Sanginir Tribe

[versed whale]

lemme check code

[obtuse orchid]

wait

only vampire

can transform

tf

[versed whale]

ok so

[obtuse orchid]

also i need to fix disembarking as soon as its on a land tile which really sucks cuz idk how to do that

[versed whale]

problem is

[obtuse orchid]

wait

leechsgn

thats what i need

lol

i fucked up the blacklist

lemme try with this adjustment

[versed whale]

the way polibrary does this unitAbilityBlack/Whitelist is that if ANY whitelist is active it always automatically denies everything else that is not in the whitelist

[obtuse orchid]

yeah so nvm

[obtuse orchid]

bruh

thats lowkey pretty stupid

ngl

[versed whale]

why

[obtuse orchid]

nvm

i cna just

can

add every single unit this tribe has

[versed whale]

bro why not just put like

[obtuse orchid]

wait so then i dont even need

the blacklist

i can just put all the whitelist

[versed whale]

wait

dude

you can also

put

"land", "water", "air", allat

in unitAbilityWhitelist

[obtuse orchid]

i understand it now

[versed whale]

bc every unit has at least one of those it defaults to true

[obtuse orchid]

💥

[versed whale]

now it should work correctly

[obtuse orchid]

spoiler

it did

ok

i need to do disembark shenanigans now

i need to disable it until the un-transform ability is used

well i mean i got untransform done, i just need to stop it from automatically untransforming when moving over land now

[versed whale]

does DisembarkAction not exist?

can u check if i have dementia or not

it does

[obtuse orchid]

it does, but it doesnt deal with the terrain type that it disembarks on

[versed whale]

huh?

[obtuse orchid]

but it does work

yippee yahoo

[obtuse orchid]

it doesnt

im guessing

[versed whale]

wdym deal with the terrain type

[obtuse orchid]

its something else

that

tells it to disembark

when it touches land

[obtuse orchid]

like when the unit is on land, it disembarks

the issue is, its not in the disembark code

so i need to look for something

that does that

[versed whale]

no like instead of writing ur own disembark code u could just call disembarkAction to untransform the unit

way simpler and stabler

[obtuse orchid]

ok but i still need to find out how to make it not disembark whenever it moves on land

[versed whale]

yeah that could be a bit tricky

[obtuse orchid]

like this? (dont mind the error)

[versed whale]

yeah

pretty much

[obtuse orchid]

found it

[versed whale]

player.id

[versed whale]

is the method long?

[obtuse orchid]

yeah, i'd say so

but most of it is other things

[versed whale]

jesus

[versed whale]

yeah well thats kind of an issue

[obtuse orchid]

i just need to change this
else if (!tile2.IsWater && unitData.IsVehicle())
{
gameState.ActionStack.Add(new DisembarkAction(base.PlayerId, worldCoordinates));
}

oh

nvm

rip

its over

im done

im cooked

[versed whale]

yeah

thats not so simple

[obtuse orchid]

yeah no it doesnt do anything

[obtuse orchid]

💔

[versed whale]

idk

[obtuse orchid]

its over

im done

im cooked

[versed whale]

try with .Id

not .id

[obtuse orchid]

aha

it works

thank you

[versed whale]

and for the disembark on land shit

uhh

[obtuse orchid]

what would be a synonym for "untransform"

cuz i dont want to put transform

[versed whale]

idk

[obtuse orchid]

copy and paste the whole thing except the one part

[versed whale]

holy short mod lifespan 🔥

i think

[obtuse orchid]

lol

i doubt thatd even work

considering dnspy uses an outdated version

of polyotpia

[versed whale]

we could pull a classic fappy effect thing

[obtuse orchid]

effect where it cant disembark?

unless i manually do so?

[versed whale]

prefix the method, check for that exact case (if its not water and is carrier), add an effect to the unit, and prefix disembarkAction, check for that effect, and if it sees the effect it cancels the action

[obtuse orchid]

🧠

k

[versed whale]

OH and also check if its one of your units not boats cuz that could get akward

land bomber

[obtuse orchid]

bomber? whats a bomber? sanginir doesnt have a boat

[obtuse orchid]

ok so i thought i knew how to load in an effect but it turns out i dont

[obtuse orchid]

wait cant i just prefix checking if the unit is batswarm

[versed whale]

prefix where

[obtuse orchid]

the method

[versed whale]

which one

[obtuse orchid]

disembark action

wait no

theb uhh

moveaction

the one that triggers disembark action

[versed whale]

and what do you do once you check for batswarm or whatever

[obtuse orchid]

oh

i understand

wait

hmm

no

cuz if i can check for effect

why cant i just

check for unit type instead

[versed whale]

cuz then you couldnt disembark it no matter what

[obtuse orchid]

even if i manually do it with the ability?

[versed whale]

well then no but that means probably more maintenance

[obtuse orchid]

why more maintenance?

[obtuse orchid]

PolyMod.Loader.AddPatchDataType("unitEffect", typeof(EnumCache<UnitEffect>.GetType("nodisembarkbatswarmsgn")));

this is wrong

so i cant do effect

[versed whale]

if they change something ur code will be outdated

[obtuse orchid]

change what??

dawg u gotta be specific im not a pro polyscripter

[versed whale]

like

anything

idk

i got no clue what midjiwan has planned

[obtuse orchid]

💀☠️

[obtuse orchid]

https://klipy.com/gifs/breaking-bad-chemistry-3

this is what wasd thought he was cooking when i asked him to be specific

how tf is unit effect less maintenance than checking for a specific unit type that i will not be changing

like dawg

if they change unit effect the mod will break

but if they change unit state and stuff, every mod will break

so

like

just checking for the unit type is better than just adding an effect and checking for it later

@tacit pasture yo bro so instead of adding a unit effect, why dont i just check the unit type, in order to make it ignore disembarking when being on land?

wasd thinks i need a unit effect because checking for unit type will make my code outdated, he doesnt know why or how or anything it just will

anyway

context is

i have a unit that another unit transforms into

but as soon as it moves on land, it switches back

so what i need

is to patch the MoveAction

to make it not disembark when its not on water

and i can do this by checking if its specifically the unit i want

but wasd thinks

i need to add a unit effect

and check for it

because checking for unit type is outdated for no reason

[tacit pasture]

Why not use polymod's embarksTo?

[obtuse orchid]

?

[versed whale]

that is literally what im saying

[obtuse orchid]

you said nothing of the sort

stop blatantly lying

[tacit pasture]

Polymod has built in embarking stuff

But idk how it works exactly

[obtuse orchid]

i dont want it to embark dawg

[versed whale]

im saying use polytopias embark-disembark system with polymods embarkTo

[obtuse orchid]

NO YOU'RE NOT

[versed whale]

i am

like

[obtuse orchid]

BOOM

[obtuse orchid]

stop lying

[versed whale]

i told u to use EmbarkAction and DisembarkAction

[obtuse orchid]

like deadass

[obtuse orchid]

WHEREEEEE

and also

[versed whale]

ur joking right?

[obtuse orchid]

U NEVER SAID ANYTHING

ABOUT POLYMOD

I NATURALLY ASSUMED U MEANT THE METHOD

stfu

dont speak

[versed whale]

thats the fix for that terrain thing, USING POLYTOPIA EMBARK-DISEMBARK

[obtuse orchid]

HOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW DO I USE THAT

[versed whale]

i thought that was obvious

[obtuse orchid]

yeah no kys

[versed whale]

its literally in the message

[obtuse orchid]

you said add an effect

and im not doing

all the effect shenanigans

[versed whale]

yes, adding an effect, while using polytopia disembark

[obtuse orchid]

like how tf does polymod embark disembark EVEN WORK

[versed whale]

you call embark

it embarks

u call disembark

it disembarks

[obtuse orchid]

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN DOING

[versed whale]

and moveaction, guess what, calls disembark, so u gotta patch that to not call it

[obtuse orchid]

YES

[versed whale]

yes cuz i told you to do that

[obtuse orchid]

THEN TF IS FAP YAPPING ABOUT HERE

he said to use polymod embarkTo

you agreed

WÉKYejhewiorlhjgk;qwèeh3

[versed whale]

this exact same thing i suppose

[obtuse orchid]

embarkAction and DisembarkAction != polymod EmbarkTo

stop being a dumbass

if u said i needed EmbarkTo this whole time, well you DIDNT SAY THAT AT ALL

i cant even concieve how EmbarkTo would be useful

thats literally just when the unit steps on the port

what it turns into

esfesfafawfasd

fgsadf

asdg

asdg

sadg

asdg

sd

asdg

ads

[obtuse orchid]

PLUS

i already have the embarkAction working

i have no need to touch that

or use polymod

or whatever you said i needed to use NOW but didnt say yesterday even though you're saying you were saying that the whole time

[versed whale]

yes when the unit embarks

[obtuse orchid]

the unit embarking

is not the issue

you stupid cunt

[versed whale]

then what?

[obtuse orchid]

disembarking

when it touches land

ts is unrelated to embarkAction

its moveAction and disembarkAction

i just need to patch the moveAction

you havent been very helpful there though

[versed whale]

ok and i told you how to fix it but u ignored and insisted on either writing disembark action from scratch or checking unitData.Type which spoilers: wont work

[tacit pasture]

Guys im back

Holy walls of text

[obtuse orchid]

HOW does changing the way the unit embarks EVER going to change which terrain, if any, it disembarks on

[versed whale]

bro the effect workaround isnt related to embarking

youd know that if u tried dawg

[obtuse orchid]

I KNOW IT ISNT CUZ THATS NOT WHAT IM TRYING TO FIX

[tacit pasture]

What is the discourse about, if I may inquire?

[versed whale]

honestly idk what but bananique is ranting about something not working

[obtuse orchid]

so

embark and disembark work fine

except

heres the thing

it disembarks when its on land

i need ot pathc moveAction to fix this

i can check for unit type to prevent it from disembarking when on land

[tacit pasture]

Ok like what is the gameplay you are making

[versed whale]

he has a flying boat that cant move to land cuz its hardcoded to disembark

[tacit pasture]

Where does it embark and disembark and what

[versed whale]

basically he has a manual imp that embarks a unit into a flying bat that has carry, and he has an imp to disembark

his problem is that when the unit moves on land, due to hardcoding in moveAction, it disembarks

what i told him to do was add an effect on prefix moveAction and check for it, then cancel in disembarkAction

[obtuse orchid]

manually transforms

with ability

improvement

[tacit pasture]

i mean a lazy option would be to kill the unit and train a new one on its place

[obtuse orchid]

how would i trainsform back

to the unit it was originally

if that were the case

i need a passengerunit

[tacit pasture]

hm

like

when does it transform back?

[obtuse orchid]

manual improvement

turns it back to normal

[tacit pasture]

so

like

[versed whale]

[tacit pasture]

you have unit1, which can transform into unit2 with manual improvemnet, and unit2 that can transform into unit1 with manual improvement?

do unit1 and unit2 have same maxhp stats?

[versed whale]

[obtuse orchid]

it works exactly like a boat in this case

[tacit pasture]

hm anyways, the noble way would be to use embarkaction somehow, but tbh i never once read its code or how it works

[tacit pasture]

but the dirty way is

I mean

[obtuse orchid]

to stop it from disembarking from moving on land?

[tacit pasture]

well that probably needs to be prefix disabled

i uh dont exactly know how polytopia works there

[versed whale]

moveaction checks if land and if land --> disembark

[tacit pasture]

but i imagine in moveaction there is an if-gate when it steps on land and is embarked, and that does stuff

[tacit pasture]

[sour beacon]

uh

[versed whale]

holy predict

[sour beacon]

wdym move action

u sure its move action and not command

[versed whale]

command, whatever, idk

[sour beacon]

yeah

[obtuse orchid]

yes

[versed whale]

not my tribe bub

[obtuse orchid]

i saw it in moveaction

[sour beacon]

ok

[obtuse orchid]

yeah thats it

i need to changr this

[tacit pasture]

i see

well, you can see that it calls DisembarkAction

so if you prefix patch DisembarkAction.execute(default?) and check whether the unit on the tile is this specific unit, then return false (aka don't continue the method) otherwise return true. Ofc make it a bool patch

and i believe it would have no sideeffects whatsoever

[obtuse orchid]

k

[tacit pasture]

and also you can call that disembarkaction for the manual improvement

to call an action idk if you know this, but like you can use what is literally in the image:
gameState.ActionStack.Add(new Action(parameters))

[obtuse orchid]

just realized i cant do this cuz then i'd need to change the default embarkTo and i cant do that

[obtuse orchid]

ye i did that

[obtuse orchid]

hmmmmmm

how do i get a tile coordinates from only gameState cuz all the other times ive gotten coordinates, i had __instance but i dont have it here cuz its not in the parameters

[versed whale]

tileData.Coordinates?

does that exist?

[obtuse orchid]

it doesnt exist in the current context

[versed whale]

bud u have __instance

u just gotta make it

[obtuse orchid]

🤔

[versed whale]

add DisembarkAction __instance

to params

harmony will provide it for you

[obtuse orchid]

chat im cooked

[versed whale]

so no need to worry about crashes

[obtuse orchid]

ty

[versed whale]

or anything

[obtuse orchid]

peak coding

[versed whale]

yes

idk why its white not blue but ok ig

[obtuse orchid]

it turned to vengir

[versed whale]

__instance discovered the secrets of smithery

[obtuse orchid]

the underscores are blue

its just instance

btw

im thinking changing bat swarm mechanocs

mechanics

because currently

i made it so one tech path can turn it into a combat unit

i dont want this anymore

i want to change it to something else

[versed whale]

um

idk what you are talking about but i support you

[obtuse orchid]

cuz its just a transport unit

[obtuse orchid]

you see

currently

units transform into "bat swarm"

which can attack

i mean ig it makes sense

but its original intent

was to be a transport unit

so this tribe can traverse water

but now

if its a combat unit

its just a bat

but better

and i dont like that

[versed whale]

ok

[obtuse orchid]

btw

Cannot get result from void method void DisembarkAction::ExecuteDefault(GameState gameState)

[versed whale]

remove __result

cuz its void

so there is no result

and ur tryna get one

[obtuse orchid]

then how do i make it not work?

like

not disembark

[versed whale]

switch out

"void"

in your own method

to "bool"

[karmic harbor]

lmao

[versed whale]

and do return false;

[karmic harbor]

so skill issue

[obtuse orchid]

bro go away

[tacit pasture]

mov out_of_this_thread, exploit

[karmic harbor]

image not reading official docs

[versed whale]

i mean we all gotta start somewhere

[obtuse orchid]

real

[karmic harbor]

im llvm

so error

[tacit pasture]

rip :(

[versed whale]

hi llvm im dad

[karmic harbor]

you cant move out_of_this_thread to exploit

[karmic harbor]

skill issue

of programming

and like bro

AI exist

[versed whale]

write return true; under the if

[karmic harbor]

imagine bothering real ppl

[versed whale]

he aint bothering me

[tacit pasture]

it has to return a value under every circumstances

[obtuse orchid]

gameState.ActionStack.Add(new KillUnitAction(__instance.___exploit___, __instance.Sanginir));

[versed whale]

this is even relaxing next to fucking sprites.json

[obtuse orchid]

oh

boom

[tacit pasture]

so currently it returns false, but what if the if-gate does not execute

[obtuse orchid]

wait lemme remove result

[karmic harbor]

fucking hell

[obtuse orchid]

from parameters

[karmic harbor]

bro

WHAT THE FUCK

[versed whale]

i mean

it works ig

[obtuse orchid]

your ai is misinformation

[versed whale]

could be nicer

but its really not an issue

[karmic harbor]

return unit.type != EnumCache....

[obtuse orchid]

its flattering that you have high expectations for me

[karmic harbor]

it is generic programming error...

0 knowlage bout polytopia

[obtuse orchid]

then why should i ask it

[tacit pasture]

he prob meant generic ai

[karmic harbor]

yes

kinda

[tacit pasture]

but like ai == bad so ask humans

[obtuse orchid]

wait thats a goat strat

chat is exploit locked in

[karmic harbor]

ai != bad
ai is bad

but like

OKAY

WAIT OKAY

google exist

lets google it

[obtuse orchid]

fapingvin also exist

[tacit pasture]

faipingvin

[karmic harbor]

BRO WAIT

[obtuse orchid]

[karmic harbor]

you are

TOO STUPID

like 0 iq

[obtuse orchid]

@sour beacon keep your dog on a leash please

[karmic harbor]

you can even CLICK the error

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/misc/cs0161

[obtuse orchid]

you look like this

[karmic harbor]

and

[obtuse orchid]

https://klipy.com/gifs/roz-monsters-2

[karmic harbor]

bro you cant click error

in the fucking UI editor

[tacit pasture]

yall

stop

[obtuse orchid]

AHA IT WORKS

[karmic harbor]

why use string insted of nameof

it checks method in compile time

[obtuse orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/what-da-tuna-cat-tuna-ginger-cat-gif-8153395904323347190

[tacit pasture]

nameof(Class.Method)

instead of "methodname"

[tacit pasture]

mm tuna

[obtuse orchid]

houston we have a problem, disembark doesnt work anymore with the ability

it turns out

i SHOULDVE KEPT MY OWN CODE HMMMM

instead of using stupid

disembarkaction

thing

[versed whale]

no u should have done what i suggested you do

and use

effects

[obtuse orchid]

❌

how should those fix

like

literally anything

[karmic harbor]

not knowing is ok

[versed whale]

if you would be so kind to

listen

then i would tell you

so

[obtuse orchid]

i am listening 👂

[karmic harbor]

not being able to find and apply information is funny

[versed whale]

basically

[obtuse orchid]

not being able to find a bridge and jump off it is funnier

[versed whale]

what you'd need to do

is

1: make an effect in gld, u can copy code from Polibrary.Main, that 100% works

2: prefix patch moveAction, check if its your fancy unit, and if it is, check if its moving on land. if those are all true we give our unit the custom effect

[karmic harbor]

not even contradiction

[versed whale]

3: prefix disembark the same way, only we check for the effect, not unit type, and if we see the effect we remove it and cancel the disembark!

[obtuse orchid]

#1362225960585400450 message < blatant insult right here
#1362225960585400450 message oh my here too
holy shit 3 times #1362225960585400450 message

seems like you are 33

33%

of my skill at arguing

😎

[karmic harbor]

this is not insult vro

facts

just screenshot from dictionaryy

[obtuse orchid]

you are built like vector

its not an isult

insult*

its a fact

[karmic harbor]

where is proof?

[karmic harbor]

subjective

[obtuse orchid]

image1 == image2

[karmic harbor]

subjective

[versed whale]

btw where is that photo taken?

[obtuse orchid]

looks like church

but it could be

[versed whale]

oh ye theres an organ

[obtuse orchid]

some other fancy institution

[karmic harbor]

St. Petersburg Academic Philharmonia

[tacit pasture]

Exploit is like good at music

[obtuse orchid]

he's not good at being kind 💔

[karmic harbor]

not really

[obtuse orchid]

real

[karmic harbor]

my friends are better than me

some of my friends

[obtuse orchid]

how far can u see without ur glasses

[tacit pasture]

Easy if your friends are musicians

[versed whale]

you are tho

stop lying

[obtuse orchid]

why are yall supporting the villain

[karmic harbor]

uhh wdym see

[obtuse orchid]

he is cruel

he is vile

[versed whale]

what villain

[karmic harbor]

text?

[obtuse orchid]

yet thou praise him

[karmic harbor]

or what

idk i have -3

[tacit pasture]

That's not that bad

[versed whale]

thats not that bad

lmao

[tacit pasture]

Lmao

[versed whale]

great minds think alike

[obtuse orchid]

E

A F

r i c a
-# no water

[versed whale]

hungary hivemind

[tacit pasture]

I inherited like -7 💀

[karmic harbor]

[versed whale]

0 babyyy

[karmic harbor]

Were going to play Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto for graduation (just for fun) and our soloist learnt 10 minutes of this hell in like 2 months

[obtuse orchid]

he's locked in

[versed whale]

holy

fuckign

shit

thats mad

[tacit pasture]

Would've been 5 months with simply piano 🤷

Lol I wanted to say a shorter time than original but this works too

[obtuse orchid]

so i did yalls dumb strats of calling for disembark action

it made untransform not work

so i replaced it with my old code

boom it works

we have functional rituals where polytopians can transform into bats

[tacit pasture]

what is your current code?

[obtuse orchid]

wait

so

i know what to do

i can replace the bat swarm attack abilities

with switching already moved/alreayd attacked

so i can make transform make units able to attack instantly after using it

is this pro

i was thinking

maybe replace bat swarm with something else

cuz its not really a swarm anymore

i was thinking "bat form"

[obtuse orchid]

i got a wacky idea for "eternal swarm" t3 tech

all units are permanently in Bat Form, but retain their old stats

[versed whale]

for now

[obtuse orchid]

bro

WHY WOUldnt it work

[versed whale]

it would

until they change carrier code or sum

idk

feels shitty

[obtuse orchid]

why would they lol

[versed whale]

cuz its ass mayhaps idk

[obtuse orchid]

and if they do i can just fix this mod?

[obtuse orchid]

it works so i dont think so

and if they did change it

it would be for the better

so easier for me

[versed whale]

i mean thats one way of thinking ig

[obtuse orchid]

why should i trouble myself now

when i can trouble future me who will have more experience

[versed whale]

you could also build experience and skill now tbh

cuz this is easy to copy and paste but not everything is like this

[obtuse orchid]

then i will simply

not do ideas i know to be so complicated that i cant learn from other code

[versed whale]

bro ts aint that complicated

[obtuse orchid]

im not going to change functional code for something we dont even know is going to happen in a meaningful amount of time

[obtuse orchid]

i think all i need left

is

-1 movement on water for bat/bat form (easy)
extended wingspan ability: bats and bat form units gain +1 movement if no enemy is adjacent (medium)
eternal night: bat form protects units inside from taking damage when they take damage
savagery: after un-transforming from bat form, units can move and attack instantly (easy)
vampiric aura: units adjacent to vampire gain leech if they dont have it already (hard)
vampire castle connecting to capital from anywhere (hard)
fanatic spawning bat on kill (medium-hard)

monuments (medium)
unit sprites (hard)

[obtuse orchid]

ok im going to get the easy things done first

[obtuse orchid]

i just cooked

now bats should get -1 movement on water and ocean

and also

[versed whale]

w

[obtuse orchid]

bats if the tech is unlocked should get +1 movement if no enemies are adjacent

[obtuse orchid]

even wasd approves!!!!

yoooo

[versed whale]

bro i approve all the time

bud i am not exploit

[obtuse orchid]

i forgot movement wasnt like that lmao

[versed whale]

poor bat

[obtuse orchid]

i got the tech that gives more movement, it cancels out now!

hehehe i moved it on land

ok so the neighbours thing doesnt quite work

[tacit pasture]

I think you should replace the || with && in the flag

[obtuse orchid]

but then it will check if its only my units but they are also null

also

rn

its checking if there is a unit there, it will only activate if its mine

wait

i know what i need to do

ok this is better

[obtuse orchid]

because i think it will activate if one of my units are there

here it checks if there is a unit there

wait i need an "else" for the result

[obtuse orchid]

if its not mine, the whole thing stops

wait

no i know what i need

how does "break" work

does it stop the loop

this could work i think

cuz if my theory is right

if it detecs a single unit that isnt mine

it stops

if it detects no units, or no units that are mine anyway, it will add

i broke movement

hmmm

k i got a solution

it increases movement speed by 1 by default

except when theres an enemy unit adjacent

then it doesnt

it didnt work

[obtuse orchid]

i got it working yippee yahoo

(i was checking if the unit owner wasnt null, and that makes no sense)

[obtuse orchid]

bringing this back

3/9

33% done in one day yep lets go

i think i can get fanatic bat training done too

then i can do some sprites

:D

this tribe is gonna be so peak

hmmm

the "frenzy" ability isnt working how i want it to

so

what i want is

when a unit kills another unit, it gains the speedy effect

this normally works cuz when the unit retaliates, it removes the speedy effect

however

against stiff units

bats always gain the speedy effect

wait i can check if the unit has the stiff ability

wait but then if it kills a stiff unit

then it wont get it

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

easy solution

its a feature that bat gains movement whenever it damages a stiff unit even if it doesnt kill it

[obtuse orchid]

bringing this back again

[karmic harbor]

1. spagetti control flow (rollback of value)
2. magic values
3. GetType every call

so crappy

[versed whale]

bro its gives 1 movement when no unit is nearby bud ts aint this serious

[obtuse orchid]

real

bro thinks im making the code for the next space exploration robot

[tacit pasture]

It's a mod noone gaf

But there is an argument to be made

That exercising proper coding helps improve mind. I say do whatever you want lmao

[obtuse orchid]

idk what vector even means and idk how or why to replace my current ways

[tacit pasture]

Magic values is like when you use numbers without explanation and also like repeating it.

So like:

int getYPosition = {
     return currentpos*0.9
}

You dont know what 0.9 is but if you define a const like gravity, and use that it is clearer. Also if you use 0.9 everywhere, and want to change it, changing a constant is easier

Yes my example is very very wrong

But im on a train rn

[obtuse orchid]

he thinks i should have a "movementchange" variable and use that instead of +- 1 ???

[versed whale]

yeah, with bigger projects its actually useful to understand code better

but for a small project like this its just style points

[obtuse orchid]

hi

should i work on this tribe today

[tacit pasture]

Why not

[obtuse orchid]

its only hard stuff left that idk how i should do

except today i got a revelation on bat kill

so that should be ez

yeah no the revelation was false

its a lot more complex than i first anticipated

[versed whale]

can u like

share

or idk

[obtuse orchid]

well its not the code thats the issue its that idk really what im meant to do

you see

i need to spawn the bat when the unit is killed

however

if i use the killaction

then

i cant get the one that killed it

[versed whale]

thats seems

complicated as hell

or idk

[obtuse orchid]

true

everything left is comploicated

i have no clue how to do it

[versed whale]

also

why spawn a bat on kill

thats so random

[obtuse orchid]

thats what the fanatic does

its the fanatic's whole thing

[versed whale]

oh

its a unit

like

a fix unit

[obtuse orchid]

its a ranged unit that when it kills a unit

it spawns a bat in the place of the unit it just killed

[versed whale]

ok

that changes things

so like

you can just like copy the kill check from attackAction and insert a trainUnitAction to 0 i suppose

[obtuse orchid]

ah

ok

[versed whale]

lot of gibberish i wont explain, ask fap idk

[obtuse orchid]

wait actually why dont i just

copy old bat spawner code

boom easy

yeah so it didnt work

it also broke the bat form not transforming when it touched land

[versed whale]

this is why you never celebrate early

[obtuse orchid]

this is why i never do hard polyscript as a beginner

[obtuse orchid]

bro why are you so mean to me

you were always like

you should polyscript bananique cuz you are dumb if you dont or something

and now that i am

you are like

you are dumb because i expect you to be like fapingvin but you arent and why havent you learned everything there is to know in one week lmaooo

[karmic harbor]

I just shouldn't communicate with people

[obtuse orchid]

then dont???

also

its literally JUST ME that you act this way to

so

its not that

stop making excuses

[karmic harbor]

wrong

you just dont have access

[obtuse orchid]

with fapingvin and wasd

you are

with me

you are

[karmic harbor]

to other chats

[obtuse orchid]

@sour beacon is he bullying you in admin chat

[karmic harbor]

i mean just git gud

use git to get gud

im trying to learn to draw rn

in inkscape

[obtuse orchid]

show

i want to bully you

so show your "art"

[karmic harbor]

noonno

[obtuse orchid]

actually

[karmic harbor]

i will not

[obtuse orchid]

:)

im going to be the kinder person

im not going to fall to your level

mwahahahahah

[karmic harbor]

[obtuse orchid]

bro why are u trying to learn to draw anyway

[karmic harbor]

cuz i want to make a tribe obv

[obtuse orchid]

i thought

u didnt like polytopia

and didnt care about it

[tacit pasture]

Getting bullied by exploit is a canon event

You can't escape it

[obtuse orchid]

wait till i get so good at polyscript that klipi decides i should replace exploit

that would be the mega revenge

[karmic harbor]

lmao PolyMod is 30% code, 60% architecture, 10% deployment

[obtuse orchid]

aha

so

if i get 333% good at polyscript

i can do all code 😎

[tacit pasture]

Wrong it is 90% party, 10% party

[obtuse orchid]

bro

these gifs all suck

tf

[tacit pasture]

Discord changed gifs

I mean

They didn't have a choice

[obtuse orchid]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai

aha a good one

thats literally me btw

🧠

both of them combined

could not hope to match

my skill

at making dysfunctional code

[tacit pasture]

I mean true

Cause they mainly lived before computers

[obtuse orchid]

real

did you know that cleopatra never said thank you

to anyone

ever

in history

because she didnt speak english

https://klipy.com/gifs/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai

[tacit pasture]

Brutal woman

[hasty zephyr]

🤯

Nah there’s a non 0 chance that she made a noise that sounded like “thank you”

[versed whale]

w

show progress i wanna see

[karmic harbor]

no

only finished and polished

[versed whale]

valid

[sour beacon]

we do mutual bullying

[versed whale]

as it should be

[karmic harbor]

yes, cuz together we strong

[obtuse orchid]

can i do mutual bullying with exploit

[karmic harbor]

no.

[obtuse orchid]

no?

are you sure?

[versed whale]

no.

[obtuse orchid]

yes.

@karmic harbor you SUCK! 😂 LMAO

[tacit pasture]

Oh how the tables have turned

[obtuse orchid]

ok i want to cook up some sanginir today

except

idk how to do whatever's left

[obtuse orchid]

k so im not doing permanent bat form

so i need to think of something else

what would make bat form feel eternal

[tacit pasture]

What is left to do

And you don't know how to start

[obtuse orchid]

anything not crossed out, that is on the top part

actually maybe vampiric aura i can do

i can attempt

[tacit pasture]

ye

[obtuse orchid]

on my own

[tacit pasture]

i told you

[obtuse orchid]

i just dont know how to add

[tacit pasture]

which method to patch

[obtuse orchid]

the unit abikity to unitdata

[tacit pasture]

no i mean you dont have to

[obtuse orchid]

wait.

i know what i can do

in the leech code

i can check

for tile neighbours

and to check if one is vampire

and if the tech is researched

and the unit doesnt have leech

it gets leech

or wait

[tacit pasture]

there are two methods by the name of HasAbility() that returns whether the unit has a certain ability or not. If you're lucky, the one with the unitstate parameter is still working, and if the neighbor is vampire or anything, you manually return true

*set the __result to true I mean by returning true

[obtuse orchid]

kaboom

ez

then i can just check for vampiric aura in the leech checking if the unit has leech ability

this is pro

k so i got an idea for eternal night

when the bat form takes damage

and untransforms

the original unit will have the original hp

[versed whale]

why not make the bat form drop the unit when killed

[obtuse orchid]

you absolute moron

do you kmow what bat form even is

they arent being carried by bats

they turn into the bats

so if the bat dies

they die too

[versed whale]

ye but when they die they turn back

thats what im tryna say

[obtuse orchid]

if u are dead u cant turn back

@tacit pasture should i make fanatic still spawn bat on kill? cuz it doesnt really work rn

[tacit pasture]

maybe

[tacit pasture]

uh idk if this is the best implementation btw

idk

[obtuse orchid]

idk how to do better tho

keep in mind this is my first actually serious polyscript project with more than 2 patches

even tho 75% of the features are split among 2 patches here lol

[tacit pasture]

uh idk let me think

[obtuse orchid]

so where the 0 is

would be unitData

[tacit pasture]

what

0 is price

[obtuse orchid]

tf

[tacit pasture]

didnt want it to deduce any stars

for spawning

[obtuse orchid]

ohhhh

thats cuz

i know why

[tacit pasture]

cuz its free yes

[obtuse orchid]

bat ransform hing

uses actionUtils.trainunit

this one is trainaction

[tacit pasture]

also the spawned unit should be independent

[obtuse orchid]

is actionutils better for this?

actionutils trainunit

instead of trainaction

[obtuse orchid]

it is dw

[tacit pasture]

i mean

actionutils.tranunit and trainaction

they are pretty much the same

[obtuse orchid]

ah

so

[tacit pasture]

trainaction is safer

but

actionutils.trainunit returns the unit that was trained

which is pretty handy

cause then you can instantly modify it

[obtuse orchid]

[tacit pasture]

and with trainaction, you cant really

i mean you dont know when the action will be executed

i mean you can know cause it gets added to top of stack and lifo, but like actionutils one is better for that

but if you dont need to modify unit

just use trainaction

[obtuse orchid]

ye

[obtuse orchid]

teehee vampiric aura works

time to population farm with archers

hey fapingvin

im thinking

since catapults are a thing

i dont like it

so what should i replace catapults with?

im thinking an ability

[tacit pasture]

trebuchets

[obtuse orchid]

what math would vampires do

[obtuse orchid]

no bruh

cuz the problem is

catapults can enter bat form

and good luck turning a war machine into a bat

[tacit pasture]

well make them exempt

[obtuse orchid]

that would make them unable to traverse water

bro i can farm population with hunger and vampiric aura

ig u could say

thats aura

my warrior healing after killing a unit

lmao my fanatic too

vampires are too fun

this tribe is aweosme!!!!

i cant wait for release

or should i release it?

🤔

yousee

what if

nvmè

oh

what

so if units with leech are attacked

they will trigger leech in retaliation

thats awesome im keeping it

@tacit pasture is implementing graphics from polyscript easy

[tacit pasture]

wdym

[obtuse orchid]

cuz im thinking if i research vampiric aura

[tacit pasture]

by that

[obtuse orchid]

i give my vampire

a red glow on the tile he is on

[tacit pasture]

make the tint red?

i mean the outline

[obtuse orchid]

actually thats a good idea but no

like the tile its standing on

glows red

[tacit pasture]

uh

doable but difficult i think

[obtuse orchid]

oh

nvmthen

[tacit pasture]

idk

[obtuse orchid]

ok so if leech works in retaliation, medium ai is simply unable to do any damage to you

and ur units just get infinite hp

and ur cities get infinite pop

[tacit pasture]

btw can the ai use this tribe?

[obtuse orchid]

this defence literally works

[obtuse orchid]

wait good question

[tacit pasture]

what are the golden units?

[obtuse orchid]

speedy

from frenzy

[tacit pasture]

also vampire castle sprite was made by rastrapies are gonna use those?

[obtuse orchid]

(when leech unit kills a unit, they gain speed)