#Remove the Lab Rat badge
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Why do labrats even need to verify themselves
idk honestly
Thatâs true, there needs to be a more thorough check because the lab rats may not be as important but they are still representing the game, so it is stupid that so
Many are underaged
the point is that most lab rats spread false info
yes I think I know one that is underage as well
Not, ALL, you have to add that dude
Who?
But enough do
Thank you đ
FrostyVrGt, he sounds like he is 9 or something
I donât, my friend TMK doesnât, etc, so itâs not fair for those who do post actual info
I donât know him so idk đ
if you look at his trolling as lab rat video
he has a baby voice
Those vids are SO STUPID
Thatâs how things work. People has to for what other people have done.
they think they are funny when they ARE NOT
I didnt even make a video when I got lab rat
I think lab rats that post false info should get a warning
It doesnât say your a labrat on my end
Facts
im not
Then what did you mean here?
For sure dude
what?
Oh I thought you were serious đ
Nothing
this is when I first got lab rat
I did quit bro
Oh
it was a joke đ đ
I know, just tought the edit was funny
?
I might know an uderage cc too
I just realized T1m3r is a jr. mod too
prolly most of the people in here didnt read that paragraph, including me
I will say tho, SOME LR spread false stuff, but they also say that cc lab rats are not ârealâ, lab rats. Which their reason is people put zero effort into vids. But I take up HALF MY DAYS planning, drawing my thumbnails, editing. Etc. so I think itâs a bit unfair the hate we get
Dude really? đ
Okay fair enough
I put so much effort into my videos and shorts
I met someone who genuinely believed that they added a gun that kicked you from the game
I used to not tho because I was stupid
Thats stupid
I know
lemme guess, a lab rat told them that
Probably yes
Probably
The worst thing is that I couldnât convince him otherwise
but I try to give them the info I can and if I donât know then I tell them I donât know, or try to give them my best guess, are you at least grateful for that?
yeah
So we good?
I know that like 99 percent of lab rats are good and doesnât spread false info, but that one percent is ruining for everyone
it got deleted
How
yes
maybe emojis idk
Wait, isnât this just a recreation of the internet??? A whole bunch of toxic people and a few good apples?
I got someone banned when I was lab rat
But the toxic people are running it for the good apples
How??
he was telling people to you know what and I got it on recording
Great job dude!
bro got banned almost instanly
for some reason he said it right before he left
but he made the mistake of me getting his name
This little kid was screaming the not so funny word with a double g in it to EVERYONE IN A SERVER. But left seconds after I joined so I couldnât do anything
Why???
I like how this was a conversation about the lr badge and now we talking about people getting banned lol
because I wrote a report
Mods were online probably
We are still on topic, just a different part of the topic
So?
true true true
wdym so?
When I report I have to wait like 16 hours before anyone replies
Why would that get you banned
Oh yeah you quit I forgot
I love how I was gunna go animate a meme and then I got wrapped up in this đ
lol
you can go do that cause I am gonna go now
Aight, I hope this all gets sorted out
yeah
r e a d t h e p o s t
do u think he didnt say why
I understand your concern tim3r and I agree, I try to be as honest as possible and even as a lab rat I have made some mistakes. I think this is something to take into consideration but there are many lab rats out there that wear the badge to show that if people want to ask about the update, they are there to speak. Iâm not sure which side I am on but tim3r, your concern is very real.
we should just ban people who spread misinformation
T1m3r wasnât talking about the attention surrounding them, mostly what the lab rats do with their âpowerâ which is mostly misinformation apparently
read the post its not abt the attention
a younger audience sees them as a developer level player
Itâs about the fact that they spread false info, and a badge is unnecessary
Yeah itâs a bit stupid
ikr
Not all do tho
yea just the ones that do suck
"u can get banned for lime blocks"
They should remove labrats who spread misinformation but it would be hard to get them caught
I walked into a server where a guy was saying empty was a ghost and he could ban you like the stupid daisy09 stuff
lab rats should be held to a higher standard kd all
bru exactly i met one talking abt a gtag crossover
There should be more backround checks and maybe a higher age limit
I think the reason why is because for one, they are beta testers, so they think they know more
the age limit is bypassable bc lies
It wouldnât matter if it was 18+, people would still lie
Ask for some form of id or something
no its just bc they have a role and nobody else does so they must be higher up
This isnât the gov
i dont have an id đ
Video call?
You do
i think thats a little private
where
Ye
That wouldnât work for people who arenât comfortable showing their face
Everyone has some form of id if you live in a country
ive never seen mine đ
Iâd say âdrivers licenseâ but thatâs more for 16+
Have you ever went to another country?
thats a passport
I donât think Nathan or anyone is THAT deep into it to check EVERYONES PASSPORTS
That is a form of id
what collin said
This isnt about verifying i was just telling him he definetly has some form of id
"hey mom can i show my passport to an adult man on the internet so i can become a rat" like hell no
Ik
But still they should do more backround checks
yea obv
Though if your parents donât allow you, you shouldnât anyway
Ye if your parents dont let them do a backround check you shouldnt be able to apply
I feel like this is getting out of hand, NORMAL PLAYERS spread false info, though people believe LR more, it STILL HAPPENS nonetheless
Ik this is an invasion of privacy but they should check in on labrats to see if they are abusing roles and things
Ye
I do feel like there needs to be an age verification
I donât want little Timmy banning a bunch of people đ
Trash idea
The comments are just lab rats
Why
A lot of lab rats are arrogant because they have the badge, and think they are better. We donât need more that early access to updates
No
Maybe they should get a way to turn it off at least
They can take it off, thatâs just not the problem
Ooh
Four pfp
Yes
BFDI
Wait can they turn it off on the leaderborad?
Yes
Ok then
Bruh...
Why do you want the badge?
(Not to be rude, Iâm just genuinely curious)
The thing is the people who wear the badge just do it for attention.
Yeah, we are not mods, we donât need confirmation.
Straight facts
You donât really need to show that youâre a lab rat
If he didnât he would just take off the badge
But he doesnât need to show he is a lab rat
Why not?
It doesnât matter because lab rats are here to beta test we really didnât need the cosmetic to begin with
They beta test wich help glitches get out the game so when the update comes out there is no one abusing them
And the badge basically symbolizes who help the glitches get out of the game
But we donât need to prove that we are helping the game, majority of the people who wear the badge get attention either on purpose or on accident which just makes it seem like lab rats are better than them.
But if u donât want the attention take it off your making it a huge deal dude
It makes it seem like some people are just better than the average player, we donât need to make it seem like some people are better than others.
Most donât even help
But some donât
I didnât mean to start a heated argument. No oneâs opinion is going to change. Canât we just settle down.
Real
I do thatâs. Why I use it
I agree
No need to be toxic, relax guys. Everyone
have a formal debate dont make it personal
Ye can we all just agree both of you make valid points and move on
Oh hey Billy the loudhouse thing is real btw
you're joking
đ
Apparently 5-10 pages are just the names of characters they used from other series
Just donât wear it
Why not I like read suggestions
Oh the longest piece of literature?
Because isnât it like some weird self insert fan fiction or something
Idk I heard of it playing TFVR
i think it would be better if you could toggle it on or off in yeeps and discord
bro read the first message of this thread
Thereâs over 1000đđ
messages
My friend is 7 and he has lab rat
I wear it, I just wear it so people can know they can ask me questions because I give honest answers
So basically they say people hog attention with it and spread misinformation
So âMOSTâ, you have to add that
Cause not all are bad
Fr
Ik
Original Message
EXACTLY
Yea
It will make it easier if anything
There not gonna take it away anyways.
Thatâs what I said multiple times
Shouldnât be
Yeah but you canât stop it, it is always gunna be there
You can calm it down, but I donât think itâs gonna be gone anytime soon
You can just tap the top of your screen (on mobile)
yeah, just keep
Iâm not saying you are a bad lab rat, but wonât that encourage other people who really donât care, to become lab rat to be able to flex on others?
Bro, you are clearly not mature for labrat if you wanna flex it.
Omg are people still arguing here?
Yeah
oof
I just realized this was the same guy who kept on saying âwhen do ccs get labratâ
And Iâm not surprised this is a CC labrat
@elfin minnow
Why did you do the skull emoji
You donât even have labrat
This doesnât effect you in any way
yu friends with a 7 year old
crazy
Some people just be roasting themselves in here ngl
Just curious question, what is his oculus username?
đđ
@jaunty edge You are a lab rat and a Jr mod.
Why are you friends with a seven year old? I believe you may be underage
(ur bio)
Omg so basically I have to follow god damn school rules on discord
nah its just immature not to know grammar
He is my cousins friend so I met him when I was going to my cousins house
also its not school rules its conventional grammar đ
According to my school is
yea u sound very underaged sorry but im not changing my mind
exactly đ
Just bc it's in your school rules doesn't mean it's only in your school
Doesn't mean I have to follow either way
What you mean don't need grammar
Whereâd this argument come from again?
@stoic herald
(That was a joke)
Your cousinâs friend had a worthy application I guess, good on them
It's not a joke it's my cousin's friend and then I met him when my cousin invited him
???
?
I was talking about what I said before
Oh mb
t1m3r im waiting
Okay I just woke up and scrolled through everything. Nobody had even remotely tried to address what I said.
Here were the main arguments:
-
If you donât like it take it off
This argument reveals that the people who hold its position have no idea what theyâre talking about, and most definitely did not read anything in my opening statement. -
I like it
I like it too, however, our personal opinions are irrelevant. Weâre discussing the impact that the badge has on the community, and whether itâs worth keeping in the game. -
ad hominem responses
Donât be immature. Insulting me directly instead of addressing the points that I make shows me that you are not respectful enough to discuss reasonably with other people. It is also a clear sign that the position I hold and the arguments I made are so solid that many of you could not fathom constructing a counter argument. Yay for me
I would attempt to address the single good criticism I received, but I can no longer find it beneath all the toxic comments made in here.
I donât care about how people perceive me. Its a damn good suggestion, and judging by the amount of lab rats who want to keep it, Iâd say the problem is worse than I thought.
Please expand on your third point đ
Yâall fighting over a suggestion is crazy
i could care less about the badge tbh
Dumb idea
Removing it is the more logical option
Bomba
If youâre going to go on about âuseless suggestionsâ go tell off these ones, not this.
https://discord.com/channels/1197017602292207666/1259211252488732774
https://discord.com/channels/1197017602292207666/1254569744498036786
And some other dumb ones not this
Remember that as labrats you are meant to uphold the community standards!
This is funny as it proves the point of the lab rat community they do not respond to anything unless they have to be directly involved to hold onto the shred of power they hold
How about we stop arguing and talk about this in a civil manner?
man i feel like this lab rat badge has no use so i think this is goodđ
After all, you guys are meant to treat people with respect
Thatâs what arguing is. A slightly heated debate is good, as long as it doesnât devolve into a fight
Have you read the actual thing I'm just asking and not trying to start an argument
I honestly like this idea, it provides a good point. Though i doubt it would end up being removed
I don't see why it needs to be removed personally
I think it's fine
Also not like you need to wear it
no sadly not as i a
have not yet scrolled up all the way but i was just going to why tho?
And to be fair, literally every interaction Iâve seen with a new lab rat is just them flexing it
i think he has a point 100%
I can see where youâre coming from. I spoke out of frustration, due to a concerning backlash from a majority of people, lab rats included.
I called it a âdamn good suggestionâ, not just because Im self glazing, but also because many of the people I surround myself with understand the impact that this badge has on the community, and I have had many conversations with such people in order to develop my points.
Now, back to the topic at hand. There is no reason for people to lie about being a lab rat if they had no perceived authority. Removing the badge takes away that barrier between them and the community, providing everyone with equal footing. Even if people decided to impersonate, the collective community would not believe them, nor care, because they have no perceived authority.
it looks cool
Bro cut the yapđ
You are speaking like a Victorian era queen
Me too
Have you ever written more than 2 sentences before?
Yes but you are literally expanding what could have been 2 sentences into a 2 page essay
Half of the words you used are completely unnecessary
I get looking professional and all, but damn Daniel
That's a lot of words
I feel like labrat badge should be only given to like trusted labrats
As probably one of the only people who has read it I agree with you as most people are deviating from the original argument
That exactly why he should lessen the amount of words he uses, causes people to not want to read the message
Go back to tiktok
People lazy asl
Iâm looking for someone who can read and understand my points without agreeing with me, but itâs kinda hard lol
This suggestion is honestly good. Considering how easy it is it get lab rat now it allows more unqualified individuals in, understandably the devs want all types of lab rats, content creators, people who send feedback, etc. but this really just show how much of an issue this really is. Sense most lab rats now came in with little effort and qualification
I read and understand your points perfectly but you use a lot of words đ
the badge looks cool tho
Delete this. Itâs not just irrelevant, but itâs also ableist.
whatâs wrong with funny meme
i do agree i just saw #đă»lab-rats-only being filled with âwhen do i get badgeâ after the last lab rat application i 100% agree
Fully corrupt
I don't honestly see it getting removed any time soon
Iâll still delete it ig
no but i feel like it would do a lot of good for the community
Yeah 100%
kids would get mad
#đă»lab-rats-only was just filled with âwhen do i get the badgeâ after the last lab rat applications
itâd be an aight change that I could deal with cuz it doesnât affect me but the children would have absolute uproar about their funny zippers
You aren't even labrat lol how does it getting removed remotely affect you??
it donât
Yeah it was like their only worry whenever they got the role
but he said itâs make the community better
they would be really mad but just like the devs have said âit is not a special clubâ
Yes
True
To summarize (for the low attention spans out there) the initial argument highlights the issues of the labrat badge being used to boast and brag, as well as having no value to the player base whatsoever, almost glazing or putting labrats on a high pedestal
That basically sums it up, but I would like to make a correction:
The badge has no true value or purpose, but it does have a very high perceived value
I swear, people treat labrats like moderators
I treat moderators like normal people tho
After about the 4th time of seeing a labrat In game it gets boring
labrat badge would still be cool people just need to understand we are just beta testers Everytime someone talks about labrat I say it's just beta test
I donât treat Moderators any differently, I donât think Iâd want to be crowded by plushies if I were a mod
Plus labrats get swarmed dude
Better, even. Not everyone knows what the moderator badge is, but everyone knows what a lab rat looks like.
Fr like bro. It's a beta tester and people act like they have some kind of authority
I treat them so normally I got banned by one
ye when i first got lab rat i was honestly flabbergasted by the amount of people thinking i was a dev or a mod but i am not supposed as not the entire community is in the discord but i totally agree with you
They got banned dw
Reminds me of when the game first came out little kids saw alpha testers as how new players see lab rats
Like seeing a labrat in game should be a "oh nice!" Not a "HOLY FLIP"
Real
alpha tester cap is cool I want
seeing a labrat should be âwelcome to the serverâ like every other person instead of âITS THE LORD AND SAVIOURâ
Iâd just treat labrat like players
Real
Dang this argument hit the roof
want popcorn
What do you mean lol
It really seems like the younger lab rats are the ones who are currupt
The amount of messages
Went through the roof
1,300
replace labrat badge with jr mod badge?
Kitty cat
Dude my suggestion is so heated for no reason đ people hate femboys ig
Yeah yeah I donât know half of what happened cause it blew up while I was asleep, but I responded to most of the points that people made so itâs fine đ
Where???
#1251237681267081336
Thanks
We have the Lab if we want to meet other lab rats
So the thing is, how will the badge removal combat misinformation
Some Lab rats spread misinformation.
And how will the removal stop them?
It would lower lab rats back down to where they actually should be in the totem pole of hierarchy. Theyâd stop being as believable since the praise and trust comes mostly from the badge.
If you say you're a lab rat, people will belive you
Most don't know about the badge
As someone said we should have trusted lab rats and untrusted the trusted have badges untrusted don't
In the game you get laboratory icon next to your name
How I'd do it is by a mod monitoring you for a week or so
Lab rat icon*
tthey do NOT have that many mods đ
And part of being a lr is to give hints on the new upd
1 part if it
Bro itâs an easy fix. If there is a lab rat gloating about have the badge and other stuff, report them. Mods or devs or whatever should get getting rid of/taking all of there privileges away.
There is no reason to show that youâre a lab rat
lab rats only need to have access to early upd
Yes
If u don't want attention then don't wear it
read anything ever in this post
Bro on leaderboard you still get a tag to your name
To show that you know what the new update is, letting you spread hype and excitement
for the last goddamn time the attention isnt the issue
no thats what ccs are for
theyre beta testers not advertisers
If you need to know what the next update is just look it up.
To show the update early
Dearest everyone it seems people have forgotten the topic of the suggestion such as @fading vapor this means people have not read it (sorry for picking you outđ„ș)
yea its the reason they get lab rat
Hey be kind, they were just addressing your point. Weâre all discussing the same issue here
Most of the playerbase wnt know about discord, since they're under 9 years old most of the time
ccs arent in discord theyre in yt
Ik
ccs are for spreading hype not lab rats
So then remove lr and give beta testing to ccs
How does the badge annoy you if u don't even have it
no ccs are beta testers, they point out bugs
Thereâs still more thought and energy put into this suggestion than most Iâve seen, and there might actually be a good outcome either way this suggestion comes out.
Lab rats find bugs and spread hype about the update early with leaks
lrs*
I wanna get exited about the upd
lab rats find bugs, thats it, cc lab rats spread hype, not regular lab rats
This is the point âïž
Did you read my opening statement? Iâd like everyone to read it before jumping in on the conversation!
Oh I thought you were talking about reg cc mb
There is a point
o fair
This post is not useless, he is suggesting something to the devs
Lrs see the upd to find bugs, and giving out info to those who don't watch yt or use discord is probably a big part
well its not their job either way
Labrats are mostly corrupt there is no other way of saying it so there should be an age verification
We just keep talking in circles
their job is to beta test and thats it, anything else they do is on their own accord
Especially when someone else says âjust take the badge offâ
Ik but wearing the badge and gloating and spreading misinformation ate also of their own accord
They obviously didn't read it
yea thats another issue but not the one we're talking abt
Then why argue about it?
no
Itâs a concerningly high amount of people doing so, and having perceived authority is the stepping stone that allows people to spread misinformation so efficiently.
Is it reportable/bannable when a lr boasts? Genuine question
we werent arguing abt it thats my point
i think so
if not it should be
It should be a warn at least, but it is not
But then how will the badge removal affect the spread of misinformation?
đ€we are agreeing and disagreeing
@jaunty edge What have you created
Ye
so u only trust video proof from cc lab rats (which is what theyre meant to do)
So then don't trust lr
"when everyones super no one will be"
Without perceived authority, nobody would care to listen, and the spread of misinformation would either be slowed to a crawl or cut off entirely.
Syndrome nooooo
But you can just say you are a lr and they will belive you
finally someone gets the quote
no they wont bc nobodys a lr
Will they? Not without the badge.
Kids are gullible
if they trust u they trust everyone
But it would matter way less if they did believe
if theres no badge, everything is questionable and suspicious
Yeah but the majority are over 13, they are less impressionable.
They wouldn't know that though, it's someone who seems important and therefore trustable in a child's eyes
debatable but ok
I don't think that's true
if i told you i was a lab rat they wouldnt know what it is
Say you can se the next upd
i dont tell anyone abt the next upd
Bro that sucks
thats what i do
But others do
dont interject urself into this
this is a dumb idea
ok well thats their thing
Yes it's a mess as is
Hey dude, not cool. This is an open discussion and weâre here to be respectful and share our thoughts.
And if it's their thing why stop them from spreading hype?
Fr Thank you
Iâd love for you to elaborate
nobodys stopping them
I like the badge and i think it apart of the code
You just gave a list of reasons why they should be supposed though
Being in the code doesnât change much
so when it a update they know who can have access to it
the thing is if you're in a world where the badge never existed you can trust everyone the same ammount because theres no proof of being a lab rat
I'll be off for 6 hours can someone sum up what's going to happen
Exactlu
Ah that makes more sense yeah
???
&ly
Content creator lab rats are here to spread hype on their socials. Everything to do with regular lab rats happens behind closed doors, so thereâs no reason for them to tell people outside of the program.
yea they can do that
thats allowed
not enforced tho
Then why stop them?
why shouldnt they
the badge removal makes everyone trustable
Cap
So everyone can spread misinformation
It makes us all on the same level of trustiness
(including lab rats, which would fix that problem bc nobody would believe them)
Sure, we can do what they want. I donât need to tell people Iâm a Jr. Mod, but there is nothing stopping me. The problem is the attention they receive from being a lab rat, and the way that bad actors could misuse that power.
Does it matter so much to you about other people having a badge
yea thats what i meant to sya
say*
And removing it would also help the actors
yea it puts everyone at the same level
Hold on
i forget how but theres a way to let certain users have access to a different version of the game using their oculus name so removing the badge wouldn't affect that
Lab rats.
ik how to put this
Because labrats decide to spread false info and people believe them just as they have a badge. Another point is people only want to apply for the badge and not only help the devs.
So the lr are acting like lr or acting the misinfo
i dont
?
others do
Doesnt matter if you do or dont alot of them do
Wrong guy my bad
Well then good for you, if this gets accepted then nothing will change for you
yep
But @teal hollow you would change you mind if you got lab rat
Lab-rats donât need a badge anyway. Why do they need to prove their identity.
nope
If they want to spread info
itd be fun to have for 5 minutes
You donât need to. All it takes is one lab rat to say the wrong thing, and rumours spread like wildfire. Thatâs why people think unobtainable items are bannable, because lab rats were threading to ban people who held them.
tell them to look it up on youtube as proof (if they removed badge)
its video proof
bc they have lab rat and record videos of it
honestly when people ask me if things are ban able they just blame it on their friends ive never seen someone blame it on a lr
i think the gyatt block ban myth started from lr
What about the group that has no yt? That's the group that would start rumors
yea and they get shut down bc theres way less of them
You know what there probably going to take lab rat away when it release on a full game
i mean u have a quest headset you prob also have yt
No they wonât
Research
Theyâll still need testers for new updates so prob not
Oh
POV labrat finding out that they don't have to tell people that they have labrat
and then those kids look on yt and see a yt short that corrects them
not what the post is abt
well i do think they are adding Way to many lab rat like 893 Is crazy tho
And more examples are âmode get cheeseâ and âlabrats get everything in the gameâ
Have you read the opening statement? If not, please do so before joining in on conversation!
no
not how it works
So it's true, righr?
There is something called, NOT WEARING IT.
Please read the WHOLE first message
Feel free to actually read the paragraph you replied to. đ
Circles, circles, circles everywhere...
look kids that dont have yt might believe whatever they hear but that is a whole of 8 people and nobodys believing them by the time they spread misinfo bc theyve heard otherwise at that point
Bro just take off the badge it ez
read opening statement in the post pal
Again, please actually read the first message.
Btw @teal hollow i like your pfp
ty đ
Yw
I don't watch yeep ccs, what about the group that doesn't watch them? Or these that don't care and have blind trust, etc
Rumours will still spread, of course they will. Removal of the badge just serves to remove the underlying stigma surrounding lab rats, and stops them from being seen as role models. This will stop the craziness of the rumours that have sprung up recently.
it doesnt matter in the end, it doesnt change the update itself
misinfo abt the upd its a problem really
On the second paragraph your acting like theyâre some kind of communist, not be disrespectful but I just found it funny
So then instead of removing the badge, use the badge to stop misinformation
misinfo doesnt matter unless its not abt the upd in which case the badge causes it
So then there's no point to remove it.
What doesn't have to do withe the upd?
Ghost stories?
Iâm a communist. Political ideology has nothing to do with this discussion.
gyatt block is banable, mods have lime paintbrush, etc
And who does that hurt?
the people who wanted to collect bu heard otherwise
Just take off the badge boom no attention
rare blocks
get out đ
And how bad does it hurt them when they realize mods don't have lime brush?
Ngl yâall really going against each other over a badge in a video game
Ik
how bad does it hurt them when they realize the upd they heard of was misinfo?
Us, the mods, who have to deal with false report after false report against people holding unobtainable items, which slow us down from taking action against the people who are actually breaking the rules.
damn didnt think of that
"Aw man I really wanted the gravity toggler!" Then they move on
The post is about haveing the labrat and it giveing unwanted attention just take of the Badge bro
Read opening post
so u agree ur point was wrong abt the whole misinfo abt upds
Except itâs not. Read more than the first paragraph please.
The misinformation can do countered and then those who belive it will be disappointed fir a minute or 2
See
exactly so what was this part of ur argument abt
Cool. Keep reading.
i just come here to see the arguments
Thats 1 out of MANY reasons. Please learn to read a whole paragraph before making assumptions đ
Wdym? The rumors will just be a blip or smth or the start a a new item anyways
its much more fun to watch when theres a open pride post
what?
Yeah I 100% agree
can u repeat that pls
I think everyone who downvoted this are just seeking validation with the badge
ty eggester
The rumors don't hurt anyone anyways, and the badge removal won't do anything about it
And thus shouldn't be a lab rat

Let them be proud
Who cares
if i was misinformed abt rare blocks being bannable i wouldnt have built this
im honestly mixed on this
Apart from how I previously explained that it did hurt, and also apart from how I previously explained that it would do something about it.
also i spend most of my time trading and building on this so it does matter to me
Ok
if i was misinformed id probably quit
Then correct them and say they aren't bannable
so thise rumors that are believable hurt
ive tried
they dont listen
Then show them the badge
We do, I remember last week some lab rat was asked by a new player what lb is and he said "It means I'm a moderator/ beta tester" , that's just blatant misinformation.
the badge doesnt do anything
It gets the some people's heads, that's why they shouldn't be given a badge
Then tell them that it's wrong
It's not like it's needed for people to recognise they're a lab rat
We canât tell everyone ever, every single time people say that.
Thus post us about how the badge shows authority
listen like you're saying we're going in massive circles and im tured of it
Me to
ima go play Phighting
Realest point ever. Do they really have to prove that they test a game lol
i'll try but no guaruntees đ
thank you @jaunty edge for keeping this post on topic and civilized for this servers standards
I'll try talk to the devs about this
i mean its kinda understandable why it needs to be removed
Who gave him the lime green brush
I think that the badge certainly causes more bad than good
Magician, you have said that we keep going around in circles, but after looking at your points I think youâre the one who keeps bringing them up after people attempt to dissect them.
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Mods have to deal with false report after false report against people holding unobtainable items, which slow us down from taking action against the people who are actually breaking the rules.
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Without the misguided trust put on lab rats by the hands of the community, we wouldnât have so much misinformation spread everywhere.
Removal of the badge removes the perceived authority that allows bad actors to take advantage of the community, and also reduces the amount of false reports given to us.
Thank you for being understandinâ đ
Thereâs a concerning majority who disagree
this is pretty fair
That is really true but it still does good
the badge cause both good and bad
I donât disagree but I like the badge lol
Like?
same
You know now that I think about it nvm lab rats just bully non lab rats for not having it
what
I agree with you T1m3r
Or use it to spread misinformation most commonly
Ppl also think weâre mods lol
Thatâs true itâs just a bully tool now
I've never seen the LabRat badge be used in a good way
Not ture
I reckon the devs wont remove it but mabye take the leaderboard logo away
Or just take it off...
But i hope they do
ive seen it happen in the discord 
I would also ask if you could bring up some other points, because removing the badge isnât the only problem with the program.
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I recommend adding a specialised rules list for lab rats, because âuphold the guidelines to a higher standardâ apparently doesnât cut it for most people.
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Content Creator lab rats should also need to apply after completing the three challenges. This would filter out the immature and underage content creators.
That would be good
Noo that's funny
Please learn to read the WHOLE of the first message
đ€Šââïž
I've been told so many times that people just want to have labrat for the badge
100% agree
my point still stands
And that gets rid of the whole purpose of labrats
The first message wasnât even about not wanting attention, but I did throw that in there as a side note, which is why it is in brackets. The main point of that first argument is me outlining a major factor in what what convinces people to apply for lab rat;
the attention that they receive from the role.
Also i just disagree in total honestly
i only signed up for lr since iâve tested vr before 
Whyâs that? Iâd love to hear your thoughts
the people doing it for attention is a problematic part
thats why i thinks the application needs questions about that stuff
okay yeah those people do suck i agree
but the badge shows what help you give to the devs as u beta test n stuffs
I agree and disagree at the same time. I like the badge, I like how it looks. I like how it shows who you are. But I hate the fact that people think that they have power with it on.
True and I would be pretty sad if they removed it
and it's js cool looking imo, but still people who just want the badge still suck
Like T1m3r said, why do you need to prove that you're a labrat?
I agree with both your points. The cosmetic looks cool, but in the long run, it does more harm than good.
I don't want the badge honestly i just wanna see updates early
ye and i got to say tbh that after they accepted multiple hundred lab rats that the amount of people in the lab version looked to be pretty much the same
yeah
Thatâs exactly what being a lab rat should be.
yeah i agree but i still think the badge has actual worth than just "oh it looks cool and is a badge"
#gimmelabratiwannaseeupdatesearlywaaaa
There are only a few downsides to removing the badge. One, people who applied for labrat just for the badge would most likely quit, which is a lot of them, meaning we lose more labrats. Two, people who only want the badge won't apply, meaning less labrats joining. But losing the people who only want the badge is way more beneficial for the program because that's not what it's about
And I guess people who just liked the badge, but true labrats won't care that much
I would understand that if our position required more of an active role in the community. The program works behind the scenes, on the back end of updates, so thereâs no reason for lab rats to haves such an influence over others.
i don't want the badge, i want PONGLE
tbh its fair why it needs to be removed
it has alot of flaws
and so does the application
Replace the labrat badge with pongle and make me a labrat fr đđ
The devs are discussing it rn, it seems they're not quite sure of what to do about it, since they like the aspect of showing someone's achievement in the Community
But it's likely something happens
my argument exactly
i mean dats fair
Their achievement is helping out the community in their own way
And that should mean something
I get where theyâre coming from, but something still needs to be done. I donât particularly care about how we solve this issue, but my suggestion has done so, and If they can think of another way, that works perfectly fine with me đ
@jaunty edge Would it be understandable if labrats should have some type of requirement before getting the badge?
That would just elevate the value of the badge itself
Yeah, I can see that creating a worse issue lol
bro got soo much traffic here
make labrats do certain things before actually getting labrat perchance?
Lab rats thinking they're better than other lab rats
im better than absolutely nothing
@jaunty edge I really agree with this, what about of the lab vile just stay on the leader board and no badge what do you think of that
Some labrats, after getting the badge just don't do anything after that
I like to pretend I'm a labrat sometimes, just makes me feel nice 
Labrats who think they're better than everyone who isn't a labrat

Yeah to be clear @little wadi captured most of my baseline thoughts (here #1258915349274034186 message ) but itâs something weâre talking about and have discussed as far back as the first wave or LRs
Main points from my side:
- the badge offers strong iconography for the program, and ensures that the wider community knows that LRs exist
- serves as a pull into the discord and a reason to become a more active member, assuming LRs are well behaved
- in an ideal world (not the one we have) the badge is something that people can be proud of
I see removing the badge as an easy solution but also as a last resort/extreme solution that only makes sense if weâve exhausted any other alternatives
Your one contribution to this thread
real?
I thought I talked in it earlier
But this is on our radar and idk when weâll get back to it since obv we have store launch first, but we know of the issues
I didn't see đ
For me thatâs confusing idk why are you saying that you remove all labs expet for the first wave?
Will actions be taken after the launch?
No Iâm saying we talked about concerns with the badge as far back as when the program started
Can I have a block with my name on it đč
Ohh ok thanks for marking the more simple lol
So itâs not something weâre ignoring itâs just something weâve been watching play out
Uhhh
It would be cool đ€
Yeah idk
No
Please don't đ
Don't talk in this channel if you just wanna talk with nathan
Nathans my favorite developer
Aw âčïž
I was also here to say smth but hit distracted
It's not much of contest when hes the only one talking ig
Like I was in server someone with LR was having people do stuff for him just bc he LR and he kept saying he was better than everyone
But like in those cases Iâd almost just say we just remove those people from the program lol
While store launch is important, I think that an overhaul of the program would be beneficial before the launch. With a boost in the gameâs popularity, these new players would have to learn and understand the game and itâs community, serving to further promote alleged hierarchy present between lab rats and regular players by putting lab rats in the spotlight.
I donât know if we can make the change before launch regardless
Fair but if no badge they canât prove they LR so people wonât believe them
Yes please do lol
Doesnât really change the fact that the person shouldnât be a LR
Yeah they can't make changes before launch lol
Yeah good point
Anyways we havenât even talked about it as a team
We missed a Christmas update in gog because of that
So my thoughts are not necessarily reflective of the final stance
Wasnt santa drip added
Will the next pack be revolved around store launch or like a different theme
No. We didn't even have a shop back than
Things change, new points are brought up, and maybe my points in the pinned comment will be reversed
Ohh the first christmass update Lol
While the game cannot be changed before launch, can the programs you offer be?
They would have to remove badges from a lot of people tho
they could just delete it
But idk if itâs that big of a change
I'm pretty sure that can be done relatively easily
Yes it can be done if necessary
Letâs go Nathan
But its frowned upon to make any changes after testing is complete on the release version, server changes or otherwise
You could wait until itâs store released
I see
Especially when removing a feature so I understand even though I want it to stay
Did you see this @fading pebble ?
I assume thereâd be a lot of discussion necessary before moving forward, but I forgot about the hard cap on changes to the game in the moments before official launch.
Havenât read through this in its entirety honestly
But yes, I mean one thing that I think is frankly easier is just telling people more outright what they shouldnât be doing and just taking action against bad LRs
Badge or no, they shouldnât be in the program
Agreed
But Iâm not going to get too deep into this rn
You could let mc start removing lab rats, although that would be a tonne of work
Maybe you could do like a monthly cosmetic like CC for trusted LR, but it still might happen
Yep that could happen
Which does suck
As I said, things change when the whole team gets involved so what I say now wonât necessarily be the final decision
Steve got the final say
Lol
elaborate on trusted
Youâre my favorite developer Nathan!
i saw what was deleted
Who me?
Nuh uh
No proof
the proof is peepeepoopoo
Shoot
ermmmmmmmmmm
You guys saw nothing
if ypu dont like the idea, you shouldnt have lab rat if you donât know what it takes to be a lab rat
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all the ccs are immature. Hell, id admit im pretty immature. but this topic that you are making is too controversial
The suggestion has its pros and cons, and the badge has its pros and cons as well.
I like pancakes đ„
yes exactly
100% agree with that
this post is like saying content creators shouldnât have the cc cosmetics
I agree with everything you said, when I go into disguise in wilds Ive seen many lab rats acting better than regular players with the badge and lab rats do not need to prove their a lab rat to begin with since itâs just beta testing updates
But then lab rat wouldnât mean literally nothing
It would mean testing updates

No it wouldnât. Lab rats responsibility is to test updates and find bugs (and majority of them donât do that anyway) not flexing their badge
I donât even flex my badge
i didnt mean to flex
My fit just looks better with it
I didnât mean it like that, you can wear the badge but as long as your not goin around acting better than everyone because of it
me neither but its a symbol to represent the people who have a bunch of responsibility
I know
thats the only way to properly use the badge. to have a symbol of respect and responsibility
getting rid of the badge will not show anything so i think we should keep it
i only use the badge to show that i am responsible not to brag
Thatâs how itâs supposed to be viewed but it seems many use it as a way to flex on players
then get rid of the labrats who do that. or add a rule to stop that
Or do that and delete the badge that isnt needed
You literally just said labrat would mean nothing if the badge was gone
this is what it says in the guide. â
We hold our Lab Rats to a higher standard, which means you are a representative of this game, so focus on being a positive presence no matter where you are.â
Both sides had its pros and cons, I am neutral in this discussion.
By higher standard they mean you have to be positive
And not that you're better
Exactly
whats happening
Being a good representative to players, and by flexing and acting better than them is not a good representation
Delete that
yes i know but again like i said, its not about flexing. its about showing the expertise that the lab rats have. so do the content creators, and mods
Itâs not about the expertise

We are currently talking about lab rats who use the badge as a way to seem better to players
Thatâs kinda what this whole thread was made for
well not all labrats do that
in that case
Yes, not all, but Iâve seen my fair share
Some, if not most.
what about ccs doing the same too
Content creator cosmetics are a bit different
they get cosmetics?
They have to work for a cosmetic
i guess thats true
yes
Yea you have to make 3/4 or 3/5 videos a month and you get an ingame cosmetic
Each week has a new topic
this thing is still going on lol. I went to a wedding and itâs still going on
Was the cake good
it is pretty controversial
Probably wonât end until itâs either removed or confirmed it wonât be removed
yeah lol
well technically Iâm about to go to the cake thingy
Both sides do have good points, but I feel like in order for some sort of identification, they would keep it. Itâs just my opinion though.
we just did the part where they get married lol
Real
nah but for real though
Thank you cat
Real
No gif perms for me đ
yes i dont wanna get mad at a silly little conversation
Too much sigma
ik đ
I watch your videos!
Thank u 
Can we stop talkin here for no reason
Without the badge it would just be a ton of people getting reported for âimpersonatingâ like mods do
Iâm not even a labrat and I donât like the badge looks but personally I think as a labrat it could still be used for proof
I just donât think there is a clear purpose to remove it that will not add more problems
Why do you need proof of being a lab rat?
Anyways I'll lock this thread for now nathan will talk with the team and he will make a decision
They ended up moving over to #đă»lab-rats-only
We should lock #đă»lab-rats-only
Put a 8 hour slowmode on 
Yall think I should reopen the thread?
Devs decision probably wont be affected by this anyway in the long run
Yeah but the talk is fun
I have awoken
I donât even know what Iâm on about Iâm not even gonna talk here
Plus maybe people will have new opinions after the announcement
Now we wait for people to find out itâs unlocked
It might be hard for a conversation to re-open
But ig that means there's no reason to keep it locked
So uh howâs your day been?
No
it is probably going to be crazy when people see this is opened again
Probably
What
Hello
Eggester whenâs fancyâs in yeeps
Same with Apple
Thatâs all the gog server is rn
Just apple vs fancy
Ik
I want apple and fancy
In yeeps
Fr
It ainât even gog anymore đ
Yes
Nah we should keepnthe stuff to gog
This server is far more reputable
Ok
True
How long do you think itâs gonna be until this forum goes to chaos again?
i will say probably 30 minutes to a hour
Idk soon
Probably when they add GoG ships to yeeps fr
I wants to see sigma conquest in yeeps fr
Whyâd they reopen it though
Conquest đđ
Fr fr fr
Idk
The buff made it even more op
With ships affected by the ability not being able to regain power until itâs over
Real
I like how this isnât even about the actual point of the forum
I just like how we talking GoG in yeeps
Real
Who wants to see my first animation that I just made in blender
Sure
Big w
almost 2000 messges
I peed my pants
đ
i eat sigmas for breakfast B)
vv
To be totally honest this should be reclosed.
It's only going to spark arguments and controversy in the community, and nobody's going to change their opinion.
Factual
Nobody really changes opinion around here
Yeah, just look at the time we wasted talking about this and no one thought anything new in the end.
And this doesn't affect half the people in here đŠ
To whoever reads this next,
Don't argue about it. Just go do something productive
(Like playing yeeps)
god of gravity good
Its the dude from the one god game
He said da fun word
Itâs the guy from YouTube
Fr
i feel you should keep it so if you donât want it just donât wear it other people have opinions too
Remove mod badge too lmao
Just take it off??
Yet another time someone clearly didnât read the opening message
Why
Pls read this #1258915349274034186 message
almost 2000 messages in 2 days wow
Crazy
The mod badge has an actual use
partially true
- mods donât power gloat over it
Ive never seen a mod
Doesnât particularly matter
?yeep
In the celestial ballet, yeeps defy gravity's embrace, detonating skybases with poetic precision.
yes im the 2000th message
Lol
Did he read the rules
