Is it gamethrowing to out all coven that helped push you as jester in your last words?

[visual depot]

well no, you dont win with them, BUT ALSO YOU ARE 100% GETTING REPORTED FOR IT

its just such an asshole move

[spice lodge]

If you’re a Jester, you are not obligated to be loyal to anyone. While it’s not against the rules, it just makes you look like a dick.

So just don’t do it, to be safe.

[lilac chasm]

Now apply that logic to jackal recruits please

Just for a moment

[honest badger]

recs are diff because they get the info while jester earns it

[pearl vine]

@honest badger has leveled up! (10 ➜ 11)

[honest badger]

So yes you can.

[lilac chasm]

What a good reason to ban any recruit that outs that information, even if they are getting a big benefit from outing 2 or more covens

[honest badger]

Here’s the thing

The coven didn’t chose to get outed

However in jesters case a member of their faction made a mistake

[lilac chasm]

The problem is that the response to it is a fucking ban

I already said that the scales are far bigger for a recruit outing

but still

[honest badger]

Womp womp make it a warning

Then ban

[lilac chasm]

Remove last wills and last words, then make it a ban if the recruit is only outing at d2 or revenge outing

[honest badger]

Bro no

Last wills are really important

[lilac chasm]

bro

[honest badger]

Or fucking vm becomes broken

[lilac chasm]

the last wills are already getting removed

[honest badger]

Oh of recs

[lilac chasm]

I mean last wills of a recruited coven

are you

mad

insane?

💀

I was saying: The coven recruit cannot even say "x, x and x is voting the same person who is currently only needs to be voted by coven which means this is a obvious coven push which means all of them are probably coven"

because that would be considered outing all your coven directly

even if you are saying it in d4, d5 where there are very little amount of players left

[brisk bridge]

I think the main issue with recs outing coven/coven outing last evil would be that the game straight up tells you who is coven, so it's a low-effort pillion move to out them

[brisk bridge]

That's something that their actions and game messages reveal

vs with recruit, you would get a similar feeling in vanilla if you got outed n1 as coven, so you out your coven for no reason

Similar levels of dick move

[pearl vine]

@sharp swallow has leveled up! (23 ➜ 24)

[lilac chasm]

Except what happens if the outing happens in late game and is possibly beneficial and possibly harmful to recruit?

What happens if its most likely beneficial?

With current gamethrowing ruleset, the fact that outing your coven d1 ""might"" be ""beneficial"" is enough to evade deserved bans. So I can understand the devs. However, they need to grow balls and call obvious gamethrowing, well, gamethrowing. And do not make phantom rules.

[wheat island]

if you can’t win games without outting your coven YOU have a skill issue, there is no counter play to having your entire team outted, you’re whining right now because you got suspended for doing it.

A martyrdom situation is just a dick move, you’re pissed because you got unlucky or were just generally bad. You’re complaining about other people whining but you’d be basically doing the same thing because you’re sore

👍

[honest badger]

because coven has no counterplay

coven cant chose to make it so the recruit doesn't know their roles

coven can chose to make it so a jester doesn't know their role

coven can't chose to make their member not be a recruit

[nova prairie]

People here are wilding, he's a dick but he didn't throw

[potent whale]

dick moves can get you banned

[serene slate]

stupid argument

dont reveal ur role to people that can out u then

if ur not ready for the risk

anyways this was the biggest dick move ive ever read

[potent whale]

it’s kinda like rec coven outing all of the coven in their last words

[serene slate]

which isnt bannalbe

[supple wing]

dont do it if you want friends

[potent whale]

(is cool)