Enforce the rules / make a new rule (Read suggestion)

[uncut hamlet]

There is and always will be huge debates about certain topics and stuff, one of those being pride suggestions. In one of the rules it says "NO DIVISIVE SUBJECTS" however, one of the most divisive subjects, pride, gets a free pass?

The main issue with this is that it will always cause arguments, theres no stopping it at all as it is an undeniably controversial topic.

Another issue I have is that one of the reasons people may disagree with this suggestion, Religion, is a banned topic. Im not saying unban religion, but when one of the reasons people may disagree is banned, thats just kinda stupid, especially stupid that another very controversial topic (pride) is allowed. Many people won't even be able to voice why they disagree due to it being banned.

I dont hate pride, and im not homophobic at all, but I think that the rules need to be properly enforced, pride is an undeniably divisive subject, so why does it get a free pass?

Now, in my opinion, its fine to talk about things like pride in regular chat, however when suggesting topics like these to the game, that will undeniably cause arguments
as they are very controversial topics, it really shouldn't be allowed. Suggestions are things that will affect everyone in Yeeps. Subjects that can cause any controversy shouldnt be a subject thats up for addition to Yeeps.

In my opinion a good way to fix this is to strictly prohibit all and any divisive subjects such as pride, religion etc from SUGGESTIONS, simply for the fact that arguments will never ever stop on topics like these.

If this rule is broken, there should be HARSH consequences. This will make it sizzle out and these topics over time will not be suggested.

Yes people may be mad, and you can disagree with what I say entirely, but if you say pride isnt a divisive topic, thats just incorrect.

One of the main reasons those suggestions are even so alive, is constant arguments pushing it up, not even about the suggestion itself.

This is my opinion, and you can disagree all you want. As I said earlier, im not homophobic or anything, so please don't take it that way!

Thanks for reading (if you did lol)

[plucky basalt]

as trader said

it'll cause a chain reaction once one is added

with others wanting representation

[median dagger]

I've talked about this a lot, but pride is fundamentally different from a lot of other divisive topics
it has:

1. relevance because yeeps is a social game (and identity is a social thing)
2. nothing to do with most other beliefs itself

I'll go find the rest of my yapping on it rq, but tl;dr representation via gender identity (and sexuality for some) is important to a lot of people, and pretty important socially (especially gender identity)
tbf, I would LIKE them to add overarching lgbtq+ stuff, but I mostly want #1438716354323677306

the rest is mostly from here down
https://discordapp.com/channels/1197017602292207666/1508128460873273484/1508200366800506970

[uncut hamlet]

In this case, subjects like religion should not be banned due to religion also being a large part of identity, many people see their religion as a big part of who they are. (There are probably other examples, aswell)

Pride itself doesn't have anything to do with other beliefs but it will still cause clashes with those other beliefs, making it a divisive subject overall.

[plucky basalt]

if I remember, a lotta people say religion is also a very social thing

[median dagger]

but then religion falls under the second part, which is inherently disagreeing with other religions

yes you can respect others while disagreeing with them

but you do still disagree with them

[paper meteor]

no bro

[paper meteor]

this will cause way more outrage

[median dagger]

also that

people (me included) were NOT happy when pride posts were being closed

[uncut hamlet]

Aswell, pride can be divisive in many other ways, from how pride is shown and branded and based on how people see that.

Or the fact that some people will see pride in a more political way

It will always be a very controversial topic, and things like that shouldnt be allowed to be suggested

As, it leads to the suggestions most of the time just being arguments and accusations

[paper meteor]

pride will not always be a controvisal topic

one day bro

[uncut hamlet]

Im sure that we all know, pride is an undeniably divisive subject

[paper meteor]

im telling you

[uncut hamlet]

Always will be

[paper meteor]

pointing acusations with the people who have a big red arrow pointing at them

[uncut hamlet]

Well, I wouldnt know for sure, but based on the past and what seemingly is being seen in the present, it will likely remain divisive for a while

Who knows what could happen in like 1000 years

But we won't exist by then, so it doesnt matter anyway

[paper meteor]

???

yes we WILL

[uncut hamlet]

Humans will. We wont

We will be long dead

[paper meteor]

o

yeah

[uncut hamlet]

We shouldnt make decisions based on what the future could hold

[median dagger]

tbf, half the problem is people who say "well I like pride, but it's too divisive and people argue about it, so I'm gonna argue about why it shouldn't be in game"
if people like that would js not argue, there would be so many less arguments
and what's insane to me is that these people basically make the arguments they're so worried about

-# arguably even you're doing that rn

[uncut hamlet]

Well, you gotta take into account

Many people ingame wont even know about the pride suggestions, and we dont know how updates like this can end up

Being worried about it being too divisive and not wanting it in yeeps is a very valid concern, we dont know how every single person will react

The majority of players dont have discord, they wont be able to voice their opinions on topics like these

[paper meteor]

so what if most like the pride update

[uncut hamlet]

And what if they dont

Its a risky gamble

[paper meteor]

thats fine

[uncut hamlet]

And its not really worth it

You can just stay on the neutral track its already on

[paper meteor]

if they say homophobic stuff u get banned

[uncut hamlet]

And not deal with any positive or negative consequences

[median dagger]

I mean, I can see that
but so, so many people just say "look how many arguments this caused, it should be closed forever" when 80% of the people arguing are arguing because the topic is too argumentative for the server

[uncut hamlet]

Arguing for that reason is very valid

Because they arent really wrong

Are they?

[plucky basalt]

that day isnt gonnaa be soon

[median dagger]

but those same people get their evidence from similar people saying the same thing and being the instigators in all of the arguments

[plucky basalt]

wait yall already said that I think

[uncut hamlet]

Anyone who disagrees, causes an argument

Lets be real

[plucky basalt]

in the pride suggestions mostly yea

[uncut hamlet]

Every time someone disagrees in one of those posts, it most likely leads to arguments

Even if people didnt argue about it being too argumentative, arguments would still be very common as literally anyone who disagrees basically gets argued with

So much infact, they had to pin a message saying its ok to disagree with pride suggestions

[median dagger]

I mean, yeah
mostly because a lot of people who don't like the posts don't really have a point

[plucky basalt]

main one I've seen is uh

that they dont want it

[median dagger]

the BEST point is that it's too divisive
but then there's stuff that's like "well if we get pride, we need religion"

[plucky basalt]

they wanna stay nuetral

[uncut hamlet]

Honestly, if you just don't want these topics in Yeeps. Thats fine

Aslong as you are respectful

If someone just says they don't want pride in yeeps, theres nothing wrong with that

[plucky basalt]

-# but then the homophobic accusations go out

[uncut hamlet]

Yup

Alot of people think its only the people who disagree who causes arguments

Alot of the time, people say why they disagree, then a supporter of the pride suggestions argues with them

[plucky basalt]

iirc I've been called homophobic like 8 times in this server lol

[uncut hamlet]

Like a certain someone

Cough cough

[median dagger]

also a lot of the time, people literally js say homophobic things 😭

[uncut hamlet]

Fungus

[uncut hamlet]

Thats true

[median dagger]

but I don't think instantly calling everyone homophobic is the solution

[uncut hamlet]

But alot of people will accuse innocent people of just being homophobic for disagreeing

[uncut hamlet]

Which leads to more arguments

This is why we dont give a specific subject a free pass

Its proven that it will cause controversy, it is divisive and there is countless proof

By just looking in the pride suggestions themselves

[plucky basalt]

and like how almost everyone says

different groups would see pride got representation, and want their own representation

[uncut hamlet]

True

We cant just let pride go through, then deny all others

Other groups may see that as genuinely like, kinda offensive

[plucky basalt]

and ngl, one of the main reasons being "pride was hated on" doesnt work, cause you still got the Jewish religion

[uncut hamlet]

Which although I disagree with that, it will happen

[uncut hamlet]

Yea

[median dagger]

I've already talked about a lot of this

[uncut hamlet]

Alot of people say pride and stuff went through so much more then religious people have

And stuff

[tacit solstice]

"divisive subjects" and it's literally inclusivity

[uncut hamlet]

Which firstly, is just rude

[plucky basalt]

then include religion

[uncut hamlet]

And secondly, its not true at all

[plucky basalt]

dont single those people out

[tacit solstice]

LITERALLY just trying to ban pride in suggestions

[median dagger]

*in suggestions

[uncut hamlet]

Yes, in suggestions

Its fine for general chat

[plucky basalt]

whyd you word it like that lol

[uncut hamlet]

Controversial topics shouldnt be in suggestions at all

And they need harsh punishment

If new ones get made

Imo

Ofcourse, this would be after the rule is disclosed

So people know

[tacit solstice]

harsh punishment.. for wanting inclusion?

[plucky basalt]

harsh punishment, for breaking the rules

[tacit solstice]

and the rule is no wanting inclusion?

[uncut hamlet]

No, for suggesting a divisive topic. This stands for all divisive topics

[plucky basalt]

the rule is not picking sides

and sttaying nuetral

cause dont forget

both pride AND religion would be banned

[uncut hamlet]

Suggesting a topic that is highly divisive (as seen in the pride suggestions themselves) is asking for arguments

[uncut hamlet]

Just read the full suggestion, and youll get my idea

[plucky basalt]

so then you think that not wanting to stay nuetral is going against pride?

thats stupid

[tacit solstice]

i agree with religious suggestions

everyone should be able to express what they believe

[plucky basalt]

but not everywhere

some places

are better left alone from that stuff

[uncut hamlet]

Expressing your beliefs in forums that are suggesting additions to the game will cause arguments, as divisive subjects naturally start arguments

[median dagger]

reasons why pride is fundamentally different from religion
and furthermore, it's not really possible to cover all religion

[plucky basalt]

key word "divisive"

[tacit solstice]

protecting both homophobes AND religious discriminators

[plucky basalt]

and what're you gonna do with pride?

when they add more

and more

and more

same idea

[uncut hamlet]

Its not really fully about comparing them. They're both divisive in different ways

Very divisive

[plucky basalt]

orrr

you STILL ban both of those people

[uncut hamlet]

Although religion is one main comparison that can be made, as a direct argument against pride is religion

And religion, is a banned subject

[tacit solstice]

and instead of banning homophobes, we punish the people of the LGBTQIA+ community

[plucky basalt]

no

you guys can still represent yourself

in discord
with banners

all that

[tacit solstice]

EXACTLY what that'd do

[median dagger]

really just one flag
pretty sure the rainbow covers most of lgbtq+ stuff
it's not like very specific groups will say "but I need X or Y specific flag" very often
I think people are generally happy with one or two main ones

[tacit solstice]

no

not at all'

[median dagger]

main ones as in common ones

but idrk about most flag stuff

[plucky basalt]

but then the uncommon ones would want representation

[plucky basalt]

isnt that outdated?

[uncut hamlet]

We arent punishing the lgbtq community, we are keeping them on an equal ground to other divisive subjects IN SUGGESTIONS

[tacit solstice]

the pic above represents ALL of it

[median dagger]

I just find that unlikely

[tacit solstice]

by punishing them

[uncut hamlet]

All other divisive subjects are not allowed, pride should be included

[plucky basalt]

that ones already outdated iirc

lmao

[uncut hamlet]

They shouldnt get a "free pass" because of people being mad that pride is removed

[tacit solstice]

it's not

[plucky basalt]

now it has an idian feather or somethin on it

[uncut hamlet]

Its not about pride, but more about the controversy it undeniably causes

[median dagger]

how often do you see stuff like "us demiboys aren't getting representation enough"

[uncut hamlet]

(As seen in all pride suggestions)

[plucky basalt]

I didnt think pride would get in suggestions cause of rule 1

look where we are now lol

[tacit solstice]

you mean the two-spirit flag?

[plucky basalt]

and now its religion too

and they cant just close it

[uncut hamlet]

Also, as pyro said, if we add and allow pride suggestions. Other groups will also want suggestions, them being fully not allowed may being taken badly or in a negative way

[tacit solstice]

this one?

[plucky basalt]

not without a LOTTA backlash from all the people who are religious

[tacit solstice]

ur right

[plucky basalt]

yea that ones the newest right?

[tacit solstice]

yeah ur right

mb

[uncut hamlet]

We cant just give one group a free pass

[tacit solstice]

or

we punish bigots instead of punishing the groups

[plucky basalt]

thats taking a side

which Yeeps didnt want to do

[tacit solstice]

yeah, of not liking bigotry

?rule 1

[plucky basalt]

?rule1

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[plucky basalt]

I gotchu

[uncut hamlet]

If we allow for example, all divisive topics, there would be so many arguments and false accusations it would get out of hand

[tacit solstice]

#⚖️・rules

[median dagger]

I mean, I don't think most people care about pride too much
there's the vocal people for it, and the vocal ones against it
but then there's just people who don't care what gets added

[uncut hamlet]

Its the better idea to not allow them all

[tacit solstice]

?rule 3

[plucky basalt]

?rule3

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[plucky basalt]

get rid of the space

[uncut hamlet]

Theres already been so many falsely accused people of being homophobic

[tacit solstice]

notice how it says EVERYONE

[uncut hamlet]

Which is honestly, just horrible and sad

[tacit solstice]

keyword?

[plucky basalt]

then respect religious people

[tacit solstice]

NO discrimination

[plucky basalt]

allow them to make suggestions

[tacit solstice]

i do

[median dagger]

I've found the answer (yes that means I'm stealing it)
"why do lgbtq+ people want special treatment"
because we get more hate than others, simply put

[tacit solstice]

i just said

[plucky basalt]

jewish people?

ww2...

[uncut hamlet]

This is a stupid argument, and also not entirely true

[plucky basalt]

yet they dont get NEARLY the same amount as yall

[median dagger]

who else was hated in ww2?

[uncut hamlet]

Compsring how hated a group is is stupid

[plucky basalt]

yall yea

[tacit solstice]

not rly

[plucky basalt]

but MOSTLY Jewish people

[uncut hamlet]

This group gets a free pass because they was more hated then that group!

[plucky basalt]

sounds spoiled

-# no offense

[median dagger]

I mean, there's more to it

[tacit solstice]

no, agsin

[plucky basalt]

but just sounds like your jealous

[uncut hamlet]

But then, to the people who genuinely disagree with these ideas, they cant do nothing

[tacit solstice]

EVERY group (aside from polotics) should get a free pass

[paper meteor]

try not to make everything we say sound bad, level IMPOSSIBLE

[plucky basalt]

no

no group

[plucky basalt]

yall do the same

[uncut hamlet]

And turn suggestions into an argument hub

[plucky basalt]

dont act like yalldont

[tacit solstice]

ALL goroup

[uncut hamlet]

Instead of actually being suggestions

[plucky basalt]

why

[paper meteor]

YES we do'

[median dagger]

nvm I didn't understand the point, so I can't hope to explain it myself

[tacit solstice]

OR we could punish the bigots

[plucky basalt]

not everyone needs representation
not every
single
damn thing
needs to be represented

some things

can be good

without

representation

[brittle zealot]

Fr

[uncut hamlet]

A - Allowing all these groups would cause so so many arguments

B - People ingame who disagree with such things really don't get a choice

C - False accusations would go out of hand

[plucky basalt]

representation doesnt have to be EVERYWHRERE

SOME THINGS

can be left alone

and still be perfect

[uncut hamlet]

3 reasons we shouldnt allow divisive topics

Including pride

[brittle zealot]

Yes

[tacit solstice]

"no no NO DONT punish bigots!!!! punish the people who want representation!!!!" "WHY are you calling me a bigot??????? im NOT a bigot"

[plucky basalt]

equality?

the hell you mena

[tacit solstice]

sry

[uncut hamlet]

When we make suggestions on adding features to the game, adding things people actively will disagree with will just cause absolute chaos

[gritty sentinel]

Representation is how you tell your players "this is a safe space for the LGBTQ community"

Religious beliefs are very different from pride for multiple reasons

[tacit solstice]

representation

[brittle zealot]

He never called you that

[plucky basalt]

we dont get equality

[paper meteor]

what people have we made false acusations against

[plucky basalt]

you

get more than us

[plucky basalt]

me

[uncut hamlet]

Many people get called homophobic

[paper meteor]

i havent

[tacit solstice]

no i'm mocking the people in this thread

[uncut hamlet]

Also people like fungus, accuse everyone of stuff

[median dagger]

nvm again, the point makes sense here
I don't see jewish people being banned from using bathrooms
this is an ongoing issue in the real world, and in places a large portion of yeeps players live in
and away from the real world, unlike religion, pride stuff still makes sense in yeeps
showing support for minorities is a good thing, and punishing us because "some people might not like it" is stupid
I don't like space biome, should trass have decided not to do it?

[plucky basalt]

but people HAVE

[brittle zealot]

In certain suggestions u say one thing against them they automatically accuse you of being homophobic or something

[plucky basalt]

iirc 8 damn times

and I got muted for it like twice I think

[uncut hamlet]

Truth nuke

[paper meteor]

the one person ive made a acusation against recently have been like albie

[uncut hamlet]

People in the pride suggestions don't know what homophobia is

They think disagreeing with pride is homophobia

[plucky basalt]

or they take it as a normal word

[uncut hamlet]

😭

[plucky basalt]

and not as actually a really bad thing

[tacit solstice]

maybe because the thing you say is literally "i don't want to fight bigotry, i think kids shouldn't learn about minority groups because they're gonna become a minority and I DONT WANT THAT 😠"

[median dagger]

that's more of a few people than any sort of issue with pride as a whole tbf
and I can't blame them, with some people INTENT on being genuinely homophobic / transphobic in those suggestions, to the point of returning to find ANY reason to hate them

[uncut hamlet]

This suggestion is literally proving why pride is a divisive subject and shouldnt be added

Although, this is more respectful then many other times

Still is proving one of my points

[brittle zealot]

I’ve never once aside that this is a false accusation right here

[plucky basalt]

doesnt justify calling innocent people homophobic

[gritty sentinel]

Pride suggestions are mostly about establishing a safe space, not about "special treatment" or "a free pass"

[plucky basalt]

does it?

no

[median dagger]

I know that you know what I said

[median dagger]

I didn't say it was justified, I said I can't blame them

[plucky basalt]

than almost every other time

[plucky basalt]

same idea

[brittle zealot]

I’m kinda getting confused you threw a ton of big words at me lol

[median dagger]

as in I understand why they do it

[plucky basalt]

so its ok for them to?

[uncut hamlet]

They shouldnt get a free pass due to reasons such as

A - pride is "more hated" then other subjects

B - people are mad if the suggestions arent allowed

[plucky basalt]

C - Unfair treatment

[uncut hamlet]

Pride is undeniably a controversial topic

We all know that

[plucky basalt]

D - NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS REPRESENTATION

[tacit solstice]

im saying that we accuse people of being bigots for saying stuff like tha

[uncut hamlet]

It honestly, is one of the most controversial modern world topics

It fits perfectly into the no divisive subjects rule

[brittle zealot]

Ye that make sense but people still get called homophobic even when they are not just for not agreeing

[gritty sentinel]

Nah, it's the opposite. Pride should be allowed because it's hated by some

Like I said, it's to establish that the game supports LGBTQ

[plucky basalt]

but why

why would people care

[uncut hamlet]

That shouldn't give it a free pass

[plucky basalt]

that a vr game for kids

[uncut hamlet]

Should we give all groups that recieve hate a pass?

[plucky basalt]

supports a hihgly controversial topic

[uncut hamlet]

Should we give religions like Judaism a pass?

[gritty sentinel]

What are you talking about "a free pass" there's nothing to compare it to

[uncut hamlet]

Should we give groups with hate, like communists a pass?

In theory?

[paper meteor]

yes all religions should be able to be talked abt freely in the server

[median dagger]

you could say that about when old school runescape had a pride event
people supported that overwhelmingly iirc, and were very upset when they stopped doing them

[plucky basalt]

other groups that have been hated on

[paper meteor]

i agree with that

[gritty sentinel]

No, because it's a completely different thing what are you talking about

[brittle zealot]

Alright I gotta go to school now bye

[uncut hamlet]

Talked about ✅

Suggested ❌

[plucky basalt]

yeeps aint NOWHERE near as popular as runescape

[paper meteor]

suggested too

[tacit solstice]

all groups in general should receive a pass

[plucky basalt]

no

[median dagger]

but why does popularity matter

[tacit solstice]

aside from bigots

[gritty sentinel]

Religions are belief systems, LGBTQ is a real physical thing

[uncut hamlet]

So then, why should we allow pride because theyre hated, if its the other things that matter?

[median dagger]

this too

[uncut hamlet]

Many people say we should allow pride due to it being very hated

[gritty sentinel]

@uncut hamlet

[median dagger]

many people?

[uncut hamlet]

And both are very divisive subjects

[tacit solstice]

why does pride not matter?

[plucky basalt]

logically speaking here
Bigots are hated on, so shouldnt they also, be able to make suggestions?

[uncut hamlet]

In different ways

[uncut hamlet]

Yup

[tacit solstice]

absolute GENIUS over here

no, because it's against rule 3 and they're horrible people?

[plucky basalt]

answer my damn question

[paper meteor]

bigots have valid reasons to be hated on

[uncut hamlet]

Main point: we shouldnt allow these topics to just slide due to them being hated

Thats the first point

[plucky basalt]

thats an OPINION though

opinions ARENT facts

so that doesnt count

give a real reason

[gritty sentinel]

Do y'all think people choose to be LGBTQ or something that's not how it works

[tacit solstice]

we should allow these topics because people deserve to be comfortable in their video games

[uncut hamlet]

We can still show support, and respect people of pride in other ways then suggesting or adding it to the game. These suggestions affect EVERYONE who plays the game. They are a breeding ground for arguments and hate.

Same for subjects like, religion

Politics

[plucky basalt]

oh nooooo I cant tell everyone that Im gayyyyy
whatever shall I doo I cant sleep because of it I feel so uncomfortable

[uncut hamlet]

Etc.

Well maybe not politics

Thats a strech

Stretch

[plucky basalt]

eh

[tacit solstice]

you CLEARLY are against inclusivity

[plucky basalt]

politics counts towards pride aint it?

[median dagger]

all you care about is divisiveness
but tbf, aside from spaces notorious to be bigoted
-# like gtag, a game known for having too many people saying slurs and such
where have you seen pride be a huge issue?
think, rec room AND minecraft added official stuff supporting pride
I never saw people arguing and quitting over that

[tacit solstice]

no??

[plucky basalt]

inclusivity is good
just not in EVERY damn thing

[plucky basalt]

it supports one political side, and not the other

[uncut hamlet]

Theres always issue, every time, wether how big or small it us

Is

[median dagger]

now I'm gonna go out on a limb here
and say that yeeps has a generally more accepting audience than gtag ever did

[plucky basalt]

not by much

but true

[paper meteor]

rec room added all year hats they werent exclusive to pride month too

[tacit solstice]

im NOT getting into politics

[paper meteor]

and shirts

[median dagger]

"whether how big or small it is"
okay cancel space update because I don't like it

[paper meteor]

it was a pretty major pride updater

[uncut hamlet]

Aswell as, yeeps is way closer to gtag then to Minecraft, we can say that since Minecraft accepts it yeeps will to

[plucky basalt]

yea sorr about that

[tacit solstice]

wait

?rule4

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[plucky basalt]

oh shut it

rules change

[tacit solstice]

ticket time

[plucky basalt]

the pride one did too

[uncut hamlet]

If we are gonna assume, we have to take it from games like gtag. And we know how that went

Yeeps and gtag have a large player overlap aswell

[plucky basalt]

then give others a ticket :P

I didnt start the political convo

pretty sure one of yall did

sooooo

[paper meteor]

no?

[median dagger]

steam charts says that the general playerbase (of steam users) stayed relatively the same throughout the pride updates actually

[tacit solstice]

yes you lit did

[plucky basalt]

no

[uncut hamlet]

Yes?

[plucky basalt]

it was said before me

:P

so unless the mod is BIASED which they shouldnt be

[uncut hamlet]

Its not just about ccu

[paper meteor]

gtag is full of immature teenagers

[tacit solstice]

albie and abiss

[uncut hamlet]

Yeeps is aswell

[median dagger]

what the hell is this all about then?
that some people will be upset?

[uncut hamlet]

It will cause controversy

[paper meteor]

gtag has a way worse toxicity problem

[uncut hamlet]

If lets say 15% of the playerbase doesnt allow the update of a game like yeeps which let's say for example has 10000 ccu (random number)

[plucky basalt]

that not everything needs representation
that some things are better left how they are
that controversial topics arent a good thing
that groups would all want representation

[uncut hamlet]

Thats 1500 ppl who could cause problems

[smoky beacon]

still hard no

[tacit solstice]

controversy of people who are homophobic, and deserve to be banned because of it

[tacit solstice]

on what

[plucky basalt]

and they are

[uncut hamlet]

Assuming everyone who disagrees is homophobic

Is absolutely incorrect

[gritty sentinel]

Yeah if pride stuff gets added and you go "ew pride stuff" that's homophobic 😭

[paper meteor]

they were talm abt controversy

[smoky beacon]

the suggestion

[tacit solstice]

not liking pride is pretty homophobic, dude

[median dagger]

controversy
but the players aren't what matter?
a vocal minority will be so upset about it we shouldn't do it at all??

[uncut hamlet]

Disagreeing doesn't mean "ew pride stuff"

[paper meteor]

if your werent homophobic and disagree you wouldnt make a big fuss abt it prob

[plucky basalt]

no, no its not
get your facts right

[tacit solstice]

absolute GENIUS

[plucky basalt]

is all you do insult people?

what about respect?

[smoky beacon]

it really is

[tacit solstice]

wields the intelligence of a cosmic GOD

[gritty sentinel]

Yeah this is what I'm thinking, like why would you care

[plucky basalt]

treatign everyone with it

[smoky beacon]

give us some then you get some

[tacit solstice]

what about respecting gay ppl?

[uncut hamlet]

There is so many reasons we shouldn't add pride updates

[paper meteor]

as the prince of miami i command the second big bang to stop happening

[plucky basalt]

I have
I've tried to be respectful
but quit when ssopa got here

[tacit solstice]

yeah, keyword EVERYONE and not just a specific group of people

[smoky beacon]

thats why you dont get it from him

[uncut hamlet]

People disagreeing and being upset with for example, a space update is WAY WAY different to people being upset with pride

[paper meteor]

as the prince of miami i command this argument to stop

[tacit solstice]

because i'm a respect sponge or sum

i soak up all the respect

[plucky basalt]

because they never give it back

[median dagger]

okay, then go through them
because apparently your main issue is "divisiveness"
which sounds like a good reason
but could you go into the nuance of what that would mean?

[plucky basalt]

and they never have from what I've seen

[smoky beacon]

they do

[median dagger]

true

[paper meteor]

why did we bring up space updates

????

[median dagger]

me

[paper meteor]

y

[plucky basalt]

not to people who dont actively support pride

so no

they dont

[median dagger]

they said something along the lines of "doesn't matter how big or small" referring to the uproar that could be caused by pride being added
so I mentioned that I don't like space biome, and therefore they shouldn't add it

[smoky beacon]

cause they dont deserve respect from the LGBTQIA+

[tacit solstice]

not supporting pride is NOT a good thing

wait

do YOU support pride?

[plucky basalt]

I dont support it
I dont not support it

[whole vigil]

this whole "divisiveness" thing makes it seem like they queer and homophobic ppl to come together and love each other

[plucky basalt]

Im nuetral

[smoky beacon]

you cant be in the middle

[plucky basalt]

yes

you can

[smoky beacon]

your an ally or not

[smoky beacon]

not in this case dude

[median dagger]

either you think being gay is wrong, or you think it's fine what 😭

[plucky basalt]

so let me get this straight
I dont actively help yall, im homophobic?

[plucky basalt]

I dont care what you do

[smoky beacon]

so your an ally?

[tacit solstice]

yeah, the contraction "don't" means "do not" so you lit js said "i do not support it, i do not not support it" so which is it

[gritty sentinel]

That's not what supporting means

[plucky basalt]

I dont agree with pride
I dont go agaisnt pride

now
can we get back on the DAMN TARGET

[uncut hamlet]

Well, as you js said, divisiveness is one of the biggest reasons why, as we shouldnt allow certain groups to get a free pass, and its a breeding ground for arguments.

Another reason is that other groups may also want these updates for their personal group/beliefs aswell, which leads to more controversy.

Allowing a topic like this but not other divisive ones people may see as part of their personal identity like religion can also be seen as offensive by some ( i personally, dont agree with this, but it will happen)

Also, many people ingame don't get a voice or choice on wether to add controversial topics like these. Topics like these need to be widely discussed with the devs to all players, not just us on the discord

And aswell, homophobic people do exist, and yes we can ban them and get them gone with an update like this, it doesnt change the fact that these people will have already said or done homophobic things which can affect many very negatively as the offense has already been done, and many will feel uncomfortable or perhaps worse.

[tacit solstice]

that's going against pride

[median dagger]

I think thus you are an ally
even if you're not gonna defend pride, or go after homophobic people
you're fine with people being gay, or trans, or whatever else
but don't let me label you king

[plucky basalt]

instead of GOING TO CLAL ME HOMOPHBOIC

AGAIN

FOR THE 9th TIME

[smoky beacon]

omg pyro

nobody said that

[plucky basalt]

YOU WERE THINKING IT

[smoky beacon]

no we weren't

[plucky basalt]

AND YOU WERE

[gritty sentinel]

Bro yapping about "causing arguments" like they didn't post a billion AI ragebait messages 😭

[smoky beacon]

no i wasn't

[tacit solstice]

if it happened 9 times, that's a cause for concern

[paper meteor]

wait

good point

[plucky basalt]

me DISAGREEING

[tacit solstice]

with pride

yeah

[whole vigil]

LMAO

[plucky basalt]

with BOTH SIDES

STOP

TWISTING

MY DAMN

WORSD

[smoky beacon]

[tacit solstice]

you're very clearly on the side of disagreeing with pride

[plucky basalt]

IM ON THE NUETRAL SIDE

LIKE I SAID

[paper meteor]

@uncut hamlet why are u going against arguing when u caused a argument bigger than most if not all pride arguments

[plucky basalt]

CAN YOU READ?

ARE YOU ILLERTARITE?

[tacit solstice]

so why are you albing

[plucky basalt]

the hell is albing

[uncut hamlet]

Even though I have broken some of the things I said, it doesnt "disprove" my point. Ideally arguments are to be avoided

[plucky basalt]

and anyways, people can change

(just to back you up)

[uncut hamlet]

Its about the messages, not the person sending them

[tacit solstice]

advocating for homophobes while saying "im neutral" to not get banned

[plucky basalt]

HOW?

[uncut hamlet]

Also, pride is undeniably more controversial then AI

[silent wolf]

youre just trying to hide the fact bro

[smoky beacon]

yeah no ssopa is right there

[uncut hamlet]

So lets get back on topic

[silent wolf]

me when i lie:

[uncut hamlet]

Ragebait prob

[uncut hamlet]

This is obvious stuff man

[paper meteor]

not in this server

[smoky beacon]

its only controversial if your homophobic

[uncut hamlet]

Wrong

[paper meteor]

which is where u did it

[tacit solstice]

wait

[plucky basalt]

Pride
Religion

biotry

[median dagger]

I've explained WHY those groups wouldn't get an update
but one group being supported doesn't mean others have to say "well I want one too"
again, look to runescape's pride event
I didn't see and christians saying "where jesus event??"

if people see it as offensive, that's their own damn issue
my sexuality shouldn't offend anyone

for people not getting a voice, that's true
but trass could just.. give them one? (if that's what they want)
there are ways trass could get responses from a more general playerbase

making sexuality and gender identity more clear in yeeps will only drive homophobic people away
those people are already there
ig you could argue that makes some people easy targets, but that's frankly stupid

[plucky basalt]

they are ALL

[uncut hamlet]

Not just about this server, but all Yeeps players

[plucky basalt]

CONTROVERSIAL

[smoky beacon]

genuinely not wrong

[tacit solstice]

if we're saying ban controversial stuff

[uncut hamlet]

This is a suggestion for the GAME

[silent wolf]

biotry?

[tacit solstice]

and you want to, as the OP

[plucky basalt]

BIGOTYRe

I bigotry

[tacit solstice]

then why don't you delete THIS suggestion?

it's VERY controversial

[paper meteor]

why would anyone get mad and throw a fit over a pride update other than if your homophobic

[silent wolf]

aww u know what u are

[plucky basalt]

you dotn agree with it

so shut

[smoky beacon]

lonii is the most ironic person ever

[silent wolf]

most annoying*

[smoky beacon]

you shut

[plucky basalt]

because of you though :P

[tacit solstice]

and if we're all about deleting controversy, then let's delete the controversy

[plucky basalt]

ok

delete the pride ones

delete the religion ones

cause now you agree with it

so do it

[tacit solstice]

there are like 2 religion ones

[paper meteor]

lonii can cause a argument bigger than all pride arguments but we cant

mhm

i see

[uncut hamlet]

You explained why, but does that mean it 100% wont happen?

We have already seen someone suggest a mini religious event, which kinda goes against your point.

Also comparing it to a completely different game and community doesnt really prove anything.?

[silent wolf]

anything but letting us queer ppl have sum representation

[plucky basalt]

and?

[tacit solstice]

no, i'm saying that if YOU GUYS don't want controversy, why aren't YOU deleting it

[silent wolf]

yall do anything just to try to make us feel unsafe in a space

[median dagger]

lonii starts argument about pride
"look how much people are arguing about pride guys!!" 😭

[tacit solstice]

this has nothing to do with me

[plucky basalt]

because "representation" and "equality"\

[tacit solstice]

this is ALL YOU

[silent wolf]

like genuinely its just pathetic

[plucky basalt]

like you said :P

[smoky beacon]

its always labrats that like ai that cause controversy

[paper meteor]

what does bro expect?

[uncut hamlet]

And this is also proving my point

[silent wolf]

form a understandable sentence

[uncut hamlet]

Its a divisive topic, we are debating as of right now

[plucky basalt]

you can connect the dots

[tacit solstice]

representing the further protection of homophobia, you mean

[plucky basalt]

at least I hope you can

[plucky basalt]

no

no I dont

[paper meteor]

yeah becuase YOU started a argument

[plucky basalt]

you INFER way too DAMN MUCH

[silent wolf]

yes u do

[whole vigil]

the divisiveness argument kinda makes me feel like they want homophobic people to stay, assuming they don't want the community to be "split" by adding pride

[uncut hamlet]

And many many others would do the same?

[tacit solstice]

that's exactly what this would do

[uncut hamlet]

Its a controversial topic

[smoky beacon]

thats kinda a main thing to talk yknow

[uncut hamlet]

Debates are to be expected

[gritty sentinel]

Gng stop attacking pyro 😭

[smoky beacon]

#hate!

[plucky basalt]

TOO MUCH

IS NOT GOOD

[silent wolf]

gng

pyro is NOT the good guy here

[plucky basalt]

NO ONE IS

[smoky beacon]

implication is nessacary for a good speaking style

[plucky basalt]

THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY?

[uncut hamlet]

This is just getting to harassment atp

[silent wolf]

i am

[tacit solstice]

so by wanting to delete controversy, you made controversy

[plucky basalt]

no

your CLEARLY NOT

your also HOMOHPOBIC

AGHHGg

wait no

[silent wolf]

im gay sontropaliss

[smoky beacon]

Aiden is gay

[paper meteor]

pryo has a blocking feature

[plucky basalt]

anti-religion

[uncut hamlet]

Because I want to remove a controversial topic, yes. Pride is what we are talking about

That is controversial

[plucky basalt]

I do

[uncut hamlet]

It causes debated

Debates

[silent wolf]

just bc im an athiest means im anti religion?

[paper meteor]

use it

[silent wolf]

i respect religions

[plucky basalt]

technically speaking like yall are

[silent wolf]

idc what they do mostly

[uncut hamlet]

Now thay doesnt mean we should js harass people

[plucky basalt]

yes

[paper meteor]

did pryo say stop

[plucky basalt]

no I said that too

yet im homophobic

[tacit solstice]

so you want to target pride, instead of EVERY controversial subject is what you're saying, lonii?

[plucky basalt]

somehow

[uncut hamlet]

Hes clearly making it very obvious hes not defending homophobes

[silent wolf]

bc pride is a human rights movement

[covert raptor]

look at my new house

[silent wolf]

not something u belive in

[uncut hamlet]

Because pride is the only highly divisive subject allowed

[silent wolf]

hi neighbor

[uncut hamlet]

If there was other, I would go after them aswell

[plucky basalt]

you believe in the right of people affiated with pride no?

[paper meteor]

ai is allowed

[plucky basalt]

thats a belief isnt is

[median dagger]

I mean, it could happen yeah
I can't say 100% what trass decides to do
but there are reasons not to, that go past "people won't like it"

and comparing stuff to other games?
what about you doing that with gtag lmao
"oh but runescape is very different from yeeps"
what about minecraft, a game with a MASSIVE community overlap for two reasons

1. they're both mainly about building
2. minecraft is HUGE
   nobody cared when minecraft added pride capes to the game afaik

then compare to recroom, another VR game about creativity, with again, a huge community overlap, where again, people didn't care about pride being added

and in both cases, I didn't see anyone say "okay so add religion too"
furthermore, I never even saw people say that for gtag (though I don't really keep up with gtag)

[silent wolf]

make this more understandable rq

[plucky basalt]

you can ifer

[tacit solstice]

this post is highly divisive

[plucky basalt]

you do it a lot

[uncut hamlet]

That was solved like a month ago, aswell as it being way less controversial then pride as a whole

[plucky basalt]

infer

[silent wolf]

ifer

[uncut hamlet]

We can see this as the ratio of support to being against AI was alot bigger

Compared to pride

[paper meteor]

no

ai is still allowed

[uncut hamlet]

Pride is more like a 35/65 ratio

[median dagger]

I thought the issue was divisiveness?

[plucky basalt]

no?

AI suggestion get closed now

[silent wolf]

me when im wrong in everysingle thing i say but continue to act like im smart:

[paper meteor]

ai as a rule

[smoky beacon]

8:1 yes no ratio

[uncut hamlet]

And lgbtq is 10x more divisive then ai

[uncut hamlet]

Nope

[tacit solstice]

i'd say 90/10 in the dc, 60/40 in the game

[uncut hamlet]

One suggestion has like 50:75 votes

[plucky basalt]

thats not drue

at all

[median dagger]

tbf, not in this server

[uncut hamlet]

50 no, 75 yes

[smoky beacon]

total is like that

[gritty sentinel]

Yeah as in almost everyone disagrees with ai

[plucky basalt]

#1507494950797971707
its 70% dont want, 30% want

[smoky beacon]

estimated guess

[silent wolf]

look at the OLDER pride suggestion

[uncut hamlet]

But its more likely that it will be in hame

And if these suggestions go through

[plucky basalt]

the one whos OPINIONS GOT REMOVED?

[uncut hamlet]

You bare the consequences

[smoky beacon]

no

[plucky basalt]

THAT DOESNT COUNT

[uncut hamlet]

Other way round

[whole vigil]

religion was never brought up in those cases, that's the difference. why does pride have to be related to religion at all?

[plucky basalt]

55 X, 75 Stars

[silent wolf]

me when i agree:

[smoky beacon]

including the XS from before we still beat

[paper meteor]

also if the whole issue abt pride suggestions is arguing the closing of it would cause more arguments??

[plucky basalt]

by a couple dozen

[paper meteor]

whats the point here

[uncut hamlet]

The suggestion by fungus had all the ❌ removed before

[plucky basalt]

and there was liek 200 reactions on both sides

[smoky beacon]

by 56

actually

[paper meteor]

why not js enforce argument rules harder and actaualy punish for it

[uncut hamlet]

This is why we punish harshly to those who make divisive suggestions after this rule would be made

[smoky beacon]

actually more by now

[plucky basalt]

still a damn big chunk

[uncut hamlet]

And these topics sizzle out in suggestions

[tacit solstice]

all three abrahamic religions agree that being homosectual is bad

[smoky beacon]

its like 128 by now

[paper meteor]

we shouldnt punish harsly

[silent wolf]

ditched mine bc homophobia🥹✌️

[tacit solstice]

riddle me this
if you want to delete controversy
and this is controversy
why is this not deleted

[median dagger]

unrelated, but something I noticed is that the X reactions piled up way slower after that, even when the suggestion was still active
sorta proves my theory that people js go with the flow, and if it looks like something is supported, they'll support it, unless they have strong feelings one way or the other

[uncut hamlet]

Yes, we should. So people stop making suggestions on divisive subjects

[median dagger]

people will anyways

[plucky basalt]

also look
this suggestion
has 6 stars, 3 X's

[paper meteor]

even if you punish harsly people would still make open pride thread suggestions

[tacit solstice]

THIS is divisive

[plucky basalt]

thats half that say no

[paper meteor]

including me

[uncut hamlet]

Not just pride, all divisive topics need more punishment

[median dagger]

okay I'll change that ig

[uncut hamlet]

Which is why my title of the post says to enforce the rules

[median dagger]

if reactions matter so much

[plucky basalt]

lmao

[tacit solstice]

so delete this suggestion
it's divisive

[plucky basalt]

ey I didnt start the reaction talk

[uncut hamlet]

Because this is a suggestion that is about pride

[tacit solstice]

downright ignoring me

[uncut hamlet]

Which causes

Controversy

[smoky beacon]

how is somebody being gay effecting YOU

[uncut hamlet]

Thats why we are debating

[median dagger]

idk who did then

[tacit solstice]

that is about REMOVING pride

[covert raptor]

@smoky beacon ???

[whole vigil]

i was more saying that if pride was in the game from the beginning, religion would probably be brought up less

[smoky beacon]

ref

[paper meteor]

also i still dont understand your your allowed to make a really divisive suggestion leading to immense arguing but when we do it even tho its not our intention we get yelled at

[uncut hamlet]

And its still, the topic of pride

[covert raptor]

ok

[uncut hamlet]

??

[silent wolf]

“my religion says its bad”
“its weird they should keep it to themselves”

[plucky basalt]

its not this guys intention

so that logic doesnt count

so shut

[tacit solstice]

okay, so if you don't want suggestions about pride, and this is about pride, why is it not deleted

[median dagger]

I mean

[silent wolf]

top 2 useless sentences oat

[tacit solstice]

WAIT

[uncut hamlet]

Because pride, as of right now isnt a banned topic

[silent wolf]

wth happened

[plucky basalt]

is this all you guys do?
hate on posts?

[uncut hamlet]

Im advocating for it to be banned in suggestions

[plucky basalt]

and so am I!

[median dagger]

no I like some

[tacit solstice]

you not deleting THIS controversy proves that you don't actually want to delete controversy, and are just targeting pride

[covert raptor]

its the tank

[silent wolf]

its all YOU guys do

[covert raptor]

From l4d2

[uncut hamlet]

And so are 4 others rn

[plucky basalt]

no
I support suggestions

[uncut hamlet]

Im curious to see how the ratio of this post would go

[median dagger]

idk if that really proves anything, but it is hypocritical

[uncut hamlet]

I feel like it might be fairly equal

[silent wolf]

yall hate on pride suggestions the very second one is made

[plucky basalt]

no
I give an X reaction
and just converse most of the time after

[uncut hamlet]

Well im making a suggestion, to remove a controversial topic.

That will cause controversy as the suggestion is about that controversial topic

[silent wolf]

x react pride targetting is a thing

[median dagger]

"I used the stones to destroy the stones" ahh

[silent wolf]

and its very obvious thats whats happening

[plucky basalt]

enlighten me

Im HOMOPHOBIC arent I

cmon

thats what you mean

[uncut hamlet]

What other way would I do this? Its a suggestion for the discord after all, so it makes sense to be here

[plucky basalt]

so just say it

[paper meteor]

this can be futher proved by the fact that lonii suported a ragebait suggestion that was made to just cause arguments and hate

[smoky beacon]

targeting pride doesn't solve your problems.

[uncut hamlet]

And i can get people's opinions aswell

[median dagger]

pyro homophobia larping rn

[smoky beacon]

that will make us more angry

[uncut hamlet]

On the topic

[plucky basalt]

good thing I dont
wait you meant something else mb

[silent wolf]

come on dude its so obvious whenever theres a new pride suggestions it immediately gets targetted without ppl even reading the suggestions

[smoky beacon]

im not talking about you

[plucky basalt]

I read it

and I give a reason

[smoky beacon]

if you want war... YOU'LL GET WAR

[silent wolf]

dude.

did i say YOU

[tacit solstice]

okay, if you want me to
you're genuinely not hiding the fact that you're homophobic, your repeated unwant of inclusivity in the community proves so

[plucky basalt]

Fungus's?
I didnt like gadgets

[median dagger]

I mean, that's why I said it doesn't prove anything
it's just hypocritical
even if there was no other way to get your point across to a larger audience

[uncut hamlet]

Best way i can respond to this

Blame the sin, not the sinner

My points still stand no matter who I am

[silent wolf]

did i ever specify im talking about YOU

[paper meteor]

no they dont

[plucky basalt]

did you not?

[uncut hamlet]

The fact your coming at me, instead of the topic, shows you are running out of points to say

[tacit solstice]

if sb murders sb, you're not gonna hate the murderer?

[silent wolf]

NO (but i do think u might be one of the ppl who x target pride suggestions)

[plucky basalt]

do I actively look for them?
NO

[uncut hamlet]

Murder to ragebait is a completely awful comparison

[silent wolf]

but when u find one??

cmon say it

[tacit solstice]

it's still a sin
im saying that that's a stupid argument that NO ONE follows

[plucky basalt]

I read it

and I almost always give an X

except for one

that I liked

[paper meteor]

the fact that your targeting pride and dont wanna ban other controversial topics says alot abt u

[median dagger]

I mean on the topic, if divisiveness is all that matters a lot of other stuff should be banned

[uncut hamlet]

Because most of the other topics... are banned already

And pride is the most controversial one imo

[paper meteor]

ai is not banned

[tacit solstice]

wait, does that mean you hate homosectuality?

[plucky basalt]

should be

actually Lonii you should include AI lol

[silent wolf]

its controversial to the homophobic ppl

[median dagger]

back on the topic of ai, have you noticed how many people are upset when it's included in something?
from what I've seen, way more than when pride is in something for sure

[silent wolf]

they whine abt it

[median dagger]

but I don't see ai mentioned in this suggestion

[smoky beacon]

its only controversial if your homophobic

[silent wolf]

like its sum sort of horrible cause thats poisoning their life and making things worse

[uncut hamlet]

And ive said, pride is more controversial then AI.

Also I havent seen much about AI since the incidents, but ive seen ALOT about pride

Which prompted me to make this suggestion

[paper meteor]

how bro

[plucky basalt]

or people who support it hate on others who dont actively

[tacit solstice]

@uncut hamlet

[median dagger]

ai is so hated
like, really, really hated

[uncut hamlet]

..? Why are you assuming this

Obviously i do not

[plucky basalt]

Lonii aint hate homosexuality what?

[tacit solstice]

so you hate sin, but don't hate sin?

[uncut hamlet]

Well, personally I haven't seen much about it since

[uncut hamlet]

What are you on about

Context please

[plucky basalt]

are you saying that every religious person hates pride cause its a sin?

[uncut hamlet]

We cannot be serious

[plucky basalt]

aint sound inclusive

[plucky basalt]

thats what I got from it

[median dagger]

besides the whole ai thing in this server
use context from outside it
"ai X is being added to Y"
"ai is being added to Z"
people are NEVER happy about it

[jagged barn]

how yall doing today?

[plucky basalt]

like crap

[tacit solstice]

"hate the sin, not the sinner" you say, and in every abrahamic religion, homosectuality is a sin

[median dagger]

arguing with loniii again
reminds me of the dark ages

[paper meteor]

good

[jagged barn]

rough

[paper meteor]

i woke up

[silent wolf]

exactly

[plucky basalt]

so every abrahamic religion is homophobic?

[silent wolf]

im doing so great

[uncut hamlet]

I said that, not about the lgbtq stuff, about me AI ragebaiting

[plucky basalt]

that doesnt sound onclusive ssopa

[uncut hamlet]

But also, thats what people can day for lgbtq

[tacit solstice]

your words, not mine

[plucky basalt]

I just infered like you did

so dw

[uncut hamlet]

And, im not religious, so you'd have to find someone who is to expand that

Point

[whole vigil]

great, i got lays baked potato chips and a sprite watching arguments, never been better

[median dagger]

call me an elephant
because loniii needs to address me

[plucky basalt]

but

your an axolotl

[whole vigil]

ment to reply to @jagged barn

[smoky beacon]

its only controversial if your homophobic³

[tacit solstice]

so why were you talking about hating sin if you're not religious

[uncut hamlet]

Can you rephrase, I dont fully understand

[median dagger]

it's a saying

[smoky beacon]

ironic pyro

[plucky basalt]

oh shut

[silent wolf]

no.

[uncut hamlet]

What i mean is, dont disregard what I say just because of what I did

[plucky basalt]

its a saying

[smoky beacon]

no

[tacit solstice]

it's a saying for religious ppl

[uncut hamlet]

My points still stand

[median dagger]

ai is controversial, and hated wherever it's inserted
besides in certain groups, where they like ai

[plucky basalt]

I wasnt talking to you

[uncut hamlet]

No, its a general saying

[silent wolf]

well now u r

[paper meteor]

Guys lets try to stop the arguments
Maybe lets talk about how our day is going
Lets try to keep the peace and be kind and respectful to everyone going forward

[median dagger]

pride on the other hand, is generally more accepted than ai

[plucky basalt]

could've used that earlier yaknow

[uncut hamlet]

Well, AI suggestions are banned, arent they?

[plucky basalt]

too late now

[median dagger]

if you use one more emoji from this server I'm pinging drex

[tacit solstice]

that we should target pride and that we shouldn't care about the other ones bc "they're less controversiial"

[paper meteor]

[plucky basalt]

that we should target EVERYRTHING controversial

[uncut hamlet]

Twisting my words

[median dagger]

they were locked
idk if they're banned

[plucky basalt]

YOU SEE?
THEY TWIST YOUR DAMN WORDS

SSOPA ALWAYS DOES IT

[uncut hamlet]

The main thing i see rn is pride, so obviously im addressing it

[silent wolf]

for a good reason
we dont want to ruin a game about creativity by adding smth that diverts from creativity

[uncut hamlet]

Im personally fully neutral to it

But idrk

[thorny radish]

Is there any way I can easily jump to the original post without scrolling

[paper meteor]

this is WRONG bro

[plucky basalt]

.

[tacit solstice]

no, that's what YOU said

[plucky basalt]

here

[paper meteor]

u spam ai images

[plucky basalt]

@thorny radish

[plucky basalt]

.

[paper meteor]

talm bout some ai yeeps or sum

[plucky basalt]

mobile

[silent wolf]

u spam ai images on the DAILY

[plucky basalt]

dont think it has it

[uncut hamlet]

Saw elite ragebait had to take part sorry bro

[uncut hamlet]

I send what

Stuff like this

[silent wolf]

me when i lie:

[uncut hamlet]

Doesnt mean I love pride

I mean

Ai

Mb

[plucky basalt]

-# lol

[smoky beacon]

oopsie

[silent wolf]

he said it

[whole vigil]

whoops!

[plucky basalt]

hey

they said it was an accident

[smoky beacon]

that tells us your mind state

[thorny radish]

I'm on mobile and it isn't there for me

[smoky beacon]

that wouldn't happen

[plucky basalt]

it also says you soak up all the fun

idk

[gritty sentinel]

"Fully neutral" doesn't really work in terms of pride, either you support pride or you don't

Supporting pride means you agree that LGBTQ people should have rights and the freedom to exist and represent themselves without discrimination

[smoky beacon]

wonp womp

[plucky basalt]

I dont talk to sponges often

usually boring

[uncut hamlet]

It was an accident, been talking about pride alot

[silent wolf]

yes

[silent wolf]

sure sure

[gritty sentinel]

This doesn't mean you have to actively protest for rights or anything, you just have to not be against them

[thorny radish]

Can you reply to the original message so I can jump to it pls

[silent wolf]

u just spoke your mind dude

[paper meteor]

isnt neutral bad in this situation

white otter is speaking!!

[plucky basalt]

.
@thorny radish

[silent wolf]

GOD whiteotters speaking

[paper meteor]

take cover

[gritty sentinel]

Nah I think they mean "neutral" as in they don't care

Aka supporting

[uncut hamlet]

Well im not against lgbtq personally

[thorny radish]

Ty

[uncut hamlet]

Yes

[plucky basalt]

typo

[uncut hamlet]

Accident, as I said

[plucky basalt]

read

[silent wolf]

bro was CLEARLY speaking his mind

[plucky basalt]

no

that is you INFERRING

[uncut hamlet]

Accusing me of being homophobic?

Harassment?

[boreal cloak]

Whats happening mates

[plucky basalt]

YOU SEE

[plucky basalt]

hell on earth

[median dagger]

god forbid someone make a joke 😭

[boreal cloak]

Im hearing sm about not supporting pride

[silent wolf]

on choppagetti

[uncut hamlet]

And i don't like that joke, so I request they stop

[silent wolf]

bro is PRO AI

[boreal cloak]

God this is my i dont like loniii

[uncut hamlet]

Elite ragebait

[paper meteor]

so wait

[boreal cloak]

Elite immaturity

[thorny radish]

Funniest part about this is that religious suggestions are allowed

[paper meteor]

ur allowed to ragebait causing arguments

[silent wolf]

dude me calling u homophobic was elite ragebait

[paper meteor]

on porpuse

[plucky basalt]

yup

[tacit solstice]

you SURE you're "neutral"

[median dagger]

yeah, you don't have to
but that doesn't mean they're calling you homophobic

[plucky basalt]

but it DOES mean they gotta stop

[uncut hamlet]

Yup

[median dagger]

are they?

[plucky basalt]

jsut to add on

[uncut hamlet]

Very neutral

[boreal cloak]

Sure

[paper meteor]

but DARE... we argue to even though 90% of the time we didnt even start the arguments

[plucky basalt]

pretty sure they got rid of religion from the rule

[thorny radish]

For the most part yea

[tacit solstice]

EIGHT different AI images in the span of a month

[silent wolf]

me when i lie:

[plucky basalt]

yall started this

this one*

[paper meteor]

i think

[median dagger]

I keep seeing them getting closed

[frosty steppe]

GOG i used to be bi and Christian so i have a neutral view on this.

[paper meteor]

the suggestion

was made by lonii

[tacit solstice]

not counting repeats

[uncut hamlet]

Me and brew was having a blast

[silent wolf]

u cant reply to me son rememeber🥹✌️

[boreal cloak]

Having a blast being immature

[uncut hamlet]

However, as I said, hate the sin not the sinner

[plucky basalt]

yea

cause thats fun