#Shroud (Rework) = Neutral (Killing)

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lyric palm
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this is basically just my old NK except reflavored and posted here because it'd make sense as a shroud rework much more than it's own role, and it can be simplified easily, this is just the draft I've had forever

Attack: Variable (Basic / Powerful)
Defense: Variable (Basic Permanent / Powerful Ethereal)

Abilities:
You may shroud a player in a part of your soul during the day.
At night, you may take action depending on the amount of Shrouded players.

Attributes:
With 1 Shrouded player, you may watch over a player: You learn their role, and who they visited.
With 2 Shrouded players, you may choose a Shrouded player, they will attack your second target alongside performing their ability on their intended target.
With 3 Shrouded players, your attack is increased to Powerful.
With 4 Shrouded players, your defense is increased to Powerful (Ethereal).

Shroud - [inf] | ☀️
Shroud a player during the day, adding them to your list of Shrouded players.

Exorcise - [inf] | 🌑
Choose a Shrouded player and a 2nd player, the Shrouded target attacks the 2nd. The Shrouded player you chose registers as the Shroud for all purposes that night.

barren kayak
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kyoshiki

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murasaki

fair mulch
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this is kinda overpowered ngl

barren kayak
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ok now i can fucking read it

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oh it's

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it's just

lyric palm
barren kayak
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huuuuh

lyric palm
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yes its oligarch

barren kayak
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yes

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it's Oligarch

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i like Oligarch

lyric palm
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but since everyone cried that its just better shroud

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i instead made it shroud

fair mulch
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the shroud winning the game because it can't be voted up on d4:

barren kayak
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it is very stupidly strong compared to others NKs

fair mulch
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yeah

barren kayak
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which

lyric palm
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ok maybe the reveal doesn't make sense with this flavor

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i should remove that

barren kayak
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i am completely fine, fuck yall, NK for Life

fair mulch
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NK should be overpowered but this

lyric palm
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oligarch had a reason for a reveal mechanic

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this does not

fair mulch
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is too much just cause it's

barren kayak
fair mulch
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a confirmed win by d5 if ur using it correctly

barren kayak
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no but fr

lyric palm
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ok i removed the reveal mechanic

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because it has no reason to exist

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in this flavor

fair mulch
lyric palm
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now it just doesn't have a 5-shroud mechanic

barren kayak
lyric palm
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tho tbh getting 4 living shrouded players might be a task already

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so it prob doesn't need one

fair mulch
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I mean

barren kayak
lyric palm
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remind me does Jailor do unstoppable or powerful in ToS2

fair mulch
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powerful defense should never be allowed

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powerful

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jailor always has been powerful

lyric palm
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it was unstoppable in ToS1

fair mulch
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the tos1 rolecard was lying for some reason

lyric palm
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oh

barren kayak
fair mulch
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no it's powerful

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^

lyric palm
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dep also does powerful right

barren kayak
fair mulch
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jugg bypassed jail in tos1 and would kill GA healed targets

cunning flare
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dep, jailor, conj are all powerful

fair mulch
lyric palm
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ok im making the defense on 4-shroud Powerful Ethereal

barren kayak
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Jailor had unstop on the rolecard by technicality

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but uhh

fair mulch
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how would that work

barren kayak
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GA existed

lyric palm
fair mulch
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well really

barren kayak
fair mulch
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jugg proved it wasn't unstoppable

barren kayak
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(but GA existed)

fair mulch
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jugg killed ga targets

obsidian birch
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Mhm

fair mulch
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if you could visit a jailed player as a doctor

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you'd prevent the exec

obsidian birch
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If it was Unstoppable, GA wouldnt save target from jail

fair mulch
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so like it truly WAS powerful

barren kayak
fair mulch
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it's just you legit cannot get to protect them for it to be powerful

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(except ga)

fair mulch
barren kayak
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huh.

fair mulch
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it said unstoppable

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was powerful

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and was proven that way because old pesti and jugg

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bypassed it

barren kayak
lyric palm
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ok so i made the 4-shroud Ethereal Powerful so dep / Jailor / veteran can counter it

fair mulch
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no cause admi does it

obsidian birch
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Imagine any Town doing more than Basic Attack smh

fair mulch
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in vanilla tos2

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they changed it to powerful for that reason

barren kayak
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but ToS1 code is different

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ToS1 code

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is

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janky

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and a nightmare honestly

obsidian birch
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Spaghettier

fair mulch
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if we can test it somehow I guarantee you it's powerful

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and just says unstoppable

lyric palm
fair mulch
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they changed it when GA came out im pretty sure tho

barren kayak
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back then VH could spawn without vamps so

fair mulch
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I mean it doesn't really play into shrouds shadowwalker identity

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or the framing

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this probably is better as a juggernaut variant I think

lyric palm
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the player still registers as the attacker to all roles

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so investigator (if we're adding that back) would see blood

fair mulch
lyric palm
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trapper/bg would kill them

fair mulch
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yes they are readding invest

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then this is fine

lyric palm
barren kayak
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anyways

lyric palm
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i was thinking of making that be even to rolecops

barren kayak
lyric palm
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but that might be too stupid

fair mulch
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god you just have 4 shrouds running around

lyric palm
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lmfaooo

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now its funny and i wanna do it

fair mulch
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mine does that

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you can only do it to one player though so

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there's that

lyric palm
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the only part balancing that out is that they only register as the shroud for the night they are forced to attack

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so do we need any other changes here

fair mulch
lyric palm
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kek

fair mulch
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nah I think it's fine

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idk if it truly needs powerful but it's fine

opaque quiver
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this seems pretty damn slow

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and doesnt do a lot of deception