Changes to Moderation

[hard herald]

I don't think they need this

It's impossible for them to clear every message

People have stuff to do

Even if moderation was granted to the in game moderators, you could say the same for the discord aswell

If they did have permission they'd still not be able to verify that every message is good too.

[dawn rune]

They’re not going to clear every message, that’s not the point. It will however make it easier for mods to moderate regardless of what medium they’re using at the time.

[hard herald]

Yes but the other moderators already have to do their in game duties, or they probably face demotion.

Adding on server moderation would just be annoying and more of a workload

And

Some mods have both in game and server moderator roles so this is kinda of already there

If they wanted to moderate more they could ask for either roles

[dawn rune]

What? It’s not more of a workload. I don’t think you understand my point

[hard herald]

Wdym lol

They're moderating the discord

It is an extra workload

And they might have to do 11-20+ hours a week in the game or in the server

Dunno the exact amount

[dawn rune]

No

It’s neither an extra workload, nor are they required to do it.

[hard herald]

It is an extra workload, and they would probably be required to work sometime if they had the discord moderator role

[dawn rune]

No they wouldn’t. That’s what I’m saying.

If an in-game mod stopped by in the discord and saw something that broke community guidelines, they should be able to act quickly without needing to go through regular avenues to contact discord moderators. They’re already trusted members of the community, they should have the permissions to, if other people break community guidelines, punish those players accordingly.

That’s all it is, no extra workload required

[hard herald]

Then ping them?

And yes they would be required somewhat if they had the discord moderator role

Like giving them abilities to moderate is not what I'm against, it's just the fact that 1 missed message means the moderation isn't good enough with how it already is.

These are some of the most professional moderators I've ever seen before

if the moderation isn't good enough I don't know what will be.

And mod apps are out so that moderation in game is better, if they need discord moderators they'd probably do the same

[dawn rune]

Giving mods the ability to moderate regardless of what medium is the only thing I’m advocating for, and if you’re not against it then why are trying to argue?

[hard herald]

Because, the moderators have other jobs to do.

[dawn rune]

It would be unnecessary if a mod could just ban or mute that user, no need to ping

[hard herald]

What if a mod wasn't there

Then what do we do?

[dawn rune]

But if they do come across something inappropriate that isn’t in their jurisdiction, they should still be able to act on it.

[dawn rune]

That’s not a relevant hypothetical

[hard herald]

Then you report them?

They'll eventually get banned

[hard herald]

It is

It could be a common situation

[main sun]

Wouldn't this get rid of discord mod?

[hard herald]

Basically

Well

[dawn rune]

No it won’t??

[hard herald]

It would combine them

[dawn rune]

We’re talking about moderators, not casual users. It is a common situation yes, but in this case we would ping a mod and let them deal with it.

[main sun]

There would be no purpose of discord mod

[viscid topaz]

Trusting somebody in-game and on Discord are two different things

[dawn rune]

No it wouldn’t, mods would still focus on their area of expertise

[main sun]

Yea

[hard herald]

Then why not make discord moderators also in game moderators

[dawn rune]

What’s the difference?

[hard herald]

Then why not do that for the other problem

[dawn rune]

Would it not be easier for a mod to mute somebody rather than asking someone else to do it?

[hard herald]

It's not that hard to wait 10 seconds

[dawn rune]

The problem is that I’ve seen this issue first hand in the discord. An in-game mod was trying to mute somebody and it wasn’t working, and when he tried pinging the discord mods, they didn’t respond.

[hard herald]

People aren't going to die over seeing smth nsfw or just weird

[hard herald]

Then that's the discord mods being weird

You could apply the same to the game mods too

And that's where the different trusts of discord and game moderators split

[dawn rune]

It’s called child endangerment.

[dawn rune]

And I did.

[hard herald]

So the discord mods should become game moderators too?

[hard herald]

Still though, most people won't even see it.

It's inevitable to have weird people in communities who like to show children that.

[dawn rune]

No, the discord mods should maintain moderating on the discord, but if they ever play the game they should be able to punish players for breaking the rules.

[hard herald]

With reports

Which is what everyone else uses

I used to be a moderator for a game that gave us permissions to moderate a server

And it wasn't some small game either

It was a pretty popular recroom game that make us do 20 hours a week

Now double that with server moderation and you don't have much time

It was so stressful to me