PP V3 NK edition | BetterTOS2 | Page 1

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 12:51 AM

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SK, Werewolf, 3 nps, Jailor, 2 TP, 3 RT, 2 TI, 1 TS and 1 tpow. Whispers are annomynous to incentivize team claims with the NKS and the NP. Bans- Sheriff

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:14 AM

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Kingmaker np time, lessssssssssssss go

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:15 AM

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Yeah def

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Lmao

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:15 AM

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spring rose Kingmaker np time, lessssssssssssss go

well if town dies NP leaves so no

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not really

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unless it's 1v1v1vN

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:16 AM

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Tbf there is a lot of problems with the PP role list

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I thought making it NKs

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would make it more balanced for town

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and give them more breathing room

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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you know what is wrong with PP

glacial rapids Feb 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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Ban coroner

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fr

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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it's that it is a Neutral only list in a game where neutrals are completely scuffed

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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warped axle well if town dies NP leaves so no

Tbf while town is alive they can choose which nk to help

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:17 AM

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for PPV3

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for PPV2

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it's just that it is your average 6v9

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:18 AM

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Also sk will 100% win more times than shroud

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:18 AM

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while you have 3 coven and 3 idiots

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:18 AM

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Because shroud can't kill sk

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:18 AM

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spring rose Also sk will 100% win more times than shroud

I have been thinking about making it WW

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but I was worried it would be the same problem

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:18 AM

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At least sk can sometimes kill ww

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:19 AM

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I will change it to WW

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:19 AM

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We really need to fix the power level with nks

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Because some are just clearly better than others

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:19 AM

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spring rose We really need to fix the power level with nks

Yeah that is very true

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but I made the whispers anomynous

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:19 AM

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And we need to buff them all

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:19 AM

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spring rose We really need to fix the power level with nks

~~we need to make NKs go pff~~

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:19 AM

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and I incentivize team claims with the NPs

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:19 AM

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like yeah i like NKs

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but they don't really belong to ToS2

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:20 AM

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warped axle but they don't *really* belong to ToS2

What do you mean by that?

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Is it because a faction has 4 of them

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and can be in 1 team

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:21 AM

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leaden pewter Is it because a faction has 4 of them

Both evil factions can obliterate nks

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:21 AM

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spring rose Both evil factions can obliterate nks

Yeah it is supposed to be the other way around

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Evil factions rule over NKs in the day

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NKs rule in the night

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NK day abilities shoudl have been a thing

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:21 AM

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leaden pewter What do you mean by that?

Neutrals are in a weird spot on ToS2, because mainly: ToS2 is a numbers games, the more people you have the more likely you aree to win, the only way to circuvent that is (playing AA/brute forcing). NKs can't brute force well enough because they're alone, and they are the main target for evil faction which make them complete sitting ducks on midgame

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like

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i love NKs

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SK is literally my favorite role

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:22 AM

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But they do not belong but do they belong now

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with the NPs

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working side by side

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with the Nks

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making team claims

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:22 AM

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on PPv3?

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or you mean in general

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:22 AM

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warped axle on PPv3?

PPv3

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:22 AM

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because in general NPs will just try to rush town death

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:23 AM

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leaden pewter PPv3

NKs are not balanced around murdering town, funnily enough

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save

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Arsonist

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Town is too strong for various solo evils who want eachother dead to flourish

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:23 AM

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warped axle Town is too strong for various solo evils who want eachother dead to flourish

That is the NPs job

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to stop the Jailor

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which is countered by Sk and WW

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there is only 1 other tpow

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which could be countered by the NPs

spring rose Feb 22, 2024, 1:24 AM

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warped axle SK is literally my favorite role

You mean tos1 sk?

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:24 AM

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and TKs will be in a RT chance

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so a vigi could destroy the NPs

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but do not rely on it

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:26 AM

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spring rose You mean tos1 sk?

yes

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:26 AM

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leaden pewter to stop the Jailor

just stopping the jailoris not enough

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the rest of the town still can murder SK handly

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:26 AM

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Which Judge can stop the lynch

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:26 AM

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1 lynch

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and needs to have maj

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and needs the other evils to be according with him

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(note, NKs want another NKs dead)

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the NPs don't do enough to save NKs from obliteration

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and NKs aren't gonna push for myslinchs

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(if they do they get Dep'd into oblivion)

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:28 AM

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warped axle (if they do they get Dep'd into oblivion)

There is no Tk slot

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A chance

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to be Depd

warped axle Feb 22, 2024, 1:28 AM

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there is a Tpow slot too

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so

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a chancee to be dep'd and a chance to be Marshall'd

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~~or prossed~~

leaden pewter Feb 22, 2024, 1:30 AM

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warped axle a chancee to be dep'd and a chance to be Marshall'd

Marshal gets countered by judge

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Pros can be stopped by SS

#PP V3 NK edition