hero-chat

[frank bison]

wolv players are psychopaths

[modest glade]

Tank players get so annoyed I was b hopping to spawn as soon as tracker told me they swapped

[rugged bone]

That’s why I’d never disable comms, some people just need a lil nudge in the right direction. Myself included :p

[frank bison]

wolverine players are psychopaths

[modest glade]

Hey hey nowadays I js play psy go star if ppl being annoying and phoenix if open or tank buster if tank decides they can be allowed to intervene

[rugged bone]

Tank buster? Thing?

[modest glade]

As if I’d play that role lol

[hollow needle]

yucky role

[wanton jewel]

Thats so untuff

Bro just floats around n sh 😭😭

[wanton jewel]

Dont disrespect the tanks 😡

[rugged bone]

What’s wrong with vanguard :(

[hollow needle]

what do you know about being tuff

[rugged bone]

I like running right into the enemy team

[hollow needle]

you disrespect supports all the time 😡

[left basalt]

When will peni and namor defeat ban allegation?

[wanton jewel]

I do not

[modest glade]

U do

[hollow needle]

yeah see

[brittle thorn]

Hey so thing can do like 500 dmg with his right click in Loki vs full roster

[manic owl]

sounds like we should buff angela

[frank bison]

people who insta swap to wolv need to be exterminated

[wanton jewel]

That guy is unreliable

[frank bison]

punisher bucky white fox invis thor mag oh my god

actual losers on this game

[hollow needle]

more reliable then you

[wanton jewel]

Most reliable person maybe ever btw

mag bubbles u

[modest glade]

?

[dapper vault]

how much longer does it take to level up after you get lord?

[hollow needle]

you unbinded that remember

@visual verge can I queue pc comp without you if your not gonna queue with me jeff think sticker

[wanton jewel]

Nope I just only put it people who deserve it

[modest glade]

Bros ab to be left on read

[wanton jewel]

On second thought, ur not bubbled anymore

[trim temple]

I'm kind of feeling Emma today, I've had some really good games using her

[hollow needle]

wouldn't be the first time

[visual verge]

I guess this is us breaking off our duoship

[hollow needle]

what 😭

[modest glade]

RIP

[chilly fiber]

whos on console

[hollow needle]

you're on your solo grind on an alt

I'm tryna grind main

😔

[wanton jewel]

p3hela loves smurfing on noobs pass it on

[hollow needle]

I just wanna queue on the main 😔

[warm island]

Help I made my pfp too small

[hollow needle]

@visual verge sigh I won't queue on the main then 6-7 more years on the bullying noobs for me

why didn't it ping

[wanton jewel]

Bully console noobs

[hollow needle]

I got to etern

again

[warm island]

Is my pfp that small nobody sees it or smt

[hollow needle]

its boring though

nothing new for the console side of my acc

[wanton jewel]

U tryna flex on me?? 😡

[hollow needle]

relax mini unc 😡

[delicate yoke]

Sometimes I wish I could drop this game

[hollow needle]

sigh its always me getting abandoned by a duo

@wanton jewel how do I change this

[brittle thorn]

Wdym

[wanton jewel]

Idk i never get abandoned

Its always me abandoning other people

Like when I left u on read an hour ago

[hollow needle]

I don't queue main on pc because I wait for my duo

[hollow needle]

😡

[polar badge]

i think loki sucks

[wanton jewel]

Watch ill do it again

Reply to me real quick

[hollow needle]

send a msg I don't feel like looking for you

I'm lazy

[upper cloud]

does anyone know why i can’t get the avengers gallery card in times square ? i legit sat in the red box space for 30 minutes and got nothing

[hollow needle]

I left lion on read

too easy

[modest glade]

No way he fell for this

[wanton jewel]

Nuh uh

[hollow needle]

it's lion what do you expect

[wanton jewel]

Didn't fall for it

[hollow needle]

is that why you got left on read

[modest glade]

Lion is a engineering student after all

[visual verge]

no, this is the end of our arc

[hollow needle]

why...

[wanton jewel]

Last msg is from u btw

Looks like u got left on read

[hollow needle]

I will prove it rn

[wanton jewel]

Okay

[torpid sky]

I found it so unfair that they make a whole season about the phoneix and knull and a whole event about the 2 just for them to nerf phoneix 3 or 4 times and not make knull a playable villian..

[modest glade]

Both of u lie tho could be photoshopped either way

[hollow needle]

nope

[wanton jewel]

No look again

[hollow needle]

i DID

[modest glade]

Make knull hitscan

[hollow needle]

and look

[wanton jewel]

fr?

[torpid sky]

He would 100% be a tank with a. Team up with vemon and hela

[trim temple]

Solo tank into triple support duo tank comp, that sounds like a good idea right?

Like you see that and think “oh wow the team with 3 dps is going to cook”, right?

No? I thought I was crazy, maybe I’m just smarter than my teammates after all

[wanton jewel]

Aunc u went too far 😡

This is why p3hela left u

[brittle thorn]

I think people don’t realize thing could do 500 dmg per haymaker in the Loki vs full roster

[modest glade]

No no no hitscan hybrid dps

[formal bay]

Why can’t I bind any of my heroes’ jump ability to the “X” button? Also why are half of my heroes missing their jump ability? Heroes I never play.

[hollow needle]

@visual verge come back I need this

[hollow needle]

what I do

[visual verge]

no, you broke up with me

[hollow needle]

WHAT

WHEN

[brittle thorn]

What the hell am I reading

[modest glade]

This is so tragic

[hollow needle]

is she not the one that broke up with me 😭

[modest glade]

It’s basically a k drama

[wanton jewel]

Fr im not involved btw

[modest glade]

Nah lowkey u broke it off

[hollow needle]

how 😭

[brittle thorn]

Yk thing can do 500 dmg against the beefed up Loki?

[wanton jewel]

If in doubt, blame star

[modest glade]

U started talking ab cheating on her

[hollow needle]

she does that all the time to me

[modest glade]

That’s cool

[modest glade]

Usually after u do it first

[hollow needle]

I'm the one tryna queue with her when we can

[modest glade]

Also u was gon q main without her

[hollow needle]

nuhuh

[hollow needle]

I asked if I could 🤔

[trim temple]

Instalock bp, this should go poorly

[modest glade]

I’m just commenting on what I’m seeing in this k drama episode

[hollow needle]

shes on her solo journey on an alt

[wanton jewel]

Aunc star deserved it for leaving me first

[modest glade]

That’s like saying I wanna play by myself

[wanton jewel]

@visual verge are u actually playing hela for once?

[modest glade]

Y don’t u join her

[hollow needle]

she doesn't let me

[modest glade]

Uh huh

[hollow needle]

😔

[visual verge]

let's go play main rn

[hollow needle]

surpsied cat gif

[wanton jewel]

U forgot to reply to me btw

[hollow needle]

are we back then

🥹

[wanton jewel]

Surpsied

[tribal forge]

Hey Shawty 😏

[hollow needle]

grossed out dog gif

[modest glade]

@hollow needle @visual verge @wanton jewel all u guys

[wanton jewel]

Im bored

[tribal forge]

?

[visual verge]

nah, pretty sure that's you

[hollow needle]

me and @visual verge back out thanks for the offer thats all lion

[modest glade]

That’s all u gng

[wanton jewel]

Nope im gonna sleep in the library

[torpid sky]

Grr no tank melee

[tribal forge]

What's goin on Shawty?

[modest glade]

Them 3 into u

[tribal forge]

😏

[torpid sky]

.

[visual verge]

stoppp, you're playing hard to get but everyone knows you're down bad

[wanton jewel]

He in the desert rn

[modest glade]

Is that a hint of projection I sense from u

[torpid sky]

Hey fellow hela player. Question have u ever played Phoenix and hela easer to get shots on😭

[tribal forge]

Lil Shawty 🌹

[visual verge]

Yeah, Hela's easier to hit shots on

[torpid sky]

So they nerfed phoneix damage health kit 3 times and only nerfed helas damage

[modest glade]

What does this mean

[wanton jewel]

Other way around for me

[wanton jewel]

Means ur a thirsty boy

😭😭

[modest glade]

I am no such thing

[wanton jewel]

I would play phoenix every game but it would be unfair for the enemies

[modest glade]

They both feel equal ngl it’s just fire rate difference but I click shoot with them so like

[light thistle]

son

[wanton jewel]

I would end up feeling bad

[visual verge]

Hela has significantly less in her kit + her ult is worse

[wanton jewel]

Gotta limit it yk

[modest glade]

Womp womp womp

[light thistle]

hela in big 2026 lmfao

[light thistle]

just play phoenix

[wanton jewel]

I just hit every shot yk

Its a cross i have to bear...

[hard forge]

Just for Phoenix to still be probably the best dps in the game lmao

They haven’t nerfed her enough

[wanton jewel]

Sometimes i cry for my enemies when I blink and see that I selected phoenix

[modest glade]

I mean Phoenix is 2.29885057 fire rate per second Hela is 2 which is a sizeable difference if ur hold shooting

[torpid sky]

..... SAY THAT AGAIN .🙂

Just bring back phoneixs melee sparks and ll be happy😔

[wanton jewel]

I do average high 40s on puni

Just a demon i guess sadly

[hard forge]

Joke ting

[modest glade]

If they did that they’d probably nerf her fall off back to where it was before remember they compensated fall off

When taking away her brawl tech

[modest glade]

Isn’t that avg

Punisher is just playing cod bro

[wanton jewel]

How is high 40s average 😭😭

[modest glade]

Idk I see punis in 40s a lot

[wanton jewel]

Maybe low 40s

[modest glade]

Nah like 45 range

[unique tide]

oh boy Emma is getting upcoming 3 more skins
so look like Emma swimsuit is ON THE TABLE 😂

[torpid sky]

Idc bring back my melee sparkz😡

[modest glade]

I mean most punis shoot tank can’t be that hard to aim at groot

[wanton jewel]

Well yea if im shooting a groot all game im getting like 60 😭

Lord punisher so tuff idc

[modest glade]

If u off angle just play hela bro

[wanton jewel]

Name one tuffer lord

[modest glade]

Psy

[wanton jewel]

Na

[torpid sky]

I found a lord Emma the most dangerous..

[modest glade]

Star lord

[wanton jewel]

I actually have psy lord which is weird bc I only have 4 lords

[wanton jewel]

No sl lord is not tuff

[torpid sky]

À lord flaming torch is better to me

[wanton jewel]

Okay maybe the only one

[modest glade]

Star lord is tuff gng

[wanton jewel]

The lord is not tuff

[modest glade]

It is

[wanton jewel]

Most the time the non lords are better

When u see a lord puni you know they're gonna be good

Same way when u see a champ bp u alr wanna surrender

[modest glade]

Ye lion that’s enough outta u

[wanton jewel]

Im so serious rn

Punisher lord is tuff asf

My Lords are hela psy deadpool puni

[modest glade]

Boutta go make a psy suggestion to double ult dmg

[delicate yoke]

Bring back Psy’s old shuriken recall damage

[pliant spear]

No.

[modest glade]

On dps it’s psy star I think I got one with phoenix too

[left canopy]

Punisher lord is either complete garbage or good

[modest glade]

As like a psy player that’s too much

[wanton jewel]

I have no phoenix lord

But im the tuffest phoenix ever

[pliant spear]

Non lord magiks are consistently the better performing ones

[modest glade]

I played a lot of her before permaban days

[agile cargo]

Oh no 💀

Isn't this just straight softcore

[unique tide]

can they finally fix emma hair or give her a good one man

emma new skins are not really exciting given how bad her base model design is

[agile cargo]

Nope, never fixing her hair

[unique tide]

Elsa has amazing pony tail
disco magik has amazing pony tail
phoenix both council and gala has amazing pony tail

[wanton jewel]

Only hero i was actually ever better at was hela

[trim temple]

Idk what it is but I get roughly the same SR for a win as I lose for a loss. It makes no sense. It’s not performance being an issue, I almost always have good stats. And if I don’t then the whole team didn’t and we just got collectively diffed

[unique tide]

like even Psylocke tennis pony tail one is way better than Emma

[wanton jewel]

Actually no my tankpool was disgusting

[modest glade]

.

[trim temple]

It’s got to be the tank tax messing me over

[agile cargo]

Idk how to play Deadpool, I only play simple characters :/

[modest glade]

Lion is a meta mancer

[wanton jewel]

I am

[unique tide]

dp is simple character

[wanton jewel]

My tdp was crazy tho

[hollow needle]

thats me for you relax

[agile cargo]

Idk he's got all those upgrades and stuff it's scary

[unique tide]

like alot of characters in this game has "overwhelm" kits but actually easy to play

[wanton jewel]

Sigh

[visual verge]

no, you just tell me you hate me and that you want to duo with other people

[wanton jewel]

Who invited these guys

[unique tide]

only few newer one has bloated kits and hard to play like black cat

[hollow needle]

I am loyal to you I've been yearning to play with you but you went on a self improvement journey

[agile cargo]

Rogue?

[modest glade]

Anyone was crazy with that hero bro

[visual verge]

@hollow needle also, our game might cancel, someone's on a toaster rn

[limpid knot]

How long does it take for you guys to get ult while playing the thing for me? It takes around a few minutes from 3-5 min. Do you guys have any tips how to push it to ult fast

[agile cargo]

She's a lot too

[hollow needle]

yeah

you like the disco magik skin right

[modest glade]

Do u guys not like chat in game

[visual verge]

yeah

[hollow needle]

I'll swap to it for you

[visual verge]

We're stuck in the loading screen because someone can't load in

[agile cargo]

Just hit multiple people at once

[wanton jewel]

I was the best there was

[unique tide]

rogue is on the hard side yes

[wanton jewel]

On console at least

[trim temple]

I’m checking my record and I get like 5 extra points every time I win as Emma, and I lose less when I lose too.

Is Emma just the SR value engine or something? Playing Magneto gets very mediocre points gained and you always lose about as many points as you would have won. Thor seems about the same

[modest glade]

Must be u

[unique tide]

cuz rogue do have some combo going on and you need to learn how to cycle her abilities too

[visual verge]

I'm pretty sure it's our Jeff

[hollow needle]

WOAH

[hollow needle]

THAT WAS A CLOSE GAME

[unique tide]

rogue is alot harder than DP without a doubt

[modest glade]

Gng it’s tankpool

[gaunt stirrup]

Have 1 disney loki skin code if anyone want

[modest glade]

Nah u

[wanton jewel]

Thats like saying gang its phoenix

[hollow needle]

leave my duo alone 😡

[wanton jewel]

My fault for being thanos on that particular hero

sigh

[visual verge]

Luna otp has been mean-spirited lately

[wanton jewel]

fr

[visual verge]

Why is that

[wanton jewel]

u good bro @

[modest glade]

?

[wanton jewel]

I cant at him

[hollow needle]

@

[wanton jewel]

Hes too scary

[modest glade]

I’m being my usual happy self

[unique tide]

you are imagining thing 😂

[wanton jewel]

When we duoed star was saying she had never seen a better tankpool

[trim temple]

I’m staring right at the numbers it’s a pattern

[wanton jewel]

pls confirm @hollow needle

[trim temple]

The MCU one?

[modest glade]

It’s tankpool bro

[torpid sky]

And most of them are easy to kill...

[hollow needle]

I was copying you

@modest glade

[lapis garden]

God I wish I could have the new Elsa Bloodstone skin….🫪

[hollow needle]

see I can

[modest glade]

What

[wanton jewel]

Wait so u think my tankpool is tuff?

[hollow needle]

I was proving to lion that you could be pinged

[wanton jewel]

Ty aunc

[modest glade]

He was just lying gng

[hollow needle]

mine is tuffer

[hollow needle]

true its lion

[wanton jewel]

U learned from me so nuh uh

Ur the student

[modest glade]

Tankpool someone with no thumbs no arms no legs no brain can drop 50 kills on him

[wanton jewel]

Lions got paws bro

Lock in

[modest glade]

Anyways

Imma sleep since I’m right

[unique tide]

she is perma in store so you can save up for it

[lapis garden]

Oh really? I thought they had all the maid skins as just limited

[modest mauve]

Elsa received a legendary before Widow

[light thistle]

good

widow sucks

[tough coral]

YEP

[empty cape]

word girl vs dog welder

who wins

[left basalt]

You know you are cooked when your dps are moonknight and squirrel girl against the enemy iron man + magik just because they saw one of the enemy tank whip out the thing

Where the F do this dps come from in grandmaster master rank????? Tthe best either can swap to is namor and if he is ban , then they cannot for the life of them pick something liked reed + punisher to counter swap matchup

It’s like they cannot aim at all , it makes the life of tank miserable when dps cannot counter pick other dps

[brave dove]

Reddit supports are going to be what kills this game. I promise you. I just had a game where an Invis went 1 AND 13.

And I GUAR-AN-TEE you, that people will STILL defend that. All these worthless support players do is sit in the back and hold one button. Unbelievable. And they're above approach and above criticism and think they're better than anyone else.

[signal echo]

I quit ranked cos ppl dk how to counter swap lol (game's more than a year old btw)

[whole geyser]

Back from my week long mute to say this game is hot flaming garbage

[wintry solstice]

Just watched a pro spidey video on YT. Bro did a displacment into his team after almost getting killed and on low health. Big brain plays its ridiculous

[unique tide]

not just a legendary but a goat one too, best in the game

[woeful shore]

lowkey I have the best idea for rivals comp, i call it the chronostorm, its a high steaks match that gives an extra 10 points to the winning team. the only difference in this match is 4 retired teamups make a return during this rush that are presented prebans

[brave dove]

Supports in Diamond shouldn't have even made it out of bronze ffs

[wanton jewel]

Dude stop hating on support players 😡

[signal echo]

I got it the very moment it came out I love Elsa

[left basalt]

Support have nothing on dps who are legit the most selfish beings you can encounter in this game 80% of the time

This mothe eeeef ( along with support sometimes) like to trash talk on tank for pushing or not retreating even so they will never swap to tank in order to show how to play it

At worst they will swap to third support when desperate but never tank even so triple tank is very effective against triple support

Their ego is the size of the freaking moon

[wanton jewel]

Tank isnt hard

[south drift]

its not all supports

only the girl supports, adam/tron/jeffs are always chill

[left basalt]

Literally the hardest and most miserable role in the game

I cannot take anybody seriously if they disagree with this considering it’s a well known fact

You are the one that has to push, you are the one that has to block, you are the one that has to peel

You are the least popular role out of all 3 roles untop of getting the least amount of points in freaking rank because Netease hate tanks

[wanton jewel]

Nobody gets the least amount of points. You just need to play better

dps is the hardest for sure

[south drift]

tanks are silent

[left basalt]

Sure buddy

[south drift]

i never see the tanks on my team in vc or typing after we lose

[wanton jewel]

Just the truth sorry pal

[south drift]

they just say gg and and go next game

[left basalt]

Your truth , here fixed it for you pal

[wanton jewel]

The objective truth

[left basalt]

Whatever helps you believe it, I will live you there regarding that “ objective truth” you imaginer, any way have a nice day

[wanton jewel]

lol. Good day to you too

[trim temple]

We suffer in silence

[austere arch]

there’s nothing to be said I tried to create space as a solo tank. Hopefully they drop some dopamine tanks so people can fill the role

[south drift]

ok i do have a lot of troll teammates that go like 4 dps 1 tank 1 support

[agile cargo]

actually, playing better can sometimes mean not doing a ton of damage, which gets you the points

[south drift]

rumor has it that devil dino is the next tank

[wanton jewel]

Well yes, but you can still get the most finals on tank pretty easily

[agile cargo]

but I love tanking

[south drift]

does ow have this ame problem with their tanks

[agile cargo]

you can get good finals, but most finals would mean your dps suck

[trim temple]

Tanks get the least points because the game doesn’t consider “damage blocked” a valid stat in the performance SR values.

Since they don’t really get much in the healing department (besides Peni), if the tank isn’t getting more kills and finals than their dps then they get the least points in the lobby.

[austere arch]

I can’t wait for rawr simulator

[left basalt]

Some people have the audacity of saying “ tank is not hard”… like dude nobody wants to be a tank for a good reason

People who play tank are flex that want to win and don’t fight dps slot like 2 derange homeless fighting over a dope

[south drift]

actually nvm, dva is apparantly broken so people actually want to play her

[trim temple]

If tank wasn’t hard then the dps and supports would actually want to flex to tank

[left basalt]

EXACTLY

[trim temple]

They always say “tanking is boring” and then play something like Cloak or Moon Knight instead

[south drift]

thing is a easy tank to flex to

[agile cargo]

honestly I don't blame them for not wanting to flex. tank is genuinely difficult

[south drift]

just run and spam the punch

[agile cargo]

not if you don't understand how to tank

[brave dove]

If you have a dps who is garbage, other roles can still get kills.

I had to get a 4k and a 5k back to back on Spider-man cause I had a teammate adamant on playing Widow.

I got like 6 kills as Rogue in a fight. You can play around a bad dps. 4 and recapped point as Thing.

You can't play around bad supports cause they're the ONLY ones responsible for keeping the team alive. And if they go 1 and 13, or instalock JEFF and sit in the back spraying and not helping. Or if they are a one button warrior like Rocket. Or If they throw/surrender. Or if they isolate themselves to get dove on. There's no amount of peels in the world that can help them, the enemy just takes the objective and it stays that way cause they force you to turn around for a single diver every second.

[austere arch]

She can exit her mech though, they did it with hulk idk why they couldn’t do it with Peni. She’s canon super athletic and super strong idk why they did that

[south drift]

i think hulk is a tank worth learning if you had to play it for fun, a good hulk is really annoying

[wanton jewel]

Na you can still get the most points just be better

Finish the kills, stay alive, block the damage etc

[agile cargo]

how are you gonna be a good hulk if you casually learn him to fill

[trim temple]

I’m surprised more DPS don’t want to flex to Tankpool, Thor, or Emma. All 3 play like chunky DPS

[south drift]

isnt she underage in rivals, they prob cant have you shooting peni beacuse age rating

[trim temple]

If you’re getting more kills and finals than the dps then the dps are not doing their job at all

And like I said, damage blocked is barely considered in the mvp or performance values

[wanton jewel]

No ur just playing well enough to rank up

Playing better than your dps means that you will rank up

[trim temple]

I can never tell if you’re just trolling or serious

[violet steppe]

Add Garfield to Rivals

[south drift]

i meant if you had to pick a tank to play full time to learn hulk would be a good choice

[agile cargo]

yeah hulk is good. complicated tho

[wanton jewel]

Hmm pretty serious

Mainly play tank myself actually

[brave dove]

And even if you're supports are objectively mindless and useless, this community will defend them because it's a support echochamber where we make excuses for people managing the do nothing on the easiest role

[south drift]

3rd support strike

[left basalt]

Eeeh, i praise hulk player more than the character skill sealing

Hulk is the worst tank in the game by a land mile as its super easy to make his life miserable

Namor/peni/wolv/emma/thing/thor/hela/thor/deadpool ( tank and dps )/ iron fist/punisher/jean/elsa/rogue/adam/bucky/sue

he is a giant hit box that hates poke abd CC which also screw his jump charge at the same time

[agile cargo]

honestly the support skill ceiling is pretty insane. I don't understand it myself. I used to main support, but I have no idea how good supports do it

[signal echo]

I flex off tanks as majority DPS player. I prefer not to play tank cos iq, which is arguably what you'd need most as a tank, doesn't translate well into rank pts. And I'd otherwise gain more rank up pts plainly from using my mechanical ability on DPS 👍 pokeslop ftw

[south drift]

if tank players ever went on strike, marvel rivals community would collapse

[brave dove]

Yeah exactly. Garbage like this. They go 1 and 13 but they're never to blame and above criticism or getting flamed for ruining the game for everyone else in every way.

[signal echo]

You should watch Xanthophobic or Coopertastic. They're amazing supports in the pro scene

[wanton jewel]

I saw a video saying tank players complain the most.
Now i see where it comes from oh my days 😭

If its really that bad just dont play it

[agile cargo]

that can be difficult if the majority of players want to play dps

[left basalt]

Not really

Support like Luna, Adam , ultron and mantis are the one with insane sealing because you genuinely need to be pin point accurate with your shots

In Adam/mantis/ultron case, you need to overcompensate low heal output by constantly pumping damage to make up for it, especially if you go 2 heals instead of 3 heal comp

[wanton jewel]

Na you can just do the same thing as them

Nobody is forcing you to play something you don't enjoy in a game

[agile cargo]

well thankfully I enjoy tank. but I do think dps are often very selfish

I don't want to be like that

[brave dove]

Supports complain so much that it literally shaped the meta for half the game's life cycle. Usually when tanks complain, it's because they have to deal with supports that can't enable them to do anything but be a target

[south drift]

just make tank/supports that are secretly dps chars to attract dps players to them

[agile cargo]

rivals isn't overwatch (kinda sadly)

[wanton jewel]

I mean yea but ur gonna lose games bc of bad tanks/dps/supports or even u have a bad game. Its just how it goes

[gentle forge]

I think it weird that ppl want strong tanks but when a tank is acc strong, they get permabanned 😂

[wanton jewel]

Tanks are really strong rn

[south drift]

who is the strongest tank

[signal echo]

Venom Groot prolly

[agile cargo]

lol I play neither of those

[wanton jewel]

Maybe cap broken ahh

Rogue actually

[south drift]

cap prob has the best tank ult besides groot

[wanton jewel]

Ye its rogue

[signal echo]

In pro top would be Venom Groot Cap, idk about ladder

[left basalt]

They still are, i will always respect à Luna player infinitely more than moonknight or squirel girl player

Take peni nest problem, it’s not hard for me to destroy the nest with venom but it’s not exactly easy to flank the nest since I need to get close enough for venom primary to reach it

By comparison, it’s orders of magnitude easier for me to flank nests with psylock or starlord because they have consistently fast mobility burst on top of having hitscan to hit it from a safe place

I usually ban peni because I don’t trust my dps teamate at all, not because peni is difficult to counter per say

Am stuck on tank or healer 99% of the time

[south drift]

i just watch rogue mvc3 combo my dps and im glad im not them

[signal echo]

A lot of tanks can't either, you're fine

[wanton jewel]

This chat just turned into tank players having a tantrum 😭

[agile cargo]

I see no tantrum

[south drift]

this not a tantrum

[signal echo]

Not a tank player

[south drift]

go to the support discord for that

[agile cargo]

there is a whole discord for supports???

[wanton jewel]

You guys just complaining for the last 20 minutes

[south drift]

we are discussing civally

like in a round table

[wanton jewel]

Tanks are boosted ggs

[agile cargo]

tbf you said tanks should get more kills than dps...

[wanton jewel]

If ur a good one ✌️

You CAN get more kills

Not should

[south drift]

ganggang, DESTROY this man!

[wanton jewel]

But if you can get more kills then you will rank up

[trim temple]

The tank shouldn’t be out dps’ing the dps is the thing. They’re bad dps if you’re the one killing everything

[agile cargo]

ye but then you'd need to compare a good tank with a good dps

but thats true, getting more kills you'll rank up

[wanton jewel]

Well if we were comparing the rank 1 dps to the rank 1 tank then maybe

But you can always do better than a random in ranked

[trim temple]

The point is the game shouldn’t look at that detail when applying SR.

Tanks taking and holding space, playing the obj, etc is completely ignored by the ranked system

[wanton jewel]

That way you will rank up

[agile cargo]

fax

[wanton jewel]

Where is the proof for this though

[trim temple]

The devs literally said it

[signal echo]

Tanks absolutely should, I'd take a tank that could finish off targets every time. The amount of times I see people not punish someone at low health and finishing them off AND they get to run off Scott free is appalling

[wanton jewel]

I routinely gain more than whoever im duoing with on tank

[agile cargo]

how would the system even recognize it though

[wanton jewel]

Do they not compare your stats versus other players in ur rank on the same hero?

Therefore it doesnt matter greatly

[sharp shale]

WHO WANNA JOIN MY SERVER?

[agile cargo]

yeah I NEED to get better at confirming kills. thats the next big hurdle for me.

[signal echo]

Same. Guilty. Still not a tank player tho

[sharp shale]

guys did guys see?

[wanton jewel]

Just hit ur shots on whatever hero ur playing and you will kill stuff

Not really much more too it

[hard forge]

Tanks should not get more kills than a dps

A tanks job is to create, capitalize, and take space

Dps’ job is to get kills

[south drift]

should they make it so you need a 60% wr to climb?

[wanton jewel]

I mean I guess you can secure more kills with correct positioning but at the same time you should be killing stuff

[agile cargo]

I've been practicing being more aggresive but staying in LOS with my healers (and always knowing where my backline is), and comming. I can do it a lot better now. But I've definitely noticed that I'm not confirming as many kills as I could be. and it'll hinder my progress soon if I keep playing ranked

[wanton jewel]

I am a tank player btw too

But only by necessity

[delicate yoke]

They should make it that you will need an above 50% winrate to climb because climbing in this game is too easy compared to other hero shooters

[south drift]

is rivals ranked that much easier than ow ranked

[agile cargo]

one thing that I should mention about tanks getting kills, is that dps can be punished a lot easier. tanks can take a much more aggressive position to confirm kills that a dps maybe couldn't

[south drift]

i never played ow ranked

[delicate yoke]

In OW you need to maintain an above 50% winrate in order to climb. In rivals you can get diamonds/gm with a sub 50% winrate

[signal echo]

Uh yeah, this game is NOT as mechanically demanding as ow is imma just say that. Rest is up to you

[left basalt]

If this is what you think complaining is, then am sort of curios of what your reaction would when you see actual complains

[south drift]

what does ow have that we dont tthat makes them more competitive

[wanton jewel]

I mean you are clearly complaining about how ur life is so much harder bc you play tank

[agile cargo]

thats actually wild

[wanton jewel]

if u hate it so much just play dps

[south drift]

i said this WASNT complaining

[wanton jewel]

I imagine they were replying to me

[left basalt]

We are not, thats what people are telling you, you are just kind of spilling out whatever interpretation you are seeing

[left basalt]

Wrong person mh bad, mean to reply to lion

[signal echo]

Liar

[south drift]

i think they just need to add a fun tank next

[river scaffold]

Tried to do an 18v18 match yesterday. I won, but I also remembered why I stopped playing that mode.

[agile cargo]

what would a fun tank mean

[south drift]

a fuun tank that dps want to pplay

[signal echo]

Plenty to choose from the lore. Devil dino seems to be a likely contender for the next hero

[wanton jewel]

Tank is so hard dude nobody knows how to play it. Everyone hates me bc I play tank etc etc

[river scaffold]

Devil Dino and Cyclops do seem to be the next likely heroes

[south drift]

support cyclops

[signal echo]

Doc Ock would go hard

[wanton jewel]

You cant do anything on dps if ur tanks are bad

[south drift]

healing beams

[agile cargo]

yesss as a tank

[hollow needle]

and now I won't play with her for a week

sigh

[south drift]

thats why i like ultron, i can do some healing but also target and pressure enemy supports

[agile cargo]

you can say this of every role man -_-

[signal echo]

I was gonna clown on you but I'd take anyth but another dps so healer cyclops doesn't seem too far fetch

[south drift]

if ultron can heal anyone can heal

support thanos

[wanton jewel]

He was talking about dps complaing about tanks not pushing

If my tanks arent walking i cant see anything to shoot

[agile cargo]

honestly I like what they did with deadpool, I feel like it made dps players less afraid to swap, because they already knew the kit

[wanton jewel]

Are we not playing qp w p3hela tomorrow?

[river scaffold]

Thanos is pretty bulky in size. He might lean more towards tank.

[signal echo]

I feel like he gonna be another high skill floor character with all the wall climbing and wtv the tentacles be doing

[hollow needle]

lion and you press RT down and shoot them please

[hollow needle]

we are

least I think

[left basalt]

I just hope it’s not a punishing tank

Why can’t we have a hitscan flank tank like psylock or starlord because?

Where is the mid long range projectile tank ala ultron or iron man?

Where is the auto turret tank that can automatically attack anyone close by like namor?

[dark lava]

also did the coolest thing ever on hulk:

i used my jump to knock a floating iron fist (he was healing) down to ko them

[agile cargo]

yeah... probably. I was thinking a fantastic style grab, but thats more tenacity

[wanton jewel]

Aunc i cant see them

[south drift]

devil dino could be a flank tank

you will not see him coming

[hollow needle]

get an angle 😡

[signal echo]

Oh god don't remind me of tenacity

[wanton jewel]

no i will play down main and shoot tanks 😡

[left basalt]

Facts are not complain dude… people already told you that

[wanton jewel]

Ur facts

[agile cargo]

wut

[hollow needle]

th-th-this is why you suck!

[south drift]

i play a lot of splatooon so when i see tenacity i think of the terrible ability from that game

[signal echo]

That's not cool, that's just evil which makes it cool ig

[wanton jewel]

Ye thats my sign to sleep

😭😭

[hollow needle]

wow I see how it is

its okay when you do it but not me

[wanton jewel]

I have never done this btw

[south drift]

i still have yet to try white fox

[hollow needle]

he's lying because he's a lion

[wanton jewel]

na im just a big cat

[left basalt]

And the facts share by most of the fandom including pro and non pro players unlike your facts, so I agree with you ironically on this one

[agile cargo]

I personally hate ironfist because sometimes I get a good one who destroys me as tank and my team doesn't know to shoot him yet

[wanton jewel]

The pro players say that dps is the most difficult role

[south drift]

remember when people thought fox primary was going to be broken because it bounced and tracked

[wanton jewel]

I agree with their facts

[hollow needle]

g-g-g-go to sleep we're done!

[signal echo]

Eh swap Emma/Thing blame DPS ez (you're gonna lose just go next)

[agile cargo]

I don't think I understand the bit

[wanton jewel]

w-w-we're through!!! I-i never want to speak to you again!! Hmphh!! 😡

[wanton jewel]

Ye me neither

[signal echo]

A slight overreaction on my part but she is still rlly strong

[hollow needle]

I'm leaving him on read

[wanton jewel]

Who

[hollow needle]

same

[south drift]

i feel liike it barely does anything

[warm jasper]

Hai

[wanton jewel]

Damn aunc didnt fall for it

[signal echo]

Yeah, direct shots are still the way to go. But the bounce is still rlly good at disabling pre-dive

[left basalt]

And that claim got completely obliterated since… season zero because it’s not difficult to see which role get insta locked and which role is the least played

And the reason is simple really, if it was supposedly the hardest like you preach then it would be the reverse of what you are saying about dps being supposedly the hardest Lmo

If you add role queue, i guarantee you that one role will take significantly longer waiting time than the other 2 roles it’s not healer or tank

[fervent coyote]

Because carry dps is easily the hardest role

You being the win con is harder than any other role in the game

[wanton jewel]

Hmm maybe dps has the most players... because it has the most heros. Shocking stuff

TrqstMe, the pro tank literally said like last season that dps is the hardest

Then again it seems you cannot be reasoned with

because you only deal in ur own "facts'

[wanton jewel]

Idk about win con. Support is the win con. But getting picks, creating kills, etc. makes dps the hardest

[visual verge]

Tanks 100% complain the most (I can say this, I play tank)

[fervent coyote]

In ignite the main dps is getting the perma ultron drone or perma mantis pocket, arguably the strongest comp rn essentially making the main dps the win con. We’ve seen the meta throughout this game be which better pocketed thanos dps can win us the game, like the torch meta or most recently Elsa

[agile cargo]

b-b-b-but I like logical statements! 😖

[wanton jewel]

I mean ur talking about the broken dps heros. The same way the better gambit ult used to and still to an extent does, win an entire fight

[wanton jewel]

Can I also say this bc I play tank

[hollow needle]

ofc duo

[visual verge]

"We suffer in silence, underappreciated, no one cares about us, thankless job"

like, pls, bro 😭

[wanton jewel]

Forgot to mention we have to peel, take space, protect our backline etc etc

[fervent coyote]

Even with gambit right now it’s played primarily either with rogue or star (ult being the win con)

[agile cargo]

I t-t-think I like doing this... 😵‍💫

[wanton jewel]

lists stuff that every role has to do

[visual verge]

We have to do SO MUCH, and it doesn't even show in the scoreboard...

[wanton jewel]

Sigh
And we gain less points too bc of it

[fervent coyote]

Support is hard tho

[wanton jewel]

😿

[delicate yoke]

I can understand why tanks complain considering how rage inducing this game can be

[visual verge]

It's rage-inducing for everyone

[south drift]

tank players are the living embodiment of the meme of the army guy over the sleeping kid's bed stopping bombs and knives and grenades from falling on them

[visual verge]

@wanton jewel tank players be like:

[wanton jewel]

I mean ye
But what about ur other support not healing you
Ur dps killing nothing when you set them up
Ur tanks taking 0 space
Its just as annoying for everyone

[agile cargo]

supports complain a lot too. I think dps don't because both the tanks and supports would dogpile them and tell them to get more kills

[wanton jewel]

They are the single mothers of marvel rivals

[hollow needle]

h-h-h-h--hi

[wanton jewel]

Yo dps why arent u killing 6 every fight

[fervent coyote]

I swear bad tanks are worse than bad dps

[wanton jewel]

😡

[visual verge]

Support complain when stuff annoys them, but I just find it funny how tanks are like "we're actually so underappreciated and we have to do so much"

[hollow needle]

I didn't want a hi from you guys anyways

[fervent coyote]

Tanks that can’t do anything unless you get an early entry pick every fight pmo

[hollow needle]

HMPH!

[wanton jewel]

Then u play tank and realise its just the same as every other role

[visual verge]

Dive tanks can do stuff

[wanton jewel]

Hi star-chan

[fervent coyote]

Yea venom especially love seeing that hero

[left basalt]

Shocking stuff, having the most characters is only half of the issue, dps are significantly less reliant on teammate compared to tanks, they can play selfishly shocking stuff I know right?

The only tank that come close to that are captain kind of freedom are captain America ( tickle monster ) and and angela

They are the one that push for the team and eat danage for them while trying to not die

They are the one affected the most by CC in general

[hollow needle]

I wanted her to say hi

[fervent coyote]

I hate that people think mag is still the go to pick

[agile cargo]

learning how to tank helps me know how to play the other roles tbh

[wicked wharf]

hello

[wanton jewel]

Lol

[fervent coyote]

Perma shooting tanks on the frontline as mag yelling “why are my dps not killing anything”

[left basalt]

How does that work?

[wanton jewel]

but i did tho

Everyone is reliant on everyone just depends more specifically on the comp

[polar badge]

Ngl playing in high elo with bad aim is so weird cause I see these hela and punisher just hit every shot 😭

[visual verge]

My cat is peacefully sleeping in my arms

[hollow needle]

you aren't p3hela 😡

[wanton jewel]

In dive comps, heros tend to be more self reliant in terms of sustain, but require more coordination to secure picks

In brawl comps, sustain is most important, and arguably requires the most coordination of any team comp

Etc etc
We hate pokeslop tho

[visual verge]

hi

[visual verge]

I love poke

[hollow needle]

a-a-are we back together

[wanton jewel]

Pokeslop bad 😡
(Loves poke too)

[visual verge]

idk... I guess for now...

[fervent coyote]

You mean we hate dd slop

[hollow needle]

omg...best day of my life again

[wanton jewel]

What if it was brawlslop, pokeslop, AND diveslop

[visual verge]

after you betrayed me

[wanton jewel]

Would it get worse if I said I didnt like you

Just trying to maintain a balance here

[visual verge]

"would it get worse if I told you your grandma died"

[wanton jewel]

True
Lion saying he doesnt like you IS that serious

[visual verge]

It is

[agile cargo]

because once I learn how to enable my team and disable the other team, and be agressive and push, you can do the same thing with the other roles. a starloard could control highground and a magik could help the team push by controlling the positioning of the backline. a c&d can use her anti-heal to help the team be agressive, and she can use tyrone to help kill a dive. its really all the same thing, but tanks just have more health to be the anchor

[wanton jewel]

Thanks goat

[hollow needle]

I DIDN'T BETRAY YOU

[wanton jewel]

She did p3hela

[hollow needle]

I love p3hela

[wanton jewel]

It wasnt just a betrayal of trust, it was on a deeper level

[hollow needle]

my favorite hela larper

[wanton jewel]

Hey dude! Thats not funny 😡

[hollow needle]

thats why you got left on read

[wanton jewel]

Huh?

[hollow needle]

you got left on read in dms

[wanton jewel]

Did not

[hollow needle]

you did

[wanton jewel]

Nuh uh

[hollow needle]

where did everyone else go

[wanton jewel]

I dk i was in the middle of leaving u on read

[lucid axle]

Worse series of messages oat

[wanton jewel]

Spiderman player btw 😡

[hollow needle]

you got left on read btw

[lucid axle]

Loud and proud

[wanton jewel]

y-you need to leave!

[lucid axle]

Lion soundboard

[wanton jewel]

rawrrrrrr

[hot solar]

Painful read

[wanton jewel]

Only the usual ted

[lucid axle]

Tom and Jerry lion roar

[hollow needle]

Idk this lion guy btw

[lucid axle]

Those who know 💀

[wanton jewel]

Yh bro get out

[lucid axle]

Sorry

[wanton jewel]

Keep my windows clean for me tho!!

[lucid axle]

Yo

[wanton jewel]

Those who know 💀

[lucid axle]

I'm still mad at how lame that was

[wanton jewel]

It was not lame tho

[lucid axle]

It was so lame I already forgot what it was

[wanton jewel]

Probably better that way...

[hollow needle]

I slide for @visual verge and only her btw

[waxen cove]

How do I play as Loki in the new mode?

[wanton jewel]

I slide for salted caramel ice cream and chocolate fudge cake

[hollow needle]

if you make sure me and p3hela stay duo'd I'll get you some

[wanton jewel]

I can get my own, thank you 😡

Dont need a sugar jellyfish

😡

[hollow needle]

please lion only you can help me

[wanton jewel]

Star wars ahh

[hollow needle]

true

[wanton jewel]

Ill see what I can do

[hollow needle]

well that was easy

[wanton jewel]

No promises aunc

[hollow needle]

I'll become a lion supporter if you do

[lucid axle]

p3 hela listens to whatever I say

[lucid axle]

stop with the tomatoes

[north peak]

when will jean get taken out back and shot 🤞

[waxen cove]

Bro is this Loki mode is unbalanced asf? Lmao

[wanton jewel]

ajpoop2

[lucid axle]

cutenerdboy67

[summer badger]

Who's the best hero in zombie mode

[left canopy]

Moonknight by far; then sg 2nd

[lapis remnant]

Jeff's 3rd I think, Blade/Thor 4th and Punisher last.

[left canopy]

Jeff is not 3rd; leaderboards say blade and thor are 3rd and 4th
Jeff is probably 5th

[lapis remnant]

wait like solo or group?

[left canopy]

Both

[crimson quail]

Best hero to main dps in this meta ?

[left canopy]

The one ur good at

[crimson quail]

I am good at daredevil bucky and punisher

[left canopy]

Daredevil and punisher then

[crimson quail]

Man i find daredevil nerfed

His damage got way less

[left canopy]

He’s still very meta; especially in multi dive; tbh he will almost definitely be nerfed again cause of how high his winrate and banrate is rn

60% winrate dd has in celestial+ and like 28% ban rate or 25% last I checked

[crimson quail]

In every game i find my teammates with anti dive comp

I have 80 win rate with him

[polar badge]

Since people don’t understand it I’ll explain it you use support ults to counter a tank or dps ult the next thing that is likely is that enemy supports will match your ult even if they didn’t need to which will allow your own dps/tank to ult for free

[mystic pier]

Double support ult ftw

[left canopy]

Being able to kite and save a support ult is game winning tho

Or waiting a few seconds before matching so urs end 2nd

[polar badge]

That’s why we don’t match defensive invis ults

Because matching a defensive invis ult doesn’t counter anything it just lets your team not die for a few seconds

[polar badge]

I’ve had people complain about Jeff ult being ulted during support ults but they don’t understand that it’s the best time since your other support won’t die and you won’t die in ult(excluding 1 tap counters)

[hard forge]

What rank are you

[polar badge]

C1

[hard forge]

I see

[mystic pier]

Iron 3

[polar badge]

They need to add more ranks tbh, remove chrono shield and make you win and lose the same regardless of rank

[mystic pier]

I say we need to add more Invis and Psylocke skins to save this dead game. That will help

[polar badge]

There’s only like 4 ranks in the game since anything below diamond any real human can get out of

[hard forge]

Might be onto something

[polar badge]

Gimme black cat skins

Saw my first champ black cat earlier

[mystic pier]

Did you smell their stench?

[polar badge]

They lord farmed it they weren’t good

I’m better than them

[mystic pier]

Oof

[polar badge]

They didn’t even animation cancel

They just did whip strikes

That’s like playing playing and only swinging sword

[torn forum]

Which is better? Emma’s black queen of the marauders skin? Or her recent new Gala Glam skin?

[hard forge]

Personal preference

I’d say marauders by far though, personally

[torn forum]

All I needed to hear, using that over gala

What about for Pheonix though? Gala or Teacher fit?

[mystic pier]

teacher fit?

[hard forge]

I’d say Seat of Spring is better

But they’re honestly tied, both are amazing skins

[torn forum]

Mmmm

[mystic pier]

ohhh phoenix. my drunk self thought it was still emma talk. i was like didnt know emma got a teacher skin lol

[violet steppe]

Should I just get the Thieves Guildmaster skin or wait until I can afford the bundle?

[polar badge]

Loki is a bad support

[solemn root]

So we can all agree the person above me has no game knowledge right

[covert socket]

They need to make it to where you can can’t get to diamond on negative winrate.

That would fix it.

[summer badger]

No he's like b tier

[polar badge]

Exactly he’s bad

[summer badger]

Ultron is worse

[polar badge]

Only good in triple or with gambit

[polar badge]

Ultron… the character everyone is running in triple cause he’s good?

[summer badger]

Mantis adam better

[polar badge]

Mantis Adam isn’t but mantis is a better triple option

best triple is mantis, invis and someone else can’t remember who

[polar badge]

I mean chrono shield is the actual stupidest thing ever

[covert socket]

You can pay to win to gold btw.

[polar badge]

I could play blind folded for gold

[solemn root]

#1500385542175588372 thoughts?

[covert socket]

Ik but a bronze player can do that.

[tacit trail]

Why do they always ban my girl peni

[covert socket]

Dude, gold takes 1-2 hours minimum for me.

[polar badge]

Cause diamond is a joke

[hard forge]

Looks good

[wooden iris]

sum1 should slide endgame cap

[solemn root]

:3
-# but no like…

[summer badger]

Punisher shotgun needs nerf it one shots within 5 meters wtf

[hard forge]

Fair and balanced

[grand ingot]

can you only bunnyhop dd's latch on flat ground?

[spring cliff]

DIAMOND 💎 AND SNOW ❄️ 💅

[violet adder]

2 taps tanks

[gentle forge]

Guys is it time to learn white fox as a tank player

[gentle forge]

Never forget pre nuke hawk. That dude was sdia spelled backwards

[violet adder]

ONG!

I was fearing for my life on emma

[gentle forge]

Thank god hawk got nuked. I wonder who is next on the chopping block

[violet adder]

punisher shotgun

that needs to be nuked

[gentle forge]

Nuke phoenix while we at it

[violet adder]

my queen..but nerf that stun

[gentle forge]

Idk why all the hitscans have a stun and a get out of jail card ability

[violet adder]

zhiyong signature move

[placid escarp]

lorded deadpool

[gentle forge]

Im captain on tankpool rn. I wanna at least get him to centurion. The ko prompt looks so cool

[dark lava]

…does luna even have fall off

[wintry dagger]

Black Cat seriously needs a nerf

[spring cliff]

What’s the best punisher build for blood event?

[loud imp]

Will it be cool if they added a new black panther

[robust mango]

is widow really that bad

[agile cargo]

There are simply many better heroes with fuller kits

[woeful shore]

i ran into a widow in my comp match that has lord from throwing... their winrate is so negative that they play 15% into widows online stats

[robust mango]

i like sniping but hawkeye just doesn’t feel right

i might try picking up hela

[strong raptor]

At least she's fun

[dark lava]

try luna

[tall nest]

Luna is legit strong. Yesterday I was so angry with my matches in ranked that I took it out on people in quickplay

[summer badger]

Use luna as dps better than hela

[native zodiac]

Can we get invis im bored of seeing her on both sides of every single game and shes never banned

[spring cliff]

For the blood hunt event what’s better to point? Precision or critical damage?

[tall basin]

idk where to post so here the thor nvidia skin. i dont need it: prtwrwxfn7q

[native zodiac]

gut*

[south drift]

lord of throwing

[oblique oxide]

I just ran into the most boosted support I've lain my eyes upon

Like the person is on rocket and is somehow missing their healing orbs, just full on bouncing them into the floor directly in front of them when both their tanks are half hp in front of them

[polar badge]

Not really

[strong raptor]

Can VC not be absolutely useless in this game?

[hard forge]

It’s insanely useful

[oblique shuttle]

Yall do we think widow gets anything nxt season? Shes had nothing since November surely she gets something right?

[hard forge]

No

[strong raptor]

Not for me. I can't hear a single thing anyone's saying because of background stuff, meanwhile the match goes insanely quick to the point I can't register what I'm meant to comm

[hard forge]

Turn your in-game general volume down and keep your vc volume up.

You’re using your mic?

[strong raptor]

The PS5 controller, yes. I didn't actually use it in the match tho

[hard forge]

Unless people are just actually screaming into the mic the whole time

[strong raptor]

Also its not game noise, its outside noise

[hard forge]

If you didn’t use your mic in the game, you’re not really comming anything💔

[strong raptor]

Because I don't know what to comm, everything is so fast

[twilit acorn]

Any thor mains here? I need some tips, i just picked him up and he is pretty fun mainly when u keep kidnapping them

[hard forge]

All you really need to comm is when you’re diving/on supports and who to focus when somebody is low or overextended

When you’re ulting too

[strong raptor]

I've only used VC once and it was for telling our Adam that he sucked for ulting in the middle of the fight.

[hard forge]

Who has ults on the other team as well, very good comm

[strong raptor]

I would say I don't know that, but I guess if you die you see it

[agile cargo]

You can keep track of it based on how long it's been since you've seen the ult

[oblique oxide]

You can just ult track by estimating when the enemy will have their ults based on past experiences with that hero and remind your teammates to watch out for specific ults

[strong raptor]

But different characters have different ult charge and how they're doing tho, I really don't get it.

[agile cargo]

Yeah that just takes time to figure out how long it takes

[hard forge]

Basically, when your supports/dps’/tanks have their ultimates, the enemy team will most likely have theirs as well.

You can track it with time as well.

[strong raptor]

I prob can't, too much stuff to worry about already.

[oblique oxide]

Assume most characters are getting their ults around the same time unless its a character infamous for charging ult slowly or quickly

[hard forge]

It can also depend on the character, because many of them get their ults really fast

[agile cargo]

It's extremely helpful once you figure it out :)

[hard forge]

It kinda just comes with playing the game, unconscious learning if you will.

[strong raptor]

I don't even wanna play comp because I'm -13/100

I don't wanna derank

[oblique oxide]

Assume MK always has his ult and assume any Luna is missing 20% ult charge still if your supports already have defensive ults

[hard forge]

You got like 2 weeks before season reset, grind as much as you can

[strong raptor]

I guarantee if I play I'll lose

[agile cargo]

That's ok!

[hard forge]

Such an unfortunate truth😭💔

[agile cargo]

Nothing wrong with deranking

[strong raptor]

Not really, it means I'm further away from where I wanna be

[hard forge]

Luna ult charge req is crazy man

[strong raptor]

I don't learn when I lose, so I shouldn't lose

[agile cargo]

The more you lose the more you learn

[hard forge]

You learn more when you lose

[strong raptor]

Whenever I lose the game I haven't learned anything besides "wow this game is awful"

[hard forge]

When you ask for a coach for example, why would you send them only games you’ve won instead of the losses

[agile cargo]

Usually a loss is in some way your fault, and once you learn your bad habits, you'll start ranking up

[oblique oxide]

Theirs always something you're at fault for regardless if you win or lose the game

[strong raptor]

I don't even know what the bad habits are besides "Sometimes I spam my shots"

[oblique oxide]

Always something you could have done better

[hard forge]

Because you don’t understand what you’re doing wrong

Even if I were to lose and have 30k damage with 40 finals while my team is negative, I could still be an issue

[tawdry dagger]

who u play

[agile cargo]

That's where a coach can help!

[strong raptor]

To be fair if I'm 30k damage and 40 finals I'm not swapping to help nobody, especially if they aren't going to ask for it.

[hard forge]

Stats don’t tell you everything, gotta rewatch your own games back

[strong raptor]

They don't exist lol

[strong raptor]

Like Phoenix and Magik.

[agile cargo]

#pathfinder-plaza

[oblique oxide]

If you're a lower rank you probably don't even need a coach, just get like a tank player to vod review you

[strong raptor]

Tried it.

[oblique oxide]

Like a celestial tank player

[hard forge]

I promise you, literally just play Magik and you’ll rank up out of gold pretty easily

[strong raptor]

Queuing into comp now

[hard forge]

If you play her correctly, that is

[agile cargo]

Dude a rank 50 strange vod reviewed my gameplay and it helped so much

[strong raptor]

I mean the only thing I can't do is kill a support ult

No bans, great. I hate silvers

[hard forge]

You as Magik can kill through most support ults

[strong raptor]

Combo is too hard I swear. I can't even practice it.

[hard forge]

Especially if you have Rocket amp

[hard forge]

I need a Psy pathfinder to review my stuff

I’ve been so stuck on her lately I swear

[agile cargo]

He wasn't even a Pathfinder lol he was a random guy I met in lfg

[hard forge]

Oh, goated pull then

[agile cargo]

extremely goated pull. I mentioned to him that some of the Pathfinders said I shouldn't be peeling much as strange and he just laughed and said the Pathfinders are gm players who think they know better. But overall I think the Pathfinders are helpful

[strong raptor]

I hate DD

[agile cargo]

Real

[near crow]

Played scarlet witch and it took me half a match to fully understand her kit.

Ive played 10 matches with black cat and im still unsure what half of her abilities are. What is this game bro

[agile cargo]

It's a complicated game

[near crow]

Nah why are the characters complicated.

[agile cargo]

Idk they ran out of basic ideas

[near crow]

I looked up a wiki cuz i was curious if deadpool has falloff on his guns? I was then given a TEN PAGE DOCUMENT on which i discovered there are 6 different versions that ALL WORK DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS IF DAMAGE FALLOFF

[agile cargo]

Peak

[strong raptor]

Okay, 18/2/0

[hard forge]

I’m also part of the bunch that thinks most tanks shouldn’t be peeling, especially in solo tank. In double, some of them probably can, but the whole thing is just really dependent.

I believe that the tanks should always be focusing on the frontline and looking to get more space

Peeling when they can is of course great, but I believe peeling to be a dps’ job

[eternal linden]

[flat narwhal]

Ive never seen this one lol

[eternal linden]

It’s the peak

[strong raptor]

We win. 23/2/1

[agile cargo]

So, obviously solo tanking is different. I definitely do my best to let my backline handle it, but if a diver is simply murdering your backline it doesn't matter if you're not supposed to peel. If that's what it takes to win, then you peel.

[near crow]

And then im like "man i wanan play my favorite characters, like cap america, spiderman, or the hulk"

And im told "nah, thise are bad to start with. Play squirrel girl or cloak and dagger"

Bro WHO?

[agile cargo]

Hulk is good. Just not easy

[strong raptor]

I don't think I did well as Magik, but I did decently

[near crow]

Started off playing spidey anyway and hes hard but i at least did 8-7 on my first match

[agile cargo]

W nice job!

[strong raptor]

8 finals tho, that's prob bad

[agile cargo]

That's actually really good!

[near crow]

Still dont understand why pulling people works and sometimes it pulls you to them tho

[agile cargo]

But did you win?

[strong raptor]

I mean yes.

[agile cargo]

Yes, so good job.

Let yourself enjoy the wins, learn from your losses

[strong raptor]

I saw a blade was low health so I dashed over and killed him

That was my smartest play prob

[hard forge]

If there’s a solo tank, peeling would just result in losing space. Also, there’s either 3 supports or 3 dps’, and if the support are getting ran through with 2 dps’ and 3 of them to pocket eachother, that’s an issue for them icl. 💔

If it’s 2/2/2, I do agree that a tank should of course peel whenever the supports are getting dove

[near crow]

They got blade up in this? Oh hell yeah

[agile cargo]

If it's gold rank as I was back then and a BP is obliterating your 3 dps then you might have to peel

[strong raptor]

If I see BP in my game I just give up ngl

[hard forge]

I’d do what I can for sure, but atp I think it might just be chalked😭

Such little team coordination

[agile cargo]

Even so, you can usually shoot backwards while holding front line

[lapis remnant]

I just go Hulk or White Fox and Bully him.

[oblique oxide]

Are their any Hulk pathfinders of a high rank

[agile cargo]

In that rank, the other team doesn't know how to use the space you give, so even though your dps can't do anything about a BP, neither can they capitalize on it, so once you kill it you're up one and you can walk

[strong raptor]

I tried to kill Luna ult but she outhealed my Magik ult

[agile cargo]

Yeah that one you might need to just wait out

You can kill through invis ult though

[strong raptor]

I remember its like charge slash, dash, and then like melee slash or somth

[hard forge]

Unless you got the Rocket amp, killing Luna will be hard (in my experience atleast)

[agile cargo]

Idk magik's combos

[lapis remnant]

I normally just wait out most defensive ults.

[strong raptor]

Also if I see Jeff swallow my team, I'm just gonna try and escape while I can, sorry guys

[hard forge]

Full charged slash and dash is all you need

You have to be pretty close though

[strong raptor]

Bc the slash has falloff I assume

[hard forge]

On Magik?

[strong raptor]

On any character lol

Besides I guess the no aims

[agile cargo]

If you can kill Jeff before he escapes DO IT

[strong raptor]

I can't he keeps healing (I feel like I could with ult but otherwise no

[hard forge]

No, because they’ll just out heal the damage pretty fast, so you’ll have to full charge slash and dash simultaneously

[agile cargo]

If you have a teammate also attacking him it's possible

[hard forge]

On most melee you can kill through Jeff ult

So do that if you can

[verbal zealot]

Man Guangguang needa start returning skins I need to get 7,190 units/Lattice to get all my grailed/favorite costumes. Loki and psylocke’s summer costumes, S1 Loki BP costume and Lady Loki😉

[strong raptor]

I dunno, Magik's attacks are slow with insane fall off.

[hard forge]

No real point in running anyway, because if your entire team gets swallowed, you’re gonna get fried by the enemy team

[strong raptor]

Depends where you are compared to them.

[agile cargo]

Honestly it depends on how much of your team gets swallowed

[strong raptor]

3-4 people on average

[hard forge]

Portal > Whirlwind > dash > m1 (standard magik combo) > slash > m1 is what works for me

[agile cargo]

Then if they die you lose the fight anyway, so risk your life to try to save them

[hard forge]

However, it depends where you are when the Jeff ults

If you’re right in his swallow radius, killing him is a lot easier

[agile cargo]

Yeah as long as you're next to him

[hard forge]

If you’re close, no harm in trying to kill the Jeff

If you’re far, then yeah just run

[agile cargo]

In silver people don't know how to avoid Jeff ult so that's why there are so many getting swallowed

[hard forge]

Them bum characters be running lobbies in lower rank

[agile cargo]

I personally hate Jeff because I've had a teammate Jeff throw my game sometimes with his ult

[trim temple]

I mean I just watched a Jeff get a triple eat in pro play

[strong raptor]

I'm in QP for some reason so I guess I'll play a character I never have, AKA invis

[hard forge]

99% of the Jeff players are just unbearable

[agile cargo]

Nah he's good but if you get a thrower it's so tilting

[trim temple]

Invis is a pretty all around powerful support to know how to play. I wish people would default to her over cloak and dagger

[hard forge]

I’ve had max ~15 good Jeff players in all of my 650 hours in this game

[agile cargo]

I'd rather fight a 4 v 6 than get swallowed and spit out way behind the point by my own Jeff

[strong raptor]

I dunno she feels sorta bad for me

[hard forge]

How so

[trim temple]

practice with her until it flows, she's basically a swiss army knife that can do a little bit of everything

[strong raptor]

Well I just died twice in a row to Captain America

[agile cargo]

Stay near your team

And you can use your self shield

[glass seal]

Iv seen like 1~2 Jeff players who know how to survive when I dive them as spooderman

[trim temple]

Cap is also hindered by her CC, she has a lot of slow in her kit and that's one thing that messes with Cap's playstyle

[hard forge]

Well, that’s a tank. Put your self shield up, push him away, go near your team & 2nd support.

If you’re still dying, your team and positioning could use work

[agile cargo]

They're in silver, best they can do is stay near their team and pray

[hard forge]

Jeff players will look you in the eye and tell you he is good as a 2nd support against a multi dive comp

[trim temple]

I bet a competent Cap is a nightmare in Silver

[agile cargo]

Any dive gets way too much value in bronze/silver

[strong raptor]

Nah I'm gold lol

[agile cargo]

/gold

[strong raptor]

I don't even know what half the buttons do (that's why I don't play DD)

8k heals in like 6 minutes

[agile cargo]

Her vortex prevents Cap's movement abilities (I think)

[civic wren]

Kneel before the true sea king Jeffrey Jefferson

[hard forge]

Well, you are gold lol

You’re still in the learning stage

Gotta get comfortable

[strong raptor]

Fair I've only been playing comp for like 3.5 months

[hard forge]

But I don’t play controller, so idk nothin’ about how hard that is

[agile cargo]

I almost never play comp😭

[strong raptor]

I just felt a giant wave of sadmess

[civic wren]

[strong raptor]

I want those diamond rewards

[civic wren]

Do not be sad child, for you are all equal in my eyes (I'm gonna eat you all in my ult)

I'M FEELING A BIT PECKISH

[hard forge]

Why

[strong raptor]

This is why I refuse to swap to healer

[agile cargo]

Yeah unfortunately I'm gonna be gone for the next couple weeks so I don't think I'll get diamond

[civic wren]

Why?

[civic wren]

Qp demon most likely

[strong raptor]

I dunno I just don't like support, its an annoying role, lets see if Invis changes it

[civic wren]

If you refuse to swap to something the team needs you are the problem

[hard forge]

Well, yeah, I’m wondering why though

[strong raptor]

Depends what they want tbh

[hard forge]

All of the roles are annoying

[strong raptor]

Like I'm not gonna swap to Namor because I'm not good on Namor.

I'm just gonna tank the team worse

[civic wren]

Not what they want, but If there's only one healer, or your tank is solo tanking, If you don't Swap to help them you won't make it past gold
It's a team game after all

[civic wren]

It doesn't hurt to try some characters to understand how they work, helps you counter them better as well or you can fill If needed

[strong raptor]

Only issue is playing both tank and healer makes me wanna die inside. Its always basically being attached to the hip to be sacrificed or used for heals. I'll heal you if you need but do try and do something other than stand in their fire

[civic wren]

Having a solid understanding of at least 2 heroes from each role is crucial