the worst labrat fix (15❌!!!)

[karmic dagger]

Better solution:
Make lab videos against rule 15. Lab rats are not allowed to share contents from lab to the public except for giving hints

[faint grail]

True

[lavish rivet]

Also true, but I already added it

add a non disclosure agreement in the application until the update is released(if it is legally possible)

And I personally(not the best solution logically) think that it is not enough making the floor higher. We need to lower the ceiling

[lavish rivet]

labrat fix, but labrats would hate it

[winter niche]

no

this sucks

like

just make the apps be more rigorous and make you actually have to find bugs

bam

it's fixed

[strange zinc]

2. Is basiclly how Gods of Gravity does it

[lavish rivet]

you are a labrat, that's why it sucks for you

[winter niche]

this won't fix anything

it'll only make it worse

I don't care about being a labrat

this would just make beta testing harder

[lavish rivet]

there are three options

and it is possible to use multiple of them

[winter niche]

none of them will help anything

the first will just make updates suck a lot more and have less development and be buggier and take longer

the 2nd will get more testers of less quality

overall nothing will actually be gained

[lavish rivet]

and third one?

[winter niche]

the 3rd is actually not too bad

but it's a bit easier on the reviewers to have a dedicated role you keep rather than removing the role from the person over and over, which would clog the forms a lot

apps would take longer

we would need more reviewers

and yeah

I think the current labrat system is flawed and needs work

but I don't think these are the ways to fix it

[flint heath]

bodbud might have just given a peak idea at the start of it

[steady holly]

the whole reason labrats exist is to find bugs that trass won’t

[lavish rivet]

i don't think that's the final solution, just a beginning

[flint heath]

also i think the amount of labrats works for stress testing the update

how much stupidity can you pull off before something breaks

[winter niche]

ok yeah but that would be SO hard to actually enforce, and it isn't really a problem

[lavish rivet]

Read every solution

[winter niche]

giving warnings and spoiler marks would fix accidentally spoiling people

and the updates arent "top secret" or whatever

[lavish rivet]

I agree, even though it is a minor problem it IS a problem

[winter niche]

yeah, if we just enforced putting spoiler warnings and marks, i think it would be better

[clear moth]

This sucks, respectively

[winter niche]

I think that for non-labrats having the option to know is good because it can build hype, like "oh the next update is X? I am excited, I want that!" and for people who don't wanna know it can be a suprise, like "Ooh! I wonder what the update is. I'll see when it comes out!"

[clear moth]

if you don't want to get the update leaks, then just don't watch the lab of videos I mean

[lavish rivet]

I am personally fine with spoilers, but not everyone

[wooden ibex]

Ok, getting labrat is mostly just luck. My advice is make your application ASAP the moment they open. For bad testers, there’s really no way to prove someone’s age to see if they’e lying or not. Labrat is meant to be available to a lot of people, because imagine. What would find more bugs, thousands of people testing out the new blocks and mechanics, or a few devs having to balance working on the update, fixing bugs, and testing the update.

[lavish rivet]

I agree with that, but I don't need help with the applications, because I just use my friends vr with labrat and report bugs from his account. But why not option 2 or 3?

[wooden ibex]

Okay. If everyone gets labrat, then what’s the point if even having it? If everyone will just use labrat when the labs come out, there’s no point in having a completely different version of the game out. For option two it would just mean releasing updates 1 week earlier, which just ends up making lower-quality, buggier updates.

[lavish rivet]

A lot of games do that

[karmic dagger]

"Really hard to enforce"
We have a heck ton of mods btw

[lean skiff]

wait what is the current problem with lab rats?

[karmic dagger]

Also preventing lab rats do lab videos can make them focus on their job, that is to find bugs and give feedback

[winter niche]

The thing is it'd be hard to trace back to game and discord accounts from social media, if they don't have roles like CC or if they don't use a persona that we can track.

[karmic dagger]

If a viewer finds it and they know that it's not allowed, they can always send a support ticket saying the problem

[winter niche]

yeah, that's pretty fair, but at the same time I am pretty sure they specifically encourage labrats and CC to make videos on lab to build hype and showcase it for normal players, and it's not like every single labrat makes a video, it's like at most like 1/8th of labrats

[karmic dagger]

Imo leave the hype part for star creators

They're trusted to Trass anyways

[winter niche]

They can't force take-down the video tho, and if usernames arent shown and they are on an alternate email/account that isn't a CC they can't track down back to the meta account or the discord account definitively.

and that means no punishment

meaning no reason to not make a video on it cuz it's not like you can get punished anyway

[wooden ibex]

all three “solutions” are flawed. The first one will definitely make updates release with more bugs, as without thousands of labrats to test the updates early, bugs will be harder to find during testing and before the release. The second option completely removes the point of labrat, basically the devs just publish the update 1 week early, so why not just remove labrat and just release updates 1 week early?? And as for the third option, that heavily reduces the amiunt of labrats, causing the same problem as the first one.

[winter niche]

that's exactly what I said. none of these "solutions" would all negatively impact the game, and make updates take longer and be worse

[little lagoon]

X-reacting solely for that last line because that’s just Not True

[winter niche]

there is action that needs to be taken, but none of these are what needs to happen.

[lavish rivet]

the second solution is literally used by minecraft, factorio, satisfactory, and a lot more. And also you didn't say a thing about third option and the conclusion

[wooden ibex]

read the final sentence.

[karmic dagger]

Well
It at least incentivates labrats to not do videos anyways

[karmic dagger]

Even if they could avoid it

[lavish rivet]

i meant the conclusion

yeah it makes it more difficult, but why not to do that?

Anyways I also hate it, but I am still here just because I am bored

the worst labrat fix (15❌!!!)