lore-chat

[somber latch]

"...perhaps Jean would have been able to read the mind of the mysterious figure watching them from across the street... a mind that somehow had the exact same thought patterns as the X-woman sitting across the table"

So, the same thought patterns as Rogue. Which would imply Captain Marvel? But Captain Marvel doesn't look like Rogue

And Mystique doesn't think like Rogue

I've seen people suggest it's a Sinister clone of Rogue, so somewhat Rivals original

That would also line up with Cyclops being one of the characters. X-Men against Sinister and evil clones of themselves

Would make a cool battlepass theme

[simple storm]

Why doesn’t miller just buy the gallery card from the battlepass then read it before waffling

We might have to wait until we get the actual gallery card

[chilly nacelle]

Well depends what the description means by x woman

[somber latch]

Rogue lol

[chilly nacelle]

If the x woman means Jean then Madeline if it’s rogue then idk who they’re talking about

[somber latch]

Its the X woman sitting across the table from Jean

[simple storm]

Miller had to correct himself, it’s someone similar to rogue not Jean

[simple storm]

No one said X woman just a woman

[solid grove]

The more I look at her, the less I think she is a new character and the more I think she is a Rogue variant. The way she is dressed, her hair, and the X really don’t scream Captain Marvel to me. I could see Mystique as the more likely option but also not sure. With us due to go back to Hellfire (and it being the next season), this does remind me of the Rogue hellfire outfit (2021/2023) with the shoulder pads and green/yellow tints. Maybe they are setting up an event where the villains are variants. We are in the lead-up to Doomsday and we know the game will be working in tandem to promote the movie.

[simple storm]

They’re not gonna release a second rogue as a playable character

[solid grove]

Who said it has to be a new character?

[simple storm]

I misread what you wrote I skimmed it

[solid grove]

Could just be a villain of the season thing. The art also hints at Cyclops and Devil Dinosaur

[simple storm]

I was hoping for moon girl but the “woman” doesn’t look like her

[solid grove]

All good! Sorry responded at the same time you sent your message!

[somber latch]

Whether it's clones or timeline variations, I suspect this Rogue will be one of another counter- X-Men team, so they'll all have evil versions, and that will be the Battlepass theme. Cyclops and Moon Girl playable as teased

[solid grove]

Maybe it’s just Devil Dinosaur but I feel like they are a duo character. They might just be hinting at him to hint at both of them

[solid grove]

Exactly my thoughts! I think we’re getting an X-Mean team 👀👀

[somber latch]

Lol yeah

[solid grove]

Madelyn skin, Evil Rogue skin (she did have a villain era iirc), good Magneto, etc.

Hell maybe she is from a timeline where her and hubby Magneto are leading the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants

[simple storm]

In white fox lore there’s presumably something about an incursion so maybe

[solid grove]

Ooo yes! I’m more and more set on this idea now

[somber latch]

That makes sense

[solid grove]

If I remember correctly, this wouldn’t be the first time either that the final lore album drop revealed the villain as well as the main characters (didn’t we get a tease for Knull that way or am I completely wrong?)

[somber latch]

Yeah warlock got a psychic warning

[solid grove]

Yeah I’m dying on that hill until someone inevitably tells me I’m wrong lol. We’re getting Hellfire with the Emma skin that was promised in Season 2

[somber latch]

So who could the main villain be

Evil Charles??

[solid grove]

Maybe. Or maybe his sister Cassandra.

[agile nest]

i think it's captain marvel

[somber latch]

Captain Marvel doesn't look like Rogue though

[agile nest]

it didn't say she looked like rogue, it said she had the same thoughts as rogue, and rogue permanently drained a lot of her abilities and personality from captain marvel

[somber latch]

It's both

[chilly nacelle]

Ah you know I think it’s a skrull since they can also copy memories and that’ll lead to captain marvel

[somber latch]

The first part says she looks like Rogue, the second part says they have the same mind patterns

[chilly nacelle]

Exactly what a skrull could do

[agile nest]

where does it say she looks like her?

[somber latch]

In the first part
I'll have to type it out since I can't send screenshots

[agile nest]

thanks

actually i just found a more zoomed in shot of the mystery woman and yeah she looks a lot like rogue

the skrull idea looks pretty good now

[somber latch]

With Fisk ousted and Manhattan free, Rogue and Jean grab coffee at a nostalgic spot from their school days to reminisce. Another shockwave suddenly bursts from Alchemax HQ while a woman eerily similar to [Rogue] watches from a distance.

“[…] And I get the sense he’s closer than we think. It’s just a familiar feeling I have inside. Something warm… and comforting…” […] she might have noticed the faint pulse of red energy emanating from the top of Alchemax HQ.

And if the café hadn’t been on a busy Manhattan street, perhaps Jean would have been able to read the mind of the mysterious figure watching them from across the street… a mind that somehow had the exact same thought patterns as the X-Woman sitting across the table…”

The problem with the skrull idea is that she's clearly wearing an evil costume. Skrull would be wearing the same costume

[agile nest]

it kind of looks like monica rambeau's costume but that doesn't make any sense.

[somber latch]

Or maybe a more alien version. But a Skrull wouldn't be "evil rogue"

[agile nest]

maybe it's a 2099 character?

[somber latch]

Yeah, that lines up with the incursion mentioned in the other lore

[solid grove]

I don’t remember any that fit tbh

[steep jasper]

ooooo how did cyclops amd devil dinosaur get teased exactly?

[agile nest]

seems like rogue is still alive in the 2099 comics, so maybe she'll just be part of the lore and cyclops and devil dino are the heroes. they were teased with cyclop's ruby glasses and a devil dinosaur plush being in the cabinet behind jean grey

[steep jasper]

oh that's sick i was hoping devil dinosaur was playable someday

[agile nest]

the red glow they mention from the alchemax building could be literally anything. it could be modern day doom doing something with dracula's chronovium, it could be cyclops blinking, it could be omega red, it could be the gem of cytorrak, it could be the mkraan crystal. idk

[chilly nacelle]

Idk much about the 2099 verse but could a futuristic rogue form 2099 maybe be why we see a red glow from the character

[simple storm]

I feel it’s most likely another cyclops hint along with the glasses and jean line

[agile nest]

could also have to do with mephisto or hell since they were hinting about that in season 5. it could be the hood

[simple storm]

Not a clear enough indicator

[agile nest]

i think cyclops is all but confirmed, but i'm on the fence about devil dino vs captain marvel. leaning towards devil dino

[solid grove]

Is it me or is Rogue, if you REALLY zoom in, wearing ruby glasses

[pale dagger]

Did you guys know all the characters in marvel and marvel rivals are based off of me? Because I have a lot of aura and they are all based off of me

[solid grove]

No way! Which one of you are going to be the next 6 characters?

[simple storm]

I hope devil Dino mean moon girl comes with like a Peni Parker situation where moon girl rides DD

[chilly nacelle]

If it is devil Dino I hope it works like moongirl rides him and if the hp reaches 0 he runs away leaving moon girl with her own kit and can recall him when she reaches 100 ult charge like hulk but in normal ult she sends devil dino on a rampage npc while also using her base kit

[agile nest]

i just realised we're gonna have two dd's if they add devil dino

[solid grove]

Ok so assuming we got Season 8 correct and it's Cyclops and DDino. Who would yall want in S9 and what roles? 😅

[agile nest]

i've been thinking ursa major would actually be pretty good for the current roster

[chilly nacelle]

There’s still ghost rider and hood left forgot who else has been building up

[solid grove]

Ooooo... very out of field pick! Guessing as vanguard?

[simple storm]

I misread the gallery card text its worded weirdly but to clarify for everyone the woman has the same thought patterns as the “X-woman across the table” (which being rogue)

So most likely it’s Captain marvel

[solid grove]

Wasn't there hit-monkey, nightcrawler and captain marvel as well? But really who would YOU want?

[chilly nacelle]

I just want my tanks so captain marvel apocalypse ghost rider and any others that have been teased for possible tanks

[agile nest]

what if there was a secret third x-woman across the table who's invisible or like the size of a flea or something

[simple storm]

To clarify because it’s weirdly worded, it’s not a x-woman, it’s someone that has similar thought patterns to “the x-woman across the table” that being rogue. It’s just very weirdly/poorly worded

[chilly nacelle]

We’ll play overwatch in 5 more years

[mossy heron]

No, Overwatch is going quantity over quality

[mossy heron]

You mean the gallery card that's clearly teasing goblin queen and Cyclops?

[simple storm]

It’s not Madeline, there was a correction that the figure has the same thought patterns as rogue not Jean

[worn lichen]

which is weird because it really doesn’t look like captain marvel in the background

[simple storm]

Not the first time Rivals would have redesigned a character, some people also think it’s just an evil rogue that’ll be a skin for her

[somber latch]

This character both thinks and looks like Rogue. This doesn't apply to captain marvel, who doesn't look like her

You can clearly see Rogue's hair on the character

[simple storm]

I wouldn’t say “clearly” but I won’t deny the possibility, if that’s the case then maybe moon girl of the devil Dino plush alludes to her

I think I know what black cats powers are, in some of the gallery cards you see some skeleton guy called the “gilded saint” which I looked up and he’s like the patron god of the thieves or something and her powers seem to be calling on his powers to give her stuff

[worn lichen]

I was gonna say it'd be weird for there to be another Rogue and then I realized, well duh it would just be a rogue from a different timeline lol

Rogue is from the present timeline right?

[simple storm]

Kinda I think? Krakoa was displaced to 2099 but I think originally from present

[somber latch]

Yeah she is. A rogue variant would line up with the White Fox lore mentioning Incursoins

[lyric briar]

It would be interesting for them to start exploring variants. We have heard of multiple Mantises but I think that is it so far.

[worn lichen]

yeah makes sense and lines up with them seeming more like they'll be a story character rather than a hero tease

[somber latch]

There's been some involvement, like the Scarlet Witch variant where she's sorcerer supreme. It's mostly just been background lore for the costumes

[worn lichen]

that's just the main rivals scarlet witch no? she's the sorceress supreme of the collapsed timeline and one of the few remaining heroes from there

[somber latch]

Who was the one that died then

[simple storm]

Her Stephen I think

[somber latch]

Oh I must have gotten mixed up

Also completely unrelated topic
How are Gambit and Rogue smooching in the wedding MVP. Are we not supposed to question it

[worn lichen]

I think there's a magneto story that says the present timeline wanda is dead

[simple storm]

Wasn’t there something where she has better control of her powers or something

[somber latch]

That's helpful

[fleet imp]

FINALLY, seems like they're setting up doom to be playable

[somber latch]

Why what's new

[worn lichen]

.

[somber latch]

Oh yeah they announced that ages ago. He'll probably be one of the characters in December

[simple storm]

Either November or December around season 11

[simple storm]

Guys, who’s rogue red

[worn lichen]

that was a recent thing in Age of Revelation where Rogue was split into 2 versions of herself, the reason being solely that that it was a compromise so the comic writers could use Rogue in 2 different places in the same story lol

she was split by the Collector into rogue green and rogue red, gambit stayed with rogue green (who later sacrificed herself by absorbing Galactus to defeat him), while rogue red doesn't like gambit because he chose rogue green, and she went off doing other things

[cold vale]

Doom is coming

[simple storm]

Some people were saying the figure in the gallery card was rogue red in tandem with the devil Dino plushy because apparently moongirl made her bracelets or something but isn’t that too recent to pull from/adapt?

[worn lichen]

yeah its very recent which makes me doubt its an adaptation, and its also just not necessary to adapt in the first place

[simple storm]

Could sinister be the main villain next season if it’s clones? Like he’s working at alchemax or something

[arctic hemlock]

Sinister would be such a peak addition to the game’s story & roster 🔥

[simple storm]

Villain usually means non playable most of the time besides Ultron which was once

[arctic hemlock]

I’m definitely waiting for the era of villains for the roster picks, we could use some more tbh

Sinister, Sinister Six, etc

[simple storm]

We might be getting Thanos and doom assuming the movie tie in mimics the same 1v6 mode the first movie tie in will have with Loki

[chilly nacelle]

Getting characters is only possible if it’s lore possible

So to get villains they would need an overarching threat to the heroes and even villains

[rapid bay]

100%
could definitely also be a Savage Land thing with Devil

[chilly nacelle]

Hey is it possible that one figure in the last gallery card could be a corrupted or something captain marvel

Since it sais she has same thought patterns but not completely it could be referencing captain marvel’s thoughts inside of rogue from she absorbed her powers

[stray flower]

I'm not sure where all the looks like Rogue is coming from, the appearance is nearly identical to X-Revolution Emma

Black Outfit with open center and Blond hair with the same swirl

Not sure why Rogue would have the same tought patterns as Emma though

[simple storm]

There was text that said there’s a figure that has the same thought patterns as rogue

[quartz brook]

what is this

[stray flower]

It's definitely peculiar, again with how much semblance it has to X-Revolution, not a Rogue Skin

[worn lichen]

outfit looks like that emma outfit, hair looks like rogues, glowing red eyes, has the brain patterns of rogue

I'm pretty sold on it being a clone created by Mr. Sinister atm

could very much be a combination of various mutants

lines up with it being a mutant focused season with cyclops, probably including this year's hellfire gala

[stray flower]

Oh yeah, Hellfire Gala is coming, Mutant focused season is a no brainer

[simple storm]

Cyclops is pretty much 99% confirmed from 3 different clues

The main debate is who the second character is, either it’s Captain marvel going off the thought pattern line
Or it’s moon girl+dd going off the dd plush

[worn lichen]

and the only way that this is captain marvel is if they're doing some wild new design for her which you have to stretch to come up with any resemblance

also keep in mind there's been 0 sign of moon girl

[simple storm]

Other than dd himself but I worry they might just release dd without her

[stray flower]

I doubt it's MG+DD, they ain't getting invited to the gala

Those two will arrive later, probably with another Monstrous character

[worn lichen]

would make a lot of sense for devil to be leading to something with the savage land

I would assume that the gala isnt going to be the main focus of season 8, just an event that happens during it

so I don't think it really matters if devil would be able to go to the gala or not

I also could absolutely see them releasing just devil without moon girl, and she comes as a separate character at some point, but honestly it's just difficult to speculate when we have no idea how either could be relevant to the story at this stage, especially when its very likely to be a mutant/x-men focused season

[simple storm]

I mean first x-men season we got Ultron

[worn lichen]

yeah im not arguing that it wont make sense to get devil dino, i just mean that its hard to guess what the story will be rn

my best guess is the savage land will be involved because that's the most logical link between the x-men and devil

[worn lichen]

just saw a post saying season 8 will clone themed skins, which if true means this is probably correct ^

hulk bros pack it up, maybe season 9 will be our season

[chilly nacelle]

Is hellfire gala a seasonal yearly event or just a yearly small event because we might get Emma’s voted skin next season and cyclops plus that theme would fit in maybe someone took control of krakoas immortality eggs to make clones

[worn lichen]

we dont really know what theyre gonna do with it, because season 2, the gala was the whole theme of the season, and they did the voting event where you could vote on a hero to get a skin in the next year's gala

but either way it lines up well with what we know so far of season 8

[simple storm]

I hope we get moon girl

[simple juniper]

I think they ruined this season 7 with trash theme

[dapper inlet]

this isnt lore at all 😭

[simple storm]

How so, are they not referring to the general theme of espionage/fighting Fisk

Because I agree I’m not that interested narratively

Although I’ll also admit the story is better than I was expecting since I was dooming a bit but I’m still waiting for something better

[supple flume]

Hey can we ffs get a Hulk movie? Idc if its MCU or some other studio. I need a Hulk movie

[oak swallow]

Agreed, its been far too long

[simple storm]

We need a dedicated marvel animated universe like DC, marvel has never been consistent with constantly rebooting spider-man

[median oxide]

Bro is spitting facts! We need a great Hulk movie right now!

[warped pine]

So as Data Center's become an environmental problem across the US, do you ever think about how Stark Tower is probably mostly just one big server to run his AI?

[zinc zinc]

So excited for white fox

[terse spruce]

Yello

[rapid marsh]

Doctor doom op

[shy cliff]

yo

[echo totem]

Marvel rivals is a good game

[strange lava]

yo

[remote bramble]

Lore

[unreal cradle]

Yo

[untold raven]

The lore is definitely heading towards cyclops next season

[flat spire]

Yo

[raw nest]

hi

[rain hawk]

Peak Chat 💔

[potent hare]

hi

[round fjord]

Iron man dies

[mystic oar]

What's the lore behind Hela getting punk child skin?

[calm forum]

👀

[limpid basin]

Hi

[thick axle]

hi

[reef stratus]

was there a lore entry on what happened with the new marauders or are they just a mystery now

[tepid tinsel]

hello

[prisma ether]

[cunning garden]

[sacred pebble]

Hi

[neat gate]

a

[mystic oar]

Hey

[jaunty swan]

four

[radiant badge]

[latent bronze]

[dawn zephyr]

[honest fog]

Jeff

[night compass]

[celest pagoda]

where's more venom and ultron lore? I WANT THE BACKSTORY FOR THE ROBOT BOI

[limpid pollen]

iron fist is a goated character

[final pebble]

.

[ocean cedar]

45\

[simple storm]

Last time venom was relevant was like season 3 when he fought Knull, Ultron hasn’t done anything since season 2

[upper drum]

[fierce moat]

Hello

[primal needle]

I too want more Ultron lore bro, I hope he doesn’t wind up in the same spot as Ramattra in OW

[simple storm]

Important characters for each season:
season 1-F4, Moon knight, iron man, squirrel girl, blade (captured), strange, Wanda, whoever got gothic skins
Season 2- X-men, Ultron, captain America, Hawkeye, iron fist
Season 3- Jean, blade, Venom, Wanda, Rocket, whoever else got symbiote and phoenix skins
Season 4- daredevil, Angela, iron fist, whoever else got immortal beast skins
Season 5- gambit and rogue, maybe rocket and C&D because thieves guild
Season 6- Deadpool, Elsa, card skins, pirate skins
Season 7-white fox, black cat, whoever is getting ESU skins and whoever got arrested by kingpin (somehow Adam)

[chilly nacelle]

This feels like the theme for a marvel rivals show

[maiden jackal]

thx, its very easy fo make my vids now

[simple storm]

I might have missed someone but I think I said the most important ones

[arctic skiff]

[chilly nacelle]

Venom might come back either during mephisto season or when we get the beyonders because of his third lore referencing the ivory kings

[simple storm]

Most if not all locked lore tabs have placeholder names that get replaced when characters get new lore

[chilly nacelle]

What then what’s the point I wanted marvel rivals to go deep cosmological

[chilly nacelle]

But beyonders or something to do with them might still be true since mephisto now has those pipes he got from the collector

[arctic skiff]

We are probabmy getting a new spidey skin in s 7.5 bc he appears in a gallery card

[pulsar sluice]

Jeff

[high crystal]

What's the lore of Venom in this?

[cosmic saffron]

.

[simple storm]

Balance and double dps season aside
Season 3 had the best story conclusion where rocket was the one that killed Knull

[worn lichen]

yeah rocket's had a surprising amount of story involvement/relevance

[simple storm]

Revived Magik too after Ultron killed her

Idk what’s going on in the rivals comics (not the gallery cards one), were we supposed to have a hydra season or something? We had designs for zola and hive in it

[ruby heart]

I have so much lore to learn 🥲

[tawdry talon]

Same

[river raft]

Wow

[fallow idol]

What was the agency called that white fox worked at

[simple storm]

Tiger division i think

[surreal mango]

hi

[fallow idol]

That what it was called

[hot sierra]

South Korea's National Intelligence Service (NIS)

[fallow idol]

Ty

[vagrant fiber]

Justice for jeff, when he throws people off the map during his ultimate, it counts as his kills.

[tawdry talon]

👋🏼

[hollow leaf]

baba

[stoic summit]

jeff

[charred sundial]

wow lore

[simple storm]

Are these people bots or something why are people just spamming emojis or saying unrelated stuff

[tall solstice]

[fossil dune]

Cap's new lore page talks about Parker Robbins. that means we're getting something to do with The Hood.

[ebon cloak]

Hey

[rough sequoia]

Hello

[distant ether]

Hi

[minor cipher]

[simple storm]

Probably not next season as there’s no hints for him, maybe later season but me personally I’d rather not for the rest of the year after getting Elsa, white fox and depending who we get in season 8 with cyclops. I’m not against obscure characters I just wish they picked better ones like dr voodoo and nova

[rapid bay]

bro this channel is just dead internet theory

[naive iron]

Oop

[wintry wing]

.

[stone roost]

To gain points for the new challenge I’m guessing

[fringe steppe]

Hi

[wind wedge]

i

[strong pecan]

So like when a character gets its 3 lore slots filled they stop being relevant?

[rapid bay]

No they can still be in the lore

[simple storm]

Maybe they’ll add more, just that they chose 3 as the minimum for each but could add more later with a scroll bar or something

[meager viper]

Jeff is a shark👍

[raw shoal]

Jeff is not human👍

[elfin steppe]

For those who didn’t know, Jeff the Land Shark is a genetically altered “land shark” in the Marvel Comics universe who first appeared in 2018, created by Kelly Thompson and Daniele Di Nicuolo, and comes from experiments likely done by groups like A.I.M., where animals were modified with advanced science to survive outside their natural environments, explaining what he is and how he exists as a shark that can walk on land; his exact origin location isn’t clearly shown but is implied to be secret labs used by villain organizations, placing his creation in the modern Marvel timeline after events like Secret Wars, when strange new beings became more common; Jeff’s life really begins when he’s found and adopted by Gwenpool, who names him and becomes his caretaker, turning him from an experiment into a companion and answering the key “who” in his story; he later joins the West Coast Avengers in Los Angeles alongside heroes like Kate Bishop and America Chavez, where he helps in missions using his durability, agility, and weird ability to swallow things way bigger than himself, showing how he contributes despite not having typical powers; after the team splits, Jeff keeps appearing with characters like Deadpool and eventually stars in It’s Jeff!, where his adventures take place in different locations and focus on his chaotic, curious, food-obsessed personality, often solving problems by accident; overall, Jeff’s story is about how a lab experiment became one of Marvel’s most loved and wholesome characters, known for loyalty, resilience, and cartoon-like abilities that let him survive almost anything while bringing humor and heart to the Marvel Universe.

[hallow tangle]

any1 wanna play ranked im silver rn…

[flint imp]

Because of the Season Challenge I assume

[gleaming oracle]

I’d love to see more lore about White Fox

[simple storm]

She’s the nepo child’s friend

[tiny gorge]

Can I ask something about the Twisted Nightmare stuff without sounding odd?

Okay:

Everyone’s nightmare skins make sense.

• Doctor Strange and the Scarlet Witch are nightmare mages who rule over a dark reality of nightmares

• Cap is fighting an endless battle without rest or humanity

• Moon Knight is grappling with darkness dominating and Khonshu’s apparent absence.

• Those last two make sense as nightmares, but… what is Peni’s supposed to be?

[bright prism]

If I had a Twitch (not saying I do) but it would be tashields and drops would in fact be on….IF I had one ofc as a vanguard main

[simple storm]

That’s a cool read on the skins, I didn’t think about it like that, I just thought it was generic spooky theme. Maybe something like fear of losing her sense of self, being a symbol of fear and no Peni, existing as an accessory to SP//DR than its pilot

[tiny gorge]

I mean… if you read the flavor text, there’s clearly a lore they’re doing tied to a cursed video tape in the Collector’s custody.

[simple storm]

I haven’t read those yet, might later

They haven’t rereleased season 3 battlepass right? I bring this up because given black cat likes the black suit we might see its rerelease in 7.5, maybe even accessory changes to the black suit like fixing the logo and eyes. That or straight up a new black suit that’s not the symbiote version

[median pier]

Nah they haven’t, I think the last battle pass they rereleased was the Season 1 battle pass. But the devs do plan on rereleasing more battle passes as the seasons progress

[copper wharf]

Working on reading all the lore for rivals.. all is going well, gonna dig into some comics too

[broken hawk]

[distant ether]

[marble stump]

[solar kite]

buff hulk

[worn lichen]

indeed, hulk is quite buff

[modern flint]

Anyone know who that skeleton guy is in one of the new picture thingys I forgot the name of? Seems like fisk is making a deal with them in the new maps ending screen things

[normal sequoia]

I had to look up white fox, didn't know the lore or anything lol. These korean heros are popping up like crazy.

[simple storm]

The gilded saint, patron god of the thieves guild I think. I can’t say how I know but I feel he’s involved with black cats upcoming kit

[simple storm]

She’s only in the game because she’s friends with Luna the nepo child

[normal sequoia]

I won't be suprise if she get popular. skin galore incoming 🤣

[harsh patrol]

Peak

[modern flint]

Oh cool so the thieves guild skins kind of tie in with this season

[balmy hearth]

real

[simple storm]

Someone more knowledgeable than me about gambit will have to verify that but the vibe I got is that there’s like different branches of the thieves guild. Gilded saint appeared in black cat Vol 2 I don’t think gambit was in it/related to it

I haven’t actually read the black cat comic I just looked up gilded saint and spouting what I found

[rapid bay]

Watch gambit and black cat get a stupid busted teamup

[celest shuttle]

[vivid knot]

Will Rogue lose her chronovium powers (yellow vfx) in the future when the chronovium storyline is over? (pls say yes)

[ocean scaffold]

the new map looks promising

[bright warren]

So... is Hela related to Loki and Odin or not?

[rapid bay]

No? Chronovium isn’t a storyline, Chronovium is a material

[vivid knot]

Right..! But will the storyline focus on chronovium forever?

[gray ledge]

when are they going to release new Strange stories its been the entire games existence since hes gotten anything new. sad.

[rapid bay]

it doesnt? chronovium is just a resource that was made by the Entanglement

[vivid knot]

Oh. I’m so out of it 💀 but my point is, will Rogue have the chronovium in her forever? Or will they be able to change it up in the future since she doesn’t hold onto powers forever

[rapid bay]

no, theres no reason to

[vivid knot]

I dont like some of her stuff. Like her being able to absorb damage and release it. They should’ve given that to Bishop or Captain Marvel.

[chilly nacelle]

The answer too that is when was the last time he was in the story

[worn lichen]

basically what you're asking is if they're gonna rework her kit, and that's somethng they've yet to do for any hero, not even black widow

so I don't see them ever reworking a hero's kit just for story reasons, especially because that effort could just go into making a brand new character instead

[vivid knot]

What about a vfx rework? If they just removed the yellow energy she’d look like her comic and animated series version. Where she has super strength and flight without vfx

[worn lichen]

the game initially used the MCU lore of Hela being their sister, but when Angela released, they retconned it and updated the relevant stories to use the comic lore

[bright warren]

So does Hela have no relatives now?

[worn lichen]

she still has the same connections to the same characters

[chilly nacelle]

Really cause Angela and Loki still call hela sister

[worn lichen]

i guess they dont outright say her exact relations, they just removed mentions of her being their sister, but presumably its the same as comics with Loki being the (adoptive) father

theyre probably being intentionally ambiguous with the exact relations

[worn lichen]

it's possible they could release a skin for Rogue that has different visual effects, but beyond that, they wouldnt randomly just remove them - only situation I can think of where that would happen would be if the entire community started complaining about it, which as that didn't happen at launch, it's not going to happen at all

[gilded blade]

I recall the Alchemax was front and center in some early images
all I know about that company is that Norman Osborn controls from the background

[worn lichen]

well, it's 2099 alchemax, so he's not in the picture

[vivid knot]

But like ugh I have so many questions for their dev team regarding their choices for rogue that affect future characters like captain marvel, bishop and photon

[worn lichen]

well, it doesn't really affect them 🤷

like, Rogue having a single ability hit where she blocks hits to charge up a punch doesn't affect Bishop who his whole kit would presumably be designed around absorbing and sending back damage

[gilded blade]

well there is the Galactic Goblin who is indeed Norman Osborn himself

[vivid knot]

We thought Rogue’s whole kit would be ability absorption focused so.. I doubt it. They’ll probs give Bishop one move similar to Rogue’s.

[grizzled shell]

Hi

[worn lichen]

well tbh it would be really complex if Rogue could absorb more than she does, but also Rogue falls into the category of being a character with super strength but not much else - Colossus, most Hulks/Abomination, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, etc fall into this category

They needed to give Rogue a unique kit but couldn’t just have her be entirely focused around stealing abilities because it’s just too complex, hence they have her absorb chronovium so she’s doing more than just basic punches and kicks

similarly, this is why they had jeff eat a bunch of powerful objects to explain him having abilities, because he’s normally much smaller and literally just a shark that can walk on land

or why Black Cat has been given the ring of zona by the Kingpin

Bishop has enough going for him that they can work with that they don’t need to give him something more - between advanced future tech, time travel, and energy absorption, it’s already enough on their own

[ornate oak]

hi

[brittle ivy]

hello

[fiery sentinel]

BP.

[chilly prawn]

Will the new cnd skin be legarndy ?

[elder ferry]

Deadpool

[simple storm]

If gambit and rocket weren’t I don’t see C&D being legendary

[lost kernel]

Are the rivals comics any good?

[compact thistle]

what is this chat

[mystic oar]

There's a rival comics?

[ancient marlin]

Scarlet Witch

[simple storm]

Discussing lore/story beats of rivals, like now season 7 is about kingpin arresting heroes blaming or scapegoating them for the 2099 incursion that’s happening (parts of 2099 neuva York appearing in present timeline New York), told black cats to steal lifeline tablet from the sanctum sanctorum. White is trying to stop her and save the nepo bab- I mean her friend Luna Snow. Rivals heroes are cosplaying as college students or staff to hide from kingpin or something and try to break out whoever kingpin arrested

[vague zephyr]

Is all the lore within Rivals?

Or is it scattered across YouTube and socials like some other games do for some reason

[simple storm]

Usually the gallery cards (they have text associated with them) you get from the events, you get some context from the maps. There are rivals infinity comics but I haven’t been following those tbh half the time it feels its doing its own thing but presumably it’s still related

[vague zephyr]

Thank you! I've read them but not actually looked if there was more outside available, I'm kind of glad you don't need outside sources to understand whats going on, and that what is available outside is additional info

[steady ridge]

I didn’t read the lore yet as I started playing two days ago, but I think that cloak and dagger are lovers.. but I heard some people saying that they’re siblings? So what’s the truth

[simple storm]

I think they’re literally married in the comics, but definitely in a relationship at least

[steady ridge]

ohhh okay thank uuu

[green stream]

Definitely not siblings!😭

[simple storm]

I forgot but their accessory ko animation is literally them kissing

[viscid kayak]

yo

[ocean coral]

hi

[spare wadi]

They're whole schtick is that they're the opposites attract mechanic

[rapid bay]

There are, but they’re not canon to the game

Xemnu’s my favorite vanguard!

[faint lagoon]

Is Kingpin really trying to fight Adam Warlock in the map Cinematics 😭

[magic ocean]

I have a lore question. Tf happened to the Iron Fist tournament in season 4? We were there, then we're suddenly at Gambit and Rogue's wedding, then we're in space again, and now we're back in new york, and we didn't get closure for the tournament? Who won? What happened?

[worn lichen]

the tournament hasnt happened yet

[simple storm]

Got paused for some reason

[chilly nacelle]

Tournament got delayed until we come back to it basically

[worn lichen]

in white fox's hero story its mentioned its not even delayed, its just that preparations for the tournament are still happening

[chilly nacelle]

I thought was delayed for a bit for zhulou to try to find some evidence or something to get rid of Doom I’ll have to read it again and the new white fox when I can

[agile geode]

If the game is very lore accurate who would be the best just based on how powerful they are in series/movies/comics?

[worn lichen]

hulk, thor, adam warlock, phoenix

[simple storm]

Isn’t Loki god of stories or something

[worn lichen]

yes, but it's a bit difficult to quantify

[dawn olive]

The tournament hasn't happened yet, the heros are still preparing for it

Besides that, has anyone identified or figured out the identity of the hand who Fisk is making a deal with?
Me and some friends discussed it and besides realizing that we may get ghost rider soon, they mostly thought it was Lady Death

[worn lichen]

it's the gilded saint

patron god of thieves or something like that

entirely unrelated to ghost rider or lady death

[dawn olive]

really?

Feels weird because of Cap's lore, they pratically spelled it out that we were getting ghost rider there

[onyx radish]

How did king pin become the mayor of New York?? Did he actually like win it fairly or did he rig the election?? I don’t see how he became the mayor if he’s an infamous villain.

[dawn olive]

Probably both

[onyx radish]

And why is he locking up hero’s?

[dawn olive]

Villain

[onyx radish]

Fair point, I feel dumb for asking that 😭 😭

[wheat obsidian]

WHOS GOOD AT BP AND CAN TRAIN ME DM ME

[onyx radish]

Wanda, Phoenix, Thor, and Adam, SG (Sg doesn’t really count bcs she’s a gag character but…)

[sharp relic]

what happened in s0 cus i started playing in s6 😭

[worn lichen]

parker robbins is The Hood, not ghost rider

[dawn olive]

he's both

[worn lichen]

nothing really happened in season 0, it was more just setting the stage, explaining the backstory of the maps and the events leading to the timestream entanglement, stuff like that

[worn lichen]

he was a ghost rider once temporarily; he's always been the Hood. He is very low on the list of the possible characters they would have be the ghost rider - the only real options are Johnny Blaze or Robbie Reyes as the ghost rider

[dawn olive]

It feels like something they would do though,

At the same time the way he talks feels in line for a ghost rider more than the hood.

[worn lichen]

yeah I mean it's like, imagine spider-man wasn't in the game, and you were speculating that they would add Norman Osborn as spiderman just because in a recent comic run, he filled in as spiderman when peter parker was missing in space (which is true, i'm not making that up)

this is the same kind of thing

[dawn olive]

What I mean is that I know very little of Parker Robbins, but the way he talks in the new lore, is far away from some two bit villain.

He wants revenge, wants those who are truly evil to suffer, and sees any in the ladder as ambiguously evil. He also sees the good in Cap and even agreed to work with him for a time.

[worn lichen]

yeah you do know very little

[dawn olive]

Rude.

You have to admit the way he talks is far from the way he acts as the hood.

[worn lichen]

i really dont know what to tell you

[dawn olive]

Let’s just agree to disagree and leave it there.

(Though I’m gonna @ you if I’m right)

[ebon crescent]

[simple storm]

Guys who’s your money on on who’s coming? Captain Marvel or Moon Girl? Or mystery third option

[astral portal]

They've been teasing cyclops a bit too!

[worn lichen]

you obviously just really want to see Ghost Rider in the game which is fine, you're just coping a bit too hard about it when there hasn't been any hints to Ghost Rider so far. It would be a crazy decision from NetEase for them to make Ghost Rider not one of the "main" ones (blaze, ketch, or reyes), but yeah I'll leave it at that

[simple storm]

So far Netease has been consistent with releasing at least 1 woman every season

[worn lichen]

none of the above, and up until season 7, each season has had 1 man and 1 woman (with exception of season 1 having the whole fantastic four), so I could easily see season 8 having two men (or 1 man and 1 dinosaur)

[simple storm]

Cyclops is a given hence why I said captain marvel or moon girl (with devil Dino)

I don’t want them to release devil Dino without moon girl

[dawn olive]

Moon girl, they already did the art for her in a side game as well

[simple storm]

Yh mystic mayhem, her and dd have been together in a bunch of games

[dawn olive]

Though not in season 8, maybe nine or ten.

[simple storm]

But the devil Dino plushy

[worn lichen]

i do honestly think they could be released as separate heroes, and if she was coming with Devil as one hero, I feel like there would've been a mention or hint about her by now

[dawn olive]

They’ve been teasing her a LOT, but I’m just not sure what the next season will be focused on.

We got the tournament, the intergalactic tour, a few other areas of focus.

I think though that the next one will either be a continuation of New York, or the intergalactic tour.

[worn lichen]

right now it's looking like season 8 will be mutant focused - it's almost been a year since the last hellfire gala and we know there's gonna be another, they're hinting at cyclops coming in season 8, and the 2nd Rogue being a clone created by Mr. Sinister is one of the best explanations ive heard for who she is, plus the rumors that season 8 will have a bunch of clone skins lines up with that

WHERE it's gonna take place, idk, but the Savage Land is the obvious link between X-Men/mutants and Devil Dino, so at least part of the season could take place there

[dawn olive]

I mean, we have yet to get the manor. A clone takeover of the x-men manor does make sense.

Though from the gallery card, it may also be the Alchemax building.

[worn lichen]

yeah and they seem to be hinting that Cyclops is being held captive inside Alchemax

[clear iris]

lore

[heavy sigil]

Hi

[jade shadow]

yall just type for the event 😭

[uncut coral]

So assuming Moon Girl is involved in season 8 with Devil Dinosaur (given the the collar), how exactly would the two be implemented in the battlefield?
Would Lunella stay behind to help from afar in the lore while Devil Dino joins the actual fight, or could two be “2 in 1” type character?

[tribal mango]

Is there lore about the odinforce Ultron skin?

[onyx radish]

They’ll probtably be like CnD and switch forms, or maybe devil Dino will have an ultimate where Moon girl rides him and they stomp on the ground.

[simple storm]

I’m thinking rider type character, moon girl on top of dd shooting rockets or something and dd does melee attacks

[worn lichen]

yes, in the comics, Ultron was imprisoned in a vibranium casket sealed with Asgardian runes, which due to circumstances ended up getting shot with an aging ray that inadvertently sent Ultron into the future in a new form made of vibranium with asgardian magic, and in this future he was able to defeat Odin and beoame the all-father

he came back to conquer the present, but was defeated when he was hit with the aging ray set to reverse, and as a result it also brought back Hank Pym as an old man, as Ultron had previously merged with him

[tribal flame]

This season’s story about this ancient tablet reminds me of one of Spider-Man’s early comics where Spiderman and Kingpin basically go to war over a tablet and Spiderman becomes a wanted fugitive again, I think this was after he had amnesia and temporarily allied Doc Oc, he got his memory back after fighting Khazar and Zabu. Anyways, Silvermane ends up getting the tablet im pretty sure, and kidnaps Dr. connors to unlock the secrets of the tablet, he creates a potion of eternal youth from it, and it instantly makes silvermane young, Spiderman shows up and fights silvermane, but silvermane keeps on getting younger until he disappears under a pile of his clothes

[tawdry laurel]

🤣

[urban rivet]

I’m new to marvel, why does gambit talk in third person? I couldn’t figure out why. Is it a personality disorder? Or is it just the way he’s written

[worldly cedar]

He does?

[urban rivet]

Yea, an example is “I got you” instead he says “gambits got you” if that makes sense.

[worldly cedar]

It might just be because he is a theif or sum about how ia real name isn't gambit

[fathom vigil]

Yooo

[somber latch]

It's just a character quirk, he's cool like that

[unborn kettle]

Might be bc he got lobotomized

[indigo vale]

Hi

[rapid bay]

thats just how gambit talks

[tired fractal]

I see the description of the Tablet of Life and Time mentions a Tablet of Death and Entropy, possible season 9 being set in Hell and the antagonist being Mephisto? Doom has been out of the lore for the past few seasons but the last collectible was the Soul Contract of Cynthia Von Doom.
Would only make sense that the next seasons collectible be the Tablet of Death and Entropy to build up to it

[chilly nacelle]

That works but dang mephisto soon he’s got that once pipe machine from the beyond I thought he’d be a big threat for later

[native jolt]

oooh mephisto has been hinted a lot, and that leads to highest likely for the GOAT Ghost Rider

[stray flower]

Mephisto is a large threath but it's not like he would be the largest we're dealing with, Double Doom is a huge threat already due to how much influence one Doom can have, but even without the Dooms Knull is a Multiversal level threat already as a primordial force of destruction

[simple storm]

I mean we have kingpin as the season villain now so not like scale matters

[stray flower]

That too

[rose arch]

Def siblings lmaooo nah they lovers

[mossy heron]

Wasn't that the same tablet that in marvel zombies return, zombie Spidey was after to cure himself of his zombie infection only got it to not work out well

[simple storm]

Who else do you think would be a season villain (usually not playable besides Ultron)?
I’m thinking: Mojo, High evolutionary, Annihilus, arcade, nightmare, leader, any hydra leader

[modern carbon]

This is the kind of stuff that puts my comprehension skills to the test

[modern carbon]

Bullseye or maybe taskmaster

[simple storm]

How would bullseye be a season villain

Hes like a grunt character, similar to taskmaster

[ivory gyro]

yo

[modern carbon]

Oh nvm I read what you meant wrong

Since next season probably will dive back into the x-men probably sinister or somebody i cant think of the top of my head

[silent rune]

Any Hydra leader? Give me red skull with the cosmic cube

[simple storm]

Zola was in the rivals infinity comics but we’ve yet to get a hydra season, I hope not this year (with hive) since we’re getting a bit too many back to back mid obscure characters.
I’m still waiting for characters like dr voodoo and nova

[rapid bay]

Mojo would be perfect for rivals

[paper stag]

boo

[rocky ingot]

I would love to see an animated adaptation of the marvel rivals comic series.

[simple storm]

It’d be nice if they did something similar to ow with the gallery cards with the voice actors reading their lines in the gallery card texts

[chilly nacelle]

At that point just give me a show this game has the lore and story season 0 and before could litterally be like the first few episodes of earths mightiest heroes

[native jolt]

Ye lots of people love the animation style, and the Marvel rivals lore is aldready peak

[delicate pumice]

Yeah

[icy valve]

[austere aurora]

It’s kinda random but I feel as the last gallery card for the season is Emma mind messing with Jean for cyclops ifykyk

[worn lichen]

i get your reasoning but the gallery card said the person in the distance has the same mind patterns as Rogue, which means they're either a clone of Rogue (which means Mr. Sinister which would make sense as it seems like itll be a mutant/x-men season) or a variant of Rogue from a different timeline

[neon sluice]

Hello

[austere aurora]

An Evil Xmen season would go so hard maybe like a hardened cyclops from the time entanglement with a (rogue)😏 team but personally I wouldn’t know how they would introduce moon girl tho

[worn lichen]

im honestly not convinced that we'll see moon girl with devil because there's been no mention or hint about her

the savage land is the only connection I can think of between devil dino and mutants/x-men

[boreal juniper]

Heyloo

[grand pulsar]

Haihai

[mossy heron]

Nah, cus then certain morons will want him playable

[simple storm]

Tbf they only stated doing proper hints around before season 4, like there was no reference of ultron or blade coming in there respective seasons (blade was seen in season 1 but no one knew that he’d be part of the Knull season)

[worn lichen]

we knew blade was coming, doesn't really matter that we didn't know when exactly

[worn lichen]

i dont remember

[lusty horizon]

Hii

[polar temple]

Question yall, I don’t get Season 6 how did Jeff is in the lore and saves Deadpool, I know he was captured the first time when with Psy and Mantis but what brought him to Deadpool the 2nd time?

[warm urchin]

[simple storm]

Wdym

[polar temple]

Was Jeff captured by Deadpool the same that psy and mantis were first captured in preseason 0? If so I know they all escaped before season 0. So how is Jeff saving Deadpool is season 6 lore? Like did he go alone and save them I’m kinda confused about that

[stray flower]

I think it's stated that Jeff was working alongside Deadpool and helped capture Mantis and Psylocke (though perhaps not them specifically but other members of the collection) and lost his memory of that due to a deal to heal an injury, as for season 6, how he is there we have no idea but he is kinda weird and canonically has the Infinity stones inside his belly so he could have teleported in somehow

[lime berry]

[worn lichen]

Deadpool captures Mantis and Sai drops them off with the Collector, captures/saves a whole bunch of other (Throg, Cosmo, Devil, etc) and then finally he kidnaps Jeff from Gwenpool and took him with him on his adventurers to collect various powerful items for the Collector. Jeff gets injured fighting the Brood and Deadpool saves him, the Collector heals Jeff at the cost of his memories due to healing the mental trauma

Mantis, Sai, and Jeff escape some time after, while Deadpool continues to work for the Collector until encountering Rogue and Gambit

In season 6, Jeff is with Emma and the New Marauders (iron man, psylocke, punisher, venom), and he uses the pym particles he ingested when he first escaped the collector to shrink down everybody that Deadpool, Gambit, and Rogue helped rescue from the Collector

[fallen meadow]

living tribunal will solo thanos

[toxic tinsel]

thats lowkey been known

[tribal flame]

Spider-Man forgot the tablet works too well lol

[worn lichen]

read the 3rd gallery card from the event, turns out the tablet given to the gilded saint is a forgery, which means either

• the tablet in the sanctum was fake
• black cat gave fisk a fake
  or
• fisk kept the real tablet and gave a fake to the saint

regardless, im guessing the gilded saint is the power that parker robbins found in the vault, as in that he's given parker the hood and empowered him to go get revenge

[simple storm]

Imma restart this argument because I’ve seen it float around again: characters like goblin queen and Betsy Captain Britain should be skins for Jean psy respectively

[worn lichen]

people who care more about those characters are going to tend to want them to be their own characters, people who don't care as much would rather them be skins

[simple storm]

I’m generally biased against x-men anyways because there’s too many so it’s already annoying enough to hear people want a clone of Jean and a second psylocke

Most rivals players don’t care about the lore but suddenly do when it’s to do with their favourite character

[worn lichen]

my hot take is that this applies to miles morales too

[simple storm]

My hot take is that I agree with you

My main gripe with Miles is that his abilities are just Peter+extra abilities. I’d be slightly less annoyed if they got rid of the invisibility because electricity is at least established by characters like Jessica Drew

[rapid bay]

brian braddock should be a tank/support duo role like dp

[somber latch]

A lot of these clone characters wouldn't even be in consideration if they weren't clones of actual popular or unique characters

[worn lichen]

true

[sudden wharf]

Fr

[fossil geyser]

i dont get the lore for this season

[golden shadow]

too

[crystal apex]

They can all be a big family now

[late fog]

Hi

Hi

Hello

Yeh I. The best

I’m the good guy

I am the good guy

I am not the bad guy

[stiff portal]

The lore be tuff but I wish I got more Dd lore

[split pendant]

Fact✅
Captain America isn't a supersoldier and doesn't have a vibranium shield. The avengers put him in a muscle suit, gave him a big plastic frisbee, and acted like they took damage from his hits, because they feel bad for Captain America being delusional.

More fun facts✅ The walls throw the plastic frisbee back to Captain America because they feel bad.
Ultron actually is just a puppet and everyone acts like he's a big villain because they feel bad for Tony Stark/Hank Pym.

[runic vapor]

This is the kind of slander that AniDiscourse makes about Jujutsu Kaisen’s main characters and it feels like it belongs in the Rivals Memes channel.

[hardy scarab]

sorry

[floral swan]

[wet dust]

sup

[simple storm]

Parts of 2099 chronoverse are showing up/spreading in “present” New York chronoverse, kingpin blames/scapegoats the hero’s hopping across timelines and arrests some of them, he tasks black cat to steal the lifeline tablet possibly to make a deal with the gilded king (skeleton in gallery cards, god of thieves) to stop the spread, white fox is trying to save the nepo bab- i mean her friend Luna Snow

[stone moss]

nepo baby is wild

[split pendant]

It's a part of the lore, though?

[long gust]

the lore is that doom is causing doom

[late viper]

in lore of marvel rivals, did Loki become God of stories or no? lowk wondering

[rapid bay]

There’s hints that he may be trying to

[wide burrow]

Cual será el próximo personaje en la temporada 8 🤔

[cinder rampart]

Whats the current lore of this season

[burnt valley]

Good

[lusty nest]

@hybrid loom

[fossil geyser]

Ty

[crystal epoch]

When are we getting black cat?!!,

[fossil geyser]

Next month

[onyx radish]

If they’re going to add devil Dino then that means they’re adding Moon girl but my question is, will she remain a minor in the game? If they make her an adult ima be so disgusted, I don’t need this game appealing to a weird minority of people.

[crystal epoch]

Ughhhhhh

[crystal epoch]

Nooo I think they should add moon girl and the ultimate should be moon girl riding devil Dino

[visual hollow]

observing the observer

[simple storm]

It’s more of a legality thing

[little lichen]

Is iron fist with white fox or luna?

[worn lichen]

in rivals lore, neither, but in the comics, iron fist and white fox are sorta implied to be dating in a very recent comic

[simple storm]

Dead in a ditch, Luna personally shot him out back

[onyx radish]

Are they not allowed to add minors in the game? If they can’t keep look girl the same age then they might as well not add her into the game.

[worn lichen]

it's more about having them fight and "die"

[simple storm]

Something about not shooting at children

[onyx radish]

Ohhh, well then maybe we’ll only get moon girl in the devil dinosaur ult???

[simple storm]

Aging her up like Peni I feel works, id like to have her riding dd into battle

[ember meadow]

meow

[fallow orchid]

I need the most random username possible any ideas?

[simple storm]

Migul with an X

[visual hollow]

Eating eggs on Thursday for choir practice was recommended.

[tropic temple]

oh

[rough sequoia]

Hello world

[nova dust]

Can someone uhh tell me me the lore of season 4 because like I missed it

[worn lichen]

Hela after her and Knull were defeated in season 3 takes refugee in the Eighth City which is being protected by Daredevil, but she is hunted down by Angela because she kidnapped Laussa, the baby sister of Thor and Angela

Present day Doom wants to claim the power of Shou-Lao and instigates a tournament because Iron Fist (Lin Lie) did not "earn" the Iron Fist by defeating Shou-Lao the same way that past Iron Fists did, and this tournament is still being prepared for

Chiyou, the god of war, is sealed in the Eighth City and is promising Daredevil that he'll put an end to the wars in the collapsed timeline, but he needs the Sword of Fu Xi to escape, and the fragments of the sword are embedded in the arms of Lin Lie (he used to wield the sword and went by the name Swordmaster before becoming Iron Fist), so there's a potential conflict between Daredevil and Iron Fist coming

[simple storm]

Nothing happened tbh, there was supposed to be a tournament to recieve the power of iron fist but it got cancelled/delayed

[limpid crown]

HERESY RAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[junior violet]

What?

[tall shore]

Didn’t they say that it’s still happening just it got delayed

[worn lichen]

its not even delayed, the preparations are just still in progress

[vale musk]

Cool thing is parts of this are heavily inspired by MacKay's fantastic Black Cat run from a couple of years ago, with Felicia being tasked with stealing an artifact from Strange's house in order for it to be offered to the Gilded Saint

[marsh sand]

marvel nerds who is this brett hendrick, i thought we steve rogers!

[vale musk]

White Fox has given heroes false identities so they can hang out at ESU undercover because Kingpin is arresting all the heroes

[marsh sand]

ohh ok

[vale musk]

But it may also be a reference that I don't recognise 😅

[marsh sand]

but wont the odin kids stick out, like whos not gonna see thor and go 'hmmmm'

[worn lichen]

at least some of the cover names are references, like Helen Angerboda for Hela, the Helen part is obvious but Angerboda is the name of her adoptive mother

[nova dust]

Thx

[worn lichen]

idk if the Cap name is a reference to anything in the comics but Brett is probably a reference to Brett Favre who is a famous football player

[worn lichen]

actually it’s an alias he used during Civil War apparently

[pulsar lance]

Deadpool tank ult still doesn’t make sense to me

[warped kestrel]

What do yall think is going to happen next?

[worn lichen]

season 8, Mr. Sinister is the villain and is making clones (including one of Rogue), Cyclops is imprisoned in Alchemax and gets rescued

[tranquil vigil]

Hello

[gusty sail]

Could the person the looks like rogue be mystique

[worn lichen]

no, because the gallery card says the person has the same brain patterns as rogue, so it's not just that they look like Rogue, but that they are Rogue, but clearly not the same Rogue we know

[gusty sail]

Ok👍

[onyx radish]

Can someone explain to my why Thor and Loki are hiding as students at ESU?? Aren’t they like really powerful I don’t see why they would need to hide themselves, I mean Loki might just to start messing with people because it’s Loki and that’s what he does but why is Thor hiding?

[worn lichen]

story wise I don't think they're actually involved, probably same with Rocket and maybe even Luna (because she's suppose to be arrested) - see the Homecoming gallery card for example, it shows reed, sue, strange, peter, and white fox being undercover and there's no mention in the story of any others

it's more that they just wanted to make skins for thor, loki, hela, etc in this theme - it especially wouldnt make any sense for Hela to be here undercover lol

[shut pecan]

hi

[simple storm]

I hope Netease never listens to the type of people who suggest to stop caring about the lore

[prime marsh]

I think the story has become a lot less interesting because the villains have less of a presence now

[chilly nacelle]

I think this has become more of a build up and world building right now stretching to different places instead of fighting a big bad like season 1, 2, and 3

Season 4 was doom trying to steal xhulou’s heart but instead has to win through the tournament
Season 5 learning gambit and rogue were on their honeymoon in the grand garden and trying to steal from the collector
Season 6 trying to escape from the collectors museum along with some locked up creatures

And now season 7 focused on New York manhattan. The lore is something I really like and like how much of an impact it has to how the hero releases since we at least get teases for something to come since it’s a good story and I feel rewarded for liking it

[worn lichen]

i definitely preferred when the season stories were more self-contained

season 4 ended unfinished, season 5 blurred into season 6

[fathom silo]

Omg crazy

[somber latch]

I like how the story continued from 5 to 6, it's more interesting than them being self contained
But I do wish the villains were more involved like the first few

[simple storm]

I mean if it’s to be believed that they’re gonna do similar events like the upcoming Loki vs avengers events for the movie tie ins for each movie then it’s feasible to believe Thanos and Doom could come

My prediction is Thanos comes by season 9.0 and Doom 11.0

[somber latch]

Yeah I absolutely expect those two

It would be interesting to see how they write the story around them. Ultron had a canon explanation for why he's on the roster, that he got reprogrammed to help. No idea how they'd do that for Thanos

Thanos has been known to join heroes for the greater good before, maybe it'll be he fights against Doom? But then the question is how they justify Doom

[stark echo]

Hardddd agree

Lore is so good in this game

[somber latch]

What if the Rival storyline for the Avengers tie in is...Infinity Doom

[chilly nacelle]

Well with incursions being teased we might get god emperor doom again

[prime marsh]

What i meant is that Dracula felt like he had an impact. Same with Ultron. I don’t feel like the kingpin plot has a lot of weight to it

[somber latch]

Makes sense, though I'm hoping for something with an original twist

[worn lichen]

yeah the consequences of that though is that its been neglecting the whole chronoverse thing if we're just sticking around in one timeline

[blazing sleet]

Hey guys… I’m new here. Welcome me 😁

[chilly nacelle]

But doom I think can easily be implemented to the roster at any time once they know what dooms reason is for doing all this they can work around it he’s proven to be reasonable a bunch of times

[simple storm]

The thing if your gonna suggest these villains be in the game you have to trade them for someone else given they prioritise which character to make kits for, so if you wanted Dracula and Knull, who shouldn’t they have added that would take their slot

[worn lichen]

for Doom, they could simply have a 3rd Doom be the playable one, separate from the other two

[prime marsh]

I’m not talking about them being playable.

[simple storm]

I misread what you said mb

[chilly nacelle]

If we do ever get a doom I’d say it would be 2099 since he lost some memories and would join us to get them back

[simple storm]

I feel it’s kinda obvious we’d get greeen doom as playable and 2099 be his debut shop skin

[prime marsh]

The second Dr. Doom is added to the game it’s on sight for Reeds

[worn lichen]

yeah i dont really see them making the default Doom the 2099 version

[chilly nacelle]

But dang so many things are being plotted in the back ground why cant this be a show we got
Loki with the grand garden and his deal with doom for the Pheonix feather to be god of stories
Doctor doom who’s gotten blood chronovium and the tournament
Mephisto with the beyonders pipe engine thing
Apocalypse going against the gods
I feel like I forgot someone

[simple storm]

I’ve been thinking it’d be easy to make apocalypse both a season villain + Playable, given Magik seems to want to side with him we could have teams like Apocalypse + horsemen (Magik maybe as war) vs X-men

Apocalypse has lore reasons he’d side with heroes anyways given rivals pulls from krakoan era

[chilly nacelle]

If they do I hope he’s a vanguard who can buff himself or others with his ult being the death seed and not strategist since I can see how that seems like a strategist

[simple storm]

I feel anyone who has the obvious sillouette of a tank should be a tank

[covert basalt]

In my opinion, this season's lore is pretty mediocre.

[robust badge]

[simple storm]

My ranking for every season lore from best to worst might be: 2,3,1,5,6,4,7

5+6 were basically 1 season and 4 is basically incomplete. I wasn’t looking forward to white fox and black cat so that probably affects my judgment but I do think it’s interesting they’re pulling inspiration from Black cat’s comic run (specifically black cat vol 2) I haven’t read it tho

[fervent ocean]

True this is how I rank them

[rapid bay]

where zero

[covert basalt]

My Ranking:
6°:Kun lun
5°:klyntar
4°:eternal night
3°:hellfire gala
2°:Museum
1°: Gambit and rogue

Love is a Battlefield and A night at the Museum It's a two-part season in terms of lore.

[simple storm]

0 is mostly set up, too many different stuff that’ll probably get their own seasons like how klyntar got more maps

[covert basalt]

I hope this happens in future seasons.

[sharp yoke]

in adam's tribunal skin mvp, he holds a multiverse shard with someone's face on it. who is that, does anyone know?

[worn lichen]

isnt it his own face

[sharp yoke]

it doesnt look like it. i have the screenshot but dont have image perms yet (not level 30)

[somber latch]

It is

[rapid bay]

no one can send images here

[simple storm]

You mean more 2 parters?

[covert basalt]

More 2-part seasons in the lore.

[stray flower]

I honestly just want more return to previous scenes, the map gimmicks are very fun and I want more exploration of existing gimmicks rather than strain themselves with coming up with new gimmicks every season

Bring back Wakanda's God's Wraths, Hydra Ever Shifting/Progress Based Terrain changes and have more maps in K'un Lun with Fog and the Collection for the Shield Walls

They are such a fun way to implement the lore of the map (like Empire's Blood Chronovium having Time properties leading to recall Terrain) and a nice gameplay gimmick that allows for funny moments both in game and in lore (you can't tell me Klyntar's Symbiote Platforms did not mess with a character's movement mid combat at least once)

[somber latch]

It's funny that the only one they revisited was the ugly Klyntar one

[fiery moss]

@whole elm

[chilly nacelle]

Hydra pretty sure we’ll come back to so we might get another map like that and also kunlun. Wakanda tho that will have to be up to the writers to come up for a reason to go back

[rapid bay]

every map's destruction effect is more fun than anything on klyntar frfr

[rapid bay]

yeah the Intergalactic Empire's storyline is pretty wrapped up after season 3

[stray flower]

Intergalactic was very tied to the Knull story line, that is true

I think Wakanda might be one of the Incursion Locations actually, Manhattan is getting invited by 2099, but what about the Mosaic/Cosmic and Unstable/Destroyed Chronoverses, with Shuri actively trying to figure out a way to fix the Multiverse they might be prone to an Incursion and get their own Invasion season

[chilly shell]

ok

[patent relic]

This will be our new home

[severe saffron]

hey guys

[hybrid mulch]

What’s the slowmode like

[boreal rain]

is there a slow mode here

[fading egret]

Hi were here to take over

[hybrid mulch]

1 minute slow mode FAAH

[golden notch]

I honestly think that they should remove black widow for the entire avengers end game season, rework her, and add her back. Cuz rn she sucks. So. I think that’s a great idea.

[feral stone]

Is this a larp chat?

[lavish sun]

yes

[royal iron]

IT’S A POOL PARTY

[white barn]

IS THAT. A FELLOW MOON KNIGHT FAN!?!?

[feral stone]

That's a new term, but I'd rather call my self Lunar Crusader

[white barn]

Wuh?

[manic barn]

Yo

[white barn]

Awwww nightcrawler

[manic barn]

He’s my wife, moon knight is amazing too

[white barn]

That’s MY wife back off

[astral willow]

Wakanda

[brazen panther]

Forever.

[manic barn]

Ay I didn’t say he’s my wife, just that he’s cool. U have a beautiful wife

[raven slate]

Where was peni during season 3,4,,5,6,7 lore

And season 2 lore

[simple storm]

Icl there’s too many characters they haven’t done anything with like hulk and Peni. Ultron also hasn’t done anything since season 2. Peni was at the hellfire gala in the rivals infinity comics but nothing more

Peni should’ve gotten an ESU skin

[raven slate]

Ikr she is literally in high school in the game timeline

So ultron rn is currently at the hellfire gala

So its not confirmed if peni is in the run from the kingpin or she is still in the galaxy

[coarse grotto]

Lowkey, Ultron can work in a 2 support comp

[raven slate]

Yes

In season 4 the tournament is still havent completed the story, yet since we just focus a different plot with rogue and gambit

[simple storm]

Ultron/X-tron got defeated and a reprogrammed version has just been hanging around

[raven slate]

So basically good ultron is hanging around at the gala right?

[worn lichen]

i don’t see why he would still have to be at krakoa but possibly

[simple storm]

The gala is finished, he just hasn’t done anything since

[worn lichen]

actually wait I think Ultron was part of the season 3 story, helping fight against the symbiotes on Klyntar wasn’t he

[simple storm]

Idk what next season villain is but if we’re going back to 2099 (Alchemax) Ultron and Peni better have at least a smidge of lore relevance

[raven slate]

So peni was last seen in season 2 right?

[simple storm]

Yes and no? Only in the Rivals infinity comics but no speaking/active role, most characters were probably there.

[worn lichen]

I think Peni was last seen in season 0 or season 1 recruiting spider-man to help with the web of life and destiny

[raven slate]

Season 1 peni helped herbie to go to friday

[simple storm]

Hulk better get his 2099 skin

[raven slate]

So in season 7 who is currently in jail and who is currently on the run from kingpin

[simple storm]

I mean everyone does if you’re on attack, Peni herself wasn’t really part of the main plot

[worn lichen]

Hulk has been last never basically since he’s only been involved in the hero stories at launch and he’s yet to have been part of any season’s story

[rapid bay]

He is tangentially related to Elsa’s lore

[worn lichen]

the end screen of the new map shows cap, punisher, adam, luna, and I think one more I’m forgetting being freed from the Kingpin’s vault

[raven slate]

I think that was thor and speaking of which what is the guardians of galaxy doing i know they were last active at season 2 but after season 3 where are they now

[worn lichen]

yeah he was part of Thor’s hero story as Thor ends up in the collapsing timeline after escaping the tower loki imprisoned him in

[raven slate]

The hood was released from the fat man’s vault in which he is gonna be a upcoming character

[simple storm]

I hope hood gets relegated to npc because I don’t care about him

[worn lichen]

yeah parker robbins was there too and it sounds like it's where he's first becoming the hood in rivals - would guess that the gilded saint is giving him the hood

or he just... dies in the vault and Mephisto shows up to make him the hood

[simple storm]

Duh Nuh Nuh Nuh Nuh Nuh Nuh Nuh FatMan

[raven slate]

What?

[simple storm]

Like the Batman tune

[raven slate]

Ooh hhahahaha

[limpid oak]

Peak

[paper raft]

Yo how can I do the “Complete 1 prediction(s) before the Preseason Group stage” quest?

[golden notch]

I honestly think that they should remove black widow for the entire avengers end game season, rework her, and add her back. Cuz rn she sucks. So. I think that’s a great idea. Also NERF PHEONIX.

[vague cypress]

[valid crow]

[royal iron]

I feel like the lore team forgot about him lol

[worn lichen]

eh he was the focus and villain of a whole season

[empty idol]

So the new animations from Disco part 2 has revealed that Fisk arresting some of the superheroes happened right as Luna was celebrating her disco birthday anniversary

That has to stings to the core to get arrested during your own birthday party

[royal iron]

“For your birthday, Ms. Hee, I give you a fair trial.”

[worn lichen]

lmao yeah I just noticed in the the mvp animation for Magik, Luna is on her knees in handcuffs at the beginning

[vague vector]

Yeah, I think Iron Man rewired Ultron to prevent them from targeting humanoids or something. I remember reading a lore story about that I think.

[worn lichen]

that sounds right

[simple storm]

He blackmailed Ultron if he ever betrayed them he’d erase his memories of Hank Pym

[supple flume]

Yo when is Ghost Rider coming??
I just hope he is either tank or dps.

[worn lichen]

there's been no hints to ghost rider so far

[simple storm]

We don’t have any hints to when he’ll come. Just a few references to Mephisto and that one mural on the kun lun map

[worn lichen]

oh true the 1 million BC ghost rider

[thorny dagger]

Marvel more X-Men '97 skins PLEASEEEE i love the magneto one, gambit crop top , and uhhhh

[idle island]

Something I noticed with the new disco skins mvps is them fighting armed guards so I wonder if right after or during Luna’s 8th Anniversary if Fisk/Kingpin started arresting the heroes.

[worn lichen]

^

[idle island]

Also cosmic ghost rider (frank castle) was mentioned in Punishers Pirate skin

[simple storm]

Pretty much, before the season trailer they released a newspaper looking advert saying kingpin is gonna start arresting people and at the same time Luna’s show was ongoing

[idle island]

Oh yeah I forgot about that newspaper

[polar temple]

So helpful thank you, but follow up pls. I thought Jeff wasn’t with Emma and the marauders to begin with but they found him through venom. It seemed that from the map Jeff was escaping with Deadpool so how did Jeff find Deadpool this time if he doesn’t remember him?

Also they didn’t explain how does Jeff later remember Deadpool cause in season 6.5 Jeff and Deadpool interact again but they didn’t interact in season 6.0

[worn lichen]

yeah i reread the gallery cards and i think it doesnt actually say how jeff ended up with rogue/gambit/deadpool at the collector's place again

so idk how jeff is there in the first place

[lucid fulcrum]

Anyone want to rank plat and gold

[frank arch]

who tryina explain the lore to me in under 2 minutes?

[ancient mica]

If someone does explain lore to u can u summarize it for me

[frank arch]

gotchu

[pulsar sonnet]

IS IT IN THE LORE THAT HULK GETS NO SKIN EVERY SEASON

[halcyon robin]

Yeah no Hulk has more unique designs already existing than like 90% of the roster they can pull from for skins, I think the main issue is when designing a skin for Hulk, they ALSO have to design a Banner and Ult form, and make animations for them transforming in and out of each other. Tbh, if Hulk was a more popular choice, I think they'd put in the effort. At the same time, characters like Rogue, Angela Emma have really taken the spotlight from base roster tanks, so as much as Id love more Hulk skins, I just dont think theyre gonna put in 3x the effort to give Hulk more skins when hes not that popular to play as

[simple storm]

S1: Dracula used the darkhold to make it permanently night in New York and was able to turn everyone into vampire, moon knight’s team wanted to kill every vampire (including turned innocents) with the montesi formula, F4 (and squirrel girl) wanted to save everyone by breaking the curse with the help of Ratotoskr (I think F4 side won)

S2: Ultron attacks during hellfire gala on krakoa, infects the likes of iron fist, Hawkeye and magneto. Manages to hijack krakoan resurrection protocols and be revived as X-tron. Infects/controls all of Arakko. Iron man reprograms a fallen Ultron and blackmails him that he’ll delete his memories of Hank Pym if he doesn’t help. I think Doom 2099 beats Ultron anyways

S3: Knull is back with Hela at his side as his Queen in Black. Jean and Blade join the fight, something about a Phoenix egg that gave certain characters Phoenix powers. Some people got symbiotes. Some people got both. Knull is ultimately defeated by a plan of: 1. Venom attaches a band to Knull during their clash, 2. Jean lets Knull end her/send her to white room (with a band on her), 3. Rocket with the power of scarlet witch swaps Jean and Knull ending Knull in white room

S4: Doom manhandled Lin Lie/Iron Fist and called him a fraud, so a tournament was started to compete who’d be worthy to receive the powers of the iron fist. Or at least there was SUPPOSED to be one, but it got delayed

S5: Grandmaster hired gambit to steal the deed to dooms mother soul given to the Collector by Mephisto offering him a chronovium d20 and also reversed Gambit’s lobotomy so he can heal people now. Gambit did steal something but it was a fake but then rogue got chronovium powers that bypassed the collectors protection of the deed (was in a chronovium vault)

S6: Collector hires Deadpool and Elsa to recapture the deed from gambit and rogue. Deadpool betrayed him immediately. They escaped and Gambit and rogue got to have their wedding

S7: ongoing but from what I could gather: present timeline New York is facing a weird incursion where parts of 2099 Nueva York are appearing in it. Kingpin arrests/scapegoats the timeline hopping heroes and tasks black cat to steal the lifeline tablet from the sanctum. Kingpins plan seems to be to give it to the gilded saint (skeleton god) to reverse the spread.
Also cyclops is teased

I might’ve gotten some stuff wrong as this was all from the top of my head what I could remember

[polar temple]

Does anyone else know?

[worn lichen]

as for why Jeff remembers Deadpool

Anyway, Jeff may not fully remember our time together, but I’ve binged enough Shark Weeks to know that guys like him are all about instinct. And I can see it in those big, black eyes of his that, deep down, he knows he can trust me. That’s a good start. And I’m gonna do everything in my power to prove his instincts right.

[frank arch]

thank you goat

[worn lichen]

ive looked through all the relevant gallery cards and stories, and i just dont see anything about how Jeff got there

[polar temple]

Yeah that’s why I struggled to understand that lol

It’s just like opp he’s here that’s it

[frank arch]

sent!

[stray flower]

I'm Kate to the conversation on where Peni is but for Season 3 every single character is participating in the fight as Knull is a literal primordial being, wether they get blessed by one of the 2 empowering forces in conflict or are otherwise involved in the plan to win is dependant on the character, Season 4 only really mentions the chosen champions but it's implied many others are there to help their allies in the tournament/defend it from Doom, Season 5 and 6 yeah anyone not mentioned isn't really doing anything, and now Season 7 Peni is likely dealing with the fallout of the invasion back in 2099, wether that means sabotaging forces or getting a breather of less surveillance allowing to gather allies is a separate question

[twin patio]

For season 8, got some theories. As much as I’ve seen hints at Cyclops and Devil Dinosaur, I think we’ll be getting Madelyne Pryor and Ghost Rider next season. The main item in current lore is the Tablet of Life and Time, which can bring someone’s soul back from hell. Who do we know who wants to bring someone back? Doom. Doom wants to bring back his mother. Who’s the king of hell? Ghost Rider. Madelyne was hinted at by a woman on top of a roof which Jean got a psychic signal from. Could her clone, Madelyne Pryor.

[worn lichen]

fun theory but completely wrong considering the person on the roof had the same brain patterns as Rogue, not Jean

[vast meteor]

Hello everyone, is anyone chatting? You can add me.

[white barn]

I have three

[simple storm]

There’s been a correction, similar to rogue not Jean

[twin patio]

which is why she’d be a vanguard 🙂

[simple storm]

What

[somber latch]

Who is Brett Hendrick. All the other ESU names are based on their actual names, but this is completely different. Couldn't find anything on Google

It's listed as an alias on his actual marvel website profile so it is from the comics

[worn lichen]

alias during civil war

[twin patio]

Similar body type to rogue, vanguard.

[simple storm]

That’s not what it said tho

[somber latch]

Yes

[simple storm]

Some of you huff too much copium to the point of delusion

[somber latch]

It's similar to Rogue we've been over this

[simple storm]

Expecting most rivals players to read is too much

[rapid bay]

it was an alias Cap used during the civil war comic event

[twin patio]

just let me have hope for a tank madelyne, can’t even hope anymore 😞

[simple storm]

“A second Jean grey has hit the game”

[rapid bay]

season 7 gallery card #1
The Worst of Times

• incursion began with Alchemax Tower
• Ben Urich exists
• "space wrinkles" appear around affected areas, disappearing structures and replacing them with future (2101) counterparts
• lower manhattan put on lockdown and evacuated
• Mayor Fisk uses this incident to enact his hero ban, arresting multiple heroes and trapping them in a prison called the Vault

gallery card 2
Catch Me If They Can

• James Wesley, Wilson Fisk's right hand man, exists
• planning to bomb an "affected area", likely Lower Manhattan (this may be the destruction affect on the map)
• Fisk hires the Black Cat to steal an artifact from inside the Sanctum Sanctorum
• Artifact is The Tablet of Life and Time, supposed to provide ultimate power to its owner
• Fisk gives Felicia the Ring of Zona, a sling ring

[worn lichen]

fun fact, thats not the first mention of urich:

And during my research, I found a Daily Bugle article by Ben Urich that claimed the citizens of Krakoa were already applying a similar process to make themselves all-but immortal.
from sg's 2nd story

betty brant is also mentioned in the hellfire gala event gallery card

[rapid bay]

gallery card 3
Homecoming

• a log by White Fox, director of Tiger Division
• Tiger Division reached out to Fisk to help with the Incursion, but it was refused
• When Fisk imprisons Luna Snow, a member of Tiger Division, White Fox is forced to take action
• Tiger Division establishes a secret base on Empire State University campus where some heroes take up civilian identities to hide
• Doctor Strange, Spider Man, Mister Fantastic, and Invisible Woman (notably, not thor, loki, hela, or luna who all got skins for ESU)

gallery card 4
Fallen Saint

• The Gilded Saint, patron god of the Thieves Guild (of which Gambit is a member) speaks
• the Tablet is a Talokanil (Namor's people, Atlantean) artifact
• the Saint made a deal with Fisk for him to retrieve the Tablet for the Saint and he would reverse the damage caused by the Incursion
• Black Cat is a former member of the Thieves Guild
• The Gilded Saint's magic turned out to have no effect on Alchemax Tower, despite it normalizing the rest of the city
• the Tablet given to the Saint was a forgery, probably kept by Fisk for his own purposes

[somber latch]

Deja vu from the Cynthia soul contract being a fake

[twin patio]

The Tablet can bring someone’s soul back from hell, which I think Doom will do…

[raven slate]

Oh atleast she getting lore

[stoic mist]

@thin leaf

[rapid glen]

hi

[supple flume]

Ffs can they move back pov for monster Hulk?

[junior sparrow]

wah wah

[chrome flicker]

womp womp

[stray flower]

So I was reading the wiki as I do, looking at Cosmetic Themes because I like seeing how effective a Team of people sharing a cosmetic can be as one does, and I noticed Wade's ESU Skin ... all characters use fake names for the ESU skins to go undercover and not call attention ... Deadpool's Skin Name? Wade Wilson

[bright blade]

The street level season stories but still with the main theme of the game is so damn good

[dull meteor]

So, has anyone else seen Dylan Brock playing Rivals in the newest Amazing Spiderman? Rivals exsists within earth 616

[ember meadow]

the

[chilly nacelle]

Ok lore wise, cosmological wise, or anything wise how does marvel rivals being in earth 616 affect it

[simple storm]

Doom sues Netease for defamation

[worn lichen]

marvel rivals being a video game in universe doesnt affect anything cosmologically

[warped frigate]

hello

[uncut coral]

Cosmology wise, is it still possible for Rivals to still actually exist in the larger marvel multiverse as comics 616?
Wasn’t sure if timelines constantly collapsing due to the time stream entanglement in Rival’s lore makes that difficult.
Though then again Rivals Deadpool does seem aware of his original 616 variant.

[somber latch]

It was never possible

[worn lichen]

it is very much possible, just means that the timestream entanglement isnt something affecting the entire multiverse

there's nothing stopping it from being its own separate thing localized to one part of a infinite multiverse

[rapid bay]

I don’t think that the version Dylan is playing is the same version we play
Tons of heroes’ secret identities are present in the game

[simple storm]

What unresolved plots do you want explored? For example the presumed apocalypse stuff with Magik or whether the tournament will ever happen

[stray flower]

I do actually want more exploration of the Unstable Chronoverse, K'un Lun is apparently stranded there now but besides having an extra City it doesn't actually seem to have any impact at all

[worn lichen]

yeah the collapsing chronoverse has been heavily neglected when it's the most interesting one

[mighty gorge]

💁

[compact thistle]

🤔

[cedar quiver]

Time for school is all I know

[pallid garnet]

just hi

[humble musk]

how you guys doin?

[calm flax]

lore wise who is actually with iron fist lol i see luna x iron fist and now white fox x iron fist - even white fox x luna snow

[candid venture]

depend on comics there are a lot of

[untold helm]

Saw Magik's new MVP. So S.H.I.E.L.D Agents were responsible for taking everyone down? Since when did S.H.I.E.L.D do Fisk's dirty work?!

[calm flax]

omg i feel like it’s like this for all the ships haha

[candid venture]

yes it is like strange said

[devout island]

Okay cool

[peak osprey]

I want to monkey bird un Marvel Rivals

[worn lichen]

in the comics, iron fist is sorta with white fox, they went on a date in a very recent comic

he's interacted a bunch with white fox previously in the comics, and the backstories of both characters seem to be heavily based on the comics versions

[agile obsidian]

never been here before hi

[junior sparrow]

Who is Brett Hendrick. All the other ESU names are based on their actual names, but this is completely different. Couldn't find anything on Google

It's listed as an alias on his actual marvel website profile so it is from the comics

[worn lichen]

yeah the google searches all go to the skin now but its his alias during civil war

[junior sparrow]

I honestly think that they should remove black widow for the entire avengers end game season, rework her, and add her back. Cuz rn she sucks. So. I think that’s a great idea. Also NERF PHEONIX.

[frigid breach]

Wait this game has lore

[untold helm]

Does nobody really wanna talk about S.H.I.E.L.D taking sides? I mean, where's Nick Fury, Maria Hill, and the entire command staff?

[worn lichen]

in the comics SHIELD has been gone for like 10 years now, and rivals takes a lot from the comics

[round raven]

What if the real Marvel Rivals Lore was the friends we made along the way

[rapid bay]

Most literate rivals player

[simple storm]

Do you think we’ll see some of the prisoners as Easter eggs in the upcoming map like orb and lizard

[somber latch]

Probably not. Wouldn't they be in a jail cell in a prison

[worn lichen]

i dont think the map has us enter the vault, it just ends at the entrance

[simple storm]

Doesn’t it end at the prison

[worn lichen]

thats what i said yea it ends outside the building

[round raven]

If Marvel Rivals Lore is your power, what are you without it?

[simple storm]

Could be third defence spawn tho

[frigid breach]

I just got the game bro😭

[rapid bay]

That would be sick

[dense bobcat]

how to level up to play ranked in marvel rivals?

[spare flax]

what do

[twilit urchin]

When does the bite of 87 happen?

[somber latch]

83

[copper wraith]

Jeff

[vocal stirrup]

I want to make some new friends.

[junior sparrow]

Someone's having trouble with the Krakoa map; there's audio lag and a delayed screen load in the second round.

[trim terrace]

shaneboy98, the darkness, the arrival of the wicked one, the one who thinks and sees of the pitch black folks… the one who came back from the abyss of nothingness..

[peak osprey]

Jajaja clasicc, One piece references

[plush cove]

Here a shower thought

Since Marvel Rivals is confirm to exist as an actual game in base 616 marvel Universe,and there official comics in the game itself that helps expands the lore.Does that meant those comics count as fan fiction made by the comic version of Netease

Also,the Marvel Rivals clip is in Amasing Spider man #25 2026

[daring raptor]

Can someone explain to me why Gambits tattoo in rivas says “Anne Marie” instead of “Anna Marie” ?

[rapid bay]

the game we have and the game in 616 are likely not extremely similar in the lore. multiple secret identities are mentioned in the game as well as stuff that doesnt really work as an in universe game

[peak osprey]

AND UCM too

[narrow maple]

probably just a typo

[stray flower]

I don't like the ESU skin selection, more specifically the ESU College Life selection, why in the world are Rocket and Hela of all characters going undercover?!

and Wade's not even Undercover! he's just there!

[uneven burrow]

btuh]

[worn lichen]

yeah they wanted to give skins to popular characters rather than to characters that actually make sense for the theme

[stray flower]

actually, you know what, Wade gets a pass "'How do you do, fellow kids?' See? All I have to do is buy one piece of ESU merch and boom, I'm part of the ESU College Life theme!"

[worn lichen]

i dont give it a pass because obviously the devs were like "quick, we need a skin to give away for free in the event" and they had the idea to just recolor the esports deadpool skin and toss it in there

[stray flower]

Fair, I'm also mildly annoyed at how Arbitrary the separation between College Life and Showdown seems, specially considering that the separation only exists in the Theme name itself, they share logo, but it seems there is in fact a reason and it's to do with the imprisoned heroes

[worn lichen]

i didnt even notice that in the first place

[stray flower]

I spend way too much of my time thinking on wether or not a team composed of one skin theme could be viable and if not how a full team Team Up could save them, I spend too much time in the wiki lol

[peak osprey]

O event of Spider-island

[peak osprey]

Or civil war

[round wren]

Dare Marvel rivals we are tired of your engagement based matchmaking Please fix that I'm tired of getting matched with people who don't know how to play

[final crag]

sa

[formal helm]

https://discord.com/channels/1193841000108531764/1487599716798824498

[prime marsh]

where is Doom in the plot??

My man hasn’t been relevant since season 5

THAT’S why the lore fell off

[chilly nacelle]

Dooms been doing so much in the back ground

[worn lichen]

he was at least slightly involved in season 5 and 6, doom 2099 learns of the soul contract in season 5 and obtains in it season 6, but those two seasons were basically just the same story so it feels like he hasnt done anything in awhile

i would assume that we'll see more from one of the Dooms in one of the 2 gallery cards that release in 7.5

[prime marsh]

He used to. And that was what made the plots so good

[chilly nacelle]

He still is we’ll see in 7.5 at the end tho

[prime marsh]

Hopefully ur right

[simple storm]

Season 11 Doom debut trust 🤞

[prime marsh]

If doom ain’t dooming marvel ain’t marveling

[simple storm]

In November-December around doomsday and 2nd anniversary of rivals

[worn lichen]

and even in season 4 present day Doom was making moves with the tournament and all, but that hasnt been resolved yet so that also contributes to feeling like they havent been doing anything, especially when compared to season 1 and 2 where they felt a lot more impactful

[chilly nacelle]

Season 4 was only when we last saw Doctor doom season 5 & 6 we got Doom 2099

[worn lichen]

correct

[prime marsh]

Then it was just this season where it feels off

I hope Ultron comes back as a villain for a season again

[worn lichen]

season 1, present day doom was making deals with Dracula, helping him set up the eternal night, and then betraying him to get the blood chronovium
season 2, doom 2099 is working with krakoa (even though its for his own gain to get the chronovium from the island), and helping defeat ultron
season 3, the focus is Knull, but both Dooms take advantage with 2099 taking a piece of the celestial codex and present day taking a phoenix feather
season 4, present day doom goes to K'un-Lun to get the chi infused chronovium from Shou-Lao, instigates a tournament to win it, has Loki be his champion and gives him a phoenix feather in exchange
season 5, doom 2099 learns of Cynthia von Doom and the soul contract... and thats it
season 6, doom 2099 obtains the soul contract... and that's it
season 7, nothing so far, but probably we'll see present day doom next

[prime marsh]

I think the character choices also were better earlier on. Blade abd Phoenix fighting Knull and Hela? That’s dope. Dropped out Fox lady fighting cat themed anti hero? Nah

[chilly nacelle]

If they don’t show present day doom they better be setting up more of the other background threats

[prime marsh]

I know the lore

[worn lichen]

not a response to you or anyone specifically, im just detailing it all out so its easy to see that it's been 3 seasons since the dooms really did anything

[prime marsh]

Aight then my bad

[chilly nacelle]

If they dont we've still got Loki and Mephisto plotting in the back. Hope they give us a big planned event cause honestly season 3 shouldve been one for it being Knull and a Comsically huge threat.

[prime marsh]

I guess I don’t know the lore, than. WHEN DID WE GET MEPHISTO

[stray flower]

The Soul Contract mentioned for the Elders Seasons is a Mephisto contract

[prime marsh]

Oh yeah nvm I remember

[chilly nacelle]

• Mephisto gave his contract of Dooms mother to The Collector in exchange for an old brale pipe which The Collector doesnt know is a concordance engine from The Beyonders/ Ivory Kings a name from Venoms 3 lore page

[prime marsh]

Did the tournament get resolved?

[stray flower]

I do wonder what Loki and Hela are doing ... they are both scheming an insane amount yet are kind of just ... there? Loki is Doom's Champion and was the instigator of Yggsgard but is otherwise just chilling and Hela had the entire thing with Knull ... and yet she is undercover at ESU?!

The Tournament got postponed

[chilly nacelle]

Loki is in the tournament because Doom will give him a Pehonix feather if he wins which loki needs and something else to become God of Stories and he also helped Mantis (if you like the shipping you should read) in The Grand Garden but secretly planted something and Hela well shes jsut been in protection of the eight city for retribution the ESU skin isnt canon to the story more like a what if the Asguardiaqn family went to ESU

[chilly nacelle]

also no just delayed till we come back to it

[worn lichen]

yeah one of the stories from the latest season says that preparations are still under way for the tournament

[stray flower]

thing about that latter part is that Low Key Thor and Loki are NOT part of ESU, they are literally "just chilling"

[plucky elk]

Wasssap

[lime totem]

damn this sure is lore chat

[hallow rivet]

Love how all the asguardians got a skin this szn

[upbeat badger]

deadpool and jeff emote when ?

[paper raft]

Guys, how many days left for the Jeff rodeo emote to come and when is it leaving the game?

[chrome smelt]

#game-chat

[peak osprey]

This is a history of The comics

[hushed steeple]

Has marvel rivals lore kinda stopped?

[rapid bay]

No? Hero release lore has slowed down but season by season lore is still the same as ever since they stopped releasing two maps

[simple storm]

I miss when the events used to give lore, last time they did was in season 4 where we got lore about the beasts and their champions, after that they kinda just stopped giving extra lore

[rapid bay]

Yeah it’s become less a priority but it’s still around
That’s one of the reasons I think they should go back to 3 month seasons

[worn lichen]

yeah hero stories have slowed, events no longer have associated lore, the story itself has slowed (season 4 unfinished, season 5 and 6 are just 2 parts of the same story), which is certainly a consequence of the breakneck pace theyre pushing out seasons

[outer phoenix]

67

[frigid ginkgo]

i have lore lowk

[fiery bough]

What's the lore about the college skins?

[rapid bay]

#lore-chat message

[stray flower]

I'm still intrigued by Rocket and Hela, since Thor and Loki are not ESU so they don't act against the other ESU canonicity and Luna and Iron Fist although possibly confusing do make sense, remember that the Showdown half of the skin sets includes Invisible Woman and Dr. Strange who are in the Gallery Card

[west token]

Thanks! had no idea what the pipes were about and didn't know how to research it.

Also didn't know we had a lore chat so that's pretty fun.

[sick atlas]

Can i be friends with Knull?

[simple storm]

What are the chances they’re gonna give cyclops chronovium powers

[chilly nacelle]

i doubt hes getting chronovium powers they only give it to those who dont have much that they can do with their powers Like Rogue who was just punching flying and absorbing. If they switch him up all theyll do is give him the gambit treatment adn either unlock a power or make him like his brother vulcan depending on his role.

[simple storm]

I ask because I genuinely can’t see him as anything but dps, like I get WHY people want him as a tank, mostly because it’s the most desirable role to be, but unless he makes shields with his beams or heals I don’t see how is kit is gonna be anything other than beam and bigger beam

Like I’ve seen people say he could have DVa matrix but that seems kinda lame imo

[glossy talon]

Hello 👋

[rapid bay]

Cyclops is a pretty big guy plus he’s the leader of the X-men so tank is a logical choice

[worn lichen]

he's not really "big"

[quaint parcel]

Lore accurate jeff solos

[rapid bay]

I hope they full commit and canonize the Punch Dimension to rivals

[worn lichen]

i could see cyclops having a beefier health pool for a dps but not being a full on tank

[simple storm]

People just want a tanky poke dps

[rapid bay]

I want a mobile frontline tank

Using his CONCUSSIVE beams for movement and knockback like Emma but mobile

[worn lichen]

i think this is the only way i could see him being a tank is if he could use his beams to destroy incoming projectiles

[elder trail]

jeff the legend cute

[lyric briar]

I think cyclops would be a weird tank and I would prefer him as a dps character

[simple storm]

I feel if the ratio of dps characters wasn’t so absurd people wouldn’t be saying tank as much as they do now. He could’ve been a dps in season 0 and nobody would’ve batted an eye

[somber latch]

He never made sense as a tank

[simple storm]

There’s an unspoken hierarchy when it comes to roles and how they’re viewed:
tanks>dps>support

[somber latch]

The only explanation I've seen for tank is that "he leads the team into battle". Which doesn't even make sense for role selection

[velvet flicker]

Did yall know that eddie brock and venom have a kid together

[rough pond]

ULTIMATE UNIVERSE IS NOT CANON

[winter mica]

Did you know guys Ironman thinks faster than a computer

[wicked badge]

That part, just cause he’s the leader doesn’t make him a vanguard lol

[worn lichen]

new map trailer shows we will go inside the Vault, and just because some people were doubting it like that one guy who thought Parker Robbins was gonna be Ghost Rider, they showed that the Hood is indeed in the vault

there’s 3 other objects in display cases along side the hood but can’t tell what they are

it looks like the Kingpin’s cane, some sort of skull thing with flashing lights, and a blue crystal

[rapid bay]

I have a feeling Hood and Ghost Rider are gonna drop together in a season or two

[rapid bay]

They made strange a tank when he’s not big in any medium I don’t see why they can’t do that to cyclops

[lusty hearth]

Well, you see, one of Dr. Strange’s signature moves is making a big shield. He does that a lot in movies and comics

He also tends to fight in melee with two small discus shields a lot

[tall raptor]

:0

[chilly nacelle]

Hope we get kingpin in the future since he’s got a model ready him I can see getting chronovium powers or using that staff

[agile flower]

What's that thing that Fisk is waking up in the trailer?

[rapid bay]

It’s the Gilded Saint, someone Fisk is making a deal with

[agile flower]

I also heard it was arishem the judge so is that confirmed?

[ebon thunder]

This would actually be so goated

[rapid bay]

…no

[agile flower]

Like im asking is it confirmed that its actually the gilded saint yet cause ive heard like 3 different things and that seems the most likely

I keep seeing people say its cyclops guaranteed next season but yeah i think hoods more likely. Idk why they would release cyclops this far before doomsday when they are planning all the stuff for it

[rapid bay]

#lore-chat message

[agile flower]

Secret wars i mean but yeah

[rapid bay]

Cyclops is most likely as his glasses are in the final lore card of the season
Remember, Blade was added like 2 seasons after he showed up in a map

[agile flower]

Unless its a hellfire gala season again idk I think hes more likely to get added closer to secret wars to hype that up since they said the game is going to tie in with it/be based off it

So like season 9 or something but who knows. It doesnt make sense for me to release him before though unless yeah its another hellfire thing

The one time we have seen him is in a hellfire gala suit i believe so that's why I say that

[simple storm]

Depends what next season is based on, not enough clues to tell who the next villain is.

My general idea is Cyclops is being held prisoner and experimented on in Alchemax and some Rogue clone that copied him is watching from afar

[agile flower]

Why do you think that hes being held in the alchemax with a rogue clone? I havent read all the comics so im not sure but that sounds interesting

[young cloud]

My theory is that Wolverine and Cyclops had enough of Jean and went to a cabin in the woods to do some sweet sweet baking without her

I'm also hoping that Kingpin will have voice lines on the new map like Knull and the Necrosword. Especially if a Daredevil gets near him or something. Or they just scream at eachother like Daredevil Season 3

[simple storm]

Last gallery card shows the Alchemax building releasing a red pulse which leads me to believe he’s there, also in the same gallery panel with a figure with “similar thought patterns” to rogue who is seen with a glowing red eye

[agile flower]

Hmm interesting

Cyclops seems pretty likely but looking at an upscaled close up of the figure on the roof it looks like captain marvel with the yellow accent/line on it but yeah it could also be a mr sinister clone of rogue possibly

[simple storm]

Yh some people though it was Captain marvel too, but there’s no other clues to suggest her coming yet

[agile flower]

I thought i remember hearing voice lines from her quite abit ago or something but who knows. Lore wise it would be weird for her to randomly show up

[stray flower]

My Father is a comics fanatic, when I pointed out the resemblance to the X-Revolution Skin he showed me that X-Revolution has a similar pattern to an iconic Captain Marvel Outfit, without the huge window of course, so the lower detail of the outfit does increase the chances of it being Captain Marvel

yeah no clue why she would be showing up now, unless next season is a Cosmic season there is no reason for Captain Marvel to get involved, then again, since we are in the Incursions Chaos Seasons maybe the Mosaic Chronoverse (Where Wakanda is located) may be involved in one of the incursions soon and since that is the Chronoverse where most Cosmic heroes reside/landed then we may have Captain Marvel soon

[agile flower]

yeahh theres an outfit where she looks very very similar

[prime tinsel]

Whats the lore of the game

[simple storm]

I’ll genuinely take captain marvel if it means we get confirmation for moon girl later

[agile flower]

That would be so sick

I think its possible they add vision in the new 4 or 5 seasons cause of the vision quest show coming out this summer

[chilly nacelle]

I want captain marvel just for a chance of another vanguard so I’ll take her the more the merrier. I feel like next season is gonna be cyclops because hellfire gala might be annual and season 8 is close or at the same time of season 2 so we might even get another voting event

If we do see or get captain marvel it’s either space related season or we might finally go to the collapsing timeline since that seems like another place she’d go to help out and fight

[somber latch]

Captain Marvel doesn't look like Rogue though

[glacial laurel]

gg

[simple storm]

There’s a whole thing where rogue copied Carol and her memories

[somber latch]

Yeah but they still look physically different

[agile flower]

The mystery person doesnt really look like either of their normal outfits

But they have a hair style similar to captain marvel and rogue so its hard to tell. Most people think captain marvel cause its similar to an outfit she wore though

[somber latch]

The description said the figure looks like Rogue and has the same brain patterns. Captain Marvel only has the same brain patterns, not the appearance

[agile flower]

If you want ill send you the pictures in dms

[somber latch]

I've seen it lol. I think it's either a clone or a timeline variant based on the full description

[agile flower]

Of the captain marvel outfit that looks almost exactly like the mystery figure?

It doesnt say they have rogues appearance in the description it just says a woman that looks like jean

[somber latch]

No that was a mistake from the initial report before it came out, it says she looks like Rogue

[agile flower]

it doesnt look like her anytime we have ever seen her though is the thing so we dont know.

[simple storm]

It didn’t say “looks like Jean” it said “similar thought patterns to rogue” miller made a mistake

[agile flower]

it does look like a captain marvel outfit though so people dont know. its contradicting itself

[devout nexus]

Anyone tryna play

[agile flower]

yeah he got it wrong even when he corrected himself. if you read the actual thing it says someone with the exact same thought patterns as the woman across the table

so yeah the whole thing is they have rogues thought patterns but it looks like a captain marvel or emma outfit and nobody knows

[simple storm]

I wouldn’t be surprised if season 9 was Thanos and Captain Marvel

[worn lichen]

just because Rogue copied Carol doesn’t mean that they would have the same brain patterns, she didn’t literally become Carol

the hair on the figure matches Rogue with the angled/sharp spikey white hair

[stray flower]

on the tought patterns, Rouge's entire brain is weird because of the whole absorbing memories, I assume purely because even my Father's first reaction (as I mentioned, a comic fanatic) to "similar tought patterns" was Captain Marvel, like her powers, Carol's toughts are strong enough to leave a residue, since those powers that remained on Rogue are the reason why she can fly in the first place

[worn lichen]

to put it simply, there is only one person who would have identical brain patterns to Rogue, and that's Rogue

theoretically still having a few of Carol's memories doesn't suddenly mean her entire brain now functions identical to Carol's brain

[somber latch]

And it just looks like Rogue. You can see the white shock of hair

[worn lichen]

her looking like Rogue, wearing Emma's outfit, and with glowing red eyes (Cyclops) is all pretty easy to reconcile if you consider that she is a clone of Rogue, which means that someone is making clones plural and this clone was either given various mutant abilities, or has absorbed multiple at once

clones would then most likely mean Mr. Sinister, the Jackal, or Alchemax (since it seems to be implied that Cyclops has been captured by them) is behind it

[somber latch]

Well yeah the same card says that Alchemax is doing something shady. So maybe Alchemax has captured its timeline's X-Men and turned them evil or something

[worn lichen]

yeah her being a Rogue from a different timeline is the other possibility

[somber latch]

Wait is S7 about Alchemax from the future or from another timeline

[worn lichen]

the 2099 Alchemax building either swapped places with or completely replaced the present day Alchemax building and started "infecting" the surrounding city and 2099'ing it - this infection is pushed back and contained, but the 2099 building remains in the present timeline

[somber latch]

Ah so it's the 2099 timeline

[timber sundial]

dork

[gilded blade]

So does this Alchemax have any connection to Norman Osborn? I recall Galactic Goblin from that time still being Norman, who figured out how to become immortal

In the regular timeline Norman becomes Mason Banks and controls Alchemax from behind the scenes

[young cloud]

Wonder when we'll get Spider-Man 2099 with all the alchemax stuff

[worn lichen]

my understanding is that all we know of 2099 Alchemax is that they're working with Public Eye and Doom 2099, they had Captain America on ice before he was freed by Black Widow, and they seem to be working with Public Eye on researching stuff like the super soldier serum, krakoan flowers, the elixir of life, and the infinity formula

there's been no mention of who's running Alchemax however

[gilded blade]

I feel like it could be Norman since the Goblin formula was a super soldier serum and he has worked with Doom before in the cabal

I also think a version of Norman that is this old would be cool to see
Just surviving for decades and taking power.

[heavy falcon]

Guys, what's Wolverines real name?

[gilded blade]

James “Logan” Howlett?

[heavy falcon]

Damn. I never knew about this!

[worn lichen]

it’s possible for sure, though it’s not my personal preference, i prefer the original incarnation of 2099 over the other more recent 2099 universe

[gilded blade]

I could totally be wrong
Oscorp can already be seen in the background of this game so I don't need to justify my favourite Marvel character being around this world
I'm just saying that with his track record Osborn is known to manipulate a lot of things

[worn lichen]

I think it’s definitely possible especially because Rivals tends to take from more recent comics - Doom 2099 having lost his memories is something they took from the new 2099 universe iirc

[humble lagoon]

I'll take the quiet life a handshake of carbon monoxide

[kindred beacon]

Hello Rivals Riders :3

[mossy heron]

Sinister fits the M.O or alchemax

[worn lichen]

Sinister also fits with the season theoretically being mutant focused (cyclops, hellfire gala)

[balmy wyvern]

Guys

I’ve heard hela is lokis daughter idk how that’s possible but yeah and its loki hela crazy

[simple storm]

I mean wasn’t this season supposed to be/line up with hellfire gala since it’s been a year since then

[worn lichen]

yeah we'll see for certain in season 7.5 if there's anything hellfire gala related on the roadmap but I'm guessing it'll be season 8 which mostly lines up time-wise