Pet Arena Is P2W... but not in the way you'd think. Here's how to fix that.

[runic pivot]

its not

I did

its called skill. its like this in pvp too. Just defend

you can predict the moves

[mental axle]

You can also just do your quests normally

[runic pivot]

I did.

ITS A COMPARISON

[mental axle]

The buttons change positions every round

[runic pivot]

its the same on all sides

[mental axle]

No they have different positions

[runic pivot]

thats not pay to win

[mental axle]

Crash out

[runic pivot]

dude calm down.
I did read.

[faint crescent]

the pets are playfighting

[mental axle]

Also people can just normally level up their pets if they have 1 pet yk right

[runic pivot]

im so mad rn.
ITS A COMPARISON

[mental axle]

It is NOT that deep 😭

[runic pivot]

why are you getting deleted

oh all caps spam

dude this could be breaking a rule.
I did read and I made a comparison.

you can do pet quests/do dungeons for butcoins which require skill, plus your argument is eradicated by the fact you can only level up 3 times a day via battle arenas

no

do your pet quests its faster and doesn't have a cap per day

[mental axle]

#1441973633521156259

I’m getting people for mine

[runic pivot]

you can level a pet out of arena like 10 times daily

[mental axle]

Can someone check out #1441973633521156259

Your one not everyone

[runic pivot]

they never added a cap bruh

I got a pet too level 12 in a dat

day

it was yesterday

[faint crescent]

I did read your post and I just wanted to let you know that the pets are playfighting.

[mental axle]

Just ask for items from other people

[faint crescent]

it feels like you're calling me an idiot just for saying a sentence

[mental axle]

If you don’t have pets, you need to grind. That’s how any item works.

Then learn to cook

[faint crescent]

it feels like you're opinion bashing

[mental axle]

“If you have more” how are they gonna get more? Grinding.

Okay, that works too

Also there’s like 4K buttcoins total of 1 minute achievements people can get more pets

If people are putting more pets in then you, clearly they were grinding for them. Everyone started in the same place. New players can also just ask better players to only do one pet so they can learn to get good. I think you’re forgetting better players all started as noobs too. They worked hard to get their pets.

Also 2v2, 2v2v2, 2v2v2v2, 3v3, 3v3v2, 3v2v2, 4v4, 4v2v2, 4v1v1v1 and way mod would be ripped out the game

Yes. They started as noobs too and grinded hard to grind easier.

[gray sandal]

P2W means if you spend money you get a big advantage, you mean if you win you get money, I would reword

I agree tho that is stupid

Should have some more requirements

[mental axle]

I’m saying everything with more than 1 pet/player in battles would be ruined

[gray sandal]

Also, another issue is you can just lineup 4 pets side by side and have them 1v1 to instant win fo free

You can do it without multiple for just as easy just more time

[nimble magnet]

I don’t really see how this is P2W

[gray sandal]

It’s not though, cause 4x4 rounds in parallel is better than 4x1 round after the other 4 times. Cause less setup

[mental axle]

You’re forgetting that players with 2 or more pets all had 0 pets at one point. They grinded up there before they could even do pet arena either which means it is very much possible for new players to do the same with the pet arenas AND the new achievements

[gray sandal]

Also p2w generally means irl money, buttcoins don’t really count as p2w. You still should reword

[mental axle]

Also one huge thing. If someone has more pets then you, just ask them to use 1 or however many instead. We have a good community that will most of the time listen

cough shield button cough

[nimble magnet]

It’s easy to get pets and most people are able to agree on rules so if the person is allowing you to use multiple pets while they only have one pet it’s kind of their own fault

[gray sandal]

They are counting buttcoins as p2w cause if you have more pets you can win fast…

[nimble magnet]

Also, the shield button exist

[gray sandal]

I agree that the requirements are pretty loose but p2w isn’t a accurate lik at all

[nimble magnet]

Since it does reflect damage

[mental axle]

My guy you can’t just say stuff like that whenever there’s a valid comeback

[gray sandal]

No they mean when you are just grinding for bcs

Not actual fights

[nimble magnet]

If you are grinding, then wouldn’t you do that alone?

Also, unless you just started the game, you wouldn’t have only one pet

[gray sandal]

The point is it’s too fast, which doesn’t make since cause having it slower wouldn’t even matter that much.

[nimble magnet]

Still that strategy is like me one level per minute compared to one level per two minutes

[gray sandal]

The idea is more pets = faster bcs form per arena. But that really can’t be avoided, and it’s not that big a deal. It literally doesn’t make a difference if it takes 15 mins instead of 5

[mental axle]

Here’s the problem with that:

• you can ask someone to not use that many pets
• shield button
• you don’t have to play with someone that won’t do less pets than you want

[gray sandal]

It’s not

[mental axle]

Block all of those attacks

[gray sandal]

You sir get it do you

[nimble magnet]

He’s talking about grinding alone. All of the pets are your pet.

[gray sandal]

Can we stop the crashout?

We can talk calmly

[gray sandal]

Lemme explain rq

[mental axle]

In the image I reacted to, it was round one

[gray sandal]

His idea is about solo grinding. I.e you are giving yourself a free win so that you get the buttcoins. His point is that when you have 4 pets you are able to instantly win th match in 1 round which he believes is a bit unfair cause you don’t really play. All eh wants is for the requirements to get a buttcoin should be a bit higher.

[mental axle]

Oooohhh I thought the Image had a 4v1 going

[gray sandal]

Yeah I was pretty confused at first too ngl.

I didn’t get it for your of message either

I had to read more

But misunderstanding a message shouldn’t lead to you getting this mad, next time try to calmly explain in a different way to see if it helps, instead of just repeating the same thing over and over and angrier and angrier

But then you proceddd to talk about winning. Sure it’s solo free wins but it’s still winning. It is confusing the way you worded it

Also please stop with the caps lock, it’s making you look immature if that makes sense

Like crashing out lie they isn’t helping your image…

[mental axle]

I’m back

Okay anyways let me get this clear for you:

the people with multiple Pets, got them the same your describing is “slow” in this whole argument. The new players can still get to the same level as these pros who did the slow method as you call it. @rancid halo

Yes

[gray sandal]

The entire thing is about what counts as a victory. Like I said, it is about solo winning for grinding but saying it’s not about winning then going into detail about how easy it is to solo win is a bit confusing. All I’m saying

[mental axle]

Exactly what I’m talking about

You didn’t read it correctly

Also who cares if players are soloing? It’s not hurting anyone

[gray sandal]

Win and victory are synonyms gng, and you never clarified your chosen meanings for them in this context

[mental axle]

So what are you upset about

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1

What’s your point?

Random

[gray sandal]

It’s too fast, I agree. The whole point is that you get buttcoins when you win a match, instead you can get them for cheating and only doing it in 1 round. They are asking that you need 4 rounds at least so that it requires at least a bit of playing

[mental axle]

Oh attacking

[mental axle]

Okay but why do we care if people are getting buttcoins fast? No matter what the cap is 150 for everyone and it’s not negatively effecting someone

[gray sandal]

Again, the point is totally valid but this sign p2w. P2w means paying like real cash.

[mental axle]

But why do you care if someone’s doing this. It’s not hurting you

[gray sandal]

If you reword I’m sure you’ll get less Xs and confusion

[gray sandal]

Yeah but for something that’s supposed to be a reward for winning, it’s kinda weird that you don’t even have to really play and win yk

[mental axle]

I get it but why should you care

[gray sandal]

Not really, you can get them form paying real cash but it’s also extremely easy to get them for free

[mental axle]

For who?

[gray sandal]

Like a f2p player could get a few pets really fast and do this

[mental axle]

Why should any of us care though?

What does this negatively affect

[gray sandal]

Again tho, the p2w aspect doesn’t seem to be the focus of this post, cause you aren’t suggesting a solution to it being p2w you are suggesting a solution to instant wins

[mental axle]

I’m giving valid questions I’m trying to understand your pov and saying shut up isn’t helping

[gray sandal]

Seriously can you stop getting rude like this when people share their opinions?

You keep getting toxic in posts

That’s nro what they are saying, claiming one idea is bad doesn’t mean thy don’t want you to have ideas. You are completely misunderstanding

[mental axle]

No because they show what’s it’s negatively affecting

I get that. I’m asking what the big deal is. It’s not hurting anyone in any way.

[gray sandal]

This one does too. Cause the whole pijt of the reward is to reward you for winning, but it rewards you no matter what basically. It defeats the whole purpose

[mental axle]

But it’s not hurting anyone and it’s not annoying to people, it’s just a quick way to get buttcoins

[gray sandal]

I mean suggestions don’t gotta fix things that are hurting people. This is just fixing a system that’s a bit counterintuitive and strange.

[mental axle]

Thank you. That’s what I’m looking for

[gray sandal]

Cause it just defeat the purpose of the feature in the first place

[gray sandal]

Yeah they did say that

[mental axle]

And I told you why newer players can still get the new pets

[gray sandal]

Either way it still isn’t pay to win gng . you really gotta change that post name, it’s the most confusing part

[mental axle]

You don’t. All that’s happening is you speeding up how fast you can get a certain amount of levels. Big difference.

[gray sandal]

I also don’t get why you’d re focused on the whole some people can but others can’t while it seems the real issue is that this is possible at all. Cause it defeats the purpose of the reward

[mental axle]

All this is doing is speeding up how many levels you can get in acertain amount of time

[gray sandal]

But you don’t have to pay. And paying don’t give you that much of an advantage.

I’m aware

[viral ore]

What the hell is happening 😭

[gray sandal]

All I’m saying is that it’s weird to think of this as purely and advantage for some players instead of an issue with the system being completely like ruined by it yk

[mental axle]

Idek anymore

[viral ore]

All I see is a screaming OP and people just saying their opinions 😔

[nimble magnet]

<@&1294374590444867675> can we get this closed It’s causing arguments.

[gray sandal]

Was just bouts ping boko my pookie

[viral ore]

Hes my pookie

[frosty copper]

Closing this because of arguments