#Apocalypse Rework

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west zephyr
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This Rework is aimed at fixing the issue of Apocalypse completely falling apart if Berserker dies.

There is a new mechanic, where if the Berserker is dead, the acolytes will transform into their killing role
Order of priority for transformation if the Berserker is dead is [Soul Collector > Plauguebearer > Baker]

Reaper (SC Killing Form)

Attack Basic
Defense Basic

Attributes

  • You appear innocent to the sheriff
  • Upon collecting 6 souls, transform into Death, horseman of the apocalypse.

Reap (♾️)

  • You deal a basic attack to your target
  • If you kill your target, you will receive two souls.
  • You do not gain souls passively

Notes: Soul progress carries over from SC, and you are no longer astral.

Blight (PB Killing Form)

Attack Basic
Defense Basic

Attributes

  • You appear innocent to the sheriff
  • You know who every infected player visits
  • When all enemies are infected, transform into Pestilence, horseman of the apocalypse.

Infect (♾️)

  • Deal a basic attack to your target.
  • Your target, and all their visitors, will become infected

Butler (Baker Killing Form)

Attack Powerful
Defense Basic

Attributes

  • You appear innocent to the sheriff
  • When three enemies have bread, transform into Famine, horseman of the apocalypse.

Feed(♾️)

  • You may give your target revealing, roleblocking, or poisoned bread

Poisoned Bread (♾️)

  • Deal a powerful attack to your target.
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strange girder
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Yeah this was similar to Alexia's post in the way that it is used, so I like it!

open kindle
west zephyr
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lmfaooooo

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We'll see

open kindle
west zephyr
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I think not

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It looks OP on paper

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Its much weaker than bers + sc though

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Or anyone + sc

open kindle
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Wait its just basic

west zephyr
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You are physically visiting, you can be caught by TI,

open kindle
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At least it cant bully neutrals

west zephyr
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basic attack

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yeah

open kindle
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And monarch

open kindle
teal wraith
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Suggestion: this doesn't apply if only 1 apoc spawned, so they can be silent in aa when they're solo

west zephyr
west zephyr
open kindle
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At least if sc does both at the same time 2 ppl wont be found at the same time

open kindle
west zephyr
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it got changed

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post launch

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it used to visit

open kindle
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Tbf we do need

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A change log

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Of all thosr things

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In a neat tidy document

brisk cairn
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curt made one

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dont think its finished

open kindle
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Exactly

crisp gyro
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Butler shouldn't be poisoned bread because poison is already a game mechanic and it might be confusing.

open kindle
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brisk cairn
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make poisoned bread give bread to whoever the target visits or one of their visitors

crisp gyro
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It makes transforming into famine bad

brisk cairn
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oh yeah

west zephyr
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I did consider

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Posion bread working like Jinx or smth

brisk cairn
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honestly i dont think apoc should need a consistent kpn due to their nukey nature

west zephyr
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But if you can accidentally give bread to someone you wanted to kill

brisk cairn
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bers is fine

west zephyr
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Its a problem

west zephyr
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Apoc TT

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Is pain if bers dies

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For everyone

brisk cairn
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ik that

crisp gyro
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If you need to kill and also give bread, giving bread should be a day ability that charges every two days that you kill.

Otherwise, it would mean giving bread to someone who DOES NOT need it.

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ez

brisk cairn
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yeah sure

dusk cipher
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@remote crown

remote crown
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me

strange girder
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Here's your PB attack lol.

remote crown
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i think for Blight should be a thing

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I Lile Blight a lot

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i don't like Butler, and Reaper is very strong

grizzled scaffold
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Butler feels too weak and reaper feels too strong

west zephyr
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Butler is prob the weakest as it’s going against what baker wants to do hence why it’s the last to transform

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Reaper is honestly not that strong

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It’s not astral only basic attack can be caught by TI can die to TP or rampage etc etc

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Can’t transform any faster

grizzled scaffold
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That makes sense

open kindle
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SC being first is crazy

west zephyr
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SC suffers the least from being slapped with a kill

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But it still suffers from it

open kindle
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Apoc is still a nuke faction

west zephyr
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Being astral and risk free to collect souls is so much better

open kindle
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Handicapping them in some situations

west zephyr
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Ya?

open kindle
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is better than doing what we do w/ coven

west zephyr
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Wdym?

open kindle
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Coven we try to make them peak

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performance

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with necro order perfect n shit

west zephyr
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Apoc rn is fine they just collapse if berserker dies

open kindle
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they arent nuking the moment they reach a certain role

open kindle
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However giving them too much power in any form could lead to some

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Nuking

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and a bad one at that

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Not as in they dont accomplish the nuking

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but that its not that good to play against

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Also blight should be first on the list no matter what me thinks

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Since its just PB + an attack which is fine

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Not that big of a benefit but not a complete loss

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a perfect middle ground

valid surge
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Not the direction I think apoc should go, but objectively good

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I do have some questions though

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  1. Can Baker multitask?
  2. Why does Baker have Powerful attack?
  3. Isn’t PB kinda a lot worse now given it can’t spread as fast
open kindle
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Baker cant

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i think

west zephyr
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Bers has powerful anyway

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But if anyone has better ideas for baker lmk

severe owl
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@wooden harness

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@bold wren

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i suggest this

strange girder
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I mean... not wrong.

dusk cipher
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Don't ping the tuba while he streams

strange girder
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Oh forgot Tuba was even streaming today.

dusk cipher
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Usually streams every Friday, Saturday, Sunday

rapid falconBOT
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@dusk cipher has leveled up! (24 ➜ 25)

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strange girder
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Yeah I remember the schedule I just completely forgot lmao

tranquil flame
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Yeah and then they can unban coroner from ATT

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I still think PB needs some sort of buff to compensate ppl not visiting n1