#Discussion of possible nerfs
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vet needs an overhaul
jailor is too controversial
marshal just needs its power to be less bursty and more of a consistent threat to evils
rit is swingy as shit and actually needs to force vfa
Nerf spy
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I don't think Jailor needs to be nerfed honestly
It's already been balanced imho via starspawn + the bigger punishment on mis-executing + auditor
Also, not saying to balance around idiots, but certain townies... ๐จ
we dont
However
we dont
I think:
I agree w/ Vigi nerf
Disagree w/ Vet
Agree w/ Marshal
Disagree w/ Ritualist
Vigilante:
Could definitely use the nerf. It almost feels like Jailor-lite, with the additional benefit of being able to not insta-die to SK/WW during the night.
Going to 2 charges would be good, though part of me likes the idea of shooting N1
Veteran:
While I think Vet can be irritating to fight, I think he's just...fine. There are multiple ways to deal with a Veteran (Conjurer, Ritualist, CL + PM, Necromancer) when Coven, though he's basically a giant "DO NOT ATTACK" target for NKs/NSs.
The drawing out the game is an issue of skill - the veteran survived long enough to still have alerts that late into the game? Lowkey deserves it.
Jailor:
Stated above.
TOS2 Jailor feels balanced enough already.
Marshal:
Isn't that powerful CONSISTENTLY (It's really easy to hijack), however I feel like Marshal's the class that deserves an overhaul most. I don't have any ideas on this, but I do find it problematic that Marshal can either insta-win games or insta-lose.
Ritualist:
It's fine. It doesn't need nerfs. The fact that it requires PM/Witch to be consistent is enough, honestly. Yes, it's annoying to be unable to insta-open-claim, but changing Rit requires changing DS too. At most, I'd say lower it to 2 charges and give it a cooldown of a night or two.
oh i agree with DS
i fucking hate DS rn
litterally town alligned NE
if you can't be consistent with rit without a PM/Witch you just are
Vigi: Everyone and their mother has said the same thing, remove hangman and a bullet and its perfect.
Vet: Not sure how to tackle this one as lack of direct agency sucks but a full rework might be awkward so its in a spot where it doesnt need a change but could use one later down the line.
Jailor: Not touching this one whats been said has already been said millions of times on Jailor.
Marshal: Its not as OP as people think but it is frustrating, but the main issue is that Marsh, Pros, and Mayor currently exist in a vacuum where one will always be better than the others Pros is that currently to Marsh and Mayor
Rit: Punishment is to great for messing up but also shouldent punish people as hard as it does for getting lucky and having a pm/witch on the team, that interaction needs to be changed a bit and rit needs a buff elsewhere.