Agatha All Along

[forest mesa]

I just realized

Why did lilla yell Jenifer look what ya did

[robust moon]

I still think Ms Hart has a bigger role

Bc they said that this episode would show Billy’s connection to each of the witches

And if Ms Hart wasn’t important they wouldn’t have shown her

[brisk ermine]

its Sharon All Along

[feral relic]

I really need a the whole Agatha cast to make an album covering songs

[sage drum]

Watched recent episode with my brother. I really relate Billy and Tommy to me and my brother so I get emotional but these episodes were so good

Like

I’ll just leave it at that

I was sobbing nonstop from the ba mitzvah to Agatha’s house

So many kudos to the writers

[round pulsar]

YES I got all emotional too, also I think joe locke performance delivered it all btw he was so good last episode I was not expecting that 😭

[forest mesa]

YALL WICCANS GETTING ASERIES

[radiant mortar]

isnt this technically his series

[round pulsar]

fr

[round pulsar]

is it somehow confirmed?

[forest mesa]

hasnt been green lit but the series is supposed to be a build up to the YA

[sage drum]

He was VERY good im actually surprised

[wanton finch]

Well I’m all caught up with the show now

And I’m pretty sure my Blackheart theory was hella wrong😭

But

#1286136087667933216 message

Mephisto was name dropped so a win is a win

[robust moon]

Yea Billy was the black heart

Mephisto is gonna show up tho

100%

Final episode stuff

[forest mesa]

Yall what if Billy dies to Rio

[dapper summit]

Omg don’t manifest that

[sage drum]

Billy ain’t gonna die in his debut series lmao

[forest mesa]

Well counter point

It would make it a full rebirth if Agatha wasted her road wish on him

Also next trial is earth and since Rio isn't with us I think this trial is to represent the element

[forest mesa]

Oh fun fact did you know Lillia is the reason Alice lost her job as a officer

[round pulsar]

Next one is Lilia's trial (air element), yellow road that leads to the castle full of pop culture representations that Lilia hates so much. Billy's trial is the last one, the one underground with morgue theme from the trailers

[forest mesa]

I see it now also Coven leaders sadly don't get a trial and it's earth which sadly Wiccan is not a earth witch which means it's should be rios

[rustic spindle]

mrs sharon davis hart returns and its actually her trial

[robust moon]

She’s a white witch I’m calling it

[forest mesa]

So just found out that lady deaths reality control is higher then Wanda's like WHAT?!?

[robust moon]

I mean her name IS Lady Death, so I mean I feel like it’s pretty evident

[tidal surge]

i wish this show was 15 episodes long

[dapper summit]

right ugh

[knotty pond]

Has anyone else noticed that each trial and element had a corresponding mean of death for a witch

Drowning, burning, Falling/hanging, and crushed or stoned

Water, fire, air and Earth

[sage drum]

Agatha is going to become the avatar and bring balance to the mcu

[lunar quest]

I want to see her more

I love the actress, eh

[trail mango]

Don’t you love it when Disney+ plays an AAA ad with spoilers while watching AAA?

[dapper summit]

Classic Disney move

[wanton finch]

I noticed now but also like everything else is happening so it gets lost in the details for me

[feral relic]

LOOK AT JOE LOCKS INSTA STORY

[sage drum]

Yay lil and Jen

[feral relic]

I miss Alice so much

[sage drum]

A necessary sacrifice for mother Agatha

[sage drum]

I saw someone say take Alice’s pain, trauma and suffering, triple it and give it to Evanora Harkness 💀

[lunar quest]

real

I swear I love her

Better see her more or I riot

[forest mesa]

Remember as always

No Twitter and no TikTok they are spoil posting today

[dapper summit]

yeah i forgot that and..

sigh..

[forest mesa]

Oh no 😭

[forest mesa]

Also I live how Eddie might be teddy 👏🏾

[sage drum]

Ugh 5 more HOURS

[robust moon]

Bro how the episode isn’t even out yet

I’m glad my TikTok is all WWE, Metallica or random games

[forest mesa]

My friend

Made the worst

Agatha all along theory

He said Agatha is Loki

Who'd gonna tell em...

[dapper summit]

LOL????

[forest mesa]

My friends yelling at em rn 😭

[sage drum]

Yeah that’s a dumb as all hell theory

[forest mesa]

I mean tbf

They thought Wanda in MOM was mephisto 💀

[feral relic]

WERE SO CLOSE

Ok hear me out. What’s waiting for Agatha is Wanda

[mystic sun]

This might be the best episode yet 😩😩

[obsidian flax]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[forest mesa]

IM SCREAMING

[obsidian flax]

I refuse to believe this is a canon event

[forest mesa]

i dont think lillia id dead in the trailer she was in the last trial and alice isnt gone yet

[obsidian flax]

Wym trailer

[forest mesa]

BUT YES MARVEL CONFIRMED IT

based on williams reading they are both

[forest mesa]

mid season

[mystic sun]

I loved this episode

Lillia was so good in this episode 😩

[obsidian flax]

I hope shes alive ngl

But guess not

Unless death saves her somehow but that would be weird i guess idk

[forest mesa]

ok but lets actually like discuss the costumes cause they each mean something about their coven

[mystic sun]

Jen and Lillias relationship this episode 😔

The gay joke Agatha made 😭

[obsidian flax]

Next weeks a double ep right?

[mystic sun]

Yes

[obsidian flax]

Shoot ur theory babes

[forest mesa]

agathas stands for the wicked of the west aka heartbreak, betrayal, and vengeance but also acceptance and power
wiccans stands for Maleficent aka rebirth, unity, power, and virtue
jens stands for the evil queen. double fated, dark path, fearful actions, and skillfulness
lastly lillia agathas opposite Glinda, divinity, collectiveness, guidance, and tread setting

[sage drum]

Very sad episode : (

[mystic sun]

Lillia clocked the Salem sevens tea 🤭

[sage drum]

Salem seven are definitely NOT dead tho just delayed

[mystic sun]

Didn’t the swords go through there hearts 🤔

[sage drum]

Oh I’m so sorry did you forget that they’re WITCHES?

[forest mesa]

wait WAIT GOOD NEWS

[mystic sun]

NAWWW REALLY 🌚🙄

😔

[forest mesa]

all the tower upright meanings are considered without intention but lillia using her power to change her fate means....

[sage drum]

So why are you gonna think a couple of swords are gonna take them out? Is this your first time at storytelling?

[forest mesa]

it means renovation

that/transformation

so lillia not being confirmed stabbed is a good thing

[mystic sun]

I was happy they didn’t show the sword stabbing her 😆

[mystic sun]

I’m just gonna ignore you for my peace

[sage drum]

So sorry that you don’t understand storytelling and aren’t willing to defend your perspective

[weary bone]

same cause that wouldve hurt

[mystic sun]

No I just don’t feel like arguing with someone not worth my time but keep going

[sage drum]

That’s what you ALL say when you don’t actually have anything to say. Cheers!

[forest mesa]

wait wait death would of claimed her but the beautifful part about death is the flower and the dagger

aka life and death

[dapper summit]

You want straight answers ask a straight lady LOLLL using that

Aw come on yall don’t argue in here

I don’t want to issue mutes or warns

This is a verbal warning. Please learn how to discuss with civility and respect. If someone says something you don’t like/disagree with and you can’t type out a respectful response , don’t type one out at all.

[forest mesa]

death is more the just death it can also mean transformation and even in some instances life/rebirth

rio isnt bad but she represents what her viewer think she is just like in dc comics

[weary bone]

kinda sad billy said wanda isnt his mother like she didnt create his soul (with mephisto, ofc)

[mystic sun]

I loved the background music that played when Lillia was by herself

[weary bone]

cause if wanda isnt his mother, tommy isnt his brother

[mystic sun]

I understand why Billy would say Wanda isn’t her mom because she made many people traumatized

[forest mesa]

well shes not and she is

[dapper summit]

Complicated relationship for multiple reasons there

[forest mesa]

in plain terms and simplicity he was and will never be wands kid

[mystic sun]

And marvel teasing us with “is Wanda maximoff really dead” and Agatha saying yes no maybe

[forest mesa]

but in long terms

kinda

[sage drum]

Also Agatha’s gay jokes were great but it honestly shocked me seeing Billy in maleficent drag. Didn’t hate it but definitely shocked at first

[dapper summit]

He’s moved onto something more than that? Hard to say exactly what but he’s transformed to put it in simple terms

[forest mesa]

so 80% no 20 maybe and 5 yes

[dapper summit]

Yes no maybe so

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-agatha-harkness-agatha-all-along-i-don't-know-i'm-not-sure-gif-13030405904101403409

[forest mesa]

this^ his rebirth was actually his own will and he is the reason both in mcu and in comics that his brother lives

[mystic sun]

Lilla said that she put the sidgal because she saw what he would become so maybe Wanda would’ve found him and he’ll also be corrupted

By the darkhold

[weary bone]

he just has 2 mommies its ok

[forest mesa]

the hardest thing to tell alot of wanda fans is that (ignorning recent retcon) he made himself

[dapper summit]

Pls him being confused on tarot reminds me of when I first started

[weary bone]

yeah well they deserved it 😛

[mystic sun]

Oh 😭😭

POV rio 💀

[dapper summit]

I support women’s rights and wrongs !!

[weary bone]

REAL

[forest mesa]

since his magic was a based on beliefs (magician) (maleficent) he is not jsut more then his mother but in all technicality he is the fabric of the marvel universe materalized

[weary bone]

wanda is his mother tho. especially since she created his soul but hes biologically rachel and jeff kaplans

[mystic sun]

I hope Jen gets her powers so we can see the effects

[weary bone]

so she is his mother and rachel is also his mother

[mystic sun]

This episode confused me but I love it 😍

[forest mesa]

thats the thing his soul was reclaimed based on older comics his soul reexisting is his own doing same with tommys

[weary bone]

im just talking mcu rn

[forest mesa]

i mean both

[mystic sun]

So Agatha is like thanos in the comics

[weary bone]

not rlly. the mcu just made their own version of agatha

[forest mesa]

agatha is really heavy on physcial magic in comics

[dapper summit]

Yeah

[forest mesa]

as she should be

[dapper summit]

I love comic agatha

[forest mesa]

i miss when comics were heavy on witches using physical magic

[robust moon]

Ok

I havent seen this new episode

Without spoilers

How hyped should I be

[forest mesa]

bring back throwing some dirt on people

[dapper summit]

Then get out of here ?

😭

[weary bone]

LOL

[robust moon]

I haven’t seen any spoilers yet

So I’m chillin

But I wanna know how hyped I should be

[weary bone]

i wnna type a spoiler so bad

[forest mesa]

call your therapist

[dapper summit]

I’m going to say a spoiler isth

[weary bone]

but im not gonna be like that

[weary bone]

LOL

[forest mesa]

but back to what i was saying

[robust moon]

Alr whatever im outta here then

[forest mesa]

magic dirt

[robust moon]

I’m playing poker so I can’t watch rn

[forest mesa]

THROW IT

[dapper summit]

Pocket magic dirt

[feral relic]

SHES NOT MY MOM WHAJAHAHAHAHA

[weary bone]

i like this version of witches a lot

[forest mesa]

oh no the wanda stans are like

[dapper summit]

Same

[forest mesa]

screaming on tiktok and twitter over this quote

[feral relic]

YOU WANT STRAIGHT ANSWERS ASK A STRAIGHT LADY

AHHH

[weary bone]

she so real for that

[forest mesa]

queer-er

[dapper summit]

Period

[weary bone]

also death looked crazy

[dapper summit]

I’m using that on my parents now

[forest mesa]

wiccan was so real for that

[weary bone]

it gave snapchat filter for a bit

[dapper summit]

LOLLL

[weary bone]

but i still liked the overall look

[forest mesa]

loki solos agthas and wiccans jokes though

loki is just

prime funny

[weary bone]

loki is gone

that foo sitting in a chair forever

[forest mesa]

unless they reopen the eldrich god thing

i really hope they leave that alone

[dapper summit]

Loki my beloved

[weary bone]

i wish we didnt get sylvie :(

[forest mesa]

eldrich loki was amazing

[weary bone]

i wanted to get an actual genderfluid loki

[forest mesa]

eldrich thor doesnt need to exist

[dapper summit]

Agreed

[dapper summit]

AGREEEDDD

[forest mesa]

also for those that dont know the eldrich gods sit the highest above most mcu powers youll ever see the demiurge and eternity the entities that picked storm and wiccan are 2 of em but eldrich loki is

in short terms they are stronger then god of stories loki

also loki and wiccan become great friends when they get their eldrich powers

[dapper summit]

I love that bc it completely makes sense

[forest mesa]

theres a legit pannel where complete loki (or gender fluid/non gender confirming loki) tells wiccan to go snuggle his king when he refuse to rest over something dire

also complete loki is like all the lokis fused into one

which makes both wiccan and loki prime beings (a nexus being that only exist in one universe)

[feral relic]

DORY😭😭😭😭

[forest mesa]

ALSO FINIALLY

tommy is getting love cause tommy has been legit tortue fuel in the comics for years

[knotty pond]

It's also interesting that The elder Goddess Oshtur, Sister of Cthon also blessed Ororo's bloodline, Giving them there signature white hair affinity for magick

But Ororo's Ancestors were priestesses to Ma'at Witch was actually just Oshtur

Rly good ep too 😭

[dapper summit]

https://tenor.com/view/westernwlnd-tokyo-toni-gif-16535566702746648977

Once again Loki is the best what can I say

[forest mesa]

techincally AND I DO MEAN TECHINICALLY storm is up there with the big dawgs and reality warpers of marvel

and i dont just mean a lil cause at base she altered a whole dimension and healed it her power is enough to pretty much be on par with jean and wanda

[forest mesa]

tbh the one person loki would come down for is wiccan and its both cute and sweet

and chavez

[dapper summit]

I’ll still need a moment to not feel hurt over Lilia’s “I loved being a witch”

[forest mesa]

also

[mystic sun]

Rember when Lilia uses teens full name

[forest mesa]

water, fire, air... earth the last trial is rios

[mystic sun]

TEENAGER😨😨

[knotty pond]

Yh, Magic blood and blessed by an elder Goddess will do it 😭

I'll try and find the original writers excerpt, but it may have been Claremont, but Storm and the Phoenix were supposed to be equal in power, both of them wielding the various forces of nature and whatnot

But storm was stunted and jean killed for a decade and some change...quite a bummer the 2000s was

[feral relic]

If Lillia dies I’m going to scream and take a walk and be upset

[knotty pond]

Um...

[dapper summit]

No she’s fine guys we didn’t see her land on the sword she’s fine right 😭

[mystic sun]

I’ll go along with you’re delusion (I was in denial when Alice died)

[knotty pond]

I'm still betting that agatha will wish for alice and Lilia to be restored, or maybe Billy will,

[dapper summit]

https://tenor.com/view/patti-lupone-lilia-calderu-agatha-all-along-lilia-gagasctrl-gif-10529051943326258256

[dapper summit]

Hmmm plausible

[forest mesa]

ok i think i know the last two episode names

following the ballad all thats left is

team your fears a door appears the time has come to go,
follow me my friend to glory at the end
where all thats wrong is right and all thats bad is good
blood and tears and bone maiden mother crone
if one be gone we carry one spirit as our guide

ima be honest its most likely gonna be maiden mother crone and follow me my friend

but im scared cause theres one last episode that should be a prequil other then these

[weary bone]

please this episode of WV hurt me so bad

i was literally fighting tears and they still came

throat hurt so bad

[mystic sun]

One last week and then Agatha all along is gone 😔

[forest mesa]

they said a season 2 is possible....

[knotty pond]

Ohh

[mystic sun]

A season 2 wouldn’t make sense in my opinion

😔

[forest mesa]

its gonna be a prequil if anything

soooo

not as fun but fun

[feral relic]

…

I’m upset…

yet happy

[knotty pond]

As long as we can see other mystical beings, like The Ancient One, Vishanti, Oshtur, ect

But a second S would be better in the present

[mystic sun]

I can’t believe Alice been dead for 2 weeks 😔

[feral relic]

WE SAW THE SALEM
SEVEN FOR ONE EPISODE AND THEN THEY KILL THEM

[mystic sun]

2 episode or 3 if you count the recent one 😔

But the Salem sevens need more screen time

[feral relic]

They were genuinely the scariest part of episode 2

[knotty pond]

So long as agatha lives there souls will be bound, just like her mother, so they can still be used

[forest mesa]

Now Wanda fans are saying if Wiccan doesn't like Wanda he shouldn't of been revived 😭

[idle sage]

GUYS, I haven't watched the episode yet and I made the mistake of opening TikTok, what happened to Lilia???😭

[knotty pond]

You sure you want the answer to that

[forest mesa]

Watch it

MOW

[idle sage]

I'm afraid 😭

[idle sage]

I can't i have to wait 😔

[knotty pond]

So you want me to tell you?

[idle sage]

Yes🥲

[knotty pond]

After gaining control over her Premonitions, Lilla and Jen make there way to the next trial and aid Billy and Agatha, Lilla does a reading on herself and they pass, But she closes the doors to thwart the 7

She removes a tarot card which is the tower reversed and literally flips the castle, Throwing the 7 on a Celing of swords, and Lilla also shares there fate, sacrifices herself, just like Alice

[idle sage]

...

Just this that information

I can already tell Jen is done next time 😭

wow I didn't expect that..

[forest mesa]

She can change fate which is interesting and that means Wanda isn't the only one who can

[idle sage]

Was Alice there?

[forest mesa]

But Lilia's is so weak 😭

Not yet

[idle sage]

she was in only one comic before the 2000s, there weren't too many resources for her 🥲

I'm happy about how they use her but i'm also sad

[knotty pond]

Of course, Fate is a fickle thing, With so many modes of control

[knotty pond]

Alice is still dead

[deft ridge]

AHHHHHH I DIDNT CARE!!! I DIDNT ASK FOR THIS SHOW AND NOW I CARE!! I CARE ABOUT THIS STORY AND IM SO INVESTED AHHHHH PAIN. NOTHING BUT PAIN DOWN DOWN DOWN THE ROAD DOWN THE WITCH’S ROAD

[knotty pond]

Before dying, Lilia said that Jen was high priestess,

In tarot that means untold mystical power, But also this power was being held back,

Jen imo is too important to kill

[robust moon]

Alr im more mad the episode ended like that

But omg Lady Death looks so good

[idle sage]

yes, unlike the other (even if Alice has some appearance) she is largely in the comics, she is also the cousin of ghost rider

[deft ridge]

I’m saying 😭

[idle sage]

I thought she would just be the avatar of death 🥲

[knotty pond]

Yh she's gonna be apart of something big

[round pulsar]

Lilia is THE MVP

[ebon zephyr]

took one for the team 😔

[idle sage]

I just finished the episode, wow, Lilia's power is really interesting, I tell myself that she could change events in time if she wanted to

i kinda understand why teen is mad at wanda, imagine saying goodnight to your parents next to your twin brother and then waking up in another body 😭, i can't blame wanda, she probably didn't know he had a soul 🥲

[feral relic]

It’s been a few hour and in going to go feral without more

[tidal surge]

God what a brilliant episode of television

[tidal surge]

I made the same mistake 🙃

[forest mesa]

sooo noone told me but

wiccans reading is
traveler magician,
the quest/whats missing is the sun, the path behind, the path ahead, objective and windfall are whats missing

[idle sage]

Excuse me, I wanted to know but for some reason I find Lilia's fate sadder than the others, am I the only one? 😭😬

i just realized something, lilia somehow accidentally created MOM's events 💀

[sinful moat]

lilia…

[round pulsar]

Lilia is MOTHER 😭

[dapper summit]

PERIOD!!!

https://tenor.com/view/patti-lupone-lilia-calderu-agatha-all-along-lilia-gagasctrl-gif-10529051943326258256

[radiant mortar]

She is my fav witch in the coven

[dapper summit]

same

[tidal surge]

it was genius to experience this episode from her perspective

just masterful writing

anyone calling AAA a flop is IGNORANT

"the tower, reversed" 🔥🔥🔥🗣️ 🗣️🗣️

[sinful moat]

i loved how they tied that all together

[feral relic]

Is it normal to have a full out sobbing session during Lorna Wu’s version of the ballad🤧 like I can’t not tear up hearing if I can’t reach you, let my song teach you

[dapper summit]

we need jac on every witch show now this episode was executed amazing. stunning

[forest mesa]

I just rewrote the story she's both the white witch and scarlet witch

[tidal surge]

She needs to stay on mystical mcu henceforth

[dapper summit]

i demand it

[ebon zephyr]

lilia we love you ❤️‍🩹

[sage drum]

Lilia spinoff pls

[tidal surge]

Lilia for marvel rivals

[forest mesa]

Ok ok

[rustic spindle]

I love a sacrifice where the character just gets to show off and do something seriously badarse and cool before they die

[feral relic]

Went on insta saw lilia post and im boutta cry

Wait it ended with her as a child so she’s starting her life over and not actually dead

[weary bone]

I think she just went to the afterlife with her teacher

[feral relic]

I’m the most upset that they just killed the Salem 7 like that

I wanted to know more

[dapper summit]

someone said only 5 died

or were seen being stabbed

[feral relic]

Fingers crossed

Is Rio one of the 7 I wonder

[tidal surge]

My bf was like "why didn't she just go through the door" 😩 did we not watch the same episode

[tidal surge]

I interpreted as the start of her witch journey irl since she experienced time differently

[feral relic]

and her smirk at the end was her showing she has full control

[desert charm]

Agatha not all along

[forest mesa]

Ima say it

I think lillas the white witch

Also someone got Agatha's card reading and Agatha is in danger

[tidal surge]

girl u think everyone the white witch lmaoo

[forest mesa]

ive only said lilia everyone else in chat said ms sharron 😭

[tidal surge]

chat we get TWO episodes next week

[forest mesa]

WAIT Wait

Lilia's reading

The path behind is still a open path

ALICE IS COMING BACK

[feral relic]

WAIT WAS THE CICADA ON AGATHAS CURTAIN IN WANDAVISION VERTIGO???

[weary bone]

thats the theory

[round pulsar]

Did you guys saw that last leak from MyTimeToShineHello? ||it says marvel are making a show about Wiccan Also they will reportedly cast an actor to play Hulkling next year which make me think Eddie is not Teddy fr||

[sage drum]

She fed that cicada to her rabbit..

[feral relic]

Aw

[round pulsar]

Yes senor Scratchy got MVP that day 🐇

[radiant mortar]

tbf shine's leak is on a 50/50

its either she got a 100% facture report or just posting for clout

[sage drum]

If Senor Scratchy doesn’t make an appearance in the last episode I riot

[marsh whale]

Be careful with leaks like that, there used to be a fairly big leaker in the boys community who eventually got found out and fired from their job as a subtitle writer for Amazon for leaking stuff. So if it's a legit leak, just be careful where you're sharing them

[feral relic]

HEAR ME OUT. WHAT IF SENOR SCRATCH IS EITHER
A. Nicholas Scratch
B. Mephisto

[tidal surge]

I think it's a bunny named after her dead son 👦

Chat do we think The witches road is real or a reality created by Billy

[dapper summit]

i don't think billy is that strong yet

[tidal surge]

Yes, but counter point, neither did Wanda when she did the hex

[dapper summit]

but also billy is not at the level of grief wanda was at at that point

home girl was going THROUGH it

[tidal surge]

Also if Agatha has been on the road before she's acting like it's not how she remembered it

Yeah true

[dapper summit]

two episodes next week is gonna mess me up

i scared...

[tidal surge]

My one big critique of the show is I wish the Salem 7 felt like a bigger threat and I wish the coven had more bonding scenes like after Alice's trial

[dapper summit]

yes same here

[tidal surge]

Would've made Lilia's death hit harder

[dapper summit]

why aren't you reading rn?....

[tidal surge]

Girl I was at the gym and getting food now sheeeessh

I didn't know I had 30 minutes

[dapper summit]

WELL I WANNA DISCUSS

[tidal surge]

I'm halfway through chapter 11 and u on 17 fuskdhsks

Gimme a sec 😫

[dapper summit]

well we are stopping before 17 now don't get wild...

[tidal surge]

ackbar twerking gif

[dapper summit]

i'll send an appropriate substitute instead

https://tenor.com/view/patti-lupone-lilia-calderu-agatha-all-along-lilia-gagasctrl-gif-10529051943326258256

[tidal surge]

My beloved...

[dapper summit]

MY EVERYTHING!

[tidal surge]

"I loved being a witch" 🥺🥺🥺

Even through all the trials and pain she suffered being a witch, she wouldn't trade a single moment of it

[forest mesa]

Don't talk about leaks but uhhh

Yeah just saying it now marvel actors usually get casted the show of of a year before

If not 2

Also because of the doom saga nearly all of the young avengers have been casted

Except prodigy

Which means I might have a chance at marvel /j

[forest mesa]

STOP IT SHES NOY DEQD I REFUSE TO BELIVE IT

[sage drum]

Also I’d like to say that, as a LGBT person, I really appreciate the respect this show has shown to LGBT people by not overblowing stereotypes. Feels good to have a gay show out here that isn’t trying too hard or mocking

I feel like I’ve said this before but in light of the several gay jokes over the course of the last couple episodes just felt like I should reiterate

[sage drum]

HELLO THIS ISNT AN AGATHA COMMENT BUT

IM REWATCHING MULTIVERSE FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME

when dreamwalking is being explained

Right before they pass out and all throughout the score there’s cicadas. Listen again if you haven’t but also let me know if I’m late to the party but I just heard that and lost it. It’s the scene before and during 838 Wanda’s first possession of 616 Wanda

I might be late to the party on this but there are cicadas in that score

My brother asked me recently what the obsession with cicadas and witches are and I told him one story that little girls used to say cicadas were witches singing and adults assumed that meant a “spell”

We love Ice cream is so bad these boys did not deserve that

[feral relic]

Jac Schaeffer says the swords that fell on the coven in ‘AGATHA ALL ALONG’ were not CGI:

“The other thing that was very complicated about this episode was the practical part. Those swords are real, and they’re on piano wire.”

“We had to number them and know the order and decide where they went before any actors set foot on the set.”
…,,
THEY WERE TRYING TO KILL PATTI IRL

[forest mesa]

NOOOO

ok will say

Yall

Can we talk about how Alice and Lilia completed the road?!?

[robust moon]

They did?

[radiant mortar]

I think you mean the trial

[toxic vine]

Is mephisto in this?

[brisk ermine]

nope, not physically (that we know of)

just his son billy :)

[knotty pond]

In wandavision there was a Cicada in agatha's basement, the one she used to demonstrate bewitching or smth

But out of all of the 7 Vertigo is probably the hardest to hide from

[sage drum]

She. Feeds. That. Cicada. To. Her. Rabbit.

And Agatha hid from all of them they didn’t know how to find her until rio found her

[knotty pond]

It's still quite curious that out of all the insects that could be down there, it's the same as what vertigo can shift to

[sage drum]

Cicadas and witches are like reindeer and Santa my friend

They go together historically

Also when r these funko pops coming out dang

[knotty pond]

That's really interesting, speaking of I'm pretty sure there's 2 out of the 7 that still live

[sage drum]

I would be heavily disappointed if at least one of them didn’t survive that. I saw an interview or something saying that this is apparently it for the seven like they aren’t in further storyboards?? I hope not

[knotty pond]

Maybe by the end of the series or just before, since we know who Rio and teen are now

[knotty pond]

That is disappointing, they could've gone the vengeful ghost route, since there business isn't finished, like agatha's mom they can still be around

[sage drum]

I hope so. They’re too cool to die just like that without a proper battle. I love Lilia and understand the significance of that moment, but the Salem seven are like the witchiest of witches right? I def bet at least a few of them in their lifetime had considered stab wound enchantments or something. I really hope we see them at the end

[knotty pond]

Rio did call them Feral and hive minded, and we've not seen them talk besides there usual
"Find agatha" there mothers were killed, so unless they had another elder hanging around, I'd imagine they taught themselves magic, and something went wrong or was never learned

Imma be honest they only seem like a threat because everyone there was powerless, (save rio) they demonstrated no other powers beside shifting form, there attacks were physical...but who knows 🤷‍♂️

[sage drum]

Ughhh I guess we’ll see : ( maybe they’re just a bunch of PUNKS

Agatha was right always finish what you started

[knotty pond]

I'm honestly more interested on what happened between agatha and Jen

[forest mesa]

Yes

They got what's missing and reached Rio which means

They completed the road

[tidal surge]

I guess

[light ocean]

so the only huge spoiler about this show is that one dude being wanda son?

[robust moon]

And Rio being Lady Death

But there could be more

Still have 2 episodes left

[light ocean]

oh i thought it was finished mb

[light ocean]

interesting so we might see her in deadpool content then

unless thats a different one

[robust moon]

Noooo, if it ended with that last episode I would be pissed bc it would’ve been an awful ending

[robust moon]

We might yea. It’s the same one ur thinking of

[light ocean]

some people think vanessa is lady death

[robust moon]

Vanessa?

Who the heck is Vanessa

[light ocean]

deadpool wife

in the mcu

[robust moon]

Oh what, no she def isn’t

[light ocean]

i was just saying as speculation not confirmed information

[stuck compass]

is white vision in AAA?

[feral relic]

No vision yet

Or Wanda

also I got bad news

Jac Schaeffer says the deaths in AgathaAIIAlong are permanent:

“Death is immutable. It is permanent. With this show, we wanted to pay respect to that. So this a more earnest and grave conversation about death than maybe you would find in another superhero project.”

[stuck compass]

-_-

[feral relic]

what?

[stuck compass]

man, i really hoped one or the other would return in some fashion

since white vision's just kinda there

[feral relic]

we still have 2 episodes left

[feral relic]

he’s getting his own series

[stuck compass]

and wanda's death made me facepalm into bolivon

[feral relic]

She’s not dead

[stuck compass]

fr?

[feral relic]

this past episode even Agatha said she doesn’t know

yes, no, I don’t know

[stuck compass]

ok, thats some hope

thx

[feral relic]

ofc

[old lintel]

this series really good

didn’t expect too much but I’m happy about it

ep 7 best one so far imo

[light ocean]

Who died?

[feral relic]

watch

[light ocean]

Naw

[old lintel]

u not gonna watch the show?

[lunar quest]

Ngl this week's episode was pog.
To be fair, I don't even remember a Marvel series or film that I enjoyed so much...
Because for once, everything is pretty good. And we've real acting. (And by that, I'm not saying MCU's actors are bad lol, not at all, but this series' scenario makes acting more needed, more diversified.)
Otherwise ep.7 was pretty well constructed, I'm sad now tho.

[old lintel]

this def making my top 3 mcu shows

not including the defenders shows, animated shows or any other ones which are not part of the main timeline

[lunar quest]

I'm being bad tho.
WandaVision as well definitely was very diversified in terms of acting. (Which is why I liked it too.)

[light ocean]

Just here for the spoilers

[old lintel]

Alr then but I def think this show is worth a watch

as for the spoiler

ep 7 ||lilia dies||

[light ocean]

Is that the old blonde lady?

[old lintel]

no

it’s the other old lady

[light ocean]

Oh have no clue who that is lool

I’m Google it

So apparently they’re all witches beside that guy right?

I know who he’s related too

[old lintel]

||patti lupone’s character||

[old lintel]

well I thought so too but they classify him as a witch too

i thought witch is only for like girls but apparently not

also Sharon is not a witch she was just a regular old lady who did not deserve what happened to her 😭

she’s the old blonde lady u mentioned

[light ocean]

Wouldn’t he be more of a wizard though

[light ocean]

I mean it is

And men are called wizards or warlocks or he has different pronouns?

[old lintel]

yeah ik either a wizard or warlock but they use the term witch in this show for everyone in a coven regardless of gender

[light ocean]

I see

At the end of the day Disney does what it wants

[feral relic]

The budget was so low they had to use real swords to fall
From the ceiling instead of cgi

they fr risked hurting Patti lupone

[old lintel]

I know they used a lot of real props and I think that was really cool ngl

but didn’t know about the swords 😭

apparently they did use real ones but didn’t drop them ofc they were suspended using something

but yeah

use of real stuff over cgi doesn’t bother me at all cuz it looks good and it works perfectly fine

and this show is rlly good even with a low budget cuz of the cast, writers and jac schaeffer

now compare that with smth like she hulk which had a very high budget but bad cgi and story 😭

like I don’t like that show bruh but it’s not for the reasons a certain group of people hate it I got valid criticisms

[manic hearth]

Ep 7 was a cinematic masterpiece

[old lintel]

facts

[sage drum]

Wizards, witches and warlocks, are ALL different things

Witches practice witchcraft, warlocks possess demonic magic, and wizards study to get their power. It’s not just because Wiccan is a man that he’s suddenly not a witch

[dapper summit]

They dropped real ones using piano wire

[old lintel]

idk if that’s cool or concerning 😭

[old lintel]

her name is SHARON not mrs hart

smh smh

[tidal surge]

Love that she said this when Wakanda Forever is right there

[feral relic]

250 million dollars mind you, and AAA has 40 million

[tidal surge]

The thing is none of these mcu shows had a showrunner to actually make them feel like shows except for Wandavision and AAA

She hulk I didn't mind, had some great and not great moments, but for what it was, it's insane it cost that much

[sage drum]

Who’s Sharon

[old lintel]

that’s true I’m kinda sad jac schaeffer dropped out of vision quest 😔
she directed both WV and AAA

[old lintel]

you have mrs hart in your username

that’s the fake name Wanda gave to her in the hex

her real name is Sharon Davis

she says that multiple times in AAA when agatha keeps calling her mrs hart 😭

[dapper summit]

Who is Sharon

[dapper summit]

(You’re missing the joke, Agatha says that in the episode lol)

[old lintel]

what

[tidal surge]

agatha says "Who's Sharon" after mrs hart dies

[dapper summit]

???

[old lintel]

yeah that’s what I said didn’t I

that agatha still didn’t know her real name

[dapper summit]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-gif-8906255

[old lintel]

are u saying agatha said that intentionally

OKAY NO NVM IM JUST STUPID

i get it that user replied to me saying “who’s Sharon” and that was a reference to the joke 😭

but in my defence many people have genuinely asked me who Sharon is

[tidal surge]

I was like "how can we make this any more clearer" 😫

[old lintel]

😭

[sage drum]

Lololol

[sage drum]

It was perfect you walked right into it

[tidal surge]

Omg one of the Salem seven performers replied to my TikTok comment

[dapper summit]

Are you harassing performers again leafy

[tidal surge]

I SAID SHE ATE WYM

[forest mesa]

Twitter Stan's are something else I gotta block the hashtags for Agatha all along now 😭

[feral relic]

3 days until it all ends :/

[lunar quest]

250M$ for she hulk ?

Damn, I would fire the CGI studio, sincerely

And even more the guy that decided it looked fine

[tidal surge]

It's typically not just one VFX house but several

And the quality is more the fault of rushed deadlines brought on by marvel

[lunar quest]

That's true. But it should never be made only accountable to Marvel

Because the VFX studios accepted it.

[tidal surge]

That's not how it works lol

[lunar quest]

Actually it depends of contracts at hands

[tidal surge]

Like yes heads of VFX houses bid low to get on the projects and then underpay and overwork the VFX artists

[lunar quest]

Deadlines and a skeleton of the needed works can be discussed before, it just depends which ones they are, eh

[tidal surge]

Well all that is done they don't just throw whatever together

[lunar quest]

Well, it depends how much they're known to begin with too, lol

[tidal surge]

Pretty sure Weta did most of She-Hulk, same studio as Avatar

[lunar quest]

Though I mean, if they've never worked with a client as big as Marvel they'll always try to join, anyway...
Well. Before, because that's not the case of all of them, now

[tidal surge]

Marvel isn't gonna hire just whomever

[lunar quest]

I mean, Weta is good but they did made some garbage too, and they're known for particularly awful pay lol

[lunar quest]

Well, sure, lol

[tidal surge]

That's the state of the VFX industry in general, underpaying and overworking the artists

Still though She-Hulk is a really difficult and impressive VFX it's not perfect but it is still really good and gets too much hate. It's hard making those visuals work with human models and avoiding the uncanny valley

[lunar quest]

Anyway, my point was just. If you still accepted the task with an impossible deadline - that's your fault too -.
Not that you aren't pressurised, because obviously you want the thing, but you know that you won't be able to give what you should

[lunar quest]

Well.
True.
To be fair, more than a VFX issues, I just don't like the overall design, which is actually a different matter

[tidal surge]

The design of Jen as she-hulk?

They said they wanted to go more of the Olympian route rather than having her be a straight up bodybuilder

Honestly it was gonna get criticized either way

[lunar quest]

I just don't like the overall face design, actually.
Lol, well of course it's her face, but I mean the fact that it's face but just green was, well, strange to me

Because no, actually, the olympian route is something I like way, way, way more than the bodybuilder type for absolutely anyone, for that matter, I would have preferred Hulk the same way... But well... lol

[radiant mortar]

Someone state that Hulk's height got shorter as of She-Hulk 🤔

[tidal surge]

Hulk isn't an Olympian though, he's a muscle monster. Also wdym you're mad they made her face green lol

[radiant mortar]

Also nice pfp leafy

[tidal surge]

Did you want her to have caveman brow bones

[lunar quest]

Didn't said that.
I was just saying I would have preferred lol, I just don't like muscles monster as you said XD
Which is why I said I preferred the olympian way, actually

[tidal surge]

Or be chiseled like handsome squidward

[lunar quest]

And no, I'm just like. I don't know, I didn't liked this green-ish face.
I don't know if it's the colour, or the fact that it's just green but with no modifications to the face. Honestly I can't tell you, I just didn't liked it xD

[tidal surge]

That's fair just not true to the origin of the character, which I've never really cared about Hulk like ever lol

[lunar quest]

I never cared about him either

I just don't like muscle bounds, not my thing XD

[tidal surge]

Every marvel fan be like "idk why I didn't like it I just didn't!" 😫

[lunar quest]

Well I mean

sometimes it's hard to give a reason, to be fair

[tidal surge]

I'm just teasing

[lunar quest]

btw

[tidal surge]

Everyone has preferences

[lunar quest]

Moonknight gud

[tidal surge]

The show or the character

[radiant mortar]

Hmm thinking they could try the Free Guy cg tactic

[lunar quest]

Also tbh, I'm not a marvel fan anyway XD

[tidal surge]

Neither are marvel fans dw

[lunar quest]

I swear. Comics is something I've never liked for real.
I did like some, but I can't like the genre overall

Just because... It's impossible to follow, I swear

[tidal surge]

It can be hard yeah

[lunar quest]

Hard is an understatement, and I'm actually lucky Marvel is easier than, hm, DC.

[radiant mortar]

Usually I got comic info via yt shorts and video

[lunar quest]

With their 2575745 restarts.

[radiant mortar]

Thats how I know about Absolute Batman story and King In Black's ending

[lunar quest]

xD
I mean, to be fair, if you read all comics...
Well, I don't have the money for that, anyway

[radiant mortar]

I think I need to continue to read the moon knight comic online

[lunar quest]

Btw otherwise. I didn't follow things enough

But except ||Death|| (AAA spoiler, right, well tho everyone knew it anyway) are we expecting to see the characters in future movies?

[radiant mortar]

||Can't wait for her backstory||

[dapper summit]

Not a spoiler anymore, since it’s been revealed in the show

[lunar quest]

I meant for those that aren't up to this episode

[dapper summit]

Well, then they shouldn’t go in the thread lol

[radiant mortar]

^

[dapper summit]

Anything that’s been out officially, fair game

[lunar quest]

You know

[radiant mortar]

This is why I avoid this thread whenever a new ep came out

[lunar quest]

I'm a curious guy so I'll always go everywhere kek

[dapper summit]

But if it was unofficial spoilers and leaks, nope

[lunar quest]

so, I'll still spoiler things

[radiant mortar]

It do be like that

[dapper summit]

Me 😭😭😭 I always come in at the tail end when the others are getting messy in here

[lunar quest]

Though, to be fair.
I never cared about spoilers

You can spoil me a character is going to die at the end of a movie or a book I couldn't care less

[radiant mortar]

Sometimes you forgot yout algo is filled with marvel stuff and when a new mcu movie is up

Boom spoiler scene 😭

[dapper summit]

Same here

I’ll still watch regardless

[lunar quest]

I don't care just coz

It's not going to tell you how it happened

[radiant mortar]

Same but I want to know HOW that character die

[lunar quest]

etc

[radiant mortar]

Thats what happen to me when my friend told me quicksilver died im aou

[lunar quest]

so unless the guy is spoiling the whole movie/book (and then guy need a lot of time lol) I'm fine

[radiant mortar]

Sometimes I just forgot about the details lol

[lunar quest]

Yeah

To be fair spoiler help me sometimes

I actually spoil myself

I'm just like, I know there are chars, with personality & faces I'll very much like, and if they die I'll be too sad xD

so I'll literally skip the movie/book/whatever

LOL

[radiant mortar]

Nwh spidey scene kinda give me an assure that the leaks were true lol

Its the thumbnail

Afterward I immediately told myself I didnt see anything, I didnt witness that

And try to forget about it

[round pulsar]

Mr Shart

[old lintel]

LMAO yeah I read it like that on the ouija board too 😭

[round pulsar]

YES LMAO we all read like that in the first time 😭

[dapper summit]

i gigged

[tidal surge]

chupa sangria be like

[dapper summit]

well with that it would be gagged instead of giggled. #slaytheroad

[forest mesa]

Banned 😭

Yall ready

For the end

[robust moon]

im ready to see mephisto

[dapper summit]

NO

[tidal surge]

I'm scared

[round pulsar]

If we don't get Wiccan, Agatha, Lady Death and Mr Shart trailer reveal announced in Marvel Rivals together with the last episode on wednesday WE RIOT

[forest mesa]

Imagine everyone dies and they say no more marvel at the end

[dapper summit]

HELP?

[forest mesa]

It was wanagtha all along

[round pulsar]

Wherever it may bend I'll see you at the eeeeend 🎶 😭

[forest mesa]

ok head on a swivel

spoils are dropping again

[real swan]

well, Billy died, so? 😄

[feral relic]

not in this series yet

[dapper summit]

how are we feeling my coven

[real swan]

well, William died

[feral relic]

I’m sad

tomorrow is the end

[round pulsar]

I know Billy and William it's something the show put it that way to make it easier to understand, but they're actually both William. Vision named him after William Shakespeare, Billy is short for William

[round pulsar]

i'm both sad and hyped for the finale 😭 I hope Marvel gives more projects to Jac Schaeffer, now it is more than proven that she is great at what she does

If she gets the young avengers project people are talking about I'm sure she will make it a top game in MCU

[dapper summit]

THISSSSSSSS jac needs way more projects now

she has shown that she can make this work

[forest mesa]

Bestie I get it but also that's the comic version so far since in WV they both weren't given full names

The was Twitter is acting relived that Eddie isn't teddy feels so rude

He would of made a great teddy

[sage drum]

Oof I was right all of the witches (and Mrs hart) have so far died in the order they step onto the road the first time hopefully Jen doesn’t DIE

[forest mesa]

Well to be fair all of them so far have completed the road in some sort of way

But so far the high priestess card is scaring me since a second meaning for her high spiritual power is "unwilling to use it"

[feral relic]

I’m so curious to what her abilities are

[feral relic]

I’m watching a funny moment montage and the book she was returning
Dialogue and rhetoric known history of learning and debate
Spells dark hold

I never noticed

[forest mesa]

Also if anyone wants I can tell them their class magic type skills and abilities for something Agatha themed

[twin sphinx]

👀

[dapper summit]

https://tenor.com/view/patti-lupone-lilia-calderu-agatha-all-along-lilia-gagasctrl-gif-10529051943326258256

[weary bone]

mother

[dapper summit]

My everything

[weary bone]

my forever

[radiant mortar]

I demand a Lilia series 🗣️

[dapper summit]

Her backstory seems fascinating

[radiant mortar]

It would be nice to get a special presentation or a mini series of her's on the spooky month of halloween

[marsh whale]

unfortunately Marvel have clearly commited to having Werewolf by night be the only halloween one shot, kinda irks me since there's so much potential for Marvel and halloween specials

So committed they released it twice 🤣

[radiant mortar]

Ikr halloween special be used to build up supernatural side of mcu

Man thing short series

Ghost rider

And many more smh

[sage drum]

Am not emotionally ready for tn

[dapper summit]

WAIT I FORGOT ITS TONIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[tidal surge]

I'm not ready

[sage drum]

I’m staying up xtra late past me bedtime so I can watch (I work at 4am)

[dapper summit]

praying for you omg

[marsh whale]

legit this is the first set i'm able to stay up and watch and i'm wholly intending on it

Double episode tonight as well

[round pulsar]

What time the episode come out in your time zone? for me it's 10 pm

[mental compass]

preparing myself to cry tonight

[forest mesa]

It was me

I destroyed Wanda and made the road 😔

[brisk ermine]

and we all thank you

[forest mesa]

Also not me getting a whole meal is preparation

[dapper summit]

love to see it

okay i'm not able to watch right away so pleaseeeeee yall behave and don't argue when the episodes drop ty ily all gorgeous coven 🤍

[rustic spindle]

Are the episodes coming out normal time?

[dapper summit]

i believe so !

[rustic spindle]

Ugh that means I’ve still got four hours

[dapper summit]

i'll do the angry gif for you

https://tenor.com/view/ódio-estresse-quebrando-tudo-raiva-gif-25087779

[rustic spindle]

Why thank you

Appreciate it

[robust moon]

Yall we have nearly 2 and a half hours left until the final two episodes are released. How are we feeling?

[feral relic]

I’ve cried already

[robust moon]

we both know youll cry more

[feral relic]

Ok fine I lied I’ve cried 3 times already

Omg today is destiny. It’s supposed to be heavy storms during the night🥹

[idle sage]

it's almost the end, I was VERY happy to be able to talk about this series on this server with people and share my opinion (especially since I don't speak English and almost no one regards the Marvel series seriously in my country) this was my BEST experience in a marvel server (it my first🥲), thanks a lot guys

[feral relic]

Yeah I will definitely rmemeber these past 5 weeks for the rest of my life

And I’m dressing up as Sharon for Halloween :)

[sage drum]

Crying @ the teaser for tn

[robust moon]

35 minutes everybody!!

[feral relic]

It’s been an honor going down the road with all of you

If I can’t reach you, let my song teach you. All you need to keep our love alive. If I can’t hold you, remember what I told you. It’s the only way we survive. WE SURVIVE!

[forest mesa]

YALL

IT HAPPENED

IM SCREAMING

KEKE PLAMER IS ROGUE

[sage drum]

Hello I’m LOSING IT

time for last episode and then bed oh my godddd

This show is s tier

[forest mesa]

keke palmer in agatha was supreme

[sage drum]

I’m sobbing

[forest mesa]

wait so the road permantly exist because of wiccan

[sage drum]

I have been sobbing the past two hours what an amazing show and an amazing finale everything I thought would happen/was possible/wanted to happen DID happen in some way and I’m just so happy holy mother of god this show is so good

Amazing conclusion, amazing story altogether, forever obsessed with this perfect sequel to Wandavision

[mental compass]

im just at

a loss for words

[weary bone]

dang

that costume was pretty cool

except for the headband

shouldve just been silver

[mystic sun]

So umm did Billy just leave his parents to worry AGAIN 😭😭😭

[mental compass]

possibly

he comes back for 15 minutes then left again 😭

[mystic sun]

Me and the Alice crumbs

😔

At least she’ll be with her mom and Lila

[mental compass]

im so sad

when she said "thats all the time i get?"

[quasi dome]

Y'all wheres my post credit scene

[mental compass]

no one talk to me for the next month actually

[mystic sun]

RIGHTTT

and Jen had NO SCREEN TIME BASICALLY 😭😭

[forest mesa]

none wanda stans lied

[mystic sun]

Episode 9 is what broke me Agatha and Nickolas making the song 😭😭

[quasi dome]

The way there was no post credit scene at all for anything was the most surprising thing

[forest mesa]

ok but can we love that billys concept creation is the most powerful power ever

and creating the road opens the door for so many magic users now

[robust moon]

no Mephisto, 0/10, bad show

[mystic sun]

His creation was better than the hex 😭

[quasi dome]

yesss also I LOVE agatha's new look

tbh i prefer ghost agatha over alive agatha

[mystic sun]

Me too she’s also gonna guide Billy like she did Wanda 😭

[robust moon]

ghost Agatha looks like comic Agatha so I love that

[quasi dome]

same

[forest mesa]

the question is... will the road be diffrent for new witches

cause tbh i wanna see a new hex squad walk the road

[mystic sun]

I think he destroyed the road

[robust moon]

the fact that Billy created the road was honestly such a shock but it made so much sense

[quasi dome]

makes me feel even more bad for Alice

[mystic sun]

And Agatha and her son made me cry 😭😭

[quasi dome]

Alice cant catch a break

[mystic sun]

If Billy can cheat Tommy out of death when is he gonna do Alice

😭😭

[robust moon]

my assumption now is the Vision series will feature Billy and Agatha as they search for Tommy, along with Vision assembling the Young Avengers

[forest mesa]

since his power is concept creation he can destroy or break it it just simply exist which tbh wiccan I LOVE HIM but the one thing that differs from his powers vs wandas is 0 auto piolet

[sage drum]

Need vision and Tommy NOW

my soul is weeping

[forest mesa]

also his own powers can endanger him

[quasi dome]

my exact thoughts

[mystic sun]

At least they showed respect by adding the tombstone

😔

[robust moon]

also I jumped up so hard when Billy showed up in the Wiccan outfit

[mental compass]

the road was never real no?

[forest mesa]

remember yall they all beat the road and the only one that passed was alice and sharon

[robust moon]

it wasn't until Billy created it

[forest mesa]

in the words of agtha it wasn't until billy

[quasi dome]

yesss ngl that made me feel something. Like I didnt cry but i definitely felt buildup from that

[sage drum]

It was as real as Wanda’s hex. So real but not real real but real yknow

[dense bison]

So wanda really did bite the dust

[robust moon]

yall need to realize this. yes. wanda is dead

[sage drum]

Nuh uh mother Wanda is alive and well and she will be fine

[robust moon]

prob not forever but for right now, she is gone

[mystic sun]

OMG that’s why Billy always found the clues 😨😨

[quasi dome]

I find it hilarious that wanda was getting disrespected the entire show

[forest mesa]

since billys power in conceptual manipulation vs wandas is reality alteration unlike wanda billy can make concepts flat out a thing that exist outside of him

[quasi dome]

speaking ill of the dead

[sage drum]

The Wanda shade was so real but she did traumatize an entire suburbia so I kinda get it

[forest mesa]

but now that billy open the road wanda can come back alive

[sage drum]

But then I’m like it was 2 weeks westview citizens, what yall haven’t had a bad two weeks until
Now?

[forest mesa]

also billy and tommy based on what death said was supposed to come back alive anyways

[sage drum]

His abilities will continue to get insane bc of his demiurge prophecy. Can’t wait to see what they do

[quasi dome]

Yall imagine how Westview residents must feel realizing that Shaaron is missing/dead

[sage drum]

Dude the Davis’ couldn’t catch a break

[robust moon]

They're probably relieved that Agatha is gone tho

[quasi dome]

most definitely

[forest mesa]

also pls billy

[sage drum]

Westview hex, Mr Davis dies, Sharon lives with that for a while, Sharon dies, Maximoff and Davis’ do NOT mix lol

[mystic sun]

I know Ralph is happy Agatha is dead 😭😭

[forest mesa]

get over yourself you didnt kill them or your mind it may have been your creation but it no longer is in your control

[quasi dome]

I honestly cant wait to see more agatha in future projects now that shes accompanying Wiccan

[forest mesa]

also not death having immedate control over the road like she made it 💀

[mystic sun]

Rio a opp now for taking Alice Lila Sharon and Nickolas

😔

[sage drum]

Also I was originally feeling like I was gonna be upset at not seeing Wanda but ever since Jen mentions Nicky I kinda surrendered the idea so ig I’m okay with it especially seeing how it ended

[forest mesa]

like lady deaths the type of person to not work on a group project and take credit for it

[sage drum]

Gagatha

Ghagatha

[round pulsar]

AAAH90FDSAJOPFDGSFDGA

[robust moon]

well the next project is What If...? season 3, which I wonder if they're gonna tie that into the MCU finally during the climatic final episodes

[round pulsar]

billy all along

[forest mesa]

but since death owns the road....

[round pulsar]

😭 😭 😭

[forest mesa]

what is she gonna use it for

[mystic sun]

More body’s 🤷‍♂️

[sage drum]

I’m still losing it

So good

Oh my god

[forest mesa]

she should use it to find a woman that actually loves her

oh wait

shell never find that

💀

[quasi dome]

Honestly Rio should be grateful. Billy made it so she can get witches more easily with the road now!

[mystic sun]

Rio’s face when Agatha didn’t want anything to do with her

And Agatha becoming a gosht knowing rio hates them

[sage drum]

Rio took Nicky I will never defend her

Her crown tho

[rustic spindle]

the comics giving Agatha her youth to match the MCU:
the mcu aging Agatha to match the comics:

[sage drum]

Her whole costume

[quasi dome]

Do yall think Rio hates Agatha for being a ghost, or is she an exception

[sage drum]

And the end how it mirrors wizard of oz with the house and storm (wasn’t really a tornado but same idea)

[sage drum]

Oh I think she hates her for it

[quasi dome]

she looks REALLY good as a ghost ngl, like i prefer the look so much more

[sage drum]

She’s like I kissed u wya???? Excuse me??? Ghost???

[forest mesa]

wait so if wanda takes that road

[sage drum]

I LOVE how it was done

[forest mesa]

that means wiccan technically brought her back

[mystic sun]

Also Agatha bounding Jen I was shocked 😮

[sage drum]

Force ghost Agatha

[quasi dome]

if the road is just now created I wonder how they're going to handle Natalya Maximoff (if they ever do)

[robust moon]

Wanda is dead tho what

[rustic spindle]

I wonder what Jen is gonna show up in in the future

[robust moon]

prob not much

[sage drum]

Just bc Wanda’s body is dead don’t mean her brain is idk

I just simply refuse to believe the narrative that she’s dead because it’s too easy to argue

[quasi dome]

Id expect a cameo here and there if anything. Just until she finds her own team

[sage drum]

If they ever do like another magic based series and they need a special potion idk

[robust moon]

She's probably not dead forever but I highly doubt we'll see her before Doomsday. The only other project I can see her appearing in is Vision

[rustic spindle]

i mean, Midnight Sons is always an option

[quasi dome]

shes def not permanently dead, that'd be such a waste of a character

[sage drum]

Nah she ain’t dead. She’s awaiting resurrection and I’m fine w that

[quasi dome]

true but i dont think they're gonna do that anytime soon

[sage drum]

And she probably will come back with some actual amnesia

[robust moon]

We already know what's coming out next year. 3 Movies, 3 Shows, 3 Animations. Doomsday is slated to release in May of 2026 so

[sage drum]

I just hope they don’t take three more years to return to WV storyline

That’s my only genuine concern

[quasi dome]

Its not that the Midnight Sons team isnt probable it's just they dont have a full roster yet, least to my knowledge

[sage drum]

Oh actually one complaint I have is I wish we had more action sequences with the Salem seven

[quasi dome]

^

[rustic spindle]

yea

[sage drum]

God I just love their costumes so much and they’re so nasty chattering around whispering Agatha ew I love them need more Salem seven

[rustic spindle]

thats my one thing really

[sage drum]

ohhh ohh wait yall

[rustic spindle]

for a witch show, we didnt see much witching taking place

[robust moon]

I was gonna type a whole thing on how we barely have any members for Midnight Sons but then I realized we do have a large list of characters they could pull from

[sage drum]

What if Salem seven series oop

Hopefully

[rustic spindle]

the entire series is just them staring into the camera and performing contortion

[forest mesa]

yall

wanda stans are saying she needs a big buff on twitter cause wiccans magic isnt fair 😭

[quasi dome]

I think it wouldve been nice to see them chasing agatha through the years in the final ep, but Im satisfied with the final ep

[robust moon]

Isn't Wiccan supposed to be stronger?

[quasi dome]

yes

[robust moon]

Thats what I thought

[quasi dome]

hes supposed to surpass wandas power once he learns it

[sage drum]

Yeah I honestly do blame the Salem seven’s downfall on maybe the fact that they used mostly/all practical effects? Maybe there was some stuff they wanted to do but would have needed cgi so instead of focusing on stuff they aren’t using like cgi they focus more on writing and whatever the actors can do for the camera I guess

[forest mesa]

they are upset for comic book accurecey

[sage drum]

Not that there’s anything wrong with the use of practical effects oh my god it’s one of the reasons I love the whole show but when projects use practical effects they tend to focus more on the writing and substance rather than the flashy stuff because the effects take more time and energy to create

[quasi dome]

Okay but now that we have Wiccan....wheres Hulking?🤨

where he at

[sage drum]

Idk im yapping now but yeah if Wandavision is a 10/10 then Agatha is a 9/10 and I’m okay with that

[sage drum]

Maybe he be in vision show

[quasi dome]

hopefully

[forest mesa]

i kinda want it to be eddie

[quasi dome]

it might be

[sage drum]

Personally I wouldn’t mind if they recast Wiccan and find someone who looks like Hulkling to play Hulkling

That’s just me tho

[rustic spindle]

why would they recast?

[sage drum]

They wouldn’t but I wouldn’t complain if they did is what I’m saying

[covert dirge]

Why did Agatha son had to die?

[sage drum]

He the illness ig

[quasi dome]

fate

[covert dirge]

Oh

[sage drum]

Yeah that

[rustic spindle]

from what i ath

*gathered

he was supposed to die at birth

[sage drum]

Also Billy’s memorial to Mrs hart, Alice and Lilia 😭

[rustic spindle]

i was convinced they were gonna be revived ngl

i kept waiting for it

and it never came

[sage drum]

That bc they dead

[rustic spindle]

well yes i would assume so

you kinda need to be dead to be revived

[sage drum]

Don’t kno y u were waiting for their resurrection tbh I think u set ur own self up for disappointment with that one

[round pulsar]

I'm still processing the version of Billy, it's certainly a darker version than the one in comics but at the same time it gave more complexity and personality to the character

[rustic spindle]

Omg wait

We didn’t get a post credit

That’s only just occurred to me

[forest mesa]

theres talk about a few deleted scenes

onee of those was rumored to be agatha kills to attempt to revive nick but also to keep him alive

[dapper summit]

Wait I forgot about this lemme watch 😭

I just got back from dinner brb

[forest mesa]

also can we talk about how joe got the best constume design

dont worry yall im on my way to steal their role and their fit 😏

[inner umbra]

why did they take the time to show death taking alice but they never showed death taking lilia

[feral relic]

Or Sharon

I’ve cried 3 times

While wearing my Sharon costume

I’m not ok

I need more

[feral relic]

Literally was tearing up the fact there wasn’t one

[inner umbra]

sharon wasnt a witch so maybe they didnt need to, but lilia definitely. Like we saw alice get magic sucked and we never saw lilia actually hit the ground

[feral relic]

It’s cause Lilia isn’t actually dead

she’s back in the beginning

But her fate is sealed

That’s what I think

[inner umbra]

then that means if she reaches the end she should be able to save alice >_> with her power

like in terminator

lol

[round pulsar]

cuz lilias arc was finished i think,ppl were still wondering about Alice and how she just got rid of her cursed just to die in next episode

[feral relic]

time to go to Instagram and watch all of them give their last thoughts on their roles and cry

I made a voice note the whole time so I would never forget this moment

[feral relic]

And the fact that the road never existed

mind boggling

it was Agatha all along once again

(Well technically Billy)

But she said nothing

and why was Alice’s only part at the beginning yet one of the most emotional scenes😭😭😭😭😭

[forest mesa]

just a reminder for yall even though billy made the road based on what agatha discussed with rio, Rio/death now owns the road/controls it

[weary bone]

how if billy closed the road

the door to it

[forest mesa]

since billy creates concepts that means although he closed the door the concept [now reality] is not something he has too much control over dude to lack of mastery of his power

so though the door is physically closed anyone can open a door now

which again luckily its udner rios control

[idle sage]

I just finished the episode...wow the theory was true

It was Billy all along 💀😧

it was one of the most beautiful projects in the mcu, episode 7 was magnificent

I imagine Jen lying at home at night being told that she could have gotten her powers back from the start by doing what she always wanted to do from the start...jumping on Agatha to pull out her hair 😂

now that the series is finished, I will try to write a text on the comics version of the characters for those who are interested

Agatha Harkness: Although Agatha Harkness is an ancient being who survived the Salem Witch Trials, she debuted as the magical guardian of Franklin Richards in FANTASTIC FOUR (1961) #94 by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Agatha eventually mentored Wanda Maximoff and taught her about her magical abilities.
When Mephisto absorbed the spirits of Wanda's sons, Agatha erased the Scarlet Witch's memories to stabilize her, but Wanda later killed her in madness and sadness. Her ghost continued to advise Wanda. Eventually, the spirit of Wanda's late mother Natalya Maximoff revived Agatha on the Witches' Road.
During her tenure at the Strange Academy, Agatha was physically de-aged(to be like her mcu version i think🥲). She also created a new version of the Darkhold, a powerful spellbook, in the form of a child during this time.
for a long time she was not only Wanda's mentor, she also watched over her and even discovered and revealed to Wanda that she was a nexus being (important beings in each reality who are powerful and represent balance ) she was a mother figure to the young witch

JENNIFER KALE:Continuing her family’s legacy with the Cult of Zhered-Na, Jennifer Kale made her first appearance in Adventure into Fear (1970) #11, created by Steve Gerber and Rich Buckler. Residing in the Florida Everglades, Jennifer became a trusted ally of Man-Thing, often using her Atlantean magic to help him protect reality.
Beyond her efforts to aid heroes like Ghost Rider (Danny Ketch) who is also his cousin, Jennifer frequently collaborates with supernatural heroes as a member of groups like the Legion of Night and Doctor Strange's Witches. She also played a pivotal role in defending the Marvel Universe from a Marvel Zombies invasion, beginning with Marvel Zombies 3 (2008) #1 by Fred Van Lente and Kev Walker.She is a friend and ally of Wanda and Steven Strange

LILIA CALDERU: Revered as the Witch-Queen of the Romani, Lilia Calderu is a formidable mage who leads her people and preserves their heritage.Queen Lilia possesses the unique ability to decipher the ancient secrets within the Book of Cagliostro and can impose her will upon others, manipulating even powerful sorcerers like Dr. Stephen Strange. On occasion, she disguises herself as an old woman when meeting strangers, adding to her aura of mystery. For a period, she dons the Serpent Crown, a powerful artifact that amplifies her magical powers though it leaves her constantly fearful of being deprived of its strength.Queen Lilia possesses the unique ability to decipher the ancient secrets within the Book of Cagliostro and can impose her will upon others, manipulating even powerful sorcerers like Dr. Stephen Strange. On occasion, she disguises herself as an old woman when meeting strangers, adding to her aura of mystery. For a period, she dons the Serpent Crown, a powerful artifact that amplifies her magical powers though it leaves her constantly fearful of being deprived of its strength.She was in MARVEL PREMIERE (1972) #12 by Steve Englehart, Mike Friedrich, and Frank BrunnerDespite her impressive feats, Calderu was mortally wounded by a beast called the Living Gargoyle, which Strange killed.

ALICE GULLIVER ( Aka the WU): Alice Gulliver was the daughter of August Wu, the mystical protector of Hong Kong known as the Coral Shore, and Detective Sergeant Adam Gulliver. While her mother envisioned her future in the family business under her grandmother, Madam Lan, Alice dreamed of following in her father’s footsteps by joining the police force. However, one tragic night in her teenage years, Alice's life changed forever when her mother was killed by a demonic assailant wielding dark magic. The next morning, Alice discovered that her brown hair had turned a striking red—the same shade as her mother's. Later, her father, too, met a tragic end at the hands of a member of the Chinese Triads.Alice blended magic with her police work when she made her debut in Doctor Strange: Last Days of Magic (2016) #1, a story by James Robinson and Mike Perkins. Alongside the Scarlet Witch, she confronted the formidable Dark Tongji and ultimately shot the criminal magician, bringing him to his end. She was recently in the new series of comics of the Scarlet Witch

[sinful moat]

finale was so good

[twin sphinx]

I’m curious what’s Rios connection with hela if there is one yknow….goddess of death……then death incarnate

[feral relic]

I need Rio spinoff

[sage drum]

I need mother ags in this game

[feral relic]

Also the way I was so shook when Agatha was about to abandon Billy

[sage drum]

For skins she can have: Classic Old Lady (default skin maybe, with ghostly variant), Wandavision 50’s look, MCU look, AAA Signature look, AAA 70’s look, AAA ghost Agatha, oh also maybe current restored youth with the white streak too, etc etc etc

I will giv all me money to this game

[feral relic]

Kathryn Hahn broke so many walls