Spear Alterations

[potent token]

[1 out of 4 added] 🇴 🇴 🇴 ✅
The spear is nice, but it's rather annoying to use, and it oddly has about the same exact range as the bat despite being longer.
I'd hope to see

• The grip when holding the spear is slightly altered, so points forwards a fair bit more, making it easier to stab things.
• The point and which you grab the spear is lower down on the shaft, allowing to to have further range than a normal sword
• Minor Bug fix, the spear may have graphically left the hitbox of an enemy, but it will still recognize the spear as being within the hitbox, preventing you from stabbing the enemy. (This might've been fixed? I have yet to test it)
• The wrist mounted vacuum should be able to vacuum spears/arrows even when they're penetrating an enemy/yeep Added! ✅

[limber hound]

I'm with you on this one
vacuum and spear should combo way better

[potent token]

Honestly the spear is close to being a new favorite of mine. Shield + Spear against the yeti really saved my hide

[limber hound]

I like the spear just because it looks cool

but it comes with the upside of being a thrown melee weapon?
-# (dagger doesn't count)

that's double cool

and don't forget the... weird hitbox

it's really hard to hit people with it

[wheat urchin]

it’s just not very usable with the hitbox rn if they fix the hitbox it would be fine imo

[umbral bough]

Is the spear buggy for anyone else when they hold it?
Like when I throw it, it will hit people just fine, but when I hold it, I cant hit a target dummy

[wicked wraith]

Yes vacuum for sure and also when they are midair, so we can catch em

Also not grip change aside from further down Ig

Or make it longer

[potent token]

So you have to jab people with the spear, slashing won't work. Then you also have to make sure the tip of the spear is very far away from the target before you can stab them again

[wicked wraith]

Revive?

[limber hound]

I think that the spear should have more uses

instead of just stabbing, I think it should slash too
it DOES make it less unique, but it would make it a better weapon
and it would make more sense, as getting slashed with a spear would really hurt
but of course it would still have the hitbox be the tip, and possibly just as small

[potent token]

Ya, at the very least it's range should be longer than the bat. Which currently it's not much different.
I'd be okay with having to stab, if it meant getting longer range for attacks

[ionic abyss]

it has more aura than the bat

[wheat urchin]

does it have a damage increase at all or nah

[limber hound]

it just feels odd when you almost stab, but not really

[wheat urchin]

from bat

[atomic scarab]

It feels weird at first, but you get kinda used to it

[limber hound]

so a small slashing hitbox would make it more useful
still, it's so cool it's like the only weapon I use
it's bundle reskin cool

[limber hound]

I am kinda used to it
but I can see it being awful sometimes
as soon as someone gets in range to hit you with a bat, you are out of range to counter attack

but has anyone tested spears against shields

I feel like they might have piercing when thrown or something

[atomic scarab]

If they act like the arrow, shouldn’t they just bounce off tho

[limber hound]

yeah but like
what if they don't

just to make it a good shield counter

bats < spears < shields < bats

[potent token]

Fr they need to fix the hitbox on it

[limber hound]

"Fixed being able to raise terrain into the lobby or hallways"
do y'all think they removed the broken terrain, or are some maps just weird now

because my CW lobby was almost left with really annoying terrain
so if it stays broken, I'm VERY happy I fixed it

[atomic scarab]

It’s just like the arrow, but it’s easy to have it rebound into yourself

[limber hound]

oh okay
so just worse than the arrow when it comes to throwing
like entirely 💔💔

[potent token]

The spear is really good against enemies that jump above you. You can actually juggle mobs pretty well with them

[potent token]

Shotguns insta-break shields, I feel like spears should definitely do the same

[pallid galleon]

Yeah because throwing isnt the main point

Its supposed to be a multi tool

[limber hound]

but is should have SOMETHING to incentivize you to throw

otherwise, you'll just throw an arrow usually

[pallid galleon]

Maybe like a dagger, higher damage when throwing?

Like dagger gets crits when sneak attack

So spear could get crits for throwing

[limber hound]

I mean
it probably shouldn't be TOO good

500 damage a throw with two spears + vacuums would be an annoyingly good strategy

[pallid galleon]

I mean health is usually 5000 so youd have to do it five times and thats enough time to get away

[limber hound]

but I hope to see a CW use item cannons + spears underwater as like a torpedo trap
that would be cool

[pallid galleon]

Oh yeah

[limber hound]

not if you're backed into a wall

or if there's a ceiling

and even then, 1k easy damage would be kinda wild

[wicked wraith]

It should be able to
Slash but only with the hit oc of the spear head

[pallid galleon]

How fast do vacuums pick up items i havent tested

[limber hound]

yeah I like that

[limber hound]

near instantly

like
as soon as you press the button iirc

[wicked wraith]

I think it literally is instant, it might have some animation interpolation but I think it’s instant

[pallid galleon]

This is realistic and nerfs it, it should take longer to pick up spears and arrows when in an entity with vacuums, because it would have to unlodge from the entity

Maybe like 1 or 2 seconds is good

[limber hound]

okay

spears should be physical when stuck

like snowflakes

[atomic scarab]

Yes! Making them have some sort of mobility use case would save their throwing ability

[potent token]

Shield + Vacuum + Spear is my go to strategy against mobs.
Against players however? They can usually snatch the spear before you can vacuum it back

[potent token]

If that gets added, then somebody has got to recreate Tai Lung's escape scene inside of yeeps

[limber hound]

I'll do the honor

[potent token]

o7

[limber hound]

I'll do every cave with only spears if this is added

[potent token]

Awww man that'd be so much fun

[potent token]

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[limber hound]

I haven't said this here apparently, but a few days ago I found out spears do double damage when thrown

[potent token]

Oh wait really? Dang, I was wondering why they were so effective in goblin mode xD

[teal parcel]

Ye i wan stabbe

[quaint lion]

Always the most fire ideas.

[fallen canopy]

Is this just me or does the spear have a cooldown when stabbing like if I stab a wolf I can’t stab it again for like 10 seconds

[solemn pine]

Spears need to be able to be held at the base with one hand and loosely held near the top with the other so you can jab one forward like how a spear is used in real life.

[potent token]

If you read the third bullet point on the suggestion. I originally interpreted that as a bug (the spear wasn't being brought out far enough) but now that you say that, it really might be a cooldown.

[umbral bough]

spear is bat but pointy