hero-chat

[umbral shoal]

Guys how can I report someone by contacting the personal support bc that person is BAN EVADING and keeps throwing games

[vague flicker]

if the sinister 6 gets added i think this should be their classes (gonna use the ps4 spiderman version cuz why not)
Rhino-TANK
Doctor Octopus-TANK
Vulture-DPS
Scorpion-DPS/TANK (could be either, personally i think him as a tank would be fun)
Electro-DPS
Mr Negative-HEALER

[sharp drift]

how are you sure he’s throwing games??? I reported someone yesterday for throwing and they got banned without even me giving the replay code

[umbral shoal]

I dont want that his account just gets banned I want that that person gets a hardware ban for BAN EVADING, basically he gets banned on his alt and uses another alt to play and throw again

[sharp drift]

OHHHHH

[umbral shoal]

Wallahi I cant stand ppl like this anymore

[sharp drift]

so an ip ban?

[umbral shoal]

its like the 4th time today

[umbral shoal]

no no HARDWARE BAN it bans your COMPONENTS (CPU, GPU, Motherboard etc.) ser. number

so you basically cant play on any accounts anymore on that pc

[sharp drift]

….genuinely i have never seen that done before

[zenith oracle]

Ip ban can be evaded with a good vpn. Hardware ban is a pain to evade

[sharp drift]

Doc Ock would just be another hamster ball from overwatch

a highly mobile poke tank

[vague flicker]

probably, but either way i dont see how he could be a dps or healer

Mr Negative as a healer would be sick asf tho

[sharp drift]

what about a tanky fast melee healer

[umbral shoal]

They genuinely deserve a ban like that, its something else if you regret doing it and then go on another account and play properly

[boreal wave]

Mr.Negative's passive -- whenever your KDA is negative, gain a 1% stacking dmg and healing boost

[umbral shoal]

but these kind of ppl dont even care and just go on the next account to repeat throwing on purpose

im tired of begging like a dog with very kind words even giving him benefits to play his team ups

to get a respond like : "What if I want to throw" brother gtfo here

[vague flicker]

idk i dont see doctor octopus as a healer ngl, it sounds cool but nothing about his character seems like a healer. If anything Mr Negative could be the tanky melee healer instead

[wispy eagle]

Both should be dps with gadget wheels

[vague flicker]

also yes yes yes absolutely

[solar blaze]

bro why do my qp lobbies feel easier when im stacking i swear i be getting qp games that have gm celestial and eternity players in them since im level 100 and eternity myself but when i queue up with my friends that are way lower ranked than me in qp to have some fun the lobbies are way easier for some reason is there skill based matchmaking in qp or something

[wispy eagle]

They should give everyone over shield for any ability used

[sharp drift]

mr negative e ability, he creates a field where the lower a teammate’s hp is, the higher the damage boost and healing they get

[rigid cradle]

What are you talking about bro how would that work

[vague flicker]

his primary could be like a short range beam, kinda like ultrons teamup, that can both heal and damage people.

[wispy eagle]

You use an ability and get overshield, simple

[boreal wave]

qp games can have anyone in them but usually are around your same rank

[rigid cradle]

That makes no sense man, if everyone has overshield what's the point might as well give them a negative shield

[zenith oracle]

The tech is play spidey for the first half of the match, go 0-18, then swap

[rigid cradle]

Okay bro no need to flex your eternity rank okay just because in hard stuck silver after 500 hours doesn't mean I'm worth less than you

[sharp drift]

just feeding on purpose lmaooo

nvm wanda mains alr do that

[wispy eagle]

Doesn't need to make sense just needs to happen so we can prolong fights

[zenith oracle]

Yeah it’ll drag you down with lower level players
Or if you play a lot of qp it’ll drag you up above your rank, cause for some reason I’m getting gm/celestials when I’m chilling in low diamond high plat most season

[sharp drift]

wait thats possible??? ur fr still silver after 500 hours?

[rigid cradle]

Fights are already too long, the healing in this game is ridiculous

[sharp drift]

true

more buffs/debuffs/utility instead of heals would be great

[wispy eagle]

Increase healing and lower damage

[solar blaze]

yeah i thought so i can tell there is a huge difference in the lobbies i be in when in a team vs playing by myself in qp

[rigid cradle]

Yes thank you common Tyrell w what a house

[sharp drift]

im still pissed Mantis isnt a debuff support like Ana(OW2)

[rigid cradle]

Your Xbox username is very Apt for that statement friend

[mortal lodge]

Why they don't share final hit?

Like I know someone have 15 ko but only 3 final hit

[sharp drift]

lowk im confused asf abt that too

im assuming the game just has REALLY PRECISE final hit detection

[zenith oracle]

If you aren’t the final hit why would you get the final?

[manic elbow]

That's just cause it'd be redundant if final hits had the exact same number as eliminations

[wispy eagle]

Finals should go to who did more damage to the player tbh

[manic elbow]

But that's what the damage stat is for

[zenith oracle]

Once again, what’s the point of calling it final hits if the person getting it isn’t the final hit

[manic elbow]

We calling it the epic hit now

💪

[boreal wave]

"another EPIC hit!" ~ galacta

[manic elbow]

Epiiiix

[boreal wave]

i saw a j jonah jameson announcer mod and im ngl im so tempted

[willow yacht]

Here's my hero hot takes idk how hot some of these are but y'all lmk

1. Hulk is the second best tank in the game.

2. Black cat is stronger than on release Daredevil and is easily the strongest hero we have ever seen

3. Banning Groot/Mk in ranked is a wasted ban

4. Magik and Spiderman are better than Psylocke and Starlord

[willow yacht]

Run dive my friend

[boreal wave]

black cat is strong because her whip is AOE imo -- and her iframes are too much

spider-man has like 3m range on her primary attack , and 4m on his kick -- meanwhile even magic has 5m range on her sword

spider-man primary fire is 2 orders of magnitude worse than magik's primary fire in terms of range

-# nerf spider-man

[somber snow]

Widows batons do more damage than DDs primary
Nerf widow buff dd

[mortal lodge]

Bro can't play other hero he ask other animation lord player to cancel me lol

3 animation lord

[scenic plover]

He does NOT need anymore. It's actually time for a few buffs

[boreal wave]

im a j jonah jameson main tho

[scenic plover]

Think about Peter parker instead of Spider-man even if you probably don't know who that is

[wispy eagle]

How is Groot a wasted ban,

[normal musk]

remove the spider that bit him

[main island]

Spiderman is #1 dps imo

[lean lichen]

imagine magik got 25 oversheild on portal, removed falloff, and -2 sec dash cd on kills👀 she would finally be A tier 👀👀👀

[manic owl]

too much

[inland heart]

No

[main island]

why not?

[inland heart]

Elsa

[lilac radish]

only thing I agree with is mk being a wasted ban, the rest are definitely hot takes

[glass seal]

Yes

[native zodiac]

Prime torch is still best prime

also comparing magik to psylocke and starlord is crazy 😭🙏 she is BUNS

[modest glade]

magik is better

[native zodiac]

No

[modest glade]

melle too op

[native zodiac]

magik d tier

[modest glade]

brainless spam buttons

[native zodiac]

Kinda like psylocke

but psylocke broken

[modest glade]

psy requires aim

something melle players dont got

[native zodiac]

aim is easy point and click

[modest glade]

melle just spam the combo ez win

[trim temple]

Magneto was right

[boreal wave]

gonna install the 2b skin and learn her whilst blasting nier music

[native zodiac]

Did he say melee is skill and predscan is for noobs?

[trim temple]

Probably at least once

[native zodiac]

He was right then

[sharp drift]

is punisher a dive

[main grotto]

melee is NOT skill 😭

[main grotto]

anything is dive if you try hard enough

[sharp drift]

wait im stupid asf, i meant to ask if daredevil is a dive

[native zodiac]

U try to have an impact on a dive dps

[sharp drift]

shotgunsher

[native zodiac]

Yes

[sharp drift]

nvm not gonna learn him then

[native zodiac]

Hes fun suit urself tho

[sharp drift]

dive dps too complicated

[native zodiac]

thats what makes it fun

[main grotto]

daredevil is very fun even if you dont dive with him

[wise lily]

Better than sitting in the back shooting acorns all day long while my pizza rolls heat up

[main grotto]

being able to basically have budget bucky hook is pretty good

[wispy eagle]

The fact black cat is permanently in the game is upsetting

[native zodiac]

hes like useless if u dont dive 😭🙏

[sharp drift]

yeah genuinely

[wise lily]

You’ve never played Poke DD?

[native zodiac]

Ye its unfortunate shes very fun

[sharp drift]

i have never seen a poke dd

[main grotto]

my dive on dd is genuinely so terrible that i have learned to make poke/brawl work on him

[wise lily]

Just wait til you hear about flier DD

[sharp drift]

about fliers

ironfist scares me as an ultron main

these mfs keep flying towards me somehow

[brittle tide]

they should add a flying tank that would be cool

[sharp drift]

ummm

[wise lily]

I… wouldn’t play Ultron into IF he’s genuinely free eats sometimes 😭

[brittle tide]

a flying tank thats actually cool would be amazing

[wise lily]

But then again… I figured out how to dive Ultron as Magik so ig anything is possible

[sharp drift]

usually tho its just an inconvenience because iron man kills them for me lol

or i just fly high enough to where its a waste of their time

[willow yacht]

There's a bazillion ways to deal with him, and there's way better bans in terms of heros who just totally warp the game in their favor ie black cat, daredevil, phx, gambit, even cap is a better ban imo

[main grotto]

wait till he hears about angela

[brittle tide]

i feel like groots full potential is unlocked in triple support

[sharp drift]

triple support is so cool

if only ppl didnt pick healbots

mfs using rocket and jeff in triple support need to be arrested

[brittle tide]

i played a game against groot mag punisher loki mantis and 1 more i forgot

[main grotto]

jeff is like only decent in triple tho

[wise lily]

If I don’t see Mantis in that triple support I already know it’s wraps

[brittle tide]

mantis or ultron

mantis AND ultron?

[wise sigil]

what is better for thor in the bloodhunt crit damage or precision?

[wise lily]

It works, especially if your Ultron knows how to cycle drones properly

[brittle tide]

damage boost spam :0

[sharp drift]

cycling drones is easy asf tho?? just pick the ones with lowest hp/being targeted

[wise lily]

See you’d think it was easy but I genuinely never get good Ultron players lmao

[brittle tide]

when i was one tricking venom for a while mantis was my favorite support to see on my team

[willow yacht]

Magik is 7th highest effective pick rate dps in the game in high elo and 2nd highest win rate out of DPS in the game

She is not buns

[willow yacht]

Nah Jeff is good in duo supp esp when you run dive

[sharp drift]

i thought we alr had kingsman to show she isnt buns

[main grotto]

ok but if u arent running full dive your just kinda down a support ult

[lilac radish]

how?
just 1 shot combo’ing him?

[wise lily]

No she’s D-tier like Thor and needs buffs

And 30 more skins

[trim temple]

Magik is extremely strong in low to mid elo, but her effectiveness tapers off in high elo.

Even demon magiks start getting countered eventually

[wise lily]

Sometimes if my own dash hits I wait for his dash and then use a demon on where I think he’s going to end up

Then M1 and he dies

[neon nebula]

Hmm

[sharp drift]

lowk some ultron players fly really low so this is easy to accomplish

[brittle tide]

imagine groot in pve

infinite walls

[wise lily]

They fly low if they’re near a teammate with a drone

Magik demon with a M1 -> melee usually is enough after his dash is gone

[lilac radish]

huh

[native zodiac]

I cant recall the last time i even struggled against a magik

shes definitely buns

[lilac radish]

Peni is the highest wr character in the game i guess Peni is the best tank

[wispy eagle]

1 wall + nade is more than enough DPS to clear nightmare 160, no gears needed

[native zodiac]

peni the best character in the game

[lilac radish]

exactly ig we need to nerf Peni now

[brittle tide]

imagine they let u increase wall size

[wise lily]

Dash up to Ultron

If her dash hits then cancel it with a portal and watch for where he dashes

If he dashes downwards you can place a demon on the ground and use an M1 -> Melee

If he dashes upwards use Magik slash

[main island]

is magik better than spidey?

[main grotto]

uh prolly not

[brittle tide]

is groot the highest damage tank

[lilac radish]

oh I usually start with a right click, I save it instead?

[brittle tide]

whenever i play him i always get insane damage

[main island]

spidey is the best dive rn right?

[lilac radish]

I usually do right click whirl dash but it’s like 50/50

[wispy eagle]

Is Spidey really as good as people say I feel like he's got too many counters

[lilac radish]

and dd yeah

[main island]

is dd really a dive?

[native zodiac]

black cat is the best diver

[wise lily]

You can do right click but wait a second to see if he dashes as a reflex

If you know for certain he already used his dash then just do the regular whirl dash combo

[unique tide]

he is good but kinda suck vs trip sup. he is pretty solid

[unique tide]

dont forget blackcat. a flanker but also can dive and broken with wf

[lilac radish]

maybe I’m still just bad at her but she seems really feast or famine; more so than Magik

[unique tide]

black cat is op

there is no more cope

[safe agate]

i had a dream that cyclops got added and i thought yall should know

ive been known to tell the future

[wise lily]

It just took a second for people to get good as her but her combos are genuinely crazy

Crazy and fun

[lilac radish]

then how do i usually kill supports cause i normally just spam the whip and it isn’t doing much

[unique tide]

i just dont understand why they give black cat wallhack

[lilac radish]

like what combos

[frank bison]

make bp 300 hp again

[sharp drift]

first auto-aim tank

[unique tide]

you dont need to kill to get value with black cat. her wallhack is op

you hardly die to to iframe , invi, dash, wall climb to get out

[brittle tide]

incoming 1 star difficulty auto aim 500 hp tank cyclops

[unique tide]

generally you can steal 300 gold-> phantom strike->whip

the whip->phantom strike only possible with 400 gold

[lilac radish]

that does enough to kill???

or get them low at least

normally they just out heal everything

[unique tide]

get them low and most secured kill if you get teammate

[wise lily]

Claw grab thing -> Dash-> M1 -> M2 -> cancel into Whip (just hold right click) -> Phantom Dash -> Whip just in case

[unique tide]

and specially WF is with you then gg

[sharp drift]

with an insta-kill ult btw

[lilac radish]

my wf likes just sitting in the back healbotting I don’t get it

[river vapor]

is luna or adam generally more respectable to play

[safe agate]

adam

[sharp drift]

ADAM WAY MORE

[wise lily]

One thing you need to learn is to do her melee cancel into claw whip

If you hit the claw whip it then gets easier to phantom dash right after

If necessary use her little fish artifact before engaging to stop people from escaping

Either that or you can just buy the invisible crown to engage or disengage

[unique tide]

on low rank black cat might not be that good, she is better higher rank you go. In general do not fuss over oneshot combo because of the down time, you can go in do the whip-phantom or if you only have 300 gold you can do phantom-whip. Keep spam the wallhack

[somber snow]

Black cats fish is so useless im ngl

[unique tide]

she is perma in backline or off angle

[mystic pier]

Delete Invis from the game

[sharp drift]

lowk as a white fox main I just follow and pocket tanks while they’re in the enemy teams faces for easy kills lol

[somber snow]

The 2m radius fish isnt good

If the effect lingered then itd be good

[willow yacht]

Penni also has by far the lowest effective pick rate which is the stat I started off with, looking at win rate alone is silly but looking at the culmination of win rate alongside the effective pick rate is very telling.

[unique tide]

it is mu dependant, good vs invi or cnd for example

[wise lily]

We don’t need it to be op tho please no

[unique tide]

but wallhack and invi should be top buy

[wise lily]

You can also just auto assign them to keybinds so you buy them automatically

[somber snow]

Cleanse is also a top buy depending on their backline

mantis and luna are free kills

[unique tide]

i rarely buy cleanse , i rather buy invi instead

against mantis or luna not always, i still like invi more

[wise lily]

Cleanse is good for engage, invis is good for disengage assume you have max coins

(Which you can still get even mid combo lmao)

[unique tide]

the problem with cleanse is that you need to hold it

when I can use invi in that slot instead

if they dont use then it is just useless

[somber snow]

Id rather hold it and disengage with invis than get ccd and die

[wise lily]

Invis is probably the most used keybind out of the shop list it’s so good

[unique tide]

the only time cleanse is good is when you go in knowing they have cc up or anticipate/react to strange ult

which you can with keybind. no bc main should ever need to open shop

you can remove shop keybind and put it on one of your 1-6 artifact

[somber snow]

The bc console players

[willow yacht]

Black cat

[somber snow]

I never use the portal

I wanna try it more cause on certain spots its rlly good for getting in and out

[wise lily]

You can still assign keybinds

I use left d-pad for fish
Right d-pad for invis
Top d-pad for Wallhacks

I don’t use down d-pad only bc I need to communicate

The portal is occasionally situational but I find myself using the fish more than the portal lowkey

[unique tide]

portal is for team and map on high level play and coms, it is probably one of the least artifact you will use
Wallhack and invi are the most used and op one

[somber snow]

Idk what my dpad are bound to i think its emotes chronovision comms

[unique tide]

black cat also counter herself with that wallhack

[somber snow]

The whole team can see ur wallhacks right

[wise lily]

Comms can bring you to emotes tho which is why I only use down d-pad for all of them

Chronovision is useless on BC since you can just portal to the other side if absolutely necessary

[unique tide]

console bc players do be at disadvantage compare to mnk

[lilac radish]

thing hulk Hela Namor wf Ultron

Genuinely what do I even do

[wise lily]

Play Magik into every character

[lilac radish]

can’t brawl it can’t dive it and I don’t play poke

[unique tide]

yea it is just too good, i want it to be 300 gold actually or 200 at least. it is like the best one so far

once blackcat put that up, other black cat cant play the game

[somber snow]

Sg lowkey cooks that comp

[unique tide]

so you have to hope your team destroy it

[somber snow]

Sg hard counters hulk thing and wf ultron arent gonna be able to sustain them

[sharp drift]

true

[unique tide]

focus the ultron if you have hitscan since wf wont be able to protect him

ultron in that comp is mostly a weaklink

[sharp drift]

low mobility tanks are target practice for SQ

[somber snow]

hulk and thing are mobile but she justs roots them anyway

[unique tide]

unless ultron smurfing , it would be easy to kill ultron

wf cant babysit ultron at all or heal him effectively

[somber snow]

Yeah whitefox cant consistently heal

[sharp drift]

ultron should change into loki or gambit me thinks

[somber snow]

Gambit

loki would have nothing to copy

[unique tide]

that one you pick namor since both hulk and the thing pretty much wont be able to interact with the squids. if you feel fancy you can just shotgun puns. a proper tank shield to block hela and namor taking off pressure and you are good

that team will get melt anyway since it is wf and ultron healing

[somber snow]

I saw a wf wanda comp in celestial yesterday

they would ult together and still get no value

[wintry solstice]

dive support***

spider-gwen for dive support.

no pulls, but she can web an ally away from ults/dmg and her and spidey share tracers

[somber snow]

Dive players would hate a dive support
They csnt even beat wf 1v1

[plain rain]

It’s crazy how GM supports still don’t know how to go a proper triple support comp. We got triple MAIN supports and they did not get their ults on time, ever.

[wintry solstice]

Don’t worry, lemme talk to them

[unique tide]

1 tank ?

[plain rain]

Yep

[unique tide]

there you go

[somber snow]

I purely play off supports for this reason

[lilac radish]

I was playing cat and we had a solo tank hulk and our 2 other dps wasn’t doing crap

we had an iron man just shooting at the ground mindlessly

[somber snow]

Nobody ever goes triple tank but 3 tank 3 supp is the best comp in the game

[lilac radish]

then our other dps was on punisher but he wasn’t doing anything - at all

[unique tide]

it is the curse of melee dps, you reply sorely on team

you play dive, you cant peel or do much against non interactable mu
the only way you play is to jump on enemy and hope your team do something

dive is good vs dive not because they are good at peeling but they are doing same job. They put pressure on backline and cut off healing to front which allow your team to push back or kill front divers

[manic owl]

i think 3-1-2 is better

[sharp drift]

true but if the enemy team does the same its going to be longest game ever

[unique tide]

i like 3 tanks specially having off tanks

[tall nest]

[unique tide]

they can kill ppl while having at least x2, x3 ehp vs other

you cant push them back since they are so tanky

[somber snow]

3 1 2 you NEED storm/mk/sg
And you need to ban mk and nobody plays storm sg

[manic owl]

same but its rare tho

[unique tide]

when that happens you are forced to pretty much play meta heroes

depend on comp

[trim temple]

Why do they always do this

[somber snow]

Peni groot thor storm invis cnd is nasty tbh

[autumn wharf]

invis cnd pretty much makes anything viable

[trim temple]

I will say I was forced to solo tank the other night but my team ran a Mantis, Ultron, and Luna so it worked out for once. They had so much poke value and they kept damage boosting me when I ulted so every Magneto ult hard countered the enemy supports

[covert tartan]

what counters hulk?

[trim temple]

All I had to do was keep the fight at the chokes and my team shredded theirs

[unique tide]

cuz it is not like it doesnt have answer. for example 2 healers all it take is one DD to buy time and your backline should be able to push them back

in trip sup for example, ultron can just put 2 drones and entirely free to focus backline while pretty much your frontline is non interactive to him

[lilac radish]

it’s the convergence spider islands map and I place a portal to get past the first choke and spam ping it and my team just stands there I genuinely don’t get it

“ooo, a free get on point card. Let me just stare at it”

I swear some of the people today are actual bots

[somber snow]

this is what mantis should be tbh 😔

[visual gale]

What is the best way to counter the hela namor team up

[cinder rune]

do u think mind control of loki on the avenger mode is a teasing for professor X ?

[main island]

ban namor

[somber snow]

Give mantis better passive healing so she can leave to take angles instead of being forced down main to feed ult charge into the enemy magneto

[somber snow]

I hope not thats so unbalanced

Uncounterable unavoidable guaranteed death

[cinder rune]

it will be his ult so he wont spam it as much as loki, but would be fun to mind control an ennemi and use his ult

[somber snow]

They would just waste the ult and jump of the map
Thats not balanced at all

[sterile prawn]

Do it better ig

[green hinge]

They should have made HAWKEYE A SUPPORT DPS

HEADSHOT DOES 50 BODY DMG HEADSHOT 100 TO ENEMY TEAMMATES GETS 50 HEALING PER ARROW

[lilac radish]

I’ve played 5 games and 4 of them has had ultron what is going on

it’s different people too

[plain rain]

Ultron in duo supp?

[violet adder]

I forgot how wild the suggestions channel is😭

[silk marlin]

is there any point in trying any other MK build other than glider in higher blood hunt levels?

feels like fist build is a meme and without maxing glider stats u just don't do enough dps

[unique olive]

im new to luna, is there any situation i shouldnt be using lunas f abilty

[lilac radish]

yes but I play dive so they basically have 1 dps until they kill him (they’re just not killing him)

[pearl summit]

h

i killed hero chat 🥶

[trail trout]

Gj

[sturdy rune]

tuff tuff

[pearl summit]

yeah ik

[violet adder]

no healing for the chat

[pearl summit]

never say this again

[cinder rune]

yeah but during it professor would be tottaly vulnreable like an afk and easy to kill

[lilac radish]

wanna play qp after this game?

[violet adder]

yeah sure, I'm down for a few

[sturdy rune]

marvel rivals in the big 26 💔

[bold lily]

Kinda glad Hawkeye is heavy nerfed, can hanzo one shot in overwatch? I don't play overwatch and haven't since 2016/17 so don't remember

[waxen fiber]

He can

[pearl summit]

i guess

[bold lily]

Funny that I'm glad cuz I'm Lord Hawkeye in s0 lmao

[sturdy rune]

they nerfed hawkeye?

[trim temple]

Shield tanks to a degree, but the dps just need to be better at killing than they are

[sturdy rune]

I got celestal in s1 with hawkeye 💔 did they nerf my boy?

[bold lily]

They lowered headshots from 350 at full charge to like 320, and he's 250 HP instead of 275, and if you haven't seen changes since the game released the charge is only 40m from 60

[trim temple]

Buffs and nerfs and tweaks all around

[sturdy rune]

I didn't play ever since s1 tbh

game is hella boring idk why I'm here

[bold lily]

The ult is way better than release Hawkeye tho

[sturdy rune]

how

I remember 1 buff to its ult that's all

[bold lily]

Faster fire rate, insta 100 charge as soon as you aim, maybe slightly more afterimages? Not sure on that last part tho

[sturdy rune]

Man

s1 hawkeye was so dangerous

my strategy backthen was simply headshotting healers

[sturdy rune]

how's the healer ult? is it still stupid

[bold lily]

It's the same just he's more vulnerable playing within 40m and 250 hp

[bold lily]

What healer Ult?

[sturdy rune]

idk forgot names

[trim temple]

Most of them got buffed in fact

I think only cloak and dagger got any notable nerfs

[sturdy rune]

I literally played 200h got my peak then dipped

[lilac radish]

I just killed the enemy Magik in a 1v2 with her having a wf pocketing her there’s no way bro

[sturdy rune]

don't remember CD nerfs, but I remember it was possible to 1-shot her during ult after a nerf

[bold lily]

They made it a decent bit harder to rank up after s1, a lot of people had their peak then

[mortal lodge]

Luan got nerf juff got nerf

[lilac radish]

I just dash behind a wall cause Fox already used tp and their Magik chased me when their wf couldn’t follow and killed her 💀

how do you lose that with a hard pocket

[sturdy rune]

Yup, game was too easy back then as well. was plat DPS, switched to tank and got celestial almost instantly in 2 weeks

[fast salmon]

can we please nerf the abomination that is Blade, he literally does not die

[mortal lodge]

Idk man I didn't play him since launch

[mortal lodge]

Ya he doesn't die if you playing tank I can confirm that

[bold lily]

We're complaining about Blade now?? Lol

[mortal lodge]

Like thing is worse match up ever

[fast salmon]

350 hp, lifesteal, reduced healing, perfect parry, plus wallhacks

[bold lily]

His Ult is still side steppable lmao

And if he gets kited GG also

[mortal lodge]

I think only Thor and do can win against him

[fast salmon]

remove his lifesteal and anti heal

Im Eternity and Blade is always banned btw

[bold lily]

And Bucky , I'm assuming u meant daredevil

[mortal lodge]

I am taking about tank

[bold lily]

But I mean he can still get poked out

[mortal lodge]

After this season nerf I can comfortably win against dd

Last season even tank can't win against him in 1v1 scenario

[bold lily]

Idk his tank matchups really I never face blade and if I do he gets crapped on

[fast salmon]

a good Blade is cooking prime DD in a 1v1

[humble dock]

Star lord god

[mortal lodge]

Seems like propaganda

[fast salmon]

nuh uh

[split cape]

hell no what the hell

[mortal lodge]

You don't know the fear give me dd

[bleak cobalt]

💔

[mortal lodge]

I stop playing game like 1 months

Not single character could 1v1 dd back then even 2v1

Another thing I am pretty sure human touch getting nerf

what you mean you get reload your ammo if you dash

[mystic pier]

Human Torch you mean right?

[pearl summit]

i killed hero chat 😭

[mortal lodge]

Ya

[pearl summit]

yeah okay

[tall nest]

Players playing dps when they don't have any lord or them. Then they do bad. I go to one my lords, first 10 seconds I get a kill in second round. Amazing matchmaking netease

[crimson plume]

eh lord means nothing tbh

[tall nest]

it kinda does when you are gm3+

knowing how big much better players here are compared to lower ranks youd get diffed hard when you trying to play a hero without much playtime

which was clearly a thing before I swapped to one my lords, and I don't want to flex dps in this rank

thats how bad they were

[pearl summit]

youd be surprised

[somber snow]

Our magneto saying wf swap we need more healing

i outhealed invis by 23k

[woeful shore]

rivals may require a device ip linking to prevent smurfing in the future based on a survey....

[scenic kraken]

Cyclops should be a strategist

[lilac radish]

I just 1v2d a lord Magik getting hard pocketed by a wf so yeah…

I didn’t kill the wf but I killed the Magik and got away

[crimson plume]

overwatch players still mad abt that lol

[violet adder]

First game on cat, and we going up against avengers

[eternal otter]

As I should. I don’t have enough money for phones

[mystic pier]

Deserved lowkenuienly

[woeful shore]

either way thats gonna be a hard gutting to smurfing overall

[crimson plume]

eh
they just use those temporary online numbers

[woeful shore]

physical ips not software

so based on the pc you have account on

[violet adder]

[lilac radish]

nah they were free they were just running Peni

(and we had an 8-12 punisher)

[tall nest]

AAAAN another match ruined by one of the dumbest hero players alive: Rocket

🙂

[stone lance]

Stop putting Eddie in skins 😭

[edgy smelt]

one day black widows gonna get a buff that'll make her meta and squirrel girl will be the new throw character but that days not coming anytime soon because widow hasnt gotten a buff in over a year

[mortal lodge]

Cycle will heal with his beam that come from energy dimension that destroy living things

[scenic kraken]

Ultron is a strategist and he is literally the best strategist is marvel

[tall nest]

99% of the time you see Rocket/CnD player, you will lose. Also if they have a Jeff

[edgy smelt]

well was invis invis the whole time

[mortal lodge]

Sg not bad I give her B tier

[cerulean osprey]

does anyone have a video or a guide for fantastic and elsa thats recent

[edgy smelt]

yeah scrap that, blade

[mortal lodge]

I mean I can see the vision for Ultron begging support
Just how cyclops will heal anyway he is leader of x man but

[cerulean osprey]

best strat that isnt just click and heal

[mortal lodge]

If lead it should be tank

[edgy smelt]

healing tech

but that wouldn't make sense for his character so no

[cerulean osprey]

is the hardest healer to learn mantis

[edgy smelt]

no

[cerulean osprey]

who is it

[edgy smelt]

shes one star this has to be satire right

[mortal lodge]

He doesn't use any tech beside his suite and glass

[cerulean osprey]

i mean shes the only healer that has her stuff on a timer no?

[edgy smelt]

depends on the player mate

[mortal lodge]

I will say wf rn

[edgy smelt]

no

[cerulean osprey]

idk then

i wanna learn elsa and fantastic but im worried the vid i watched are too old so their stuff do different

[edgy smelt]

i mean literally every character is equally as easy to learn, just watch a guide video and you'll know the basics at that point

[random stone]

i can tech u

[edgy smelt]

its not like learning = mastering

[cerulean osprey]

appreciate it but i wanna have videos instead

[violet adder]

LMAOO

[random stone]

I recommend Necrosy

[cerulean osprey]

tyty

[lilac radish]

so you think it’s as easy to learn Wanda as it is spider man?

[trim temple]

What if Cyclops is bulked up because of exposure to Chronovium and he’s basically like the Hulk but also has his eye beams

[mortal lodge]

Why penny need to get 2 bp legendary skin?

Like tf or I am wrong?

[edgy smelt]

yeah pretty much, about the same unless our definitions of learning are different

[mortal lodge]

I feel like she got 1 before

[edgy smelt]

the basics of spiderman and wanda are straightforward you can learn the basics in like 10 minutes

[trim temple]

She got a couple epic skins in the battlepasses, one legendary from a battlepass, one legendary from an event, and one legendary in the shops

[mortal lodge]

Idk man they thinking black cat would been cool tank look how big she is but she is dps

[trim temple]

I honestly think she was supposed to be a tank and they changed it for some reason

[edgy smelt]

spidermans just go for low hp target and do the basic 0 iq beginner combo wandas just stay near tanks and just kill low hp targets or people that get too close

[radiant trail]

whats the best tank to crawl out of elo hell

[mortal lodge]

Rouge feel so bad this season

[hard forge]

Groot

[edgy smelt]

not really

[hard forge]

Or probably a dive tank

[mortal lodge]

You don't know how many times people get that cc resistance if she pop her skill

Like every skill count cc

You can't even combo probably

[edgy smelt]

yeah it doesn't really do all that much though

just play around it

[violet adder]

tankpool

[mortal lodge]

I don't think her uppercut should be cc

[edgy smelt]

wdym?

like you mean it shouldn't count as cc?

[mortal lodge]

Ya

[grim glacier]

To work on my aim who’s the best hit scan to start with

[edgy smelt]

aimlabs

[orchid walrus]

An aim trainer, fundamentals before anything

[mortal lodge]

Playing match is best way

[somber snow]

Yes

[edgy smelt]

ok guys it was funny when i did it just answer his question

[mortal lodge]

I don't think aimlabs help Mr that much it looks so different

[somber snow]

does mantis need to swap or does one of our 3 dps need to go a 3rd support

[orchid walrus]

Aim trainer is the best way for aiming. Those skills will transfer in game

[somber snow]

because mantis is ace and is 23 and 2

[mortal lodge]

I can't play Mr after tomorrow sad rn😭

[hard forge]

Dps Mantis gotta swap

[tall nest]

why this game hate me.

😡

[somber snow]

And not the 3 and 18 bucky

[dark lava]

the way I only want cyclops to be a vanguard because it means his chest will be bigger

[trim temple]

If you only have 1 tank it doesn’t matter either way

Triple support one tank is awful. Triple dps one tank is awful.

It’s not the Mantis player’s fault

[mortal lodge]

I mean how mantis doing ask her accuracy and impact

[untold sundial]

I’d say pun. He has the highest frequency of shots, and does a high amount of damage as well as teaching you tracking

[somber snow]

Mantis works fine in 1 3 2 anyway

[hard forge]

Well you didn’t say that before

[somber snow]

More than our dps

[hard forge]

Ofc a negative dps has to swap

[trim temple]

I’d say that’s the only way she would work in 2 support tbh. More opportunity for aggressive damage output to make up for the lower burst healing

[somber snow]

She works fine in 2 support

period

on defence no

on attack yeah

[hard forge]

Maybe if you have a top 10 + Eternity Mantis with magnificent headshot%

[somber snow]

well i am rank 3 mantis rn lol

but nobody actually plays her so idk how much a flex that is

[tall nest]

😮 rank 3

[somber snow]

I was rank 1

for like a week 🥀 🥀

[hard forge]

Then she’ll be alright in double I guess

She will not work most of the time though

[mortal lodge]

Give mantis her speed back like tf she do
She doesn't have any mobile whatever

[somber snow]

I miss s0 mantis when she was the best character in the game

[trim temple]

I’d rather have a Mantis than a Cloak or Luna any day. Cloak and Luna players are always such jobbers

[mortal lodge]

Mantis is my first lord

I played her season 0 80h

haven't touched her since then

[somber snow]

Everyone played her in s0

She was the 3rd most played character in s0

And the highest s0 winrate in both comp and qp

[mortal lodge]

Why Luna get both freez and hight mobility

[orchid walrus]

I felt the ptsd from getting a snowball on the face, the tank bias is showing

[somber snow]

Mantis was last buffed 10 months ago

😔 🥀

[unique tide]

Get ready for MARVEL SNAP’s hottest season yet!
ohman marvel comic just posted psy and magik summer skin 💀

holy magik will def getting that summer skin

[mortal lodge]

Magik getting 2 lp in one season like bruh

And ya nobody play magik

[orchid walrus]

We are undefeatable...unless the devs intervene

[mortal lodge]

I forgot is mantis only 250?

[unique tide]

console play magik like she is def top 3 most popular one for console

all the console spenders on that magik summer skin

[mortal lodge]

Like her pick rate is single digits

[somber snow]

They nerfed her

[verbal drift]

Guys how do you customize you’re names like that?

[edgy smelt]

does she need buffs

[weary hull]

Guys should I learn thor or hulk?

[edgy smelt]

whatever you want bro

[somber snow]

idk if she needs buffs i think everyone else needs nerfs

[mortal lodge]

No revert her speed nerf

I will be ok

[weary hull]

I’m too indecisive any idea whats easier for a beginner?

[tall nest]

Some player in t500 with 460 wins. I only have 35 in ranked so far

[edgy smelt]

check the difficulty level

[mortal lodge]

I don't think it helps

[mortal lodge]

What role you want to play?

[trim temple]

Luna is a great dps, one of the best in the game

She’s a dog water healer

[edgy smelt]

wdym he just said which ones easier

the difficulty level says which ones easier

[mortal lodge]

Like venom is 1* like tf he is one of hardest tank to pull of

[mortal lodge]

Nah

[edgy smelt]

yeah in terms of ceiling but hes easy as hell

[mortal lodge]

And no way mantis is 1* too

[edgy smelt]

to learn

[mortal lodge]

Nah

[edgy smelt]

you swing dive shield then swing again if ur a beginner

[tall nest]

how many ranked matches have you guys won already?

[mortal lodge]

CnD should be 1*

She is 3*

[boreal wave]

swing , get ice'd by luna , die

[hard forge]

Like 80 of 134

[vague folio]

[hard forge]

Most were on Magik, my winrate with her was 80+

[edgy smelt]

probably because of her two different modes it takes longer to get the hang of

[cyan sphinx]

This is good news. We can finally be bees

[edgy smelt]

compared to swing, dive, swing again

or heal, damage boost, heal again

[mortal lodge]

If you play 2 match with her it no issues it looks like hard it like water

[mortal lodge]

Mantis need to be 3 or 4*

First you need to be very active

You need to know who to give damage boost or healing

You need to do headshot

He sleep isn't even accurate than Luna freez

[weary hull]

Im not sure I’m just tryna learn a tank
I tried Venom but i got no real shield so I died really quick

[tall nest]

another match ruined by a CnD player

[edgy smelt]

thats to play her good, getting value with mantis takes a lower amount of conscious effort thats why her difficulty rating is 1 star

[mortal lodge]

Most easy tank in game is thing but you need to back up when needed you good

[hard forge]

Wym you got no real shield

A shield like Mag and Strange?

[mortal lodge]

Probably taking about shild

[unique tide]

cnd is the most hated sup ? i am convinced

[edgy smelt]

mate he gets like 1000 hp ur not using the overhealth right

[mortal lodge]

You need to pop your over shield it e

And swing out

Btw don't attack solo with him if you can

[weary hull]

Yes

[mortal lodge]

Idk so
I think Adam is most hated but if bad at cnd you still can get value

[hard forge]

Jeff is most hated

[wispy trout]

Yup adam hater here 👋

[hard forge]

Ah I see.

Venom is not that type of tank; Venom is a disruptor type tank that is meant to essentially always be on the backline being annoying.

It depends on what your playstyle is

[unique tide]

rarely seeing anyone hating on adam

guy is cool

[wispy trout]

Venom has insane survivability. Just press E or RB when you’re around 200 hp for 1,000 temp overshield at the press of a button

[mortal lodge]

What is most rare hero you see in your match

Beside bw

[wispy trout]

Probably adam or storm

[mortal lodge]

Lol
Last season was ht for me

But this season I see him regularly

[unique tide]

wanda or torch, rarely seeing them

blade is also non existence

[mortal lodge]

Idk man they should buff him more he is really close to be broken

They should change his kit for better sake

Same with bw

[austere arch]

Is it just me or is the quick match matchmaking absolutely horrid

[unique tide]

still dont understand why blade has the worst gun or shotgun in game. his sg is terrible at close range

meanwhile bucky can just 2 taps anyone upclose

[austere arch]

why are the opponents all gm+ and my teammates are peak plats

[unique tide]

qp dont have mmr so

[mortal lodge]

I mean I get celestial player

[mortal lodge]

Probably playing as team

[unique tide]

even they have mmr the gap is very very loosely

[mortal lodge]

I really want a stable game mod like hid the flag

It would be cool nah?

We only have capture and Escort object

Last one went horrible

I think it because horrible map desine

[placid escarp]

youd need to lock certain characters characters for that mode though

no one is gonna enjoy ctf with spasticman allowed

[edgy smelt]

movement abilities disabled when holding flag

[mortal lodge]

I mean don't need to copy 1 to 1

[edgy smelt]

location revealed after 5 seconds too

[trim temple]

Give the flag to Mag

[edgy smelt]

debuffs based on roles

• buffs based on roles

[placid escarp]

liek a constant grounding effect

[edgy smelt]

constant earthbound effect

[mortal lodge]

Who likes bh ?

I don't like they took away the rouge like

[vague folio]

The other day I had a game where my team was all new accounts while the enemy team had several GM+ players. My account is level 71 btw.

[mortal lodge]

Like rouge like us infinity gameplay glitch

[placid escarp]

zombie mode is a brainless activity

[mortal lodge]

But after getting good gear you doen

Ya good job and without gear it makes or break your character

[unique tide]

it is less fun and less challenging than the last one

the last one was rng but overall very challenging

[mortal lodge]

I mean I wouldn't say that

But 4 stack it feel horrible

But if you solo it is good

And easy

[unique tide]

I play solo

[minor granite]

For a Overwatch tracer/genji player (PC M3 and unranked console) who would be the ideal hero to learn for rivals dps

[mortal lodge]

Try clearing 4 stack 160 man what the point

[placid escarp]

the challenge only came from one shots though

[mortal lodge]

You can try star lord

[lilac radish]

starlord and/or psylocke

[violet adder]

stillnot enough hate

[minor granite]

The one guy and 7th best Mutant

[violet adder]

its why I like it

[lilac radish]

gambit also has that genji kinda primary

[minor granite]

I target kill Jeff no matter who I’m playing till they swap

I sat outside a Jeff’s spawn once and told his team to just pass by, let me have the shark.

(Doing this as Tankpool and Hulk btw)

[rich swan]

what are all the heroes with hela/phoenix style hitscan m1s?

[manic owl]

prob hela or phoenix

[rich swan]

well... erm... other than those two...

[placid escarp]

mmmm widow i suppose

[rich swan]

yeah that's one

[placid escarp]

luna

[violet adder]

W

[manic owl]

theres adam

[mortal lodge]

Punisher

[lilac radish]

ok maybe black cat is op…

[rich swan]

i wouldn't include him
he's more focused on tracking

[mortal lodge]

Why everyone forgot punisher is hitscan

[minor granite]

Uhh idk prob Ashe scoped

[mortal lodge]

I am pretty sure he is

Bw is too if I am not wrong

[manic owl]

he is hitscan but more focused on tracking

[placid escarp]

i wouldnt consider punisher to be the same type of hitscan hela and pheonix are

[rich swan]

he is hitscan
i just don't think i'd include him as the same type as pheonix/hela

[mortal lodge]

Oh

[manic owl]

another would prob be adam

[rich swan]

phoenix hela deal high damage in one attack while punisher outputs constant fast low damage shots

[mortal lodge]

What about Luna then

[rich swan]

a bit mixed on her, but generally i'd say yeah

i'm just trying to find a hero to play to improve my hitscan aim so i can adam better

[oblique oxide]

Until he whips out the shotgun 😔

[mortal lodge]

I think they should probably bring back some old team up

It been long time

Idk how Luna and Jeff team up will work rn

[summer basalt]

Good thing no one in my ranked games knew how to play her. Only saw her three times throughout the grind

[mortal lodge]

I don't like her movement

Feel sloppy

[oblique oxide]

It’d be kinda cool if infinite ammo came back but they would have to remove the increased attack speed and make it destructible

[mortal lodge]

Gamma iron man when

[summer basalt]

Her movement looks odd, I couldn’t tell if it was intentional or not.

[tall nest]

Actually funny, I ragebaited spiderman into ragequitting

oneshotting him as hawkeye

[edgy smelt]

when are the old team ups returning

we need planet x pals back

[summer basalt]

Black Cat almost moves like a tank

[tall nest]

More elusive than Venom

[rich swan]

is it just me or do dp's headshots feel odd to hit

[edgy smelt]

rogue victim

[mortal lodge]

You remind me dp maid soud effect is trash

Wtf are those sound effects on gun

It feel horrible

We need something we can trun it off

[rich swan]

you literally can?

[summer basalt]

Any dive dps is a rogue victim

[mortal lodge]

?

[summer basalt]

No bring back the freeze arrow. I missed my opportunity of using that teamup

[rich swan]

there's a toggle for special sfx

[mortal lodge]

Isn't visual sfx

[edgy smelt]

we need the star lord teleporter back

[rich swan]

nope

[mortal lodge]

?
He still have them lol

[mortal lodge]

Really I never touched

[edgy smelt]

and we need hela squid team up back

[mortal lodge]

Ya

No

[edgy smelt]

and gambit rogue team up back

and fastball special needs to come back

[mortal lodge]

Lol

Storm and Adam have one of the most pointless team up possible

[woeful shore]

For Strats the patches I need. Nerf Luna cloak white fox
buff: suppool mantis Adam (teamup and flight) and EVERYTHING will be balanced

[final temple]

yea it’s just fart heals

[mortal lodge]

Both Luna and cnd probably have negative win rate idk man

[woeful shore]

Adam is in his ibs era

[mortal lodge]

I follow comics I never saw Adam and Strom together like tf

[woeful shore]

Voice actors asked for it

[mortal lodge]

Then at least give someone useable

[woeful shore]

Reducing lunas damage and possibly giving her two snow flakes or a healing buff ain't too bad and cloak having a better heal speed rate but her ability cool downs extended wouldn't hurt

[mortal lodge]

If Adam did spin and shoot that heal and damage enemy it would been funny

[woeful shore]

Also it looks like we may have several teamups get reset in one sitting

[summer basalt]

It’s still there, I used it last week

[manic owl]

bring back the adam revives

teamup

[lilac radish]

how so?

[mortal lodge]

It really be strong rn

[hardy ledge]

is ironfist worth getting into?

[keen goblet]

The revives were so stupid

[manic owl]

[hardy ledge]

whaaat

[mortal lodge]

Idk he needs damage buff but ya

[woeful shore]

Lore wise the tournament is starting soon and a lot of the characters have had a lot more in depth interactions. It would be a perfect opportunity to cycle out the old teamups too which they have discussed weren't mean to stay

I'm like pretty sure all the ones in the symbiote season and kun lun season are getting the big reset button

[mortal lodge]

Here me out we can have multiple team up and let's us choose like a outfit

[woeful shore]

So that's Angela Thor Dd punisher Phoenix widow cap Bucky

[woeful shore]

Punisher rocket peni meta would ensue

[mortal lodge]

Nooo

Btw I don't understand why Groot still have that backride team up

It there since season 1 I think

[woeful shore]

I don't either

[violet adder]

Does DPs dashes have no reg sometimes?
cuz they happening to me😭

[mortal lodge]

5m I think

[summer basalt]

Namor getting another teamup next season bc it’s his gimmick atp

[tall nest]

what the hell man, why is qp getting domination maps only?

[mortal lodge]

It my dream

I hate escort map

[edgy smelt]

we need the luna snow and white fox team up back

[eternal linden]

I agree, I keep getting the old Yggsgard map 😭

There’s a reason it was removed

[steel palm]

why was it removed?

[lapis remnant]

It's terrible, that's why.

[static shard]

Rivals please make Cyclops a vanguard we don’t need anymore duelists. Duelists don’t deserve his greatness. (He’s definitely a duelist)

[shut yarrow]

Black Cat is everything wrong with the power creep in this game

[bronze stump]

😟

[static shard]

Mr Fantastic found dead in alley

[shut yarrow]

Half the dps roster found dead she does their job 10x better and has a better kit then basically anybody

[static shard]

Yeah the roster basically consists of 6 main duelists and everyone else who does their jobs worse

Blade, Storm, and Mr Fantastic will never see the light of day

Iron man had his moment in the sun in season 0 so he has no sympathy from me (flying squirrel girl mains)

[mortal lodge]

Idk man see seems ok to me I guess her ultimate is overpowered

[long geyser]

It wouldnt be bad if it didnt reset on each elimination

[static shard]

She’s definitely close to DD in power. The rest of the dive characters are kinda buns (besides Spider-Man who is easy to counter)

[summer basalt]

Luna’s charm coming back in the big season 21🤧

[static shard]

All these seasons of Invis has me missing Luna meta

[shut yarrow]

A GOOD black cat can run the game. She is basically immortal with the amount of utility/evasion she gets so it’s either outheal every dive (almost impossible bc her damage is so high), kill her (she gets 5 evasion abilities if I rememebr), or get away (again 5movement abilities)

[lilac radish]

43-5 with 31 final hits and we lose :(

[shut yarrow]

• her ult does PERCENTAGE damage (I think it was 25% of max health per the weird swipe of the ult) so she kills tanks easy and can out damage almost every support ult with even a single other character damaging the healer

[primal flume]

Do you guys think healpool can be good?

[mortal lodge]

Ya

They just need to increase his hitbix for gun and give more ammo

Something I feel like it smaller than luna

[primal flume]

I think it is 🤔

The reason I asked is my friend is top 200 on him and still cant climb

[warm jasper]

Agreed

[warm jasper]

He already is

[eternal linden]

Worst map in the game no question

Specifically Orin’s Archive

Ugh

[warm jasper]

AHHHHHH

AS A PENI FAN… map ain’t bad

[primal flume]

He has the lowest win rate next to black widow

[warm jasper]

But when your losing on that map just leave at that point

[tall nest]

Hate that map

[warm jasper]

I swear it’s the players. When I play him I always get most heals. And a good bit of kills

Maybe his lack of damage unless you dive?

[primal flume]

Yeah that is the same with my friend he get MVP 40% of the time and almost always has the most heal and a ton of kills

[warm jasper]

But when my teammates plays him they are getting outhealed by peni

Like buddy

[placid escarp]

eomm agents

[warm jasper]

All of them play healpool I swear

[lilac radish]

the support ult part is not true

[violet adder]

the strange ult at the end got them that win💔

[primal flume]

Yeah my friend has a 8.5 KDA and get 2600 heals a min with him on avg. Idk I think that is good as a healpool or is he just a EOMM agent?

[warm jasper]

That sounds decent

[toxic ermine]

Are there any particularly good guides for gambit I could look at to learn how to play him well

Like what I should be doing w/ the abilities

[boreal wave]

fight spider-man in the backline

[toxic ermine]

spiderman just falls over and dies from nothing idk

[verbal forum]

whos the new hero in season 8

[placid escarp]

either the dinosaur or cyclops

[mortal lodge]

I played heal pool if wf is taken hr ysb

[placid escarp]

managing your cards is the best thing you can do really

[wispy eagle]

Hr ysb

[toxic ermine]

yeah but I feel like I should be using a mix of heal/damage buff but most of the time it just ends up being bridge spam

and I can't really tell if I'm doing something wrong or I just have randoms that don't really allow me to mix more

mostly bc I see my damage on gambit seems kinda low in comparison w/ other healers

[lilac radish]

sounds about right

it’s really dependent on your comp

and how good the other healer is

[boreal wave]

does the heal deck -- buff healing? i dont know this

[lilac radish]

I’m noticing I’m able to kill a lot of comps that hard counter Magik playing black cat and I love it

no support pool and Jeff has nothing on her

[toxic ermine]

it just gives yourself regen doesn't it?

[pearl summit]

Did i kill hero chat again

[crimson plume]

P sure that’s how it works

What? You aren’t even in the last 20 messages lol

[real star]

Yes Lucas

[woven robin]

@austere heron love Spider-Man, just can’t pull off the combos

[austere heron]

what do you got your sensitivity set to if you're on controller?

[placid escarp]

heal deck in general gives self regen while bridge boost buffs healing received

[pearl summit]

U da real yes

[woven robin]

Horizontal is 260 n vertical is 200

[woven robin]

Couple of other tweaks but yea

[real star]

I know

[pearl summit]

I guess bro

[austere heron]

that's good to start off, do you have auto swing and pull on different binds

[woven robin]

I can send pics hold up

[calm moth]

What ideas do u guys have for Nova as a character, mine’s kinda basic and a hybrid of like rogue and magik where his normal attacks are punches that shoot out energy blasts aswell, his secondary is a chargeable beam, he gets a indefinite flight that he can end by using a “dive” ability that homes in onto a specific target dealing high dmg and some aoe, he has a a speed boost he can on ground and aerial,and maybe a wormhole that gives him iframes and tps him a short distance like magik, idk what his ult would be

[hollow needle]

h-h-hi

[calm moth]

I sorta want more basic characters like release style its kinda annoying how complicated and overdesigned some recent kits are

[austere heron]

alright those settings are pretty good, any combos in specific you're struggling with?

[woven robin]

All of them

[calm moth]

I think he should be a duelist 100% despite the inflation but any role would kinda work if they mixed things up

[austere heron]

you know the basics of the sekkombo right?

[woven robin]

No

[austere heron]

cluster>pull>punch>cluster>uppercut

[trim temple]

Yeah the heal deck while active gives you self regen and sets up his card bounce and cleanse aoe. The damage deck gives him a damage boost and sets up his anti heal debuff and boop aoe. He doesn’t get a buff to how much healing he does or affect how much damage teammates do.

The card bounce however works like a Jeff bubble or Dagger light cape and effected teammates receive more healing for a short time

[woven robin]

Any other combos needed?

[vagrant pike]

Why is Thing locked into punching laterally when black panther's kick was made omnidirectional? Why can't Thing aim his haymaker up and down?

[modest glade]

Nah

[hollow needle]

oh okay bye

[modest glade]

Nah

[toxic ermine]

yeah I know but like
I don't know if I should be mainly using the heal deck then spamming bridge or if I'm doing something wrong

because a lot of times I can't really go into the damage deck for cc/heal debuff or someone dies from damage

and it just ends up feeling like I could be playing someone else whos better at heal spam atp

[lilac radish]

just do what you think is better in that situation - and generally it is usually the heal deck

[inland heart]

Playing Bucky on 500 sensitivity am I cooking

[toxic ermine]

and I'm presuming something has to be good w. gambit due to how often I see him banned on ranked anyway so 🤷

although I've only gotten back into playing after like a ~6 month break so idk

[modest glade]

Is this ab gambit I can give pretty good card advice

[toxic ermine]

yeah

[austere heron]

you already know the bread and butter right?

[visual verge]

I’d beat you in poker

[modest glade]

Ok so like u only use bridge boost if multiple teammates below half u kinda wanna play up front since u have 2 double dashes also ur m1s will mostly hit if ur up front u wanna use anti heal either when ur taking space or too start fights or to combo with ults and track ults so yk when to save cleanse for

[visual verge]

I’d actually annihilate you

[modest glade]

Do not spam bridge boost

It’s the worst thing u can do use it when multiple ppl half hp

[visual verge]

Yeah, you did, nice going

[modest glade]

But idea is if u take part in dmg too u get ult faster meaning u get ur win con more

[pearl summit]

it happens

[trim temple]

When I play him I mostly use the bridge boost and rarely anything else. I might use the anti heal to help secure a kill from time to time

[modest glade]

He’s nigh unkillable when brawl range to poke etc it’s just mostly ab card usage when and wheeee

[visual verge]

Why did Gambit have his healing nerfed

[austere heron]

DPS gambit needs to be stronger, this is DPS rivals

[modest glade]

Anti heal is very strong and u should avg 20 hits per 10

[visual verge]

Luna being top 5 dps in the game

[modest glade]

It’s still relative to all other main healers or higher maths wise

[trim temple]

To be honest if people are just falling over while you’re trying your best to heal them then that’s on them.

People don’t understand how to take cover and avoid damage in this game, they just eat everything right in the face and over rely on healers to keep them alive

[modest glade]

Nah physics students bad at gambling

[austere heron]

let's just remove tanks from the game and remove all supports healing abilities, this is DPS rivals

[austere arch]

lol it got so bad I just started finishing my placements and they put me in d2🥀 right back in hell

[visual verge]

Is Canvas down for you

[austere arch]

They made me dps one game I just locked Wanda and ruined a daredevil and caps day

[modest glade]

Lemme check

[woven robin]

Cluster cluster pull uppercut?

[modest glade]

Ye it’s down I was gon do some diff eq recap too

[trim temple]

DPS who don’t know how to run the 1’s will be so angry

So many DPS players are just damage farmers and have no idea how to actually kill things by themselves in neutral

[modest glade]

I don’t really take notes so I rely on canvas

[visual verge]

Me too, bro… you know why it’s down, right? A group hacked it and put up a ransom

[modest glade]

I just read lecture notes

[modest glade]

Yo wtf

[visual verge]

I can send you the ransom note if you want

[modest glade]

Sure

[austere heron]

cluster>get over here>uppercut>cluster/punch>cluster/punch (or overhead punch)

[toxic ermine]

yeah its just
I'm not entirely sure if gambit is still good since he seems fairly mediocre rn in the games I'm at in GM atm, but I keep seeing him banned so surely there's gotta be something up with it

I think his kit seems p strong but doing it in practice is really jank

[austere heron]

all my doom match hours would come in clutch🔥

[trim temple]

He really shouldn’t be a permaban. The only reason he is still is because pros ban him in organized play because in high skill lobbies with communication his ult is a fight win button.

But on ladder people don’t really get that kind of value because of how spastic the community is.

[lilac radish]

apart of it is definitely just PTSD from before the nerfs

another part of it is that it’s a dive meta and gambit is really, really strong with and against dive

[trim temple]

IMO invisible woman should be a permaban for a number of reasons. She slips through often though

[woven robin]

And ik what his gameplay is too, it’s just executing it properly

[lilac radish]

she slips through cause I always have one :/

oh wow my team is running cap Angela iron fist Magik, this comp clearly needs invis over wf

[trim temple]

That strange teamup should be reason enough to sequester her to the nowhere zone

[heavy portal]

What vanguard does the community consider the best and worst at the moment?

[wanton jewel]

Sigh

[lilac radish]

everytime I play strange I get identical finals to my dps even without the invis team up bro is actually a 675 hp dps

[hard forge]

Best would be Groot or Tankpool
Worst is Peni

[lilac radish]

Best is venom
worst is Peni

[toxic ermine]

So around grandmaster then he's just kind of a meh pick, doesn't really stand out unless its specific comp ect? He seems pretty fine imo from playing around as/with/against him

[wanton jewel]

P3hela was the one that did it

[austere heron]

the answer to that is just a lot of practice, it took me like 30 hours on spider-man before i felt at least decent on him

[lilac radish]

nah it’s venom; it’s a dive meta and he takes so many cooldowns and never dies

[modest glade]

I was running games down playing bp into thing peni Bucky

[trim temple]

If they know what they’re doing at all a Venom is the scariest tank to see right now

[heavy portal]

I hate deadpool as vanguard so much I find him so boring to play as vanguard
What are you even supposed to do

[wanton jewel]

Im not in the mood 😡

[woven robin]

I also just turned down the vertical sens and I feel a lot better

[hard forge]

I’d say Venom is 3rd, there’s a reason why people ban Tankpool and Groot are banned a lot more

[modest glade]

What happened lion

[edgy smelt]

fun fact of the day: a love triangle where everyone is straight is mathematically impossible

[wanton jewel]

This assignment has me in a bad way unc

[woven robin]

I wanna do qp with him but teammates can be toxic

[edgy smelt]

until we meet again

[slate cradle]

Nuh uh

[modest glade]

What do u gotta do

[wanton jewel]

Too much

[hard forge]

Jump on them, that’s what you do

[wanton jewel]

I left it too late

[modest glade]

Like what

[wanton jewel]

Sighhhh

[hard forge]

Deadpool is just not fun to go against, doesn’t matter the variation

[woven robin]

And I can do whatever with the combos, it doesn’t have to be a set one, right? Like the bnb or anything like that

[wanton jewel]

My assignment is due in 12 hours and this job is taking too long

[austere heron]

Just turn communications off lol, quick play is the only way you can learn characters but unfortunately some people treat it like their life depends on it

[wanton jewel]

Wait it just finished

[modest glade]

Bro its js engineering can’t be that long

[visual verge]

I think Lion did it

[austere heron]

Yes you definitely can, freestyling is honestly better then most of the combos

[wanton jewel]

Dont make me angry okay 😡😡

[heavy portal]

I hate Venom’s bonus health move so much

[modest glade]

Just plug in some equations w

[wanton jewel]

I am cooked bro i got no time for ransoming

[wanton jewel]

Son ragebaiting

[visual verge]

Are you also not able to access it

[heavy portal]

Yeah I do but that doesn’t refresh the move as vanguard does it? I also suffer a myriad of issues with the double jump

[wanton jewel]

Bro im not using canvas

[modest glade]

What’s ragebait

[visual verge]

Lucky

[woven robin]

And he’s usually better on convoys, right?

[wanton jewel]

No

No im not lucky

[woven robin]

So maybe for combos don’t use my Goh immediately? And save it?

[visual verge]

To provide context in case you don’t know what Canvas exactly is, America basically just got our whole school system hacked

[hard forge]

I’m not a Deadpool player, so I dunno nothin’ about that biggest bro

[austere heron]

Yeah i'd say so

[wanton jewel]

L for America I guess

I left an assignment wayyyy too late and now im suffering

[modest glade]

Some places in uk use it tbh both my six form and uni did

[visual verge]

I think Australia also uses it

[woven robin]

And I learned from my friend you can bind swing and amazing combo to one button for some kinda combo

[austere heron]

Definitely, the problem with using your GOH immediately is it's extremely predictable and makes it easier to get stunned out of it

[modest glade]

I js hope it comes back soon so I can cram

[wanton jewel]

Claude please save me 🙏🙏

Obiwan, you're my only hope ahh

[boreal wave]

american moment

[wanton jewel]

Lmerican

[woven robin]

Would you ever be down to play a couple games? Or practice range it?

[austere heron]

I don't play this game too frequently anymore but I'm down, you can send me username in dms and I'll add you

[violet steppe]

Just went 33/8/41 as White Fox

[visual verge]

Lion, PLEASE stop hacking the American school system. It’s honestly too much

[neon nebula]

[boreal wave]

i've seen enough, NERF SPIDERMAN

[austere heron]

I've seen enough, remove Spider-Mans web swinging and punching