Make BAMs more building based

[merry fractal]

I think recently a lot of the bam maps that do well are playability based and less of actually looking good.

[valid yoke]

I completely agree 💯

[abstract shadow]

isnt that literally one of the points

[midnight arch]

dude

if it was based on only this bam then i'd agree with you

but i've heard from all of my friends that the playability on BaMs have sucked

on almost all BaMs

usually they're just some basic gamemode with like 1 extra feature which gets boring quick since you've definitely done that in ANY other map

[merry fractal]

What I’m saying is that the current winner has a good playability map but when it comes down to actual size it’s very small with little details, and the current finalist 2 feels like a map I would make in about 2 days for a community world,

[merry fractal]

Yes but the current finalist 2 could be built by almost anyone, it does not have anything to look at it’s just a fun building game, with little to no detail

[empty hill]

That’s…. The point..

[merry fractal]

The point is the have fun playability and good looks not just one, and I feel like finalist two only has playability with pretty much nothing to make it look good besides some slope blocks and very small details

[twilit valley]

I think that the past bams have had the exact opposite effect in my opinion

I feel like until the last bam, the past couple of the other builds were more “look at what I could build!” instead of actually having a good playability factor

[twilit valley]

maps don’t necessarily have to have the best details ever to be fun and enjoyable

[dense wave]

its dependent on peoples play styles but thats why its a voting system

[crude quest]

Would you not want a map with good playability in rotation for 2 months?

[small badger]

That was a problem with past bams tho, they would win purely because of looks without having fun gameplay at all, I like it when I can actually play a map and not just look at it, however I do agree that some bams seem a bit lazy, but that’s not cause they are gameplay focused

[obsidian granite]

My honest opinion, after playing all 3 BAM finalists

Finalist 1 is slightly boring as there are corners where you can AFK to win, however a good design

Finalist 2 can be built by anyone, however the gameplay is really good

Finalist 3 is really detailed, however I receive frame drops frequently on the map

I will be voting for Finalist 2, however it could be improved with more detail

[indigo sequoia]

i don’t pay attention to bam but

i’d much rather have a map that’s more fun to play even if it doesn’t look the best than the opposition

your map should be fun to play, not good looking

that’s what yeeps is about

look at any official map

none of them are that detailed but they’re all mostly fun to play

[livid cairn]

I agree with wacky

[merry fractal]

But it’s a building competition not just a playability competition, so you should need to have a detailed map with good looks and good features to play your map with

[indigo sequoia]

it's a competition on whoever can build the most fun map

not the coolest looking map

[merry fractal]

I would want a map that has a great amount of both, because it’s relatively easy to make a good playability map but to have a map with good playability also look very good is even better

[twilit valley]

1/4 of the requirement for BAM is aesthetic-based, it’s always been about how fun someone can have in a map

there’s been map winners before that haven’t necessarily been the works of Michelangelo but they were still super fun

[indigo sequoia]

the last bam i remember that focused more on looking cool than being fun was the submerged ocean ruins thingy

i think it was 13?

i forget

[merry fractal]

How do you know it’s 1/4 and what I’m saying is if it is it should be 50/50 between looks and playability

[indigo sequoia]

either way i really hated how boring the map was despite it looking cool

[snow cloak]

I’d honestly prefer something that’s more fun but looks kind of bad than something that looks good but it’s really boring

[indigo sequoia]

i think this guy just wants to flex his maps a lil more tbh

[twilit valley]

in the #📚・bam-guide under judging, aesthetics get 1 category under the 3 other categories of judging

but I think it’s really just a preference thing

it’s a good thing to realize that each bam judger has their own tastes too

[snow cloak]

Like would you prefer a game that looks amazing but sucks to play and is really boring or a game that looks okish but it is really enjoyable and fun to play.

[torpid sedge]

bruh BAM (build a map)

[indigo sequoia]

well he isn't asking for that lol

[merry fractal]

I just think it’s not fair to put a lot of work into a big map and just get taken over by something that could fit in a sandbox map

[indigo sequoia]

he's asking for it to be based more on good looks nor solely on good looks

[crude quest]

Well what if there wasn’t said map built

[indigo sequoia]

then maybe they shouldn't build a map with that much detail

they shoulda made it more fun

like to play on

i don't look at the bams to be like "wow this looks cool" and then leave, i go to bams to have fun

which is why i disliked that one by peble

it wasn't fun to play on because it was entirely submerged although it had a ton of detail

[crude quest]

Anything can get finalist/ top 25… Bam 1 a sandbox map got top 25

[glass trench]

As far as I know they judge on various criteria, building quality is just one of the categories.

If your map didn't get to top 3, then just try again. I've done many BAM builds.
Plus this is wildcard so I'm glad to see something that is actually really fun to play for once and not the usual revamped maps that builders expect to get to top 3.