#(FIXED) "Failed to load game" (Getting room data for tutorial)
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I have this happen before but now I canāt get it
I also cannot log in
Iām in PST
I have restarted so many times we want to play this update
Happened to me,but im re-downloading so i hope that works
This happened to me a really long time ago and now during the update but I don't remember how I fixed it sadly
GMT
Why Nathan not talking no more
i also tried to restarting my game and it does not work
I'm EST
But Iām in canada
Help us
hes taking break
He's on a break
im officially dead inside
Lemme reinstall and restart game
Everyoneās is for new update right?
Ya
Mine is
Iām in EST
...
@quick osprey hereās something new. Maybe related.
yh
MIME WORKS!
Imma try again
I think mine works now
PLEASE RESTART YOUR GAME IF YOU WERE SEEING AN ERROR ABOUT THROUGHPUT
What the hell is going on?
I just restarted headset and I'm in
im in
Mine works
I havenāt tried yet
HELP ME I CANT Get in Yeeps I am in GMT timezone HELP
you just need to restart your game please
Hi Nathan
I did it still won't work
send a screenshot please
I did the 1 minute future thing Uninstall and reinstall nothing worked
I uninstalled it
Potential Fixes
Many players have resolved the issue for themselves using one of several tactics. This includes
- Uninstalling and reinstalling the game
- Uninstalling + deleting any local data
- Setting their time to 1 minute in the future
- Disconnect from WiFi, then reconnect
None of these tactics will cause you to lose progress.
For many users, it's also tied to their internet. See if you can mess with it
check the message above
including the time change and uninstalling while also restarting?
Still won't work I tried everything
How do I delete the local data
what did you do
same
It won't work
Nope
Yeah same
same did everything
Welp we are cooked
okay, once most of the chaos has died down I will resume experimental patches
GUYS
k
yes
What
what
Disconnect ur headset from wifi and reconnect it
k
It worked 4 me
Wont work
IT WORKED
did you try all of the things in the pinned message
check the pinned message in this thread
ok
yah me to ice been waiting
It's saying this now
What do you mean local data
can you send a screenshot
there should be a way to delete data associated with an app
no i cant upload a photo it kicks me from my Oculus menu
okay can you write out what it says maybe
or what does it say
ok one sec
rooms: failed to fetch room data forvroom tutorial with error:
an error occurred while sending the request
i got stuk
gotcha. please try the stuff in the pinned messages
i have all of it
how do you delete local data
I think it's in settings
I have gotten in earlier, but now it isnāt working. Iāve messed with the WiFi, and I have set my time 1 minutes ahead.
i even reinstaled it again but nope
i did what the pinned msg said but still
okay I will resume work on this if the above fixes aren't working
first send a screenshot of what you're seeing
this is what it says if u want to know
Yeah that's what I. See too
same
I am working on it right now but it's not an issue that I fully understand
Ok
many people have fixed it themselves by doing the stuff in the pinned message
me too
but it may take me a while, as I'm also waiting for responses from amazon support
so I can't say for sure when it will be fixed
Nathan it worked
So I went to experimental and then I restarted my headset and turned off and on my Wi-Fi and it worked
Okay, I will resume my research on the issue as soon as I eat something
And now it's not working, BRUJ
that was after you tried the internet trick right
I was so excited for the update
can you send a screenshot
Sure
I did the internet trick and it worked then I went to eat and when I came back I couldn't get in
Same here it doesn't work š
Same
oh interesting, not what I expected
Same I've restarted my game 5 times by now
Same
okay let me get off discord and eat something and then I'll try to send out some attempted fixes
This is my first time talking to anyone thatās actually kind of famous
I mean, youāre actually famous
also I think my timeout time is set to about 5 minutes so just to be 100% sure
if you do wait for like 10 minutes
does anything appear
No
After spell like 15 minutes, it does show that login failed screen that purple one
gotcha, I just wanted to make sure that it still had a screen
do you have an image of it
Here let me try again
Omg how do I do it
I still have that same screen
I cant Log in yeeps because of my wifi

It just never lets me get in the game
It just shows me that loading screen
And that picture of the login failed
If u click the : then settings then click experiment and then change it to live
I tried that it doesnāt work
Same
Well that's how mine worked
Mine was already on live before I even had the problem
Wait, Yeeps has another update for me
It's the ocean update
No, I already did the ocean update but thereās another one
Try experiment

Erm
It didnāt do anything
Itās still doing the thing where it shows me the loading screen and the login failed screen
Then I don't know
Have they fixed it yet?
I'm still working on it sorry y'all
I have some tests I need to try though, for anyone who is still around
it will likely be a very manual process
once I set it up I'll ask y'all to switch to an experimental branch
Not it
When should we switch?
I switched to experimental and itās still loading
I will let you know
Ok
sorry the test is not up yet
k
either is fine, but if you want to participate in the test it might be easiest to stay on experimental
Ok
ok
Its not working for me
Ok
k
it should just say "SUCCESS" or "FAILED" depending on what is going on
(when it comes out)
Is there gonna be an update on Yeeps like will the game update?
there will be a new version on the experimental branch called "`1.6.0_experimentalTest"
i have only been able to join twice cuz it keep not working. the 2 times i have got in, i tried to get into my private but all of the names say loading... and i cant leave or join anything
I see I clicked on it and will will you like update or do I just go on Yeeps right now?
I changed the thing to experimental test and should I go on Yeeps?
yes launch it and then lmk what you see
@wicked leaf are you able to do the same (switch to the "experimental" version)
forever loading and then failed to load starting room
k
which version
Me and my freind are in the same timezone so I don't think it's the timezone
experiment test
can you send a screenshot? it should say something like TEST FAILED I thought but maybe my code is bad lol
Yeah, mine still loading right now, but Iāll keep waiting
k
Promo code beach doesn't work
Ok
Mine just said failed two loads starting room
does it say "experimentalTest" on the version
Iāll send you a screenshot
or does it just say 1.6.0
It says 1.6.0
Ok
1.6.0a
same for you, the version should be "1.6.0_experimentalTest"
Thereās an update
hold up im trying to install meta on my pc so i can send screenshot
im re installing yeepa
Mine says 1.6.0a
yeeps
Mines updating right now
I'm running an experimental test rn but it's not a fix, just a way for me to get more information
did you try any of the troubleshooting steps in #1273356129501581425 message
Ok
I got the test failed, Nathen
thank you
Your welcome
Try switching game channel to live version
sorry I'm running some experimental tests rn
so the experimental version will be mega scuffed while I look into it
Mines loading right now
Minevis this long thing
Should I do something else in channels for Yeeps? Nathan.
Help please
for now no, this was just a test that I was trying to use to figure out what the issue is
Ok š
it will probably take me at least a few hours to figure out what this means
and to keep bugging amazon support lol
but thank you for the info so far
gotcha, so yeah ig in both cases it's not like a data limit thing
I restarted my headset 3 times and then it was fixed
Should I switch back to live or experimental?
I did that at least 7 times
Or staying in testing
test failed
if you are able to help me with the testing then I am going to try one more test
Ok
Ok
k
Ok
but if you want to keep trying some of the other tests then you should do that on live
k
Could I test too?
same
im fine with testing until its either resolved or we know what the problem is
Same
The sad thing is I got in the game and bought the pack. Now I can't get in the game
What is the pack?
My store is not working
at the moment i only have one project and that is building a website
Mine also so say faild to load starting room
Can I help with the test
Nathan store not working
Bro it fell loading in the fail loading in roomššš
same
same
It worked for me yesterday but not today
What does a pack look like?
pirate

it looks like this
also I'm building my second test rn
so it'll be about 5-7 minutes
Uninstalling and restarting then reinstalling then restarting again can be a fix but not all the time
nice
Ok š
Ok
Nathan is very sigma
Fr
And skibidi
Ah yes that too
Erm what simga

Sigma
can i help with the test
dont text unless it is about the bug
He hasnāt put out the second one yet
Okay
He said about like 5 to 7 minutes
Ya
Hey mushroom man, which kind of mushroom are you?
Yes
Did you guys forget?
Hey, Iām bored
Ok
Then go to general chat
Bm probably wants to stay here to check up on when Nathanās gonna put out the second experimental testing
Yeah
Ok
Iām just keep on trying to restart my game and then reload the game to see if it works
K
Lab rat
I wish I had lab rat
Same
But what if I change Yeeps to lab what does it do?
same
nothing it's just the same as the live version
Ok
meta upload is still loading
k
Ok
ok
Ok
Is it fixed
i hope i get content creator on the 23
will you say or ping when you think this failed loading thing is fixed
okay
I will try to ping the people here
ok
not yet, I'm still running tests
Ok
@wicked leaf @dusty saffron Please give experimentalTest2 a shot if you can
i can to
it's still the same type of build where it will just say "TEST FAILED" or "TEST SUCCESS"
Ok
sounds good, yeah I think you also know how to
Iām testing it now
How close do you think you are to fixing this problem
I'm not sure, depends on how this test goes
Does the channel say experimental test two?
it should say 1.6.0_experimentalTest2
I donāt see it
Good luck
Never mind found it
ill send screenshot
@quick osprey,these are results from the test. My end result though.
i got in but it will probably be buggy again after i get off
Ima try
hm
whattt
okay, thanks y'all
I'll switch experimental back to 1.6.0a so that people who are accidentally on the branch can maybe play and then I'll take this info to amazon support
definitely not the result I expected but it's still really helpful info
ye
Iāmma test it out real quick
Why Amazon support? What does Amazon have to do with any of this?
does this mean it's not fixed but now you can find out what has been happening to fix it
we're using amazon servers lol
Oh, OK
Test failed
Test failed
@quick osprey should i continue trying to get in or should i just wait for it to get fixed
if the steps in the pinned message didn't work then you may just have to wait unfortunately, but I'll try to ping the most recent people who were talking if I have any other attempted fixes
unfortunately every fix I do will be experimental since I can't get the issue myself
Same
When do you think it will be fixed
Power off your headset and power it up and it's fixed
it works sometimes
Same for me
How do I delete any local data like it's says to turn on yeeps
I delete and restarted 3 times and still doesnāt work
@main sand same
They sent me something saying how to fix it in one of them says uninstalling heaps and deleting local data from I don't know so I'm just wondering out how to do that
Iāll be back in 1-2 hours or so, no bright ideas on how to address the issue
If anyone has any non-identifying information about their WiFi (like whether they have any firewalls, connection speed, whether the issue happens on both mobile and VR, multiple headsets in the same home) etc lmk and I will review when I return
I will fix it by the weekend though that is for sure
The methods didnāt work for me
But Iām still just trying to learn more about what makes the issue happen to the people that it affects
Same
I don't either
I've restarted my headset like 13 times
I've tried everything that I thought could fix it. Idk what to do anymore
Me niether
I've thought about reinstalling it, but I don't want to lose anything I have
I tried it again and it gave me a different one
Sane
I've already done that, but it didn't work
Oh
Well, I don't like this whatsoever and like I've tried everything I swear
Same
I hope this gets fixed soon
The update is out, and my friends are telling me to get on, but I can'tš
This has been going on for the past 3 days for me
Same bro
It's been happening to me for like 15 hours
@quick osprey does uninstalling it make you lose everything
I thought it did?
Sometimes
oh no I uninstalled it
It's doing the exact same on the mobile app tooooooo
I'm going to lose my streak of 24 days
GAWD DAMN
How did this even happen?
I only had 4 days, but still
I had 23 days
I'm seriously boutta quit yeeps
Should we join a code and talk about this or no
It happened to me before too, but it was because of the wifi
You got gtag
Yes
Yeah
Ok join code "XABC4"
Ok
K
We will talk
PST time pls help me figure this out:(
why can i not play
It sucks
He doesnāt even know what happening heās working on it
it no work for me
why cant they not fix the bug already
Because they donāt know what caused it yet
@quick osprey I factory reset my head set I didn't lose my stuff and I was able to get in yeeps
Are you able to leave and rejoin and still be able to get in the game?
Are you able to leave her door and still be able to get in the game?
Yea
Itās fixed for you
im in america new york time zonr
Yea
How do you factory reset your VR?
Guys I canāt enter the game
same here
You need to hold down your power button and volume down button
Yes
Idk
No but you will have to sign back into your account then redownload them
Yeah
I got in tho
HOW
This was happening to me earlier, now Iām fine.
How u fix it
how
I restarted my oculus 5 times š
oh
I think Im gonna have to delete the game š
Wish me luck
Ill dm the devs if lab rat gets deleted
Ive now started getting this problem on the newer vers. Same error as everyone else. Tried uninstalling, restarting, reinstalling. Uninstalling then deleting the Yeeps folder in my files. Nothing's worked so far
dang
Do you have to sign back into your VR account?
how
idk..
how do you set your time one minute into the future
same thing happens to me i got stuck
dang
ive tried everything else to fix it
Yes
Didn't work š
@quick osprey is this gonna get fixed soon
I had 23 day streak itās prob gone
if i uninstall yeeps will my data get reset
are you sure
I still canāt play
is there any reason it might not?
Bro I canāt play the update šššššš
i uninstalled it and set my time for one minute in the future but it still doesnāt work
It didnāt it let me on once then it was reset and then I couldnāt get back on it
@quick osprey im going away for my birthday tomorrow and the day after will i lose my streak of the issue isnt fixed?
no
My game is broken still
Nathan plz fix this
Restart your headset it worked for me
Ok Iāll try
I have restarted my headset many times and it has not worked yet
I need help šš
Guys I want to play the update, but I have the glitch please help
For some reason it only effects people in the time zone of denver colorado and no one can fix it lol
No I'm in ohio
Bro there's no way
And have the issue
No
O that's whatnI've heard
Iām in bst
Not pnly there nut nathan ssid it seems to be common there
Itās the uk
O
Idk but I canāt play
And Nebraska or Central for time zone
Weird
us here too
Iām back now, I have some ideas I will be trying
ok
Yay
Sorry again to keep everyone waiting, I had to clear my head for a while
yayy
Ok no problem take ur time
cooooolllll
Yo bro, any clues on why this is happening?
Same
me to
T-T
same i wanna buy the bundle
I know why itās happening vaguely just not how to fix it
This sucks, bro. I canāt believe I canāt play the new update that Iāve been waiting for like a week.
what
you didn't do anything
Just be patient
Yeah
I canāt be patient any longer, bro. Iāve waited a week.
Why did you make me do that? š„š„š„š¤§š¤§š¤§
I canāt get my account back
Nathan do I wait till tomorrow
W
thank you bro W
ok
Nathan is the goat
When is it getting fixed because i wont be there for 2 days?
idk yet
How do you uninstall local data?
I said you needed to sign back in
My friend firemonkevr is having trobule to
Iām tempted to say something
idk i need help too
Most likely deleting the Yeeps folder in your quest files, if you have side quest then it should be relatively easy
isnāt side quest illegal
hasnāt worked for me tho, ill try some other things
guh
unless youre using it to cheat in games then yea thats against metaās policies
Cry about it then
@plucky sundial be nice
No
@plucky sundial yes
It happend on my phone but I just restarted my game and it worked
A fix has not been sent yet. I am still working on it
When is the estimated time till it gets fixed
Ideally within 1-2 hours
Ok thanks š
If it doesn't get fixed will I lose my 22 day streak?
no
streaks won't expire rn
Ok thank you
there is an unpainted block on the skull in ship wars
Any fixes yet?
This is not the channel for that
I know
I'm a little preoccupied rn
ok
Nathan, I know youāre really working hard on this and itās probably really stressful. I just wanna say youāre doing good. Hopefully you get this under control by the time the update really sets In bro
Yah mine is still broken
im getting mad bro my game worked finally then it didn't
i know you are trying than but please figure out a way
Dry ment to say nathan not than
ment to say sry not dry
Itās soo annoying when itās working and then it stops
yea im just trying to play the game that is really fun
and save up but can i do quest no i cant
||sigma skibidi tolite Ohio gyatt rizzler gooning edge gyatt Rizz sigma toilet ||
Just lettin y'all know that I am still at it
Okie dokie
Iām staying up till it gets fixed
a new experimental version will be coming in about 10 min
k
Hopefully
I won't let me play at all I happens over and over again
Good luck
build still loading
Do u need to be a labrat to get in one of those
maybe another 10
no
Whatās it for?
but if y'all can be here when I upload the experimental version that would help a ton
10 minutes?
a new authentication flow that should be more stable
Oh ok
||hello||
question nathan.
You got this nathan
Also how do I access it
I will include instructions once it's ready
Ok Tysm
Okie doki
i uninstalled my game earlier and reinstalled it and that didnt work but im nervous because i cant tell if i have my stuff still.
how do i fix it
If you are experiencing the bug, please try switching to the experimental version
Look for 1.6.0_experimental3
There are 3 ways to switch branches, use whichever one works
- On your Quest
- Go to the "Yeeps: Hide and Seek" app on your Quest
- Hit three dots icon on the top right and go to "Settings"
- You can also get here manually through the Settings app
- Click "Release Channels" and select "Experimental"
- Use the 'Meta Horizon' App (not the companion app)
- Make sure you've updated the app
- Search "Yeeps" and then select it
- Scroll down to "More Information" and expand it
- Click on the number next to "Version"
- Change to "Experimental"
- Use the website on a laptop
- Go to "yeeps.com"
- Log into your Meta Account (the same one as your headset)
- Click the dropdown next to "Version"
- Change to "Experimental"
Itās still there
you will not lose anything no matter what happens with the game
@tight pivot @foggy garden
yes
ok
Oh sweet tysm
like the oceon one
btw thanks your game is awesome i just want to get on to buy the BUNDEL
@fallen yacht if you are here can you also try the experimental version
yes it's the same as the regular update just theoretically more stable
oh so i can still buy the bundle right?
It no workey workey
Nathan, I made it in the game, on experimental. Does that mean it is a success?
can you send a screenshot
potentially
Ok
Ok sure hold up
@quick osprey do I live expiremental on the whole time
I tried doing the steps to get back into the game at work once butā¦
Nvm it is updating
It randomly started updating
to go to the expemental version
if you want to try the new flow, please switch to the experimental version :#1273356129501581425 message
HOW
how to i try to go to the expermental versoin
to join
plsssssss i want to buy the bundle
#1273356129501581425 message
IT WORK
nathan another question
- am i playing in real lobbys to?
- if i buy the bundle will i have it in normal version
it's the same lobbies
oh ok
I believe I just got a different message after I disconnected my wifi then reconnected
Thereās something new at the bottom I believe
can you try switching to the experimental branch and seeing if that works for you: #1273356129501581425 message
This happend to me on my phone
Ey ey captain
did you update the mobile app
Yeah it was outdated thx
I've been having trouble getting into the game without having to restart my headset.
can you try switching to the experimental branch
no its more like the loading screen lasting longer than normal, but most servers are full right now
oh
Nathan experimental has worked for me
Nathanās the best š
@quick osprey good job, bro it works. I actually got to experience the update.
That's great!
im updating rn
I am very excited to try the new update
Eres muy bueno en el juego
Santa helpis
ĀæTĆŗ hablas englis?
This should be resolved on 1.6.1
Lessss goooooooooo
I tried logging on but it still said I canāt
can you send a screenshot of yours
Ok
It showed the same screen even after I updated Yeeps
And I think I lost my daily streak
the mobile app has to be updated separately from the VR version
once you update the mobile app, this screen will go away
its not working im getting the talked to load starting room
It still was showing me the same screen idk why I updated the game on my phone and vr
can you send a screenshot
can you see what version it says it's on on the app store
no but there should be a number like 1.5.2
my daily challenge bored is just a blank screen
Did you leave and rejoin
yes
Try it again on video
l
Hmmm
interesting. could your system time be different from real time
The update is 1.6.1 and the version code is 232 right
how do i fix it
I've never seen it stay there after just restarting the app
maybe try restarting your headset
that's on VR, but the mobile app should be a different number
vr mr just died so i cant
Ok how do I see that?
go to the page on the app store
āThe Yeeps Companion App is the ultimate support tool for content creators and Yeeps fans!
ELEVATE YOUR CONTENT CREATION
- The app automatically follows you when playing in VR
- Capture moments easily with screen recording
- Record content in first person or shoulder cam
- Film with awesome in-gameā¦
Itās on 1.6.0
When I restarted my headset because the daily challenges would not load it showed that
hm, that's very odd
I don't think the mobile app should even have that layout on 1.6.0
Look
Here's my proof
can you try uninstalling and reinstalling the mobile app
Ok
did you try changing your system time already
It still says 1.6.0
Even on the app
okay but then when you log in it does the other thing?
What do you mean?
Oh let me see
It shows the same screen
Ok
Is there a way to get my streak changed back cuz I lost I think cuz it said until it get fixed and I see people posting on YouTube that the problem is fixed
@quick osprey
Make a #š«āgeneral-support ticket and Iāll look
Ok
Do I tag u in it?
ye
Ok
g
Done
Does anyone know why when I try to get something on the tec web every time it says āfailed_to_reachā?
Nothing is really happening it's just people claiming stuff to fast not a problem
This is after you corrected your system time?
restart game if it doesn't work power off ur oculus for a min then power on then retry
@quick osprey I lost my streak even tho you said I wouldnāt but I still have the 14 day streak badge
So what do I do
I couldnāt log in and when I fixed it I lost my streak
on moblie if you try to go to tutorial the game stops working
Nathan I think this bug might be happening because since this is a really big update maybe to much people got on as soon as the update came out and that is probably why @quick osprey
Same
@cedar igloo @empty lagoon @acoustic blade please make #š«āgeneral-support tickets I should be able to fix
yeah it's very sad but I will be fixing in a patch soon
Nathan did my streak restart
I updated it to 1.6.1 still wonāt work
@quick osprey
its works for me
Hmm this is a different issue related to your connection to the meta servers. Have you been able to get in before?
Omg you replied and yes I have been able to get in before I am making a cool map
Okay, has anything changed between the last time you were in and now? New WiFi, new location, etc
No
Okay, then my best advice for now would be to a) try again in little bit and b) try it on like a hotspot to see if the issue is related to your network
Ok @quick osprey also thank you so much for replying + how many downloads does the game have?
I donāt know Iām not really someone who checks the numbers
But weāre still relatively small despite what the discord numbers look like
Oh well thanks also yeeps is the best game in the world and you know the sign that says no pins just hangout I have it but I have the lime one @quick osprey
I donāt give out blocks lol
I know I was just telling you my favorite block is no pins just hangout
Lol fair enough
Can you post a new video on the official yeeps channel I am subbed
I donāt post on it, but there are videos every BAM and shorts every so often
Also as a courtesy you shouldnāt ping me unless youāve got an urgent issue
Otherwise itās not fair to the wider community
Oh sorry for pining you and also thanks so much for replying
Ok
@quick osprey I know the problem
He fixed it fyi.
please update the mobile app to 1.6.0
Ok
Hi Nathan
oh fudge not nullref
Nathan can I have lab rat
Dont Ask
Thereās applications for that
still not working for me on the vr
#1228024683996119090 and next time use #šć»report-bugs also restart your game
Hey Nathan can I have my login streak back it was at like 25 or 26
?
Lol yeah just donāt go into the tutorial for now until the patch comes out
restart game that is a meta problem
not game sry headaet
Did you say itās fixed or no
The mobile one is fixed as long as you a) update and b) donāt go into tutorial until the patch comes out
Ah ok
ok lol
ok
ptsd
You need to correct your device system time
Iād need to see a screenshot of yours
it was
Hello
Hey I canāt log in just wondering if I will have cc taken due to missing my video deadline
Hereās a picture
How?
go into your system settings, then look for a time section
also you won't lose CC for missing the challenge you just might miss rewards
Awesome
What do I have to change from there?
I figured it out
Thanks a ton bro š
Mine is different
can you send a screenshot
When I try to take a picture of it, it wonāt let me like I reload my MetaQuest app and the picture is not there so Iām just recreating it
š
Now I got it
i think i got this bug, but its just the trass games logo and 3 loading dots below it.
it happens with every single other games i play too
just 3 loading dots that won't load
So like will I be able to play tmr? (I also have this problem)
Try checkimg your internet. Last time I got this, my internet router bugged out
Like it was one was
less
But I kinda have this issue with every single game I have
me too
But 3 āloadingā dots.
Bro, that also happens to me and it also loads me in tutorial
And it says incorrect Device time.
If it says incorrect device time then for better or worse you have to do something about your system time
Itās currently out of our control as it just means the servers we use are rejecting your system time for whatever reason
Ah thatās something else. Usually that means somethingās up with the headset so Iād recommend either restarting the headset or uninstalling the game (you wonāt lose any progress) or both
im getting it even tho I updated my app (mobile app via android)
i had to use bluestacks
which is poopy doopy
and so I couldn't post
:(
i bought the yeeps pack
Same
I have did both of them before, didnāt work, so I donāt know what to do now. /:
it work smoothly yesterday in the night
so ima hop on now and try
It worked!
Oh sorry for pining you and also thanks so much for replying