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Spiderman and daredevil are only good dive heroes rest r buns
Just because a character has counters or there are better characters in the field, that does not mean that the others should get buffed to match
yeah but the difference in skill is a lot wider than before, like trying to dive a support in season 1 vs in season 7. The skill gap between the Magik and the support has to be a LOT wider cause of how much stronger they were than before (power creep)
Magik is excellent where she is, and she lacks almost nothing
Magik's literally a sitting duck out of portal shes slow asf
Cz she have to actively engage in melee range to get overshields unlike dd
I think she lacks brawl potential on her m1, I usually have to place a demon and do a single left click before retreating or I worry I’ll explode against whatever brawl tank they’re running (and if it’s not a brawl tank it’s a dive tank which I don’t interact against and therefore cannot brawl against)
Daredevil would be as bad as magik if he didnt have devils throw
Yet, can still dominate in any rank she plays in
That's not a real issue if you know how to brawl with her correctly
or just play Namor Thor etc and make her unplayable
I don't know about that magik has like close to 60% wr in gm+ but I still think she's not as good as spiderman or dd
it’s like 56 or 58 I don’t think it’s 60; and last time I checked dd had an even higher wr than her
Win% doesn't mean much
Magik 55% dd has 58
Considering Phoenix is sitting at about 50% despite being the best dps in the game
I just started playing Elsa bloodstone and I was wondering if anybody has any tips. I already kinda have the combo down but I'm always looking to improve. Although I'm probably worse on psylocke so some tips for her would be appreciated too
yeah cause her pickrate is so high; most played dps in celestial and above
Whats magiks picrate
she’s just cooldown management and aim, both of which you just get better at over time
Overall or a specific rank?
She's still be playable
Gm+ ig
12% something
You guys just don't play her correctly, idk what to tell yall man😭
Oh then I'm already practically set, thats just my normal ability
This debate is going nowhere
if they’re actually peeling you no not at all unless you have venom or cap
(Angela can’t do crap against Thor)
3.93% in cel+
(can’t do gm+)
Guys I have to agree, Magik is strong. She's at the perfect balance rn imo and she really just depends on who's playing her
All ik is that Magiks always be performing decently in my games, they are all champions though so
Both magik and hela are b tier at best
I do play her correctly and I still think she’s mid, why can’t she be good for a season, like A or S tier in general rather than “well she’s S if she has 3 other divers with her.” Like dd or spider man or whatever are all considered S and they have been for a while, why can’t Magik just have one single season of being good and not mid
Magik has the ttk to get things done before they peel, atleast that's how it's been for me
They're both A tier 100%. I feel like I would know considering they're my 2 most played characters
Why does she need to be A or S tier
How's hela a tier 😭
cause I’m tired of my character being mid for over a year
Be like Kingsman and make her S tier with your own skill
Even punisher better rn
I mainly play off meta and I just want one season where my character is good
Punisher gets whooped by her 😭
Hela just became a teamup merchant they killed her
If she was S tier people would just ban her half the games so you wouldn’t even be able to play her
Magik is B tier max by herself, with a good team she can be A tier
You would never believe this...
It literally all just boils down to the player themselves
Exactly
very few reasons to play hela, only for namor-hela teamup, and if for some reason your aim is better with hela than phoenix
I need Hulk to remain in like A-B tier
that was my argument though the skill gap that you and the enemy support has to have to solo dive them is massive, if it’s a good Magik vs a mid cloak the Magik loses. You have to be like 3x better than the cloak is to dive them, otherwise they just bubble you
the only way to make the gap closer are dive tanks like venom and most of the time I don’t have that
Tbh I do much better on Hela than Phoenix
just a lack of phoenix practice
and you could argue the same thing with any character btw you could say blade should stay B tier because this one blade I saw two months ago did good at him that one time
So I'm kinda biased, but I feel like Hela is a bit stronger. Although I don't play Phoenix in comp or qp
Could be
Cloak has never been an issue for me in a 1v1 personally
As I said, it boils down to the player and that's it
phoenix shoots faster so the rhythm is different, also I think the shot might be even more precise than hela but they don't give out data for that stuff
Rogue, Sue, Namor, most of the other characters you said have never been an issue for me
Ehh, besides Namor a bit
Cloak is so annoying to 1v1 imo. Not necessarily hard, just annoying
The only time Ill lose is if I'm low health, no abilities, or both
It is still quite rare for me in the first place to have no abilities. The exception would be like a tank or a character with a low amount of abilities with strong primary damage
she has been for me lately if she has a bubble; the burst heal makes her completely undiveable by you alone
and on top of that she has fade which lasts for 3s which is half of her effective bubble cooldown
the only way to dive her is if cloak has the reaction speed of a pineapple or you have multiple divers (which again goes back to what I was saying)
or you manage to hit her in that three second window and hope the other enemy support isn’t paying attention
or she just wasn’t saving bubble for you which from my experience is usually just a bad cloak; I’ve even had ones without bubble listen to my footsteps and just fade to high ground and comm I’m about to dive
which granted that is fair since they’re paying attention, but it’s still annoying how many ways of stopping me she alone has
I haven’t even talked about pattycaking, the buffs to base healing like Luna has made pattycaking even worse to try to break through
yeah I don’t usually die to her, but bubble makes me have to disengage and come back. Issue is when I come back, she still has bubble cause of its short cd
only way is if she doesn’t have bubble for whatever reason, and the only value you’re getting from doing that is getting out an effective 6s cooldown
it’s not like lamps where it’s a super strong ability on a long cooldown, it’s a strong ability on a comically low cd
Hey people I got a bunch of chronoshards but I've already bought everything I can on the battlepass is there anything I can do with them
I ask here bc my message gets buried on game chat
you can exchange them for units or accessory points, that’s it
@lilac radish I remember when ppl framed the cnd bans as filtering the weak players....like no...she has a 3s window where you can kill her. That bubble needs to be nerfed, timing on it that is
I completely agree, next season if I play ranked I’m permabanning her if she doesn’t get significant nerfs on that stupid thing
But isn't that only for the people that bought the bp?
I think so
They are just a paperweight then 😭
oh I thought you meant you bought the coins mb
yeah they kinda just sit there now unless you get the bp
the infinity stones
I wish I was jobless. Could barely play this season. I don't even know what the good bans are
everytime I hear paperweight I think of Loki
XD
that makes it better
cat venom groot gambit Elsa
if dive wf cnd invis and I’ve been doing punisher
Idk either. I play sometimes when im back from work and I just throw myself into comp and hope for the best
Is cat that good? I only have done QP for fun so I didn't see great black cats. She has such a weird hit box with that scoliosis she has
I travel for work only have the weekends...I should quit...all for rivals 
Kneel before the best healer of the game
Quit college to start gambling ahh situation
Yeah, my advice is using your I frame off cooldown, it’s a game changer
By chance is your pfp Garfield and like a doctor from Pokemon or something?
Abbacchio pfp, this dudes a real one
Yet also oddly amazing
Ayyyeeee, peak recognizes peak
The Gengar plush is quite amazing
I killed hero chat🥶
Here’s a hot take
we should NOT get Classic Spidey but…..
as much as I like Classic Spidey, we should have BND Spidey
Bnd?
Brand New Day

who dis
its garfield with evangelion character ritsuko
crimge
I was told I was skilless for maining Black Cat 🙃
I reached diamond 2 before work
3 days ago I reached diamond 3
I have a job so I can’t play that much
The goal is grandmaster
People say that whenever you main a meta character
Black cat is fine tho lowkey 
Give Tankpool 10 consecutive dashes
Overpowered, nerf Black Cat
Good stuff man
I hope your grinding goes well for GM
Her abilities are cool tho buying stuff to basically do other characters moves reminds me of Finn from multiverses
Daaaamn that game was lit my main was tom and jerry
Yeah it was tho same it died out.. liked Rick and Marvin the Martian
It was a pretty good game, they just didn’t update it much
But am I though ?
I haven’t even seen enough of her almost no one picks her in my lobbies
What, lacking skill?
You gotta have skill to play Black Cat, so no
Yeah that’s true
I was a top 10 Harley in Multiversus
Ok I just don’t wanna be using skilless characters lol
Season 8 trailer in 4 days 🔥
The most played characters I have to go against are strange , magik , magneto , venom , moonknight
Gotta use whoever you like big bro
Everyone is a magik main apparently
Jesus 💀
What rank are you?
Cuz she’s hot that’s why
Diamond 2
I’ve not seen many Venom players this season icl
I play any character any role
I like venom his survivability is insane
If used right
Oh
Most people are playing her more because it’s dive season
Who wouldn’t wanna play a Magik
I like him too and wanna play him, he just feels clunky to me
Fr Mr double g knows what he’s doing dropping those skins for her 
Just ban Phoenix and he’s actually immortal
This swimsuit one gonna go crazy
He can be at times if don’t fall back and get healed by team he’s very positioned based
I more-so mean his mechanics
The only characters I don’t play are Spider-Man , black cat , Angela , Elsa , rogue , white fox , iron fist ,wolverine , human torch, blade, magik
Feel very odd
Yeah I get it but then again I don’t play rank much or at all 😭
Gotta lock in on Magik big bro, she’ll carry you to GM
Why not?
Nah get on hulk, I got a 79% wr to gm
Gotta learn her port dash tech fr
Dead game
Hulk too
Tbh I’m solo queue and I’m most the time selling my team or just not good team comp ykwim?
I mostly 3 or 4 stack and my cousin is lord magik so he got her down I play solo games but not that much
You can get to OAA one-tricking a lot of characters surprisingly
Yeah that’s if I grind tf outta that one character tho
Ranked is better because you can ban, it’s better than going against Phoenix Elsa Dagger Gambit Loki Mag every game in quick play
Yeah true I play against bots tho I need to get more into ranked
Black Cat is good to learn as well
Anybody you deem fun can probably get you to the rank you want
Are you semi new to the game?
Maybe you suck
Nah I played a few days after release
Maybe but I ain’t denying it not like you had to say anything
How many hours do you have
We all did
mmmm I cannot wait for more vanguards!
Do games vs AI even count towards your playtime
Not many did bro not everyone’s unemployed 💀
@meager urchin is a big W
What does unemployment have to do with this
Uh everything? Not everyone hops on a new game when it’s gonna be released
They hear about it later on
Whatever bro you replied to me remember that
There is a running joke about having jobs and gaming commitment
104hrs
Uhh if you got steam or like whatever whatever external tracker, yes. But it won't show for your actual ingame stats.
Thanks
I’m sure most of it is just pure vs ai 😭
I didn’t know whether it showed in-game, because it’s technically not an active game if that makes sense
Who do you play
I need to get proficiency in white fox to get that lord icon but I just love tanking it y'know. 
And vanguard slots are always open
First ever tank enjoyer

Shhh no you don't. Ban her

I do a mix, tank I go venom or mag, duelist hela, punisher, Bucky, and strategist Adam, invis, or rocket
And CnD
Are you having fun atleast
Is it crazy I don't think hela ult is that good?
Depends
Ig man I stress on qp not even ranked 😭
I mean on its own
If they have a Strange in double tank and your team just doesn’t shoot his shield then, yeah it’ll suck
Agreed
It’s good on its own, it will pretty much always force a support ult out or make them pattycake
Pattycake: in other words, keeping the 2 supports alive while the rest of the team gets roasted
I feel like its better to make space. I should clarify
That’s good atleast
You play one character or multiple?
It is, yeah
Like Punisher or Star Lord ult
I mean like we know ppl hate walking in this game. For me hela ult isn't all that good on its own
I have the hours of a Magik otp, but I’m good at other characters
This me with spidey 🤣
But im not an otp
Cool i like magik
It’s good if your team is good
Agreed
Doesn’t have as much pop off potential as other ults that’ll just annihilate you in a picosecond
I just know most times a hela ults it doesn't do much in my experience
me with Dr. Strange. I think that means you have a main
Mmm nah. It's pretty normal for it to get shredded or people to take cover I think. Its a solid ult but does need good timing nowadays.
People aren't panicking and making mistakes during a hela ult no more
My 2nd main is Psy
Yo thoughts on a strange spidey team up?
Tell me about it my uncle loves maining her
Do they even interact much
Decent amount.
Psy is good i like her abilities plus her skins even though she’s getting most of which I have no complaints for
I’m not a comic reader and I don’t watch tv so idk
I see, it could be interesting
Everybody loves Psy skins
Nobody else needs any fr
From what I got in the newest spidey issue strange contacts the past and future him which we seen in 8 deaths of spiderman if I remember
Fr double g knows what he’s doing
Also in the your friendly neighborhood spider-man show strange interacts with him
I dont😡
well they work well together in a match I think, so if there were a teamup... what if your ult spawned portals in the ground that drop people out of bounds lol
That sounds op
little portals
Spidey got a good amount of them too
You’re just a tsundere
😁

What would that team-up even look like
Luna skins!
Nah unless its spidey, dd, dp, cap, rogue idc for the skins
She got good ones too
Possibly luna cus i main her in support but I didn't like her legendary skins so I didn't get them. Love the esu skin tho
Change the ult to summoning Tobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland Spidermans
.
Idk probably something to do with his get over here
Luna's swimsuit was ice cold
The MVP animation anyway
💔💔
I do have that tho
The mvp is really nice, the skin itself is kinda meh
The hair ruins it imo
bro we need more avoids ffs bro the whole day today i avoid 3ppl get people even worse next game, avoid them then i get the og avoids in my team and repeat
But i use the esu skins cus im a sucker for the casual skins
I agree, having only 3 avoids is pretty dumb
I agree but alot of the time my eomm agents be my friends 😭
Why is there a limit to how many avoids we can have
Probably cus q times
It’s not like people would be avoiding everybody they come across, only the people having a bad day or week for games
I'm genuinely was not supposed to be in gm that long but play with friends is too fun/funny
All's good until the person you avoided just had that 1 bad game and rolls you next match
Gimme 10 avoids atleast
Instead they made avoid 30 days😁
Rolls my team
Would you unavoid if that happens (and possibly avoid ur entire team)

Guys can we downplay dps pool still?
Yes uh
Dpspool is throwpool, supportpool is better at dps than him
I check people’s history to see if it was just a bad game, or if they’re just actually bad at the game
Dpspool is crazy good
And let's nerf dd slam to heal the enemy cus we never use it anyway
Ik he's one of my dps mains😁
Yes and we have to give widow the original dd slam because she needs it
If we remove her stun sure
You drive a hard bargain
G² is going to give widow 50 overshield on kick and 50 overshield on stun now
It’s crazy that Widow isn’t that good, but’ll still win a 1v1 against most dps’
So cyclops ult line is gonna be "MY EYES HURT" and he pulls his visor off and shoots a big beam
Watch we gonna see Tuesday
Watch his only beam ability be his ult, everything else is just melee like Rogue💔
So he shoots his punch beams has 8 rounds and on reload he takes his visor off and rubs his eyes and puts it back on
Imagine his ult is just a giant laser beam in a straight line
cus in highranks too many avoids means insanely long w time
Kit gonna be beam beam burst beam shield (if tank)
Like I said earlier he gonna be like "MY EYES HURT" then takes off his visor 🤣
Queue times are gonna be long regardless, it’s not like avoiding 10 people will give you a 4h queue time
Unless you’re OAA
Double tank season
I’m speaking it into existence
Heh?
I rather wait for 6 hours than queue up with a caveman who doesnt know how to play without raging like a little baby
I often play a very aggressive white fox, sometimes diving with my DPS or Tank if we have triple support or if we are up, would Wolverine be a ideal dps to learn if sometimes I just don’t feel like being a healer?
Would be cool cus then I can just play dps
Wf is supposed to be aggressive w's
Yea but then I get 10 pings for healing when I just slimed both Invis and Wanda (real thing that happened)
Then your team just don't like walking.
Tbh I’m just tired of it, I enjoy that with 2 dashes I can kidnap some players and I just want a dive hero that seems recognizable to me but isn’t insta banned (Like Magik or DD)
Again I also just don’t wanna be a healer sometimes
Cat
I’m scared of those players
When im on dd and I see a wf that's aggressive we gonna cook
Genuinely😭
Nerf black cat
I followed my Malik cus was had triple support and we just bullied their Invis/Rocket
This mmr means everything to me
I just wanna play tank more so I’m not mediocre at it
Then they swapped Peni, Thing, Namor so we generally just cried
Also if you want to dps what are you looking for. Like what's your speed?
If all the widdle babies gather in 1 team and implode all the better
They're too busy avoiding us anyway
Well from most other hero shooter games I play (Paladins, Overwatch, ect) I like dive based hero’s or brawl
I like playing cap rogue dp on tank also
Cap is so good bro
Try dd just change your binds
I have the most hours on Strange, Mag, and Emma
I’m getting into Hulk and Cap though
I just don’t wanna play them in ranked yet because I’m buns at ‘em
people would avoid every bad playerer thy come across
Im at least lvl 16 on all tanks accept Peni now
For tank in general hrs its cap strange and im forgetting everything else but I don't play strange like that no more bc I want to have to open
Possibly a hot take but tank is easier than support rn. I'll explain
Then they can take that 2 hour queue time
People need to look at history before avoiding
Mainly just bc they don't get peels 🤣
You can back off a cnd ult
if the game wasnt reliant on cc and overtuned healing then ppl like panther wouldnt need overshield
Gambit you're forced to either ult or die
I guess so bro
yo we really need to get it into our heads that marvel rivals isnt overwatch
Gambit can easily die through his ult as well
You would need to rework the entire game to remove those issues
And those issues are far more prevalent than overshield, I still don’t understand what the issue with overshield is
Even without those things melee characters with no overshield would be jokes because of how high the damage is in this game
well if the gambit is terrible yeah
I guess man
bp has overshield, would you say panther isnt weak because of this, panther is weak with overshield so they should give him something better to replace this
I guess
i dont die in my gambit ults you still need to be a bit careful
Yes but that's mostly cause the gambit tries to fight for no reason and ends up dying
Majority of gambit just pop ult and either hide in the back or just hide in general
the best counter to gambit ult is a gambit ulted starlord ult
Kills through everything 😭
bp is weak because of his whole kit and playstyle not because overshield isnt helping him enough.
He only became terrible after they nerfed his HP + nerfed his overshield so
What else could you even give him that would less toxic than overshield? If you gave him more damage he would be awful to play against and if likewise if you gave him more mobility but the same damage
majority of the playerbase agree that healing is overtuned so yes that part of the game should be changed..? if they fix supports then he would be a good or decent character, which fixed an issue prevalent throughout the game and helps him
Magik is easily countered too, still B tier
Spidey is easily countered, even higher than B tier
i wouldnt consider magik B tier either
hence why they should fix his kit and not rely on overshield to fix every problem
magiks a tier imo
She is B tier
A tier with a good team
Ok if you nerf healing and remove overshield from divers, now poke is hard meta because most poke characters deal absurd damage and any divers besides Spiderman get thanos snapped if they try to approach since they have no overshield
do people not argue that perk is too strong rn? as ive said, fix the main issues within the game which then helps dive and such as a secondary effect

black cat S dd S
spiderman high b maybe low a
magik C
bp D
thats my thoughts on melee divers
Panther D tier propaganda
You being a support main doesn’t matter, literally any of those divers fall apart if you’re just good at the game and have another decent support
iron fist just not existing
is he even dive anymore
no
actually is there even an ironfist player left i havent seen one in over 100 games
magik is above spider-man for most players
i actually forgot about him
He’s like hybrid but mid at both so like forgotten
also dive should mainly be sneak attacks and such so if we nerf poke a little bit, that allows any character who can basically speed blitz someone with a combo to actually be good, such as bp
by fix his kit are you talking about a total rework or something? because at that point its not even his kit. if you removed black panthers overshield then hes just completely useless no matter what fixes his kit gets
Isn’t it a list in terms of viability and not the avg player tho
you dont need to nerf all divers, overhealth is sort of necessary for them because they usually cannot receive healing at all
what isnt necessary is for ranged heroes to get random overhealth
if anything for dps only dd and black cat needs nerfs dive wise
They only gave more heroes over health because they gave sups self sustain more so back in s2 to make them self sufficient
It all ties back into ppl wanting self sufficient heroes
idk i didn't read that far but the only goobers still playing spider-man are the ones who're looking for the peter-parker experience (suffering) 
So their skill inflates spider-man's viability; he is a d-tier hero compared to every other diver -- except BP.
Magik , DD , Black Cat, all get overhealth -- (blackcat is the most egregious with DD, getting around 400 overhealth holy moly)
BP is the worst (if the BP isn't a champion) in the game
spiderman isnt that bad hes just hyper long to learn just to be worse than dd black cat anyways
I mean in general he is stronger then magik n bp at a cap but ppl never talk about the skill to get to that
luna snow gets more hp, more overhealth, and more self-heal, and more dmg -- it's kind bonkers she's god's favourite princess 
hi hero chat
i think the fox teamup made luna perfectly fine to use, the buff was just hyper random especially the damage part
nope, i came up with an idea yesterday which i obviously dont think will be fully balanced because it was a pop up idea but give him a new ability to replace his passive or smth, where he gets a mini strange attack which does maybe 35-45 damage to be used as a combo finisher where he builds a charge up by taking a small amount of damage (up to 60 maybe) and then releases then in a kinetic energy burst
i fly
Agenda😭
instead of nerfing the op supports we bring back a million buffs to luna snow
why does hitting snowball give luna snow self-heal AND 50 bonus hp
GUANG GUANG SAVE US SPOODERMEN
Anyone would you like to see my artwork dm mee right now😊
i think kit changes such as this and stuff which makes a character more fun to play help the game with balancing issues a lot
If Luna didn’t get hp from hitting her snowball she’d be buns
the self heal part makes sense, any ability she uses triggers regeneration, this includes her new teamup its been her passive since day1
istg im going to find you and tickle you 
Luna is dive food
that depends
she 2 taps training dummies
if you have luna fox she can fight back and has a lot more self healing
If you’re not diving correctly, and if you get frozen then that’s a you issue
allow spider-man to hit headshots to give luna snow a concussion
I’m ngl if ur struggling with Luna that’s a skill issue
Some Luna mains do know how to aim under pressure
istg i will check both your accounts -- i know you're champion lunas -- you won't gaslight me 
literally what would this help giving him more damage? damage isnt his core issue
Why are we acting as though the damage buffs genuinely made her a god or something
luna isnt the worst support anymore to deal with dive shes decent if you have a luna fox team
J Jonah Jameson would approve of you
There is 0 way u think she’s more annoying then gambit or invis
I hate Luna snow
If they have Fox, you shouldn’t be solo diving anyway icl
It can work but it’s just a lot harder
Luna snow is great
hi guys
i mean her primary has the same fire rate as hela, and now if she self snow flakes is the same damage output as hela
this guy knows ball
thats what the dmg buff did
i love luna
The dmg is the ONLY THING SHE HAS, JUST DIVE HER
i mean like i said if u run luna fox comp shes very hard to dive
She is easy to dive man
i mean you must be forgetting its a team game right
"there is no overheal in ba sing se"
Unless the Luna has the summer skin equip otherwise nah I hate her
yeah solo dive was never gonna work anyways
Most divers in the game have a fast enough ttk to kill before peel
That’s factually incorrect there’s a interval between first 2 shots
peeling is about anticipation not reaction
yeah luna does a small triple burst but the interval between firing each burst is about the same as hela shooting single shots
If u don’t count the interval then yes the interval is 0.05
i love luna snow
Diving her is still easy💔
i wouldnt say its easy, shes not that mobile but she can have 2 stuns
They prolly can’t track her CDs and dive when she has clap snowball and charm
her weakness is lunas own skill issue at missing her stuns
If she has Fox on her team it’ll be hard, if not then she’s easy
yeah idk about you but im a tank main and if there's an ongoing issue of my supports continuously and helplessly dying to dives then im gonna permanently make my position a little more to the backline so that i can help with the divers before they can disintegrate my healers
bix
magik is the easiest freeze for luna she goes in a straight line when she wants to attack
bp does the same thing if youre fast enough hes an easy stun
If they have a good team with them then any support would live
spidermans should be terrified to use get over here vs a good luna
its a team game my guy you're considering too little variables
that leaves the op divers black cat and dd who can somewhat easily deal with luna
dd has a deflect that can react to freeze and black cat has an invulnerability
Diving is going for isolated/out of position enemies (also just being an annoyance to backline)
If the team is well coordinated then you shouldn’t be playing dive
i said at the end of the message "small kit changss like this" so i didnt mean to give him that, but give him new options
there is no reason luna snow should 2 tap spider-man tbh
In my 130 hours on Magik, my win% against a Luna has to be above like 80%
It’s not that hard to get around the freeze
I only die to Luna when I’m playing like a gold 3
magik has iframes
then the eternity-oaa magiks i face must just all suck
I’m pretty sure a good enough Spider could just bait it with an extra swing but most would just ego and brute force
Or just not engage with get over here
Yeah man
Nah bruh she takes so much skill 🤣
using all 3 swings, uppercuts, and GOH -- just to get 2 tapped by luna snow
It’s not because of that
thats like saying "to fix widow just give her a faster fire rate" i mean yeah more damage is better but you aren't actually giving her new options you're just making what shes already doing easier
the magik iframes suck though it actually makes her an easier target
they took cap's animation cancel; take luna snow's legs
The portals themselves are super predictable, and shouldn’t be hard for a Luna to just freeze and kill you right after lol
same logic with ur new doctor panther passive here
personally since they changed how snowball works i havent really been missing it up close
its actually hard to miss it
I have more respect for Invis players than Luna players. At least Invisible Woman is a REAL marvel character. Luna snow is a industry plant
increasing her fire rate isnt a replacement ability and this is flawed because a faster firerate would make her busted, a small buff like a new temporary damage absorption ability rather than a passive would seriously help bp without making him op if done right
what exactly does "done right" mean for this
its hard to buff bp by the way they designed him
i mean can you release the absorbed damage instantly
because that would also just make him busted
does anyone have any idea, whts new characters gonna be in upcoming seasons?
devil dinosaur probably
cyclops is an assumption
(for season 8)
popular theory is devil dinosaur + cyclops; but we also have a slim chance of carol danvers (capt marvel)
bruh the fact that daredevil can keep grappling even he misses is op for the one pit in central park near the stairs at the end, he just keeps grapping until it hits someone
oh, i thought they might be bring quicksilver or maybe vision to game, as they would need them for age of ultron event too..right?
i guess
||quicksilver ||||dies ||in the ||ultron movie|| doesn't he? so idk if they'll rely on him for the event
or cyclops would make sense if they doing an xmen event next, but tht would require so many more characters
i mean, he was still part of it tho...... still vision!!!?
whats ur point? quicksilver is alive in rivals lore. and why would a character being dead mean they can't be in the event
delay cyclops all the way until s10 or whatever season itll be when doomsday comes out
👍
he was still in age of ultron
yeah he fought the war, so would make sense
we usually get hints or some rumors abt the hero by now. 😭
the season ending in a few days and we got nthg yet :(
doesnt reduce damage taken by a stupid amount, doesnt reduce damage by an amount too little. and for this, because damage isnt his problem, just give him the absorption.
What are you guys even debating about
not a debate
Been at it for like 2 hours
What is it then
idk bro ur asking the wrong guy
I know people say we're getting Devil Dinosaur, and Cyclops, but the gallery cards look more like Capt. Marvel to me tbh -- do we have other supporting evidence?
how would that work? i mean if he takes like 20 damage during a dive then left would that 20 damage stay in his absorbed damage permanently and the passive wouldnt go on cooldown until he takes a full 60?
We know the next one will be popular and the one after them will be less popular
not too much info to predict one
In season 9 they should add sentry and ghost
They should add more shield tanks🙏
No they are boring
Yet we have to play them
hi
Plus strange and emma arent boring
Not really
And id argue mag can be fun
You dont have to play them
yea, thts why we need to solo tank , a lot of the games - there r were few tank mains as there r less tanks :(((
More dps mains, as there are more dps characters
Hell naw only if you have 30+ hours and doing anything but standing at the front
Flank mag way more better than normal gameplay
Magneto is a ton of fun to play. People that think he’s boring are just bad at playing tank
You can go hulk or rogue if there is an gambit in the team instead of shield
Its satisfying shutting the enemy down, less mechanically and movement heavy but still fun imo
or they have an opinion, whats ur point?
peni is really fun to play and bulli ppl by throwing webs at them again n again 
yeah
Peni is peak
His kit doesn't have much to it to make it fun unlike different tanks that have more in their kit and normal gameplay imo
when i say absorption id say more like a reduction, and btw i didnt mean for it to sound like the abilities were both one, think of this just to be a dmg reduction, a weaker version of wolverines to an extent
But annoying to play against
yeah i know what you meant that wasnt my question
just a simple dmg reduction
Thats valid, i mightve just grown desensitized after 60+ hours of mag but id say he can be fun if you play him right, valid opinion tho
They should add another flying tank instead of shield
you said it reduced up to 60 damage before is that scrapped
that was the other ability i was talking abt
ok
Idk if we need more permafliers lowk, they fun but have a lot of issues
I hope they don't treat the next flyer like torch
He has an offensive projectile, a damaging secondary projectile with a charge-mechanic that has a CC component, a shield that acts more like a counter block move than a traditional shield, and his self and teammate based bubble that you have to actively choose on the fly where to place. The bubbles also recharge his highest form of damage so proper rotation of the bubbles also improves his damage output.
And then he has an ult that has more applications than most people even think about.
Magneto does more things than the vast majority of heroes in the game
magneto is no where near fun bro
Propaganda
every character is someone's favourite. and everyone is good at some character or other.
I personally hate slow characters
bro entire gameplay looop is 3 tapping people and then bubbling every 12 seconds and he is also slow
incorrect
i am correct hes boring, insanely strong, and 0 skilled
Yeah but in actual gameplay normal average mag game there is no fun compared to other shield tanks like strange and emma maybe its just cuz i don't really play mag that much
i hate emma frost , because i don't like her skins
dont even try hes worth it if you need a good frontline tank but if you are looking for a fun tank dont fun tanks are angela and rogue if you wanna seek fun
Thats dps player mentality
did u get bullied by magneto in some of your previous games??? coz it sounds like so...
I have tried magneto but didnt like it, but i have seen ppl play it like crazy. so he should be worth smthg.
How is he 0 skilled💀
there is no way you seriously think magneto is skilled
Yea ik i started playing venom and angela, i play strange too if the team needs a shield tank
let me be your teammate and let me play magneto, u will know how bad i m at it and tht u do require skill to play it 😭
u might be getting good magneto players bro
hes only worth playing if your team needs a good frontline tank i dont have any fun on him
Considering ive managed to mess up playing him before hes def skilled, not the hardest but still skilled. Its all about cooldown management and positioning
so you dont like frontline tanks in general..right?
how do you suck at magneto thats honestly sad
he is not skilled also cooldown management and positioning is said for every single hero in the game
thats not a good statement to make
idk man, i played it once pr twice in qp. wasnt good with it.
so didnt try again
yea i just dont have fun on strange mag and emma
I like the pfp :)
Anyways good evening chat
I wanna see you play him if hes so hard, like no ones saying hes like super mega hard but theres much easier heroes
Ty :33
ah okay, but one of them need to be in team line up tho 😭
they are good for frontline
You're welcome!!
just get used to his slow gameplay and you wil be fine
Two things matter most with Magneto, and are probably why people think he’s annoying to play
You have to be accurate, and you have to have good positioning.
Just standing out in the middle of the lane shooting randomly is poor resource management
He has a slow af reload, and he has a relatively long time between shots. So every single shot placement matters for his uptime. Missing a bunch is way more noticeable on him
i have 10 hours on magneto i only play him when my team needs a fill and he is one of those much easier heros
who is easier than mag?
I am a strange main, with invis combo. It doesn't feel "slow" anymore. Its more fun
strange with invis combo is def more fun than magneto
After reading some of the previous chats I do have to say Magento is definitely skilled. He has a somewhat low skill floor but a very high skill ceiling
Sg, Thing, wanda, cnd, i play half of these guys and can promise theyre easier
the really onlyt fun part about magneto is his ult its fun dunking on people but his nerutral is boring asf
everyone know's those are easier magneto is in with a bunch of those as well he is just as easy to pick up
do I buy bucky skin or save for rogue skin?
dude is one of the easiest tanks in the game 😭
They should buff thors ult
Who do u play more
What character do you like more
Its already good as is imo, decent damage and a stun
Idk I don't even play the character but i feel like it needs a buff
rogue but I'm impatient and we don't know what the skin looks like yet, just SAID to be a rogue skin sometime in s8
I mean maybe like speed but idk, i play him a decent bit and i feel like thor in all aspects is alright rn
Perchance
Idk
If it was changed i wouldnt want damage or stun changed, dont wanna overtune him yk
Yea
behold the god of thunder by the way.
It’s kind of a timing thing, you can mostly only use it in combos or when someone is trapped in a bad spot etc.
It’s a good way to counter a Jeff
Its pretty decent when used well
Counter jeff as in jeff's ult or the character itself
The ult. If he’s about to eat you just Thor ult him. He can’t eat you in the sky and the slam kills him
how to counter jeff, a story
- step 1 : be punisher
- step 2 : turret
- step 3 :

How to counter anyone, a story
- Be punisher
mfw he puts his shotgun in my mouth and pulls the trigger (its a canon event)
First 7 words not necessary
i find it funny how you can become wide-reed and he wont swallow you either
They should make the size of the wall bigger lwk
So i can protect the team better from wanda ult and im
You guys stink


Do you smell like... mangoes
Mango mango mango
mango-lorian 

They should buff Peni’s ult so that it heals more or gives more overhealth to teammates I think
Make it a support ult, lean into it
j
peni's webs should be what any support spider-person should be tbh
play into the idea of building a web nest, and making them good on control maps
Nah
Why is Luna allowed to do what she does
Ill be outa here soon
Luna is the best character oat Thats why
Are we gonna let mantis be a character again or is she forever banished because she was good in season 0
GUYS IVE WON 4 COMP GAMES IN A ROW IN DIAMOND 1 YET HAVENT RANKED UP-
Haven’t lost since touching this rank by the way
I know I’m bout to lose 8 games in a row now
The agents are after me I can feel it
I killed hero chat
Imagine if venom had 2 swings
No dw i gochu
Nononono
her players buy the most skins
(i own the chocolate luna skin im part of the problem)
too op, nerf spider-man ofc
VENOM YES
Naaa nerf freaking dd, neatease doesn’t seem to understand that what pis people off with dd ( especially on console) is that he requires multiple people to kill when he dives the backline
This is not the case with magik or captain America who probably won’t see play if thing or namor are online, they are not shield merchand like dd
As a person who mained venom for like 4 seasons noooo
So genuine question.
As a guy who has not touched competitive yet at all but is basically getting interest, what should I expect, especially as an Ultron main?
Celestial
So I'm screwed?
Expect a lot of toxicity towards you picking Ultron for a 2nd support and expect immediate swaps to hard counter you
spooder-men are coming
Prepare yourself to get bad teammates and lose a lot too, it happens to the best of us
does luna snow have auto aim or something
you will be flamed and hated every game by both teams
her abilities are easy to hit
Is... Ultron useless to everyone's eyes in competitive?
no hes good dmg but he's also low healing vs other options
Ultron is good only into triple support, Kosen said why
ultron is very good against things like peni-parker turrets, because often bad dps dont kill them
His healing is much too low to be a 2nd support, thus making him only good in triple
hes broken but only in triple support and in low ranks everyone just instalocks dps so your team will hate you for playing ultron, on the off chance your team goes triple the other team will hate you for playing triple support
Ok I agree his healing is not that great but he's not that much trash.
Compared to main healers, your team will just get ran through due to his low healing
I was wondering why my accuracy was higher with her lol
I know QP doesn't equate competitive but I still have good games in hard moments.
And also I don't know how many Ultron mains are out there that do competitive so idk.
I dont want to assume no one knows how to play Ultron effectively, I got my strategy and it usually works out well enough
In anything above maybe plat, playing Ultron as a 2nd support will just not work
Can I ask why?
Does not matter the strategy, his healing is simply not enough
He'll get fried a lot of the time too by hitscan
Rivals ranked some straight ahh holy
Well I don't want to shoot for high, just get to gold and get both the White Fox and Black Cat skin
I lost 5 ranked games today to people who had thrown a previous game
and not because they even did well I just had a different thrower
You can probably get to gold with Ultron as a 2nd support because they aren't that great in that rank, but even them I'm not sure
Why do people even throw anyways?
Because they're miserable in real life
Like if someone threw in a different game in Dead By Daylight I can understand but Marvel Rivals throwing makes no sense to me
As much as I would play other healers, I just like Ultron more.
He's really strong in eternity above and pro play tbh
In triple support

ultron can dominate in lower elo (gold/plat) if you've good aim
Cyclops when
I don’t take ultron players seriously ngl
I see Ultron having potential to do enough.
He doesn't gotta be solo or Meta worthy. He's gotta enough to do enough
two pack no pack wit pack yea pack
beetle
https://discord.com/channels/1193841000108531764/1502709478103973938 pls read completely since some broken stuff in the beginning is explained and rebalanced. Also scroll to tye bottom of chat for tye ult idea. The one in the text is not as good
Pls read react and reply
eh?!? We saw each other yesterday
sorry I guess I have bad memory 😭
Any tips on maining Bucky??

I said this then went on a brutal loss streak in Silver, frankly I don’t think I care anymore. Matchmaking in this game is downright abusive.
Iz oki
Manage ur punch for dive its good for stopp8ng em
Like I kinda wanna play tonight but that means gambling with the matchmaking not giving me complete morons for teammates.

Also save your hook for grabbing tanks into ur team or to hook in supports. Avoid hooking dps characters since they usually have at least 1 movement ability
Ultron and White Fox are the only healers I enjoy playing
thank you!
his skill ceiling is so low that he just can't do much tho make up for his kit though
cc spider-man and u win
I also switch between them
lowkey, if they swap widow baton to pistol it would be fired
Hi
the prospect of devil dinosaur possibly being added to the game has me unbelievably hyped
@hollow needle r guess wbat
yeah the pistol would probably be fired
get used to projectile aiming lol
i feel like given the gallery cards it seems likely that season 8 will be cyclops/devil dinosaur. captain marvel isn’t impossible but it feels more likely that devil and scott will be there
they’ve been teasing scott for a long time as well as devil and I can’t think of a reason for the devil dinosaur plush to be there other than to tease a hero
i just wonder if moon girl is maybe the one on the building, or maybe the rogue is a skrull and captain marvel knows this?
like why does the gallery card say "thought patterns"
and the red energy pulse? idk man
I had lost 8 games in a row for differing reasons in each one; and worst part is before that big loss streak I had a mini one before it; so I lost a ton of elo over the span of 2 days; and now I have to claw my way back up; plus it ruined my previously good winrate 
Well rogue in the lore like sapped a lot of marvel’s powers and with them memories so that’s why people draw the conclusion that captain marvel is involved
if we get capt marvel its gonna be so amazing
but they usually do 1 lesser char and 1 more known char
i would be excited to see it as long as it doesn’t get between me and devil dinosaur
i would expect them to be setting up a season 9 captain marvel release alongside the hood if anything
Hey hey
T7yxbjk
Rip bro i kinda had the same thing
also rogue's hands aren't covered which -- ok, they probably we'ren't thinking about this, but she should usually do it in-lore for the protection of others
i think jeff is a skrull
Sometimes u feel silly so u play mantis and u damage the other support the entire game and tell them to do crimes and they get mvp but ur dps get upset that they lost it 
We should fix it together 
Are Adam, ultron, and mantis ONLY viable in trip support?
nah they are also good in bronze
they’re fun!