Make it so that pillows can’t be placed in active spikes

[honest latch]

well, this would just make volcano impossible
and whatever the fantasy dungeon is called

given the fact that both maps prompt you to do. exactly that

this seems better fit for a gamerule than an actual inclusion

[fallow moat]

but why

what purpose could you have for this

just place team build plates

or ban pillows from your map

[steel jackal]

Fair point, ima edit the post to exclude reinforced pillows

[fallow moat]

that doesn't make this idea any better
I want to reiterate, there is no point
especially if you could just use reinforced pillows

[steel jackal]

I agree that this suggestion is kind of useless, but it makes sense, most items that can tag or deal damage to you that are pointy can also destroy pillows, so spikes should aswell because they fit the same criteria, also why would there be a reason not to implement this

[fallow moat]

"why would there be a reason to not implement this"
the reason is that it would ruin MANY existing maps

[steel jackal]

Name a few maps that actually utilize pillows on spikes then, show evidence

[fallow moat]

the dungeons previously mentioned
also, I'm blanking on the name, but a while back there was a run map that made you place pillows (SPECIFICALLY normal pillows) to get to the end of the map

oh and hill
the official map

[steel jackal]

And asides, map creators could use blocks or brittle blocks if they still want to have a destructible object

[icy imp]

Nathan takes notes to break maps for fun again

[fallow moat]

or, alternatively, the better option, the devs just don't add this

[steel jackal]

There is nothing inherently bad about this suggestion, it would just be a generalization

[icy imp]

Lucky Pillars for one… and that’s a huge cw

[fallow moat]

there is one very niche situation where this could be helpful
a map where you want people to bridge over spikes, without actually allowing their pillows to touch the spikes
but I don't think anyone has ever had the intention of making that map

[steel jackal]

Maps can also be edited to adapt to this

[icy imp]

They shouldn’t have to

[fallow moat]

think for one second about what you're saying

holy moly

spit it out already

been at it for 4 minutes

[steel jackal]

Why should a map creator not be able to adapt, no one will willingly leave a dysfunctional map in the same state, if map maker can’t be bothered to update their map then why would they still cherish it

[fallow moat]

are we deadass?

allat to make the worst possible point?

[steel jackal]

Sorry that i had to find the right wording

[icy imp]

Why the hell should the developers break our maps? We shouldn’t have to do more work or something we didn’t want… you’re a logic is completely backwards

[steel jackal]

You really just gonna be irritating because i took my time to make a proper rebuttal

[fallow moat]

it isn't a proper rebuttal, as it's a bad point
the devs shouldn't change a feature that has existed since the start of the game
spikes breaking pillows makes no sense

[steel jackal]

Why wouldn’t you want to work on your own creation, why just leave something abandoned after building it,

[icy imp]

I shouldn’t have to return to maps I’ve already finished… this logic makes genuinely no sense.

[steel jackal]

Almost every other pointed shape breaks pillows, why should spikes be excluded from this standard

[fallow moat]

because they're blocks

[steel jackal]

Blocks can still break pillows, like flame throwing blocks, wooden land mines etc

[icy imp]

Once I have perfected a map… it’s finished. It’s perfect the way it was, I shouldn’t have to change it.

[fallow moat]

because they're shooting projectiles, or creating explosions bud

only block that I could see breaking pillows is if they ever add lava to the game

[steel jackal]

So every explosion and fire can break pillows, but not every pointed tip can break pillows, what’s the dealio

[icy imp]

So then shouldn’t other blocks with sharp corners also break pillows with that logic?

[fallow moat]

void block breaks pillows next

[icy imp]

Shouldn’t the wallpaper block break pillows 🥀

[steel jackal]

Maps should be able to adjust to changes and routinely checked on and not done and abandoned,

[fallow moat]

dude

[icy imp]

🥀

[steel jackal]

That is a decal on paper

[fallow moat]

it isn't like they could just work around this anyways
it would literally just ruin some maps

and make creators shouldn't have their maps broken randomly

[steel jackal]

If the corners are openly exposed then yeah

[fallow moat]

deadass?

please tell me bro isn't serious

[steel jackal]

Most maps could very much be adjusted to adapt to this change,

[icy imp]

Think of maps like a piece of art… do artists go back and adjust their painting when it’s perfected? No, of course not… they’ve already perfected the piece

They go on to make the next piece

If I have to constantly go back to maps I’ve already made… it will hinder my ability to make better maps

[fallow moat]

any map that requires you to place a pillow on spikes:

[icy imp]

How?

[fallow moat]

forgot this

[steel jackal]

Who’s gonna telll him that those are the only types of maps negatively affected

[steel jackal]

Reinforced pillows

[icy imp]

…

[fallow moat]

you forgot that no maps benefit from this

[icy imp]

What if the pillows need to be destroyed from ranged?

[icy imp]

What if I can’t use reinforced pillows?

[steel jackal]

Brittle blocks

[icy imp]

You can’t place brittle blocks
-# inflate mode obviously

[fallow moat]

those break if people stand on them

[icy imp]

What are you even talking about?

[fallow moat]

[steel jackal]

Or cracked glass

[fallow moat]

breaks if someone lands on it too hard

[icy imp]

Again, you can’t place those in play mode

I don’t think you know what pillows are really used for

[steel jackal]

You can place reinforced pillows

[icy imp]

Those can’t be destroyed from weapons and projectiles

[steel jackal]

Pillows aren’t used for much

[icy imp]

🥀

[fallow moat]

but there is no block that you can:
place on spikes
break with bats and such
place in playmode
besides pillows ofc

[fallow moat]

now bud is just lying

[icy imp]

You should really at least try to think before you make a counterpoint… I really don’t have much else to say

[steel jackal]

Yall win out of sheer annoyance