Enforce the rules / make a new rule (Read suggestion)

[near flame]

theres something called an exception yknow

[median cloak]

this is suggestion is divisive

[near flame]

true

[uncut hamlet]

And why is it divisive....

Because its about pride!

It all links back

[uncut hamlet]

Yeah and we shouldnt allow them

Why should 1 group get an exception, but not another?

[median cloak]

most suggestions are divisive, people dont all have the same view

[near flame]

whats the other group?

dont say religion

[uncut hamlet]

Literally any other group

[near flame]

name off a few then

[uncut hamlet]

Well you said "dont name religion"

Arguably the biggest point i could've said

You cant just say "dont name one of the biggest points"

[near flame]

well I have a counter

religion is belief

[uncut hamlet]

Which is?

[near flame]

pride isnt

[median cloak]

pride is much more reasonable to allow than religion imo

[near flame]

they arent the same thing

[uncut hamlet]

Does this make pride not divisive?

Also many people see religion as part of who they are

Part of their identity

[near flame]

it means they cant be compared

religion you get to choose

pride you dont

[uncut hamlet]

They are different, however they are both divisive

[near flame]

your made that way

[median cloak]

if someone was being harassed and if someone was being given just the side eye, who would you comfort?

[uncut hamlet]

Just because pride is divisive in a different way doesn't make it not divisive

[near flame]

ones divisive for the wrong reason

a reason that isnt rational

[uncut hamlet]

And..? Its still divisive

[near flame]

my god

[uncut hamlet]

It doesnt matter how its divisive, its still divisive

[near flame]

are you being intentionally dense?

ive already told you

[uncut hamlet]

And it still breaks the rules

Im just using logic

[near flame]

doesnt!

[uncut hamlet]

Does*

[near flame]

forgot to include something in your logic

the exception

[median cloak]

loniii can i get your opinion on this?

[uncut hamlet]

The person being harassed, obviously

What are you trying to infer?

[grim violet]

Ts is an ai overview

😭✌️

HOMER TIME TRAVEL

[uncut hamlet]

Just look on the list of controversial issues on wikipedia

[near flame]

"Against the rules"

lets look

a prime mod

due himself

and a handful of other mods

[median cloak]

omg i’m in one of those :D

who knows the context lol

[grim violet]

Loniii has been real quiet since this dropped

[near flame]

go on

mr "it against the rules"

look what youre up against

[uncut hamlet]

Sorry, I was muted for 60s

Let me read

[uncut hamlet]

Alright, so you understand the point of my suggestion right?

[near flame]

your saying its against the rule

[uncut hamlet]

Im trying to make it become against the rules, as part of divisive subjects

[near flame]

you keep saying it

[uncut hamlet]

Im saying it SHOULD be

[grim violet]

Im sorry Loniii but nobody agrees

[near flame]

according to you it already is

[median cloak]

wouldn’t a better version of this suggestion be:
allow people to converse all subjects, but stiffen up that it’s not okay to discriminate

[grim violet]

😭

[near flame]

this

[uncut hamlet]

Seems like 16 people here agree

[grim violet]

Son other than homophobes

[uncut hamlet]

Yeah, it should be breaking the rules

Its a divisive subject, and they all should be equally against the rules

[uncut hamlet]

Makign exceptions for pride because "its popular" or "its hated" or "its part of who you are" is just dumb

[near flame]

you said it was

[grim violet]

Its not as bad as the stuff already not allowed

[near flame]

stop changing your words

[uncut hamlet]

I do think it is, as I see it as a divisive topic

However officially is it?

No

Im trying to change that

[grim violet]

Stop fumbling

Did you just say it is but it isnt?

[median cloak]

inspector goole versus mr birling right here
-# (i’ve read too much inspector calls 💔)

[uncut hamlet]

Personal belief vs reality

[grim violet]

Holy braindead

[near flame]

exactly

[uncut hamlet]

Attacking me because you have no arguments against my actual suggestion anymore

Damn

[grim violet]

Monopoly man vs Benjamin Franklin ahh

[near flame]

the irony

[uncut hamlet]

...

[near flame]

what?

sorry your just saying the same thing

[grim violet]

Barnacle vs a star wars war jet

[near flame]

more you repeat yourself the worse you look

[grim violet]

🪤

[uncut hamlet]

Are yall gonna say anything about the suggestion?

[median cloak]

did you just start attacking them because you’ve ran out of arguments 💔

[median cloak]

what do you think we’ve been doing 💔 😭

[uncut hamlet]

https://discord.com/channels/1197017602292207666/1508501446432133442

Btw, id like to bump this

[near flame]

we did

my god

[grim violet]

Would you like to see a black lives matter update in yeeps

?

[uncut hamlet]

I debunked everything you said against the suggestion

[median cloak]

btw i’d like to bump this

[uncut hamlet]

Personally, not really, as I dont want real life events in yeeps

[near flame]

BBold claims

[grim violet]

But technically its on the same level as lgbtq

[near flame]

correct

[uncut hamlet]

You said it isnt divisive, I told you why it is, then you just went posting images saying that pride isnt against the rules?

[uncut hamlet]

And i dont want to see an update for it ingame...?

What are you tryna say

[near flame]

according to you you're using logic

[uncut hamlet]

I mean you haven't proved the logic wrong

[near flame]

yet you practically ignored my logical counter

[uncut hamlet]

All you said is "dont say religion" which shows you cant counteract it

[grim violet]

Im just glad that suggestions can be added so we might get a pride update if it gets a lot of attention by the devs

[median cloak]

nono i see where loniii’s coming from here

[near flame]

my god

get your memory checked

[grim violet]

Also no politics

[near flame]

pretty sure I said it twice

[uncut hamlet]

You cant come to debate then just say "yeah you cant say this however"

[near flame]

here

[uncut hamlet]

And i said, theyre both divisive

[grim violet]

Top ten braindead(some will scare you so bad you die)

[uncut hamlet]

No matter how they are divisive, they are divisive

You saying that ADMITTED pride is divisive

And divisive topics... should be against the rules

[near flame]

and here!

[uncut hamlet]

Digging your own grave, lol

[near flame]

I really did say it twice!

[grim violet]

Lgbtq shouldn't be against the rules because its not that bad

[near flame]

???

[uncut hamlet]

Read

[near flame]

lets use some logic

which according to you, youre already using

[uncut hamlet]

All ive used is logic

By going off what the rules say

[near flame]

actually

would you say

racism is divisive?

[median cloak]

ngl, if i wasnt biased towards pride, i’d probably agree with loniii. if it was a spectrum i’m about:
(bad suggestion) - - - - - - - 0 - - (yes suggestion)

[uncut hamlet]

Well, even though it shouldnt be, things like race can cause arguments

[merry bramble]

hey bluddy duddys why we arguing 🤣 😂 🤣 😂

[uncut hamlet]

Albeit, less then pride

[uncut hamlet]

Just read the messages lol

Im tryna say pride should come against the rules as its a divisive topic

They disagree

[grim violet]

Theyre arguing that pride is bad even though mods and devs have confirmed they won't ban anyone for it 😭😭

[uncut hamlet]

Never said "its bad"

[merry bramble]

so it’s your basic lgbt member vs non lgbt community member argument

[uncut hamlet]

Im saying it should come against the rules, as a divisive topic

[merry bramble]

expected

[uncut hamlet]

Yeah

[near flame]

you said it yourself

should it be divisive?

[uncut hamlet]

I said it shouldn't be, but it IS divisive

[merry bramble]

Hold on

[paper meteor]

???

[uncut hamlet]

That doesnt change the fact its a divisive topic

[merry bramble]

Can I ask why we are talking about racism

[near flame]

well guess what

[merry bramble]

Where did this come from

[near flame]

thats 1:1 to pride

[uncut hamlet]

Theyre using it as a comparison to lgbt

[merry bramble]

Bro

What

[grim violet]

You got that from Wikipedia and an Ai overview stop talking sonion because I am crine

[uncut hamlet]

Saying since racism shouldn't be divisive, pride shouldnt be and therefore be allowed

[merry bramble]

Thats disrespectful

[near flame]

it shouldn't be divisive

and counting it as divisive only makes it worse

[uncut hamlet]

What these people dont realise, is that its not about if it should or shouldnt be divisive

It IS divisive

No matter if it should or shouldnt be

[grim violet]

Where's your proof?

[merry bramble]

every argument in any suggestion related to pride is just a pride member vs a non pride member

that’s literally it

It’s just a 2 hour long stupid battle

[uncut hamlet]

Every source ive found online

Literally wikipedia

Puts it under

[boreal cloak]

AI summary btw

[uncut hamlet]

The controversial topics

[near flame]

address this

[uncut hamlet]

Category

[grim violet]

Wikipedia is false most of the time

[uncut hamlet]

How?

It is divisive

[near flame]

think harder

[uncut hamlet]

This post... proves its divisive

[near flame]

use that logic

[uncut hamlet]

We are debating

On the topic

Of pride

[boreal cloak]

You calling it divisive dosent make things easier dawg

[grim violet]

@uncut hamlet

[merry bramble]

wait so guys

lemme ask something rq

what does divise mean

a subject not everyone is affiliated right

[uncut hamlet]

So 2 sources i found and you are just gonna deny both of them? I can find more if you want

[merry bramble]

Is everyone on the planet

affiliated with pride

[uncut hamlet]

Controversial topic that causes debate/arguments

[merry bramble]

certainly not right

[grim violet]

Ai and a platform that lies most of the time?

Give me a break

[merry bramble]

guys

if pride isn’t divisive

why are we having a debate about it

[boreal cloak]

Loniii is know for using AI

[uncut hamlet]

Legit

This post is proving my claims

[merry bramble]

You guys are proving his point

which is SUPER funny

[uncut hamlet]

I can find more sources... if you really want

[median cloak]

can we stop for a moment

consider loniii’s point of view

equality

[uncut hamlet]

Yup

I just don't want any controversial topics to be suggested to the game

All divisive subjects should be restricted

[uncut hamlet]

No matter how unjust the divisiveness is

[merry bramble]

Legit divise means debated/something that causes arguments

[grim violet]

Sorry I got muted for some reason

[merry bramble]

and you are arguing about it rn

[grim violet]

I was just saying that his sources aren't trustworthy

[uncut hamlet]

I can find more sourced

Sources

Theres tons

[grim violet]

Do it

Do 20

Of them

Rn

[boreal cloak]

You keep saying that yet you dont do it

Dude loniii just tell us your against pride atp

[merry bramble]

pride IS divise it just gets a free pass because people would get angry if it wasn’t allowed for a topic

[uncut hamlet]

K

[merry bramble]

end of discussion

[paper meteor]

do you mean divisive?

divise isnt a word

[merry bramble]

I’m trying

[near flame]

wait i think that is a word

like

divise a plan

[paper meteor]

device is

[near flame]

or is thst a different word

[paper meteor]

idk

[merry bramble]

yes I meant divisive

[grim violet]

Guys

Are we fr

[merry bramble]

why is this actually so funny

🥹

[grim violet]

Im laughing internally

[uncut hamlet]

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-people-react-negatively-to-the-rainbow-pride-flag-and-how-do-supporters-use-it-to-promote-understanding-and-acceptance

Alright, here is quite a few reasons to why it is divisive

Probably not the best source I could find, but it gives multiple reasons why people will debate and argue about it

[paper meteor]

what is quora

[uncut hamlet]

I think its like a website to ask questions and get answers and stuff, idrk

I just searched up "reasons pride is divisive"

And this had like 8 reasons

Which i read through

[near flame]

quora?

really?

[uncut hamlet]

Yeah

Read the points

And tell me, theyre invalid

[near flame]

entirely user based btw

[uncut hamlet]

With good details to why

[uncut hamlet]

Alright, so read the points

And tell me

That theyre wrong

With details why

https://www.christian.org.uk/news/ci-parliament-wrong-hoist-divisive-rainbow-flag/

This is an article about how it was divisive to have the flag over parliament

Even though it's a Christian website, it shows that it sparked debate

And argument

[grim violet]

[uncut hamlet]

Damn its so silent now

[near flame]

"Christan.org "

[near flame]

really?

really?

like

oh my god man

[merry bramble]

Hey I’d like to carry this over from the pride update suggestion to here, just a bit of a statement I had :p

even tho most of you probably would’ve already seen it

[uncut hamlet]

Did you read it, at all

This posts its divisive, Christians themselves called it divisive

Like dude 😭

[near flame]

I WONDER WHY

[uncut hamlet]

Clearly cant say anything against it...

[uncut hamlet]

So you admit, its divisive?
(Again)

[near flame]

not that

my god

"Christans themselvescalled it divisive"

[uncut hamlet]

You already admitted it was divisive earlier...

[near flame]

why would they do that

I wonder

[uncut hamlet]

They are clearly... opposing what happened

With the pride flags on parliament

[near flame]

maybe their book speaks against homosexuality?

[uncut hamlet]

And that makes it...

Divisive!

[near flame]

@ivory bronze

[uncut hamlet]

Ok... so......?

If they disagree with it (not all of them, but many do)

That by nature makes it divisive

[near flame]

please will you

[uncut hamlet]

Stop pinging this guy and prove me wrong

[near flame]

im trying tk get an actual Christian in here

[grim violet]

Lonii please refrain from the thread

[uncut hamlet]

Im debating with you, not them

[uncut hamlet]

Not all Christians.... are the same

[near flame]

if you wanna talk about religion so badly

[uncut hamlet]

You know that?

Many Christians... accept lgbtq

[near flame]

feel like i should get someone more experienced on a topic

[uncut hamlet]

While many... see it as a sin

[grim violet]

?rules

[uncut hamlet]

Having 1 Christian to speak doesn't mean they speak for all

[grim violet]

Guys how do I find the rules?

[uncut hamlet]

Saying pride isnt divisive is just wrong

[near flame]

well im no Christian

so whu not get someone who atleast knows the material in full?

[uncut hamlet]

Because if they personally see lgbtq as fine, that doesn't speak for all

And also... doesnt prove it to be undivisive

[near flame]

how about you actually talk with the person rather than deny them joining?

[grim violet]

Im afraid to ping Bob again so I must say

Shut up please and know that it won't be a rule

[uncut hamlet]

They can join, but i dont want you to keep deflecting

[uncut hamlet]

Did you read this? At all?

State some reasons that these points are wrong

[near flame]

ive explained everything you've already thrown at me

you loop and loop

im giving you something new

[uncut hamlet]

.... no

I asked you to explain why those points are wrong

You just said

"Its quora"

And didnt really explain anything...?

[boreal cloak]

I hope pride does get added

Would be amazing

[near flame]

do you know what even goes on in quora

[uncut hamlet]

They can be personal views of that person, which I agree with, but i want to see WHY you disagree with those points

Why those points dont make it divisive

If you cant really respond.. what does that show?

[near flame]

im not going to do anything else until borapaws speaks his part

[uncut hamlet]

...

So you cant respond?

[near flame]

ive got other things to do as of now

[uncut hamlet]

No wonder...

[boreal cloak]

I hope pride gets added with space as a mini drop of sm

Would be nice

[uncut hamlet]

Bump

[paper meteor]

didnt you just bring up religion as a example on how you can be respectful but it still being divisive

im confused here

[uncut hamlet]

In that conversation, if we was all respectful it wouldve been just a debate

We wouldn't have been arguing

Thats what I meant

It will always spark arguments in general as a whole however

[paper meteor]

thats why mods should take action against them

[uncut hamlet]

Clearly was broken when I was being accuses of being a homophobe

[boreal cloak]

Its been 15 min no need to say bump😭

[uncut hamlet]

Btw I did nothing but be respectful

[boreal cloak]

Its either, you support pride, or yah dont

[uncut hamlet]

Its more like

Actively support
Neutrality
Dont support
Hatred

I sit in the 2nd category

[boreal cloak]

Sure

[paper meteor]

altough i do feel as we get some benefits

not gonna name any names but ive seen bad insults that prob arent joking being thrown around by my side and havent been taken action on

[uncut hamlet]

Trust me, I definitely know those people

[near flame]

yaoi or Yuri guys

[visual solar]

Both are good

[timid harness]

I’d say pride gets a pass because of the prejudice against them

[visual solar]

The main confusion I have is where they say homophobia and transphobia is bad, yet won’t add stuff that are pride

[near flame]

exactly bro

[grim violet]

Yuri

[lofty nexus]

yaoi

[normal ivy]

Yaoi (i showed my friend a pic of men kissing and she said i need help)

[near flame]

Well she's a loser

[north sleet]

They call people bigots a lot too

[plucky basalt]

yup

[north sleet]

Another thing I saw and agree with about not wanting to add pride to Yeeps, is that some parents just arent ready to have that talk with their kid yet

But I think the pronouns thing axolotl sent is an amazing suggestion

I think it would be too minor to cause arguments while still respecting people’s identity

[near flame]

why do parents gotta talk to kids about pride based stuff but straight relationships are let off scot free

[plucky basalt]

:|

[median dagger]

a question that shall never receive an answer

[north sleet]

I’m thinking cus it’s kinda valid but let me type the answers

[timid harness]

I would guess it’s because straight relationships are seen as normal, and LGBT relationships are considered weird

[near flame]

well you've got the right answer

[median dagger]

in other words, homophobia

[near flame]

I mean the word for it is legit queen

*queer

which means something along the lines of different

but doesnt make them any different

[timid harness]

I’m fairly uneducated when it comes to pride, I don’t know what that means

[north sleet]

1. The family could be Christian or other religions that prohibit boy/boy and girl/girl relationships and straight relationships are allowed
2. The child may just be too young to even fully understand relationships of any kind

[timid harness]

Also if it wasn’t clear, I’m not saying I agree with this

[near flame]

1st one doesnt mean they should gatekeep the existence of lgbtq identities

[north sleet]

I think what kirbo is trying to say is that straight relationships are more accepted in society than lgbtq ones, so yes, homophobia

[near flame]

and the 2nd only occurs at like

a really young age

[plucky basalt]

oh no
a parent parenting a kid how they wanna parent them

lmao

-# /j

[median dagger]

2 is dumb because then like
they can see heterosexual relationships without issue
but seeing anything pride is somehow different?
and I don't think I need to explain why the 1st one is a bad reason

[near flame]

dont forget you dont choose what you are

or who youre attracted to

[median dagger]

then those parents could just not let their kid play yeeps

[plucky basalt]

its a joke...

[north sleet]

Not gatekeep but parents might not want their children to even have thoughts of that/ not introducing them to it

[median dagger]

but some people do mean that

[plucky basalt]

but I put /j

:(

[near flame]

the /j too small he couldn't see it

[median dagger]

true

[median dagger]

I have very good eyesight
I swear

[near flame]

THAYS GATEKEEPING 😭

[plucky basalt]

also random info that I find funny
my mom was incredibly sad I didnt turn out gay lol

[median dagger]

I don't think restricting access to knowledge that isn't inherently inappropriate is at all okay
like I understand not telling them about the birds and the bees
but they can know that gay people exist, same as straight people

[north sleet]

Then yes, if they followed a religion that didn’t allow it, then parents would gatekeep lgbtq from their children

[median dagger]

yeah but you see
that's not a good thing to do

[north sleet]

But is it really if the religion they follow doesn’t allow it?

[median dagger]

religions that don't eat pork don't tell their kids that pigs don't exist

[north sleet]

That’s fair

In a perfect world parents would acknowledge it without endorsing it if their religion didn’t allow it

My argument had a lot of holes in it

[tidal seal]

“Oh but everyone who disagrees with adding a pride update is homophobic”

[near flame]

you're obnoxious

[tidal seal]

Ok

That’s just what I’ve been seeing

[timid harness]

Don’t engage, he’s just doing it for attention

[tidal seal]

Got it

[north sleet]

I dont see what they would add in a pride update though

I guess just cosmetics

Like with the banner you can make whatever pride flag you want already

[plucky basalt]

yup

in a nutshell

[north sleet]

Why does everyone hate you?😭

[tidal seal]

They don’t like opinions

[north sleet]

I’ve been in two pride threads and they’re all just like “don’t talk to him”

[tidal seal]

Does that make me look tuff and mysterious or do I look like a chud

[plucky basalt]

yes

[north sleet]

Tuff and mysterious 110%

[tidal seal]

Oh yeah

I’m so cool

[median dagger]

a lot of people who say that
js use it as a shield to say homophobic things

[tidal seal]

Ok

[north sleet]

But a lot also use it when a person just doesn’t agree with their pride suggestion

[median dagger]

not really

I don't see people saying "it's just my opinion" when suggesting pride content very often

but I do see it when people are genuinely being hateful very often

[north sleet]

Oh wait I worded it wrong

[median dagger]

not saying that EMG is necessarily a hateful person
since I don't know them
but just saying "it's my opinion" is usually just someone's excuse to say something that they cannot justify

[north sleet]

I meant that some people just use the “you’re homophobic” card when people don’t agree with their pride suggestion

[paper meteor]

no but not me

so im the besrt

[median dagger]

that does happen more than it should

[paper meteor]

who calls people homophobic when they dont agree with the suggestion

i need to peep in

and know

[plucky basalt]

at least 2 people

[paper meteor]

who

[plucky basalt]

dino seal guy

and someone else forgot their name

[north sleet]

-# cough cough aviandinosaur

[plucky basalt]

thats dino seal guy

[silent wolf]

lucky number 27

[proud sequoia]

loniii is a poet bro

[paper meteor]

no he isnt bro

[proud sequoia]

why do you think that?