attributes:

  • With the Necronomicon, you will ignore the odd/even rule be able to Taglock and Puppeteer in the same night.

  • You are above Jinx in the Necronomicon Priority.

inland lake
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is this not better ench/illu fused with witch

hardy relic
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i dont get that statement lmao

inland lake
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coven also doesnt need more roles that can boost their kpn

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it needs its kpn lessenned

hardy relic
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making it any slower makes it impractical is the issue

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0.5 kpn was the most reasonable i could do it

inland lake
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the issue is that its more kpn

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coven needs less independant kills

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and more limits on them

normal delta
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I think if the kill had 1 charge then it would be fine

silk nebulaBOT
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@normal delta has leveled up! (5 ➜ 6)

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inland lake
normal delta
inland lake
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still a kill dude

normal delta
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it’s CP alignment so it would spawn in rarely anyway

inland lake
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uhh fix that fix that

rugged nova
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i feel like puppeteer should be a necronomicon action

inland lake
rugged nova
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and else you can only curse

normal delta
rugged nova
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so you can:

  • curse n1
  • get book n2 and puppeteer
  • give book to someone else n3 and curse
  • get book n4 and puppeteer
  • and so on
inland lake
rugged nova
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tf

inland lake
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its literally shroud

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as the book attack

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like its bad enough that necro has ghoul and hm has astral

rugged nova
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hm having astral is still weird to me

normal delta
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hm had astral tos1

rugged nova
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ok but like

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doesnt that ruin the point of hm

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needing to explain your visits

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to everyone

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also

normal delta
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claim a non visiting role

rugged nova
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the book just destroys hm

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cuz they cant hex bomb

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unless they hexed earlier

normal delta
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hex is low priority

rugged nova
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yeah but like

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imagine hm has book cuz its a pm/rit combo

normal delta
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also like

rugged nova
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hm is fucked

inland lake
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its only redeeming factor is the astrak

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its a crutch

normal delta
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that’s why necro passing exists

inland lake
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and an unhealthy one

rugged nova
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then let it fucking kill and hex at the same time

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and just make hexing astral

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and kill normal visit

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or let it pick to kill or hex who they visit

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one of those 2

inland lake
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or just make it a normal attack

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#1214680603341881364

normal delta
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veteran feels redundant because of necro/hm

rugged nova
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so then you just broke your own argument

rugged nova
rugged nova
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also vet can literally counter this

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since they normally visit the vet

normal delta
inland lake
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i just want it to be a normal attack

rugged nova
inland lake
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it visits one guy

inland lake
rugged nova
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yea

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that makes sense

inland lake
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i want the astral removed

rugged nova
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yes

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also like

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this isnt exactly shroud

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its worse

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you're seen visiting the puppeteered person

inland lake
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that too

inland lake
rugged nova
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and you need to taglock

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but you get to pick cause of death

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i think its a fair trade-off

inland lake
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its not

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just say killed by coven

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boom theyre framed

rugged nova
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0.5 kpn with no book passing

normal delta
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it’s still 0.5 kpn on a faction that doesn’t need more guarenteed kills

rugged nova
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(coven overall)

rugged nova
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going off of that

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speaking of

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@hardy relic you should make puppeteer a necronomicon action

inland lake
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thats a whole new problem

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a tos1 coven problem

rugged nova
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tf does tos1 have to do with this

inland lake
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tos1 coven had this issue

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all coven had niche interactions with book

normal delta
inland lake
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im not talking about the kills

normal delta
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atleast it didn’t feel like mafioso treatment

inland lake
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im talking about the additional power boosts

inland lake
normal delta
rugged nova
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also lets be honest this can be underpowered if coven keep the book on them

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it just halves coven kpn

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for exchange for some framing kills

inland lake
inland lake
rugged nova
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tos1 coven had a serious problem

normal delta
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yeah

rugged nova
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CL + medusa = +1 free kill
poisoner = +1 free kill

normal delta
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poisoner was just a delayed mafioso

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guarenteed a KPN without book

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and if there is a doctor you can atleast control where the doctor goes each night