Yeah, Daggerbat is cool.
#Sanginir Tribe
desert mist
obtuse orchid
k! thanks :)
oh by the way im back
way better than mine lol.
are you on an older version? cuz the terrain isnt the updated version
agile storm
way better than mine lol.
Ha ha just happy to contribute, I'm studying music at college ha ha 😊 but if you have any requests or changes, even the whole thing, I'm more than happy to do what you want to make it fit your mod 😊
obtuse orchid
:D
||sorry to ruin the fun but the cloak still needs a fix. and the tribe preview should be put in, its in the patch.json that i uploaded up here (#1362225960585400450 message)||
lets gooo the tribe is almost done
rough pivot
are you on an older version? cuz the terrain isnt the updated version
I downloaded it like literally 4 minutes before you posted the new one
obtuse orchid
I downloaded it like literally 4 minutes before you posted the new one
lol
agile storm
wait no that might be wrong
Would you like me to rewrite it around this theme or are you wanting to just stick with that recording?
obtuse orchid
Would you like me to rewrite it around this theme or are you wanting to just sti...
sure. i like the melody im currently using (kalinka) and i think it fits. also, i like what you did with the intensity at the end of yours, so if you re-write the one i did, please do something like that :D
sour beacon
maybe i understand something wrong but kalinka by no means does fit
obtuse orchid
maybe i understand something wrong but kalinka by no means does fit
bruh
well, lord savaroth, if you dont want it to be kalinka, its your call. i personally think it would work but johnklipi thinks otherwise
sour beacon
lmaooooo
obtuse orchid
sour beacon
its just my personal opinion lololol
do how y’all like
it is your mod
(every time i hear something remotely sounding like kalinka, i hear original version in my head which gives pretty positive notes)
obtuse orchid
....im confused now
obtuse orchid
maybe i understand something wrong but kalinka by no means does fit
"by no means does not fit"
...do you think it fits? cuz right now im understanding something wrong
sour beacon
"by no means does not fit"
...do you think it fits? cuz right now *im* understa...
no i dont think it fits
LOL
okay sorry i think i misunderstood the expression by no means
i meant like
by no means does fit
or wait
obtuse orchid
by no means does fit
watch the double negatives 🪦
obtuse orchid
ok
sour beacon
sour beacon
watch the double negatives 🪦
yeah that’s cus in russian it would be like how i wrote
i think
like
if i translate word by word what i wanted to say it would be
“it (is) not in any way not fitting
which means that it does not fit in any way
obtuse orchid
ok
agile storm
well, lord savaroth, if you dont want it to be kalinka, its your call. i persona...
No no no it's your mod, I'm just here to help make dreams come true ❤️ It's however you like! Is this the Kalinka you are referring to? https://youtu.be/T0KKsyBoz8c?si=js_E4DJmEFi3SJbG
obtuse orchid
yes, although probably a much slower version to give it darker vibes (so it fits with the tribe?)
and without the vocals
agile storm
Ok let me see what I can do!
obtuse orchid
k
obtuse orchid
hmm?
bro fanatics early game are so fun but probably terrible to play against
you can just swarm them with bats
they're quite strong though
how do yall suppose we nerf them?
small detail. the vampire castle should also account for vampire boats to level up, because i embarked 2 vampires and the vampire castle lost 2 levels
obtuse orchid
low tinsel
Yeah that's probably best
low tinsel
Yeah. A strong archer that spawns things though, so that makes it cool
obtuse orchid
i think archers will finally get some use with fanatics being so expensive now
low tinsel
I mean, a unit not being used for a specific tribe isn’t a problem, unless it’s a special unit. Oumaji will never use catapults, and hoodrick will rarely use defenders. I don’t see that as a problem, though if a unit is never used ever (like Ice fortress or mind bender) that is a problem
obtuse orchid
fair enough
desert mist
Another bug. The “Summoner” ability doesn't create a Dagger when it kills a unit that's on a square with a resource such as a fruit or animal, it just destroys the resource.
low tinsel
Oh that’s weird
tacit pasture
indeed it is, there's nothing in the dll code that would do that
hardy coyote
can i download this?
obtuse orchid
yes. the latest version is in the pinned message
hardy coyote
thank you
obtuse orchid
np
obtuse orchid
short bay
Seeing a sacrifice option on the vampires has me double take it every single time. I just have to tell myself "NO, don't sacrifice the allmighty vampire lest you fall to the freaking bugs"
Are you going to change the dingy's to look more like the redesigned cloak?
obtuse orchid
Are you going to change the dingy's to look more like the redesigned cloak?
idk. maybe once we fix the cloak, cuz u can probably see theres a weird outline of a regular cloak thats too high above it
low tinsel
idk. maybe once we fix the cloak, cuz u can probably see theres a weird outline ...
Oh is that the problem? You should be able to create an image with name cloak_outline_sanginir_. Or did you try that?
low tinsel
Did you change the size in the sprites file?
obtuse orchid
Did you change the size in the sprites file?
its the thing on top thats the problem
the original is fine, i can fix the size of it
low tinsel
Oh is that the problem? You should be able to create an image with name `cloak_o...
Oh I see. So you make a file named this and it didn't load?
I think I see lol
low tinsel
I'm confused. Which file is the problem: the tint, the outline (blue tinge), or the sprite itself?
obtuse orchid
this outline right there is the problem
its not a sprite that we addedso i cant change the size
low tinsel
Oh okay. And when you load in your own outline this first one doesn't leave?
obtuse orchid
nope
obtuse orchid
thats why i wanted to revert the cloak back to normal, maybe that wouldnt be a problem, cuz it seems to me like its the normal cloak outline
low tinsel
I don't know. Maybe I'll look at it when I have time eventually. Or maybe not, we'll see
obtuse orchid
ok
obtuse orchid
i did some funny things and i realized that fanatic with 5 attack, 2 movement, persist, bat spawn, escape, and dash is stupidly strong
it can wipe out armies at a time
short bay
does escape let you move into range and continue attacking with persist?
tacit pasture
Well, escape+persist is always stupidly broken lol
obtuse orchid
Well, escape+persist is always stupidly broken lol
well no cuz im pretty sure u need dash to attack again after escaping
low tinsel
Well, escape+persist is always stupidly broken lol
Wouldn’t be with a small attack. That could actually be a good idea! Have a unit with like 1.5 attack and dash, escape, and persist 😄
This could be a new tribe 🤔 😊
obtuse orchid
Wouldn’t be with a small attack. That could actually be a good idea! Have a unit...
im tempted to add stomp and tentacles as well
obtuse orchid
This could be a new tribe 🤔 😊
bugali (the tribe im making solo) has a knight super unit with escape
i could give it stomp but nerf its stats
cuz rn it has 5 attack 3 defense
tacit pasture
Stomp + persist is goated lol
obtuse orchid
but i could nerf to 4 attack 2 defense and add stomp
obtuse orchid
Stomp + persist is goated lol
i considered that as a possiblity for the vampire boat
but then i was like "nah"
obtuse orchid
but i could nerf to 4 attack 2 defense and add stomp
maybe even 2.5 attack with stomp
obtuse orchid
Stomp + persist is goated lol
i wonder what happenes if splash is added as well
pure destruction
nothing would survive
tacit pasture
If you have too many area damage then you can't persist chain much though
obtuse orchid
If you have too many area damage then you can't persist chain much though
unless its a ranged unit with escape
super mega wizard unit idea?
trust me itll work
ive tested it with fanatic
tacit pasture
Playing against crazy sanginir is already challenging lol, imagine with persist fanatics
The AI actually trains them and I love that
tacit pasture
Besieging 2 cities with the same unit lol
obtuse orchid
real
agile storm
That's terrifying
obtuse orchid
This should be the updated vampire
lol
low tinsel
Maybe get rid of stomp but
obtuse orchid
nah, i think that would make vampire too strong
it would heal far too much from leech
low tinsel
Persist spawn bats sounds really fun
low tinsel
it would heal far too much from leech
Less hp, less defence
obtuse orchid
Persist spawn bats sounds really fun
sounds really useless, seeing as their attack is so darn weak
low tinsel
Glass cannon super unit
low tinsel
sounds really useless, seeing as their attack is so darn weak
But you’re killing enemies at the same time
obtuse orchid
Glass cannon super unit
im already making that tho 🪦 but u can cahnge it if you want. you're the one making most of the tribe, anyway
low tinsel
Lol fair
low tinsel
im already making that tho 🪦 but u can cahnge it if you want. you're the one ma...
You’re making that?
Oh with the vampire as is?
obtuse orchid
You’re making that?
no, im making that as the super unit for #1377406294432157807
a really strong knight
obtuse orchid
:)
so uhhh. whats going on with the tribe right now? is the vampire boat being made?
short bay
Something I installed messed up the terrain, making the buildings in the cities, fruit, and mountains REALLY big, while the fields are SUPER small
obtuse orchid
Something I installed messed up the terrain, making the buildings in the cities,...
that would be an issue with a sprites.json
one of the files you installed or modified has a mistake
maybe you put a "00" by mistake
obtuse orchid
I never modified any of the installations
check the sprites.json of mezzoz
tacit pasture
or if the mod is messed up internally, you did not modify anything? Do other tribes' terrain work well?
short bay
mezzoz isn't installed either, it's not in a finished or semi finished state
obtuse orchid
hm. sanginir works for me, and last time that happened with me, its cuz the sprites.json was messed up
short bay
tovaan is mostly fine, just tiny heads and massive buildings
really tiny fruit and game that I didn't see for a sec
vanilla hoodrick is fine
I think it's the starfish mod
obtuse orchid
vanilla hoodrick is fine
all the vanilla tribes should be good, cuz midjiwan probably made all the sprites the correct size without needing modification
low tinsel
Try removing mods and putting them back in one at a time
obtuse orchid
fanatics feel like the backbone of every sanginir army
river terrace
i present to you, a monstrosity, costing 5 stars
mindbender buff we deserved
short bay
Erm, fanatics sometimes(?) don't spawn bats over water
even if the fishing and sailing tech is unlocked
regal bane
Where download
brazen zephyr
If you're exploit's alt you would know that you pinned the github link that takes you to the mod file
karmic harbor
If you're exploit's alt you would know that you pinned the github link that take...
it is not my alt, but idk how i can proove it
brazen zephyr
it is not my alt, but idk how i can proove it
I don't actually think it's your alt, it's just fun to pretend it is
obtuse orchid
is there anything left to do for this tribe aside from the vampire boat?
and updating leech to heal 3 hp
and fixing leech's damage
low tinsel
I think that’s everything. We should really get that push out so we can call this tribe completely finished (and balanced 😜😅)
obtuse orchid
lol
obtuse orchid
rip this tribe 🪦
tacit pasture
wdym it's finished no?
obtuse orchid
wdym it's finished no?
idk. i remember something about this tribe still needing one more update to fix some things here and there but my memory might be failing me
oh yeah. the cloak is still broken, thats what i was thinking
but idk if that will ever be fixed
short bay
I think you wanted to increase leeches healing to 3 as well
low tinsel
oh yeah. the cloak is still broken, thats what i was thinking
Cloak and vampire boat. Though giving up a super unit for a 30hp bomber doesn’t seem game breaking, just powerful.
tacit pasture
I think it is aside from a few minor touches
sour beacon
I think it is aside from a few minor touches
such as?
lol
anyway if it is finished, can someone ping me
tacit pasture
buff to leech ability
sour beacon
i would like to play
obtuse orchid
is it finished?
all thats left is buffing leech and fixing the cloak
cuz the cloak still has this goofy outline here
sour beacon
cuz the cloak still has this goofy outline here
just use diff prefab if possible
obtuse orchid
just use diff prefab if possible
that means a whole new unit has to be created 😭 but yea i could do that
sour beacon
that means a whole new unit has to be created 😭 but yea i could do that
yeah well
sour beacon
cuz the cloak still has this goofy outline here
ok but can you show whole
unit
i find it so weird
obtuse orchid
why cant y'all just make cloak bigger
even when i did the original cloak outline was still sticking out
but i will try to just make it a seperate unit
and then all that will be left would be buffing leech
obtuse orchid
i am currently fixing the cloak. @tacit pasture (if possible right now) can you pls buff the sanginir leech to be 3 hp, then send the updated .dll file to me in dms?
also i changed all the custom unit and tech names in the code to have "sgn" after them to prevent it not working with other mods because i feel like "philosophy2" might be used quite often in mods so im afraid it'll cause errors and stuff
short bay
Leech also affects the vampires though, which are somewhat worse off than the other super units
grizzled forge
They are faster than other super units.
Can turn into 30HP ships
And u can use sacrifice to heal them up
obtuse orchid
They are faster than other super units.
Can turn into 30HP ships
And u can use s...
the 30hp ships are gonna get fixed
obtuse orchid
no. its a boat
it it flew, then whenever you try and put it back on land, it would stay as a boat. that would be really dumb
grizzled forge
If it flew it would not be able to turn into a boat
low tinsel
If we give the vampire fly then it cannot use roads
obtuse orchid
If it flew it would not be able to turn into a boat
vampires dont fly
they turn into bats
but bats are weaker than vampire
obtuse orchid
they turn into bats
at least, thats what i think they do
short bay
In some media yeah
Also idk how but you might be able to turn it into a unit that sees land and gives the disembark option, sinilar to how boats can do that for algae and flooded tiles
grizzled forge
the 30hp ships are gonna get fixed
How?
So they will transform into a boat with less hp?
obtuse orchid
So they will transform into a boat with less hp?
they will transform into their own boat, like giant goes into juggernaut
grizzled forge
Ooooh so a Juggernaut
grizzled forge
I kinda like being able to make 30hp rammers and bombards
obtuse orchid
Ooooh so a Juggernaut
no, a stronger rammer with leech
hasty zephyr
Boatpire
grizzled forge
“The Piranha Boat”
versed whale
obtuse orchid
a
hasty zephyr
aight
obtuse orchid
versed whale
when is shrek dracula coming to sanginir
obtuse orchid
when is shrek dracula coming to sanginir
stop
fluid walrus
versed whale
yaegeris shrek
hasty zephyr
Yaegeris baby Jesus homunculus shrek*
versed whale
glad to have a new follower of the church of the jesus homonculus
hasty zephyr
My brain oozes from my ears
obtuse orchid
idk if i want to update this tribe, if it still works
because i dont know how i would change it at all without screwing with the polyscript
and theres not much to change i dont think just leech healing is too low
i will update some of the sprites tho
versed whale
if it works its fine, if the polyscript is outdated you can learn how to maintain
useful skill
obtuse orchid
tomorrow i will update this tribe even tho theres not much to change
mostly just the houses and leech ability not healing enough
and some sprites
and giving the vampire hair
cuz rn his head looks like an egg
also give vampire a bo
boat
im thinking they can transform into "bat swarm" at will, to give them more mobility and water movement but lower attack
obtuse orchid
ok today i will start the sanginir update it will be awesome and cool
versed whale
cool
obtuse orchid
@low tinsel will be proud yes yes yep he should come back online yep fr
tacit pasture
uh sanginir's polyscript was also done when i really had no idea what i was doing so there might be some anomalies there
obtuse orchid
this tribe is so peak ❤️
obtuse orchid
do you have the source code?
i dont think so but i can copy and paste from dnspy cant i?
i know how to start a new main.cs
tacit pasture
you can, it is though not the same as source code, like comments, variable names are not saved while compilation
obtuse orchid
bat summoner doesnt work anymore rip
tacit pasture
rip yeah i remember that is 100% shitcode
obtuse orchid
shit fanatic cant even attack anymore
tacit pasture
the way i implemented fanatic stuff is very not recommended ig, there are probably better ways to do it
versed whale
what is fanatic
tacit pasture
it spawned a bat upon killing a unit
versed whale
ez
obtuse orchid
the way i implemented fanatic stuff is very not recommended ig, there are probab...
i will try
versed whale
like
tacit pasture
yeah well this is like my second polyscript mod ever so the way i coded it is uh
actually
i think
bats having the leech
is even worse
tacit pasture
like the code
obtuse orchid
like the code
it, on the other hand, still works
versed whale
it, on the other hand, still works
would disagree
obtuse orchid
he hasnt playe dthe tribe
klipi has played this tribe tho :D
maybe he is excited for the update
but prob not
obtuse orchid
sanginir aint new
tacit pasture
[HarmonyPostfix]
[HarmonyPatch(typeof (UnitDataExtensions), "GetAttack", new System.Type[] {typeof (UnitState), typeof (GameState)})]
public static void LeechAttackIncrease(
ref int __result,
UnitState unitState,
GameState gameState)
{
foreach (CommandBase command in gameState.CommandStack)
{
if (command.GetCommandType() == CommandType.Attack)
{
AttackCommand attackCommand = ((Il2CppObjectBase) command).Cast<AttackCommand>();
TileData tile1 = gameState.Map.GetTile(attackCommand.Origin);
TileData tile2 = gameState.Map.GetTile(attackCommand.Target);
if (tile1.unit != null && tile2.unit != null && (int) tile1.unit.id == (int) unitState.id && tile1.unit.HasAbility(EnumCache<UnitAbility.Type>.GetType("sanginirleech")) && (int) tile2.unit.health < (int) tile1.unit.health && unitState.coordinates == tile1.coordinates)
{
__result += 10;
break;
}
}
}
}
leech code
obtuse orchid
sanginir is my oldest mod
tacit pasture
@versed whale
obtuse orchid
```
[HarmonyPostfix]
[HarmonyPatch(typeof (UnitDataExtensions), "GetAttack",...
yes
what about the healing part of it tho where is that
wait no
hmmm?
im so confused
tacit pasture
different patch lmao
yeah well
probably better to start from scratch
and consult the script only when very necessary
obtuse orchid
ok
tacit pasture
cause this is very old
obtuse orchid
do i need 2 seperate methods for the healing and attack increase
tacit pasture
not necessarily
obtuse orchid
oh ok
tacit pasture
idk
obtuse orchid
well this is a problem for later as i am tired rn
tacit pasture
actually im a bit rusty as i havent modded in 2 months now
obtuse orchid
what about polib
tacit pasture
didnt really touch it
my last two commits (even those are rare) are purely aesthetical changes
tacit pasture
and now i literally dont have any academic obligations till the second half of february
take that wasd
obtuse orchid
hmmm what should i start with
perhaps the terrain could use changing
starting new sanginir head
hmmm
also
i discovered
head_tribename_ makes it only visible in menus
tacit pasture
The trees should be changed imo to be more isometric
obtuse orchid
and head_tribename__ makes it visible everywhere
im thinking making head_tribename_ have the head as shown above so its better in the ui
and have a copy including the gem
tacit pasture
Wow i didn't even know that
obtuse orchid
i discovered it when i screwed up rak gol
at the very start
when i saw that head_tribename_ only worked in ui
my theory isnt properly tested tho
obtuse orchid
The trees should be changed imo to be more isometric
yes i will change all the terrain
i will keep the mountain design tho i like it
versed whale
head_tribename\_ makes it only visible in menus
bro thats bs fym
obtuse orchid
wait
no i screwed up
it was head_tribename or head_tribename__
that did that
either way
one of them makes it only show up in ui
and im going to abuse that to the fullest
versed whale
probably head_tribename, thats my gut
obtuse orchid
probably head_tribename, thats my gut
yeah prob
obtuse orchid
starting new sanginir head
what do we think
comparison btw
one of them is taller and has a lighter skin tone
which is weird
versed whale
give em dracula hair
obtuse orchid
no im saving that for the mr clean vampire
obtuse orchid
comparison btw
so this is good then?
tacit pasture
Btw i always thought the gem was a drop of blood
hasty zephyr
rib
obtuse orchid
ok time to lock in
should i make sanginir or play civ tho thats the real question
yo so bats arent ableto capture villages which is weird
ok nvm they can but its mad inconsistent
tacit pasture
probably another side effect of the old+bad code
obtuse orchid
eh im not in the mood for this today
maybe i should build this tribe from scratch
but tomorrow
cuz today i feel like playing civ
hasty zephyr
damn
tacit pasture
polyscript is definitely from scratch, sprites too but you can always copy those.
obtuse orchid
polyscript is definitely from scratch, sprites too but you can always copy those...
im not copying the sprites cuz the ones i made were in paint and the ones i didnt make (most of them) are copies of rastrapies sprites
obtuse orchid
rastrapies made that one himself but all the houses are just recoloured versions of darkgir houses
tacit pasture
probably better to start from scratch
obtuse orchid
tomorrow i will start from scratch
also klipi i know u wanted to play this tribe a while ago did u ever do it
sour beacon
also klipi i know u wanted to play this tribe a while ago did u ever do it
no
i wanted to play a lot of stuff but never did
obtuse orchid
ok tonight i can do the gld and terrain for the update
tomorrow more sprites
then polyscript
should take less than a week
then i can do bugali
obtuse orchid
should i make changes to this tribe navy-wise
like maybe i was thinking
when adjacent to coast, units can spend stars to turn into bats to be able to fly across the water
instead of just using normal boats
vampire would do this for free and be able to attack while over water
ofc the regular bat unit would still exist
all the airborne units would be your naval combat
but there wouldnt be an exclusively water unit
currently drafting the new tech tree
what could replace roads
bats dont have nests do they?
they just sleep on branches
versed whale
what could replace roads
make it so if they succ blood from enemies they get movement boost
tacit pasture
i assume with the vampire castle
obtuse orchid
i assume with the vampire castle
yeah but thats not a trade thing
thats not a thing that comes after "frenzy"
wait
let me cook
vampires arent very vegan so i might remove farms but idk
i need something new to go off of
obtuse orchid
ok i got some goated ideas but its polyscript heavy
though i dont think it will be too complex i hope
obtuse orchid
anyone want me to reveal my plans for the new tech tree?
i will be very proud of it if it works
obtuse orchid
anyone want me to reveal my plans for the new tech tree?
ok well since cleigh reacted with a fire emoji i will take that as a yes
hunting > archery > spiritualism
▪️▪️> forestry > mathematics
flight > fanaticism > vampirism
▪️▪️> ritual > frenzy
organization > hunger > feast
▪️▪️▪️▪️> strategy > diplomacy
climbing > mining > smithery
▪️▪️▪️ > ceremonies > philosophy
transformation > fishing > aquatism
▪️▪️▪️▪️ > swarm > endless night
i will not describe these
or say whats in them
because suspense always makes the final product seem better than it is
obtuse orchid
how would i make transformation work
cuz i want it to work like boats
but only work when on coast
or is that a non-issue
if i dont need it to work just on coast
obtuse orchid
i will not describe these
it just occurred to me that these need polyscript and if i want help im gonna need to tell what they do
so
many of these techs improve upon existing units and abilities
vampirism unlocks the Thirst upgrade and the Empowerment upgrade. Thirst increases Leech's attack bonus to +1.5. Empowerment increases the attack of all Dagger bats by +0.5. It also unlocks Vampire Castle which is a unique improvement and its level increases by 1 for each friendly vampire you own.
frenzy unlocks the Frenzy upgrade which makes it so when a unit with Leech kills a unit, it gains +1 movement on the next turn. Hopefully, this will be stackable, as the knight replacement has leech and i would like it to reach supersonic speeds.
Hunger unlocks the Bloodthirst upgrade which means when a unit with Leech kills another unit within your territory, the city it happened in gains 1 population.
Feast unlocks the Vampiric Aura and Bloodcraze upgrades. Vampiric Aura makes Vampires give Leech to units adjacent that don't already have Leech. Bloodcraze increases Leech's healing from 4 to 6.
Transformation unlocks the ability for units to transform into Bat Swarms. Bat Swarms are fast but do not attack. They are mainly used for getting across water, and transforming back afterward.
Swarm unlocks the Savage Swarm upgrade, which grants Bat Swarms 1 attack for attacking units and reduces their cost.
Eternal Night unlocks the Eternal Swarm upgrade, which grants Bat Swarm the Bat Summoner ability, causing them to summon bats when they kill a unit. They also gain +1 attack and Leech.
obtuse orchid
i might change many of these cuz they might be too hard
like i have no idea how the vampire castle works
and i also have no idea how to give units abilities
that they dont already have
yk
and vampiric aura might be straight up impossible 🙏
is there a way to make a unit be able to upgrade to a unit and back
like a scout boat but it can manually turn back into the original unit
and for it to work on (most) units?
actually
thats a non-issue
if i just make a seperate one for each unit
obtuse orchid
i might instead make bugali first since sanginir is gonna be really complex
a lot of polyscript
bugali will be easier i think
obtuse orchid
obtuse orchid
cuz like idk how to make any of this except like leech ability i can copy and paste over
idk
im not good enough at polyscript yet for this but i really dont have any other idea for this tribe that doesnt involve just making it a normal tribe except with bat, sacrifice, and a new super unit
so
obtuse orchid
i could also do abunga
obtuse orchid
obtuse orchid
hasty zephyr
⛰️
obtuse orchid
made in paint
sour beacon
very tuff tbh
obtuse orchid
versed whale
kill me
hasty zephyr
GEOLOGY
obtuse orchid
cleighology
versed whale
bananology
hasty zephyr
wasdology
obtuse orchid
fapology
hasty zephyr
astrology
obtuse orchid
klipology
hasty zephyr
explology
obtuse orchid
fbiology
hasty zephyr
ology
versed whale
logy
obtuse orchid
log
hasty zephyr
og
versed whale
g
obtuse orchid
j
hasty zephyr
.
obtuse orchid
did i accidentally make it worse
obtuse orchid
bruhh
obtuse orchid
u dont gotta replace all sprites
the old one was made in paint
versed whale
the old one was made in paint
a sprite made with paint is only a problem if either 1: you can tell or 2: not enough blur
obtuse orchid
i can just remake it with inkscape bruh how is that bad
versed whale
i only tell yall not to use paint cuz its harder to make sprites with but if yall can pull off good looking sprites in paint go ahead
obtuse orchid
bro
versed whale
i can just remake it with inkscape bruh how is that bad
i mean if ur remaking then ok
but i dont see why
unless you wanna change the sprite
obtuse orchid
you're a dumbass, you know that? before i switched to inkscape you were practically begging me cuz my sprites looked so ass and now you're saying nope they were fine you dont need to use inkscape LOL 😂 😂
versed whale
you're a dumbass, you know that? before i switched to inkscape you were practica...
no
i told you to switch to inkscape to allow you to focus on your sprites more
there may have been good ones but most were ass
also im not saying u dont need inkscape, im saying that you dont need to remake every sprite you ever did just because it was made with paint
remake your sprites that look ass
obtuse orchid
im making it better and less complex than the old one
versed whale
yay
versed whale
ye
tacit pasture
Blur top edged
obtuse orchid
yes i will
obtuse orchid
ok i finished the gld
most of the stuff is polyscript tho
very sad
shouldnt be too complex tho
some of it
obtuse orchid
images to prove im still working on this mod
fruit
idk what to do for the animal
normally its a grey horse
but we dont use horses here
so im thinking like an prey animal
maybe a raven
i like that idea
ofc only later cuz rn i feel like doing something else
wait i dont have a roads replacement
rip
what if i made vampire castle connect all ur cities
no thats bad
unless what if i made vampire castle an improvement that u build once per city
i hate how i have to blur everything it looks so bad
mostly the field
humble girder
Field needs more contrast imo!
obtuse orchid
well tahts a task for tomorrow
also i plan to get the houses and animal and field done tomorrow
and i still hate how its blurry its ugh low quality like when my sprites were made with paint
why do the white lines even have to show up anyway
they dont appear on official sprites at all
then i can do ig unit sprites
then the dreaded polyscript
and finally monuments
then bugali
is this a pro plan guys
versed whale
what if i made vampire castle connect all ur cities
do mycelia/atoll/outpost stuff (the standard special tribe road replacement)
obtuse orchid
do mycelia/atoll/outpost stuff (the standard special tribe road replacement)
so like vampire castle that u can build in each city that connects to other vampire castles?
also that removes the headache of polyscripting so that they level up for each vampire on the map cuz that would be op
instead what i'll prob do is the vampire castle gains a level each time that city spawns a vampire
which seems much easier to make
versed whale
the mess that road/connection logic is i think its ok to do this, kinda overused but i wouldnt worry about it tbh
versed whale
dawg i just said it was the body
oh ok it was just transparent in the middle
or ig thats the tint
obtuse orchid
it is in fact the tint
ok time to make the animal
which will be a crow or a raven
hasty zephyr
make the connections building a vampire gas station with blood pumps instead of petroleum
versed whale
make the connections building a vampire gas station with blood pumps instead of ...
McBloodalds
obtuse orchid
brooo
versed whale
oh i know
obtuse orchid
McBloodalds
McDonors
versed whale
make blood shrek
obtuse orchid
why do u guys hate me so much 💔
hasty zephyr
baby shrek homunculus jesus blood station
versed whale
baby shrek homunculus jesus blood station
you forgot tall mcdonalds
banan ragebait starter kit
hasty zephyr
oof i did
versed whale
crows are so hard to make
blender
obtuse orchid
versed whale
make reference in blender
versed whale
i use inkscape
i use both (sometimes)
obtuse orchid
its so over
versed whale
blend it
hasty zephyr
berd
obtuse orchid
versed whale
beard
versed whale
bigger eye?
obtuse orchid
perhap
versed whale
idk how it will be visible from afar
tacit pasture
and blur superior edges
obtuse orchid
and blur superior edges
aaaaaaaaaa
tacit pasture
obtuse orchid
i hate blurring
versed whale
i hate blurring
bro 2 seconds
obtuse orchid
it makes it look ugly
tacit pasture
Quite the opposite
versed whale
i mean it will look better imo
tacit pasture
Removes white edge
obtuse orchid
imagine not having a crow as the tribe animal!! LOL 😂
no resources
wait there is fish
versed whale
no resources
vengir eco
obtuse orchid
ok houses time
obtuse orchid
cooking up the first house rn
hasty zephyr
SPHERE MEJCUXGSGEVWNSKGKVKCHDHFVVDDUICJ 😱
obtuse orchid
its not a sphere dawg
ahhh it sucks anyway so im not doing that
this is so hard tf
its so ass
its over
i cant do houses
hasty zephyr
it looks alright
obtuse orchid
obtuse orchid
humble girder
Just me, or is there a weird yellow glow around the windows?
obtuse orchid
there is
its called a light
but it could be red instead idk
its just that the yellow makes the red pop out more
wait guys im a cook
humble girder
but it could be red instead idk
imo the yellow seems a bit off to me, red glow might look a bit better. Just my opinion though!
obtuse orchid
imo the yellow seems a bit off to me, red glow might look a bit better. Just my ...
ok
obtuse orchid
sanginir doesnt have water routes which is bad i think
aaaaaaaaaaa
what if i did a polyscript that made it so instead of creating roads, vampire castle just connected to the capital no matter where it is
but only for that city
thats polyscript but im fine with it
hasty zephyr
The red glow instead of the shadow is a cool idea
tacit pasture
Wow yeah it gives off a sinister vibe
Also you can still ask for polyscript related help
obtuse orchid
yes i will once i start it but theres so many things
half the tech tree is polyscript abilities
the good news is i can do half of it with the old leech code and a shit ton of if brackets checking if i have a certain tech unlocked
tacit pasture
Uh old leech code might not be the best idk
obtuse orchid
the bad news is
vampiric aura
transform
savage swarm
bat summoner
obtuse orchid
Uh old leech code might not be the best idk
it worked last time
tacit pasture
I mean the attack increase part
obtuse orchid
oh
tacit pasture
Healing part is fine ig
hasty zephyr
How easy would it be to change a units abilities after it’s been trained
obtuse orchid
How easy would it be to change a units abilities after it’s been trained
i dont know but thats a key part
hasty zephyr
Oh yeah the vampiric aura
obtuse orchid
especially for eternal night
i think u can just check whether x unit has specific requirements like having a vampire adjacent and then change their unitdata to have leech but im not sure
and im definitely not sure if it shows up in the ui
i dont think it would tho
hasty zephyr
Damn
tacit pasture
How easy would it be to change a units abilities after it’s been trained
It is possible
hasty zephyr
Ooh
I was hoping that I wouldn’t have to just make a unit effect like poison or frozen for everything
Although that would be an easier path probs
tacit pasture
UnitState.HasAbility can depend on current state
hasty zephyr
I don’t know what that means but it sounds like good news!
tacit pasture
It means the current state of the game or the unit can influence the outcome of the game checking whether a unit has a certain ability
As opposed to it being purely dependent on gld
versed whale
UnitState.HasAbility can depend on current state
thats new
versed whale
wait guys im a cook
looks vile
obtuse orchid
rip
versed whale
love it
versed whale
True in mono as well
i mean yeah i just didnt expect it to work that way
but ig a simple list is better than loading from gld constantly so ig self explanatory
tacit pasture
No it stil checks from gld, but first it goes through unitstate
Quite handy actually
Gracias midjiwan
obtuse orchid
im almost done the houses only two left
then prob the units
there arent that many so its fine
tacit pasture
it is
versed whale
is this city tuff
transylvania rn
obtuse orchid
real
humble girder
is this city tuff
This looks AWESOME!
obtuse orchid
ty
unfortunately everything easy about this tribe has passed
its now time for the difficult parts of the tribe
unit sprites, monument sprites, polyscript
i almost forgot but here is capital house
obtuse orchid
guys sprites are hard
obtuse orchid
might as well just copy the old sprites at this point
at least for the bat
but the vampire is a different story cuz it looks goofy as hell
obtuse orchid
bat
obtuse orchid
versed whale
ah my beloved 4 pixels
versed whale
blur superior edges
ye
obtuse orchid
STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
versed whale
u forgor to do that with conqui aswell
obtuse orchid
im not blurring ts
obtuse orchid
u forgor to do that with conqui aswell
I KDOEAWTMQIÈY ÇQ3ykm
versed whale
im not blurring ts
love
tacit pasture
bru 😭
obtuse orchid
conquistor is fine
tacit pasture
removes that white jizz around the sprites
versed whale
conquistor is fine
would be better with blur
versed whale
why do you hate blur so much
literally
export
open raster editor thats not paint
dupe layer
blur
save
boom
obtuse orchid
itll be more annoying there
tacit pasture
bro it is 3 seconds for 200% quality increase
versed whale
bro it is 3 seconds for 200% quality increase
exactly
obtuse orchid
when i update conquistor i will do some blurring
obtuse orchid
THATS SANGINIR ITS NOT EVEN RELEASED YET
tacit pasture
.
versed whale
THATS SANGINIR ITS NOT EVEN RELEASED YET
dont act like you were gonna blur it
obtuse orchid
dont act like you were gonna blur it
i wasnt
tacit pasture
?
versed whale
wdym
versed whale
make basic shape
export to raster
carve
solved
obtuse orchid
wtf is a raster
versed whale
vector is math
tacit pasture
made in inkscape
obtuse orchid
made in inkscape
saschanaw mentioned
btw ive decided yk the misquee update and tribe variants well the variant that starts with campfire will be named saschanaw
tacit pasture
saschanaw mentioned
that's a name i havent heard in a long time actually lol, i got used to misquee
obtuse orchid
made in inkscape
also i hope u dont mind but i literally copied and pasted this to make abunga beacon
tacit pasture
abunga also mentioned?
obtuse orchid
yes
but also
that used a quetzali house
as the base
but wait
quetzali bird
feather
saschanaw
it all circles around
but also feather = mica
everything is a mica reference guys
tacit pasture
lots of feathers in those indian tribes
obtuse orchid
lots of feathers in those indian tribes
theyre not even indian dawg
luxidoor is indian
icant believe u would use a derogatory term
obtuse orchid
uh didnt know it was derogatory
maybe its cuz ur landlocked
tacit pasture
cause we call in Hungarian them Indián (which is different from Indiai = a person from India), confusing ik, blame colombus
tacit pasture
ofc with whitespace but still
lots and lots of features i did
but
neither really stuck with me
obtuse orchid
"none" would be for more than two
obtuse orchid
neither implies that?
yeah its the opposite of "both"
except the crow
no blur
wait what i meant was
no white line
tacit pasture
i mean for example: You could 'embraven' a unit, which meant that if it ever had less than 50% health, then its attack would be tripled yes, and after the attack it would become 'very injured' reducing its movement speed to 1
obtuse orchid
AWHWÈARIL
obtuse orchid
i mean for example: You could 'embraven' a unit, which meant that if it ever had...
wtf
i sure do love my 15 attack giant whenever it drops to 20 hp
and no movement penalty
tacit pasture
i think giants were exempt
i mean chieftain super unit
so only regular units, it is not that op cause they die easily
but still like a 7 hp swordsman killing a full health giant i think
oh and injured would go away after heal lol
obtuse orchid
too op i tell ya
tacit pasture
the tribe also had a dog spirit that could convert all neighboring units, yeah maybe it was a bit too op
obtuse orchid
the tribe also had a dog spirit that could convert all neighboring units, yeah m...
damn
wolf spirit might be a nerf
(misquee spirit thing)
all it does is permanently increase the attack of ur units by +0.5
tacit pasture
idk what wolf spirit did but saschanaw had one too (basically three spirits were planned)
obtuse orchid
dog and wolf?
obtuse orchid
the tribe also had a dog spirit that could convert all neighboring units, yeah m...
dog's best friend soundin ahh
tacit pasture
i think eagle was the third but that was never implemented
obtuse orchid
tacit pasture
much better
tacit pasture
lol i like how you put the burn buildings there
obtuse orchid
i didnt know where else to put it
tacit pasture
i mean it fits
obtuse orchid
i was already forced to put wealth in philosophy
warrior gets a ceremonial sacrificial ritualistic sharp dagger
versed whale
i was already forced to put wealth in philosophy
why
dude stop doing that
like the temples tech in conqui
its so poopoo
obtuse orchid
u mean like normal meditation?
obtuse orchid
i dont wanna put temples in gunpowder dawg
versed whale
that you just dump unwanted shit in
versed whale
so kind of like free spirit
free spirit shouldnt be your role model
versed whale
like you could have put forest temples in archery
versed whale
temples in arena
obtuse orchid
like you could have put forest temples in archery
the issue still remains that i dont want philosophy to come after an empty tech
obtuse orchid
temples in arena
i took pacifist out of there for a reason
versed whale
the issue still remains that i dont want philosophy to come after an empty tech
mountain temple
versed whale
i took pacifist out of there for a reason
why
obtuse orchid
out of meditation
because
arena tech
is good for early game
so is altar of peace
also meditation isnt something conquistorians do
versed whale
so? you detrimented a tech to make another tech good?
versed whale
also meditation isnt something conquistorians do
but vengir do? come on
obtuse orchid
but vengir do? come on
they are a regular tribe it doesnt count
obtuse orchid
so? you detrimented a tech to make another tech good?
also philosophy is really strong
it needs a tech before it
also
versed whale
also philosophy is really strong
how so
obtuse orchid
even if pacifist stayed in meditation
the issue would still be
the philosophy tech
has a bad tech before it
nothing would change
obtuse orchid
dude stop doing that
also the alternative is having mind benders and i never want you guys to experience seeing a crow rider
i dont want mind benders in this tribe
versed whale
i dont want mind benders in this tribe
l take
obtuse orchid
w take
we have fanatics
also
nobody no matter how hypnotized
wants to join a cult of bloodsucking vampires
obtuse orchid
also
versed whale
no convert unit
versed whale
is ass
versed whale
stop making excuses just give us crow riders bro
obtuse orchid
NOOOOO
versed whale
every tribe has convert unit
obtuse orchid
who cares
versed whale
i do
obtuse orchid
who actively uses them other than for the healing anyway
except u
cuz ur opinions are wack
tacit pasture
Not every tribe needs conversion
obtuse orchid
first rak gol should sell their metal for 20 stars t0
obtuse orchid
and ofc not get veteran in 2 kills cuz the ui calls it a non-barbaric thing
versed whale
first rak gol should sell their metal for 20 stars t0
3 dude
versed whale
bro isnt that mod broken af?
tacit pasture
uh
versed whale
isnt it like 178383922 years old?
tacit pasture
Haven't checked in a while
But it's gld only
And if it broke I probably fixed it for myself lol
versed whale
yh i mean banan fucked up osama SOMEHOW so idk
tacit pasture
I mean gld only breaks if something is changed, and that usually takes 1 sec to fix
So I ain't gonna wait for updates lol
I guess it's a need to be checked since I can't remember
versed whale
can u add to shit?
tacit pasture
Not today
versed whale
if i break my 1.5 year bio 5 streak imma be mad
tacit pasture
Sleep then
versed whale
i wanna go till at least facultation
versed whale
Sleep then
fr