Sanginir Tribe

[sour beacon]

as i understand

but i dont know how to get to them

[obtuse orchid]

fanatic icon fixed

so does anyone know how to actually fix this problem, if its not polyscript?

[humble girder]

You mean the little info button right

[obtuse orchid]

yeah

[humble girder]

Or am I mistaken

[obtuse orchid]

the info button is just way off where its supposed to be

[humble girder]

I wonder if that’s something you can edit the pivot of somehow, but I wouldn’t know

[humble girder]

I don’t remember what version of this tribe I have but I remember it being a issue with the vampire castle too

[obtuse orchid]

its something with the tribe

cuz its on all the improvements

but none of the improvements of the other tribes

its not a major thing tho

[humble girder]

I wish I knew more so I could help you but at the moment I don’t so I wish you luck on finding answers

[obtuse orchid]

🪦

[karmic harbor]

sprites issue ig

[obtuse orchid]

hold on i have an idea

[fluid walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-monster-vs-alien-i-have-an-idea-gif-3241268455232627291

[obtuse orchid]

can i just delete these? they'll never be used

yk what? im not gonna risk it. i'll let hawkfrost deal with that cuz he knows what he's doing

[obtuse orchid]

i cant fix vampire castle, at least not with what m doing rn

[humble girder]

I was only informing you so you knew about it, it’s all good

Minor issues aside the tribe is really cool

[obtuse orchid]

:)

[humble girder]

If I had one suggestion though, again I use an earlier version of the mod but when I was playing with it I noticed that the tribe color doesn’t really affect any of the units, they could be Imperius Blue or Xin-Xi Red and it wouldn’t make a difference for the units

[obtuse orchid]

yeah. idk what to do about that

[humble girder]

Something to do with a tint sprite?

[obtuse orchid]

there is a tint sprite

[obtuse orchid]

we dont have transparent areas, sadly

[humble girder]

Art program not support transparency? Or?

[obtuse orchid]

i didnt make the art, shalone did

but shalone is currently not online

and wont be online for a while

[humble girder]

Fair enough. Well yeah that would be my only suggestion but everything else is great

Fun tribe

[karmic harbor]

||btw there used to be a parameter like alphaIsTransparency||

[obtuse orchid]

alright. my idea is done. lets see if any chaos happens

im a fucking genius (pardon my language)

not only did i fix the icon issue, i also fixed the knight andthe cloaks

[karmic harbor]

BECAUSE alpha is just a channel and you can store ANY info in it

(thats how unity works)

[obtuse orchid]

now i need to realign everything

rip

[obtuse orchid]

cloak is fixed, but for some reason the head is way off now.

[humble girder]

Honestly I think the head in the tech tree, game stats etc isn't that big of a deal haha

[obtuse orchid]

fair enough

[humble girder]

I don't think there's a good way to fix it from what I've been told

Glad you're figuring stuff out though

[obtuse orchid]

:)

[tacit pasture]

sanginir is pretty fun to play against. A bat of theirs just zoomed into my hinterlands and took an undefended city :D

[obtuse orchid]

🪦

[tacit pasture]

it's good that there are more challenging tribes

[obtuse orchid]

at least its not cymanti

[tacit pasture]

I don't own cymanti. Should I buy it? Is it fun to play against/with?

[obtuse orchid]

well, its kinda like sanginir in terms of strength, however, instead of bats, its their whole army that is strong

[tacit pasture]

I usually wait for those sales to save like 1 euro

[obtuse orchid]

knight fixed!

ok so sanginir is a bit tall

but its alright

[tacit pasture]

well i guess so with its 5 pop-giving vampire castle

[obtuse orchid]

no like all of the units are a bit taller

and i cant make them shorter without it looking weird

[tacit pasture]

oh 😅

[tacit pasture]

I mean it makes sense, vampires are usually depicted as tall

[obtuse orchid]

also, why isnt there a head outline?

[tacit pasture]

you need to add one universal head outline

let me find how its called

[obtuse orchid]

for some reason there isnt one. and idk how to implement it

if i make one

[tacit pasture]

here's the xiangluan mod's one

[obtuse orchid]

we dont have one 🪦

I've thought of a boat for the vampire!

an empowered rammer with leech

it could have stats like
⚔️ 5
🛡️ 3
💨 3
Dash, Leech

[obtuse orchid]

ok. i finished aligning everything, and i got rid of the icon button issue.

i also fixed the knights and cloaks

shoot. it exceeds the file size limit

nvm. i did one of the nitro quests

heres the file

tell me if anything is wrong

[fringe spruce]

you can upload large files to Google drive or mediafire

[obtuse orchid]

its too late

i got the nitro quest

i can upload however large i want

[low tinsel]

Thank you so much for the polyscript!! Hopefully I’ll get a chance to check it out tomorrow

[obtuse orchid]

i didnt do any polyscript

i fixed icons, outlines, and the knight & cloak

and re-aligned stuff, like some of the houses which were too big

i also added more language to the tribe

if possible, once you're done the polyscript, can you put it with the latest update? thanks :)

[tacit pasture]

I did the polyscript but it's not done yet, I'll finish the vampcastles and bat spawning on kill probably tomorrow

[obtuse orchid]

k

[tacit pasture]

Yup

[obtuse orchid]

rip

if possible can that be fixed with polyscript?

cuz if i fix it with the sprites,json, it'll affect all the in-game units

[elfin halo]

@obtuse orchid @low tinsel can y'all help me fix my Zombuti sprite outlines when I finish coding the tech tree? I barely have time to do a little JSON and I can't figure out the outlines for the life of me 😢

[obtuse orchid]

ok

as long as you have a sprites.json with all the outlines already there i should be able to do something

[elfin halo]

I have everything. Just need to finish the tech tree and then I'll send the files over in a GitHub or Google Drive. Thanks 🙏🏾

[obtuse orchid]

k 👍

[obtuse orchid]

the field tiles are a little too big. fapingvin, once you put the polyscript in here as well, can you go to the sprites.json, and increase the pixels per unit of the field to 500? thanks

[tacit pasture]

sure

I won't touch anything for at least 12 hours though

[obtuse orchid]

thats alright

wait. i may have found the issue with the head

[low tinsel]

Yeah it should just be head_sanginir in the sprites file, right?

[obtuse orchid]

yes. but its not cuz of just the head; it was the whole body that was a bit too high

but now i've fixedit

so i'll upload the newest and improvedest polymod file

[obtuse orchid]

dont use the other one. use this one

[tacit pasture]

Okay take your time and make as many changes as you want :D When I wake up and get home I'll use the latest one I find

[obtuse orchid]

:) k

[obtuse orchid]

alright. this is the latest update as of right now

[low tinsel]

Are you updating the manifest? 🙂

Just asking because I always forget lol

[obtuse orchid]

wdym?

[obtuse orchid]

tell me if theres any visual bugs here, aside from fanatic sprite, that i could fix

[low tinsel]

Manifest.json gives the mod version. I think it’s at 1.1 right now, if you are doing sprite patches probably change it to 1.1.1 or something like that. Once we get all the polymod working it can probably be 2.0

[obtuse orchid]

ok

[tacit pasture]

are you sure this is the newest? It seems to lack the .dll file and the necessary structures for polyscript I set up in patch.json. Or maybe patch and localization got overwritten?

[obtuse orchid]

i didnt download your file here #1362225960585400450 message
cuz i had already put a lot of work into the earlier versions. i hope thats not too much trouble to add the .dll file and stuff back 🪦

[low tinsel]

What did you modify? If it was just the sprites file you should just be able to copy and rewrite the sprites file from Fapingvin's update, right?

[obtuse orchid]

no, cuz i had to modify all ofthe sprites. on most of them, there was a bunch of empty space around the edges that i fixed, and i also modified the cloak sprite to fix it

so if i rewrite the sprites file and get all the updated sprites, then yes i could

[low tinsel]

Okay I see

I would just drag and drop then when the notification pops up telling you there are files with the same name, you would just overwrite them

Fapingvin taught me how to read .dll files btw, so I have a tiny bit of knowledge there now 🙂

Not completely clueless

[obtuse orchid]

k

mb

btw. cloak is reallytall now

i cant really fix it cuz the glow wont move, andi cant move the tint without affecting all the other units

[obtuse orchid]

but it doesnt change colors

does it have to be white?

lemme try something

that works. but its awful weird

why is the tint meant to be the robes is my question

why cant it just be the grey part on the inside here

and we can just make the body stretch down longer, but have the tint be the middle part. that way, they'll still have the grey robes, and will have their tribe color in the center

[obtuse orchid]

also, for the vampire boat, i've come up with 3 possibilities, if no one objects:
an empowered Scout that has the Fanatic's ability to summon bats on kill
an empowered Rammer that has Leech
a bat swarm that has leech and perhaps some other stats that we can figure out later

yall can decide which one you like best

[low tinsel]

What if you just make the tint sprite the grey there?

[obtuse orchid]

thats what i was thinking, but we would have to stretch the whole body down then, because then they'll be too short

[obtuse orchid]

and we cant have the grey in the center exist in the body sprite cuz, as seen here, it will overlap

[low tinsel]

I see.

[obtuse orchid]

i could try to make something happen later, im kind of busy rightnow

[low tinsel]

I'll try to merge this file with Fapingvin's file

So we can have a fully updated version

[obtuse orchid]

k

[low tinsel]

I don't think the Bat Swarm makes much sense since it is a water unit. Bat Swarm would have fly

[obtuse orchid]

yeah but that means no more vampire

[low tinsel]

Sorry, I mean thematically Bat Swarm should have fly. But turning a Vampire into a flying unit in a port doesn't make sense

[obtuse orchid]

yeah, makes sense

[low tinsel]

Should I change leech to a different set number for now? Maybe 3?

[obtuse orchid]

sure

[low tinsel]

Because the bat is the main one using leech and nothing will cost less than that except the dagger

heal 10 might be overpowered with the vampire

[obtuse orchid]

while you're there, maybe nef the bat's stats now. 1.5 attack and 1 defense should do it with leech, perhaps

[obtuse orchid]

not really, if we plan on nerfing it once giving it leech

well, maybe. but what if leech healed for a % of damage dealt?

50%, perhaps?

[low tinsel]

That could maybe work

[hazy epoch]

Vampires die if they touch die running water so navy should be weak.

[obtuse orchid]

if they're in a boat, they dont touch water

[hazy epoch]

Yes but I don’t think they would be the best at it

[obtuse orchid]

:|

[low tinsel]

nvm I don't know how to change leech easily

We'll let fapingvin do it once he is ready

What do you want me to fix?

todo @low tinsel:

• sacrifice sprite

[obtuse orchid]

i think thats pretty much all. ill try to fix the tint, if you still want me to fix that

[low tinsel]

Okay sounds good!

Fix which tint?

Oh I could also try to make the sacrifice sprite work

[obtuse orchid]

#1362225960585400450 message. so it makes it show the tribe color

[low tinsel]

Okay yes

Fanatic works!

Outline needs adjustment

[obtuse orchid]

im pretty sure there isnt even an outline yet. let me make one for you

[low tinsel]

I made one

but it isn't listed in sprites.json

You know how to do that?

[obtuse orchid]

no

[low tinsel]

Just look for the name of the file (in this case boat_fanatic_outline__) and use that for the name in the sprites.json

From there just specify pixelsPerUnit and Pivot

[obtuse orchid]

ok

[low tinsel]

really easy just look at the other examples

https://github.com/Josiahdavid/Polytopia-mods/blob/main/sanginir (in progress) .polymod
This is the most updated (work in progress) we have so far

If you've done any work since you posted your file just replace it with whatever you modified

just leave the patch and .dll alone and you should be fine 🙂

k I'm going to go for now hopefully later I'll figure out the sacrifice icon (I think Toporzol has an example I can look at for that)

[obtuse orchid]

k

[brazen zephyr]

Maybe you could just have the vampire turn into a bat swarm when it tries to go onto water, though it might be easier to do coding wise if they have to use a port. Then it turns back to a vampire when disembarking. Just an idea

[obtuse orchid]

can i at least make ritual unlock disband as well?

never mind!!! it works!!!!

someone go find what the first sanginir bot's name is

i will make them be called dracula

for some reason, when my 10 hp bat hit an 8 hp defender, it shouldve killed it cuz 2+1 attack = 3, which wouldve killed it, but it didnt, andit also didnt heal

also, is it possible to make it show leech healing whenever it gets triggered? like, show the recover animation

[obtuse orchid]

got it

😎

at least i can do something right

probably what i'll do next is fix the body and tint of the sanginir sprites. and maybe if we had a bat tint as well, for the wings

[obtuse orchid]

its weird sometimes, cuz sometimes it works, and others it doesnt

[obtuse orchid]

and maybe give the dagger bats and vampires leech

[obtuse orchid]

leech also heals when getting attacked for some reason

[obtuse orchid]

oh, we do have a bat tint, just its really tiny. ill use that

[low tinsel]

patch.json -> techData -> ritual ->
ability_unlocks: [
sacrifice,
disband
]

[obtuse orchid]

sacrifice is in improvements by the way

[low tinsel]

Oh you're right

[obtuse orchid]

it does... 1 extra damage... not 1 extra attack

i mean going from 2 attack strength to 3

not 2 attack strength + one damage

[low tinsel]

simply add line 68

[obtuse orchid]

ye. i did that

[low tinsel]

okay awesome

so it works?

[low tinsel]

Oh that could be

[low tinsel]

how much damage did it do?

I'm planning on hopefully starting to make a video on how to mod polytopia next week. Would this be helpful for you?

[low tinsel]

If it was left a 2hp then I believe your theory is correct

Got it working!

[obtuse orchid]

i dont remember 😭

but we can ask fapingvin

[obtuse orchid]

ok. i got it working. idk if i shouldmake it a darker version of the tribe color tho cuz its kinda flashy

me actually being able to help is crazy 🪦

but now i must re-fix the cloak

honestly, im contemplating just having a normal looking cloak

[low tinsel]

Yeah honestly might be a good idea

[obtuse orchid]

i realized the shield blocks up the body tint, so maybe i should make a tinted part for the shield

[low tinsel]

I’m curious lol would you use this?

If not that’s fine

[obtuse orchid]

i probably would tbh. i have a few tribes i wanna make

[low tinsel]

Awesome! Maybe I’ll send it to you first once it’s done to see if I should improve anything 🙂

[obtuse orchid]

btw. i almost got the body tint working. i will show you if this attempt its aligned correctly

yeeee

i see its a bit off

let me fix that

[obtuse orchid]

what do you think?

lets goo. the body tint works

now, if i want a normal cloak, do i just delete all the cloak sprites and delete the cloak in the sprites.json?

whoops

help how do i make the cloak normal again

[low tinsel]

❤️

[obtuse orchid]

please hawkfrost, i dont know how to make the cloak normal

i require your aid

[low tinsel]

This is with all the cloak sprites deleted?

[obtuse orchid]

yes

it gives me a body

im fine with the body being that

but it has no head

[low tinsel]

Hmm yes

[obtuse orchid]

this is the first daggers all over again

[low tinsel]

How about we bring the old daggers back and then they are the same!

😂

[obtuse orchid]

🪦

^ me

[low tinsel]

I don’t know how to fix that off the top of my head

It might just have to stay weird until I get a chance to look at it closer

[obtuse orchid]

ok

fair enough

[low tinsel]

Hopefully I can figure it out

[obtuse orchid]

now ill make the bat tints, and the shield tint

or wait, i have an idea

[low tinsel]

I can’t even make tint 😂

[obtuse orchid]

the shield is already there, just underneath the original sprite

all i have to do is get rid of the top one, but keep the gem in the middle

let em try that

[low tinsel]

I could figure it out, but you’re better than me with that lol

[obtuse orchid]

me

[low tinsel]

So todo for me:

• cloak

[obtuse orchid]

thats pretty much it lol

also rate the new shield

trust me itll work

it kinda works

but the shield has no shading

i will fix that

[low tinsel]

With shading that would look epic!

[obtuse orchid]

almost got it!

ill be back in an hour, and i'll upload the next update

[obtuse orchid]

wait no, ill do the bats first

so more like an hour and a half

im confused tho. the fanatic will always be grey

oh, and by the way 😏 @tacit pasture

ok bye bye

[low tinsel]

Oh yeah, that’s because we couldn’t get the mundane prefab to work. You could copy your body_tint_sanginir__ file and rename the copy to fanatic_tint__ that should work

[obtuse orchid]

k

i'll have to redo the body of the fanatic tho since its not the updated one

it should be ready in around 30-45 minutes then

one down, two to go

[low tinsel]

Oh that’s sick

[obtuse orchid]

:)

i did it with the dagger bat too. im fixing up the fanatic now

[obtuse orchid]

wouldnt it be boat_tint_fanatic__?

[low tinsel]

Yep you’re right lol

Good catch

[obtuse orchid]

to upload the polymod to github i have to make a new repository? i just got github like 10 min ago lol

fanatic complete

everything should be done

https://github.com/Bananique-0/sanginir does this link work?

or does it have to be public

ok well. im off to bed. let me know ifit works tomorrow

[low tinsel]

Yeah I think it needs to be public

That’s all I get

[tacit pasture]

heal 10 is 1 health regained in the cpp code. Health, attack and things like that are multiplied by 10

[tacit pasture]

probably yeah

[tacit pasture]

oops my bad, I'll fix that

[tacit pasture]

yes, should it be just simply +1 damage and not attack?

[tacit pasture]

nice

[tacit pasture]

got the leech ability to work now correctly. previously it was buggy, not always giving health and stuff. It doesn't exactly show the healing value like how you would see it when you heal a unit, but it does that little circle. Idk if I can even make the number appear. Next I'm gonna look into having it modify the damage and not attack

[tacit pasture]

everything works now with leech, attack damage is directly increased by just 1 (and not attack strength). I'll send the cs files to @low tinsel

[low tinsel]

No, we were wanting to change the attack stat for that attack. Sorry that was unclear

I think so long as leech is specified in the ability the number doesn’t matter too much

[low tinsel]

@obtuse orchid In my opinion leech should only heal the unit
a) Every time the unit attacks or
b) Every time the unit kills an enemy

Which one we choose will change the amount of hp healed

currently the unit heals whenever it attacks an enemy with less hp than it, correct?

[tacit pasture]

Yes

[obtuse orchid]

i think on every attack works

[obtuse orchid]

https://github.com/Bananique-0/Sanginir-

try this one

[obtuse orchid]

no, +1 attack strength was the intention, but it just didnt work sometimes. thats why i wondered if you had made it just a flat +1 damage

[tacit pasture]

Oh it seems like I misunderstood

it was +1 attack to begin with but now it's flat +1 damage

[obtuse orchid]

mb

[tacit pasture]

indeed

[obtuse orchid]

for some reason, after attacking, and escaping, the bat heals again

[tacit pasture]

Is this with the updated polyscript?

[obtuse orchid]

no its with the old one

did u upload the new one?

[tacit pasture]

Well I sent it to Hawkfrost

[obtuse orchid]

oh. then probably no, im not using it

[obtuse orchid]

ppl actually picked bat swarm?

[tacit pasture]

huh

[obtuse orchid]

rip

[tacit pasture]

I think the wording was poor:
Basically here are two vanilla stuff or a brand new shiny swarm of bats

[obtuse orchid]

fair enough

damn... i was not smart about this

but we have green bats at least

[tacit pasture]

It's okay. (||Psst, you're the modder, you make your mod how you want||)

[obtuse orchid]

||im not the one modding. hawkfrost is. all i do is fix the sprites||

[tacit pasture]

(||ok well then you two's agreement lol||)

[obtuse orchid]

probably wasnt a good idea to make it a public poll. half the voters probably dont play the tribe

[tacit pasture]

I can build the polyscript for you too btw if Hawkfrost doesn't return and you want to test it right now

And I forgot to vote too lol 😖

[obtuse orchid]

also. my bat healed either 3 hp or back to full hp when it killed an archer with a city with walls

[tacit pasture]

That polyscript is faulty the old one

[obtuse orchid]

yea. but im still listing bugs in case you didnt fix them in the new one

[tacit pasture]

.
(Well, not actually build, give you the sohrce code but let's discuss that in DMs)

[obtuse orchid]

i can wait for hawkfrost. i have to go to town tonight anyway, i wont have time

[tacit pasture]

Ok, I'm gonna sleep soon, he said he's gonna take a look at it.

[obtuse orchid]

k

[sour beacon]

hawktuah

[obtuse orchid]

also here's the shield tint on the defenders

[obtuse orchid]

sup johnklipi

[obtuse orchid]

it looks decent imo.

[tacit pasture]

bruh

[obtuse orchid]

but it might have a bit too much contrast

[tacit pasture]

Yeah maybe lighten it a bit. Is the neon green the tribe color?

[obtuse orchid]

yes

but shading it was so tedious 🪦

[tacit pasture]

I guess you can't darken that

[tacit pasture]

I admire people who can do sprites with polymod. I go mad over pivoting and having to restart several times

[obtuse orchid]

no, shading it was tedious because i used ms paint to do it

if i had literally any other art website i wouldve been fine

[tacit pasture]

...why?

[obtuse orchid]

cuz im the most familiar with paint

i made the updated body and tint with it, and it turned out great

took me like 10 minutes

[tacit pasture]

I guess that makes sense

Do the program you like using

[obtuse orchid]

i know! ill jsut make the other side a bit darker

[obtuse orchid]

turned it down a bit

also. the bat just healed randomly at the end of a turn.

IT HAPPENED

[low tinsel]

Works!

[low tinsel]

I'm pretty busy so I think I'm not going to help too much this week. Next week I should be able to fix whatever you guys like. If you make a list I'll do it then

[obtuse orchid]

ok

well, i think the cloak is all

[low tinsel]

for now lol

[obtuse orchid]

is it ok if i change the terrain a bit to make it a bit more different from the forests?

[low tinsel]

Go for it!

[obtuse orchid]

also, @tacit pasture , why didnt you use the updated one? all the sprites here are the outdated ones that arent fixed

i thought u said u would

[obtuse orchid]

now we gotta figure out the stats for this thing, and maybe i can make a sprite for it

any ideas?

[tacit pasture]

The github page was private and it didn't matter while I was not introducing anything new

[tacit pasture]

Bat spawning on unit killed now works (idk what the ability name was). I added the ability to bats only for testing purposes (also ignore the messages at the top, I just use notifications instead of logs for debugging)

the ability should be named batonkill in the patch.json (I assume the vampire gets this)

[obtuse orchid]

the fanatic gets this ability, the vampire gets leech

[obtuse orchid]

mb

[tacit pasture]

Ok, leech is still a bit buggy, even with all those fixes. It works like 95% of the time and I literally have no idea why it doesn't sometimes. I assume it's how the game handles attacks, I'll be looking into that and then I'll update the dlls. Y'all can continue with other parts of the mod until then, I'll merge the patch.json when I'm ready

[obtuse orchid]

ok

so is there anything i need to do rn?

once the next update is out, i'll add in the defender shading improvement

[obtuse orchid]

who's gonna combine this update with the new polyscript tho? cuz i can do it if no one else is

[tacit pasture]

Which new polyscript?

[obtuse orchid]

well, the one you're working on right now

once you finish it

[tacit pasture]

I can combine it

[obtuse orchid]

we add that to the update i put on github

[obtuse orchid]

k. thanks :D

[tacit pasture]

I'll figure out vampire castles as well. What else do I need?

Have leech working almost
Bats spawning hopefully every time
Sacrifices

[obtuse orchid]

well, is it possible to make the vampire turn into a special unit (bat swarm) when it goes on water, and turns back to normal when it goes back on land?

i'll make those sprites soon

the bat swarm is basically just the juggernaut for the vampire. i also thought of a couple stats

[tacit pasture]

Um sure I'll look into it. Though I think polymod 1.2 will have that option in gld patching

[obtuse orchid]

maybe it could have 2.5 attack, 3 defense, 2 movement, dash, leech, stomp, and maybe the bat spawning ability if its weak

[sour beacon]

y

[tacit pasture]

Are vamp castles updated instantly like after getting a new vampire or losing one, or are they more passive-vibe like temples

[obtuse orchid]

once you get a new vampire, it upgrades, and if you lose one, it goes down by 1 level

[tacit pasture]

Hmm okay

[obtuse orchid]

if its too complicated, you can make it on spawn or on death

[tacit pasture]

By temples I meant updating like every turn

But not instantly

[obtuse orchid]

thats what it is already, no?

[tacit pasture]

I mean updating its level based on the num of vampires

[obtuse orchid]

oh

[tacit pasture]

So functionally still the same it's just the delay

[obtuse orchid]

maybe just every turn

[tacit pasture]

Ok I think that's easier than tracking down train/kill/convert actions

[obtuse orchid]

wait i still have nitro?

[tacit pasture]

Plus it would slow down people trying to cheese it somehow

[tacit pasture]

Well you only got it not so long ago

[obtuse orchid]

i thought it was just for one day, and its been like 3

cuz i only completed a quest

[tacit pasture]

Idk how discord works at this point, I ain't gonna follow news

[obtuse orchid]

fair enough

[tacit pasture]

Tbh didn't even know dc had quests now

Is it all software's fate that in a desperate attempt to stay relevant their constant changes and updates actually make the product worse?

[obtuse orchid]

idk

[tacit pasture]

got vampire castles to work

[fluid walrus]

Nice

[obtuse orchid]

btw. if its not already set to that, please change the language of sanginir:
"tra,nia,dor,nor,va,nus,von ,ba,sor,ron,tor,dra,cula,an,cu,da,ra,sa,nir,ang,la"

[tacit pasture]

I'll do that when I merge

[obtuse orchid]

k

[tacit pasture]

which I might do soon, but for the love of god I can't figure out why the leech is buggy

maybe i'm scizophrenic at this point

[obtuse orchid]

ask johnklipi or something, he might know

[tacit pasture]

nah, I'll figure it out, I'm sure it's some minor flaw in my masterful genius design

or I'll rewrite the whole leech, it would probably be better at this point

[obtuse orchid]

🪦

[tacit pasture]

I have a bad habit of copying the exact code I am supposed to rewrite, like
"Yeah I did this part good so why should I write it again"
"Yeah this part made sense too"
"Fuck this is the exact same code"

[obtuse orchid]

😭

[obtuse orchid]

reminder for myself when i get the updated polymod:
center the fanatic sprite
add some stuff to the language cuz rn i have 3 cities with the same name

[tacit pasture]

May I add that the vampire castle, if levelled up, starts to float atop the mountain

[obtuse orchid]

also raise the terrain a bit cuz its slightly lower than everyone else's

[obtuse orchid]

thats true

i'll have to lower it on the higher levels

[tacit pasture]

Since castle can only be built on mountains it could also have a foundation that looks good on a mountain. I'll do a sketch though I'm on my phone

[obtuse orchid]

k

[tacit pasture]

This might be difficult to align with the mountain sprite so tell me bravely if it's a stupid idea

If you even understand my sketch

I should go to sleep rather

[obtuse orchid]

i see what you mean

i could probably cook someithng up... on... microsoft paint...

[tacit pasture]

actually would this even work with different mountain sprites?

[low tinsel]

I don’t think so

That’s a good point

[obtuse orchid]

valid point

so what i can do is as the levels go on, the vampire castle can eventually just take up the whole mountain or something

by moving it downward ever so slightly

i can add that to my to-do list once the polyscript is done

whats left to that, by the way?

also, i'd like for leech to get a buff once its fixed. maybe if it healed 4 hp? 4 seems like the default healing number

[obtuse orchid]

also for this, if its possible, maybe it could spawn the dagger bats instead, since they already have independent, and would survive a turn being spawned due to them having 2 defense. idk, just a thought

[tacit pasture]

ok

Where is the latest version? I'll merge

[obtuse orchid]

hold on

[tacit pasture]

is dagger2 the dagger bat?

[low tinsel]

Yes

[obtuse orchid]

https://github.com/Bananique-0/Sanginir- i think this should be the updated one

if there isnt a body tint, tell me

[low tinsel]

I can merge them later today

[obtuse orchid]

fapingvin is doing that

[low tinsel]

Then we should have a fully working tribe, correct?

[obtuse orchid]

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[obtuse orchid]

i think so, just a few odd things to fix here and there, like the vampire castle looking like its floating

[low tinsel]

Oh right

[obtuse orchid]

and i might update a few of the sprites, and remove the black (switching it to dark grey) off the sanginir, cuz it looks weird in the ui

then it should be ready for release

:D

thanks a lot guys

[obtuse orchid]

so all the polyscript's done?

:)

[tacit pasture]

actually, there is a minor complication with summoner, I'll be fixing that tomorrow

wait, no it actually works

huh

[obtuse orchid]

lol

[tacit pasture]

@low tinsel will be merging

[obtuse orchid]

ok

[low tinsel]

I’ll merge when I get off work in like 6 hours or so

[low tinsel]

@obtuse orchid Now. Do we want to post the alpha file for everyone to see, or only give it to people who ask for it like Kspark did?

I'll test it before posting either way

[obtuse orchid]

well, if we make it public, doesnt it need to get verified before ppl can download it, since it has polyscript?

[low tinsel]

[obtuse orchid]

ok, although before you publish it, can you center the fanatic sprite and fix the vampire castle so it no longer looks like its floating, please?

i think thats all that there was left

[low tinsel]

Okay sure. Or you could do that and send me the updates sprites file, either way

[obtuse orchid]

alright, i can do that :)

[low tinsel]

Thanks 🙂

Time to go boyzzz lol

[obtuse orchid]

WAIT

we dont even have the vampire swarm yet

[low tinsel]

I'm going to figure out what mods I like

[obtuse orchid]

the bat swarm i mean

[low tinsel]

Oh you're right

[obtuse orchid]

rip

[low tinsel]

todo:

• vampire boat (bat swarm when it moves onto water)
• fix cloak sprite
• "dagger" to "Daggerbat"

[obtuse orchid]

ok. i figured, it'll take too long to make the bat swarm sprite

i have a plan

@little lagoon oi. can we use your rammer sprite from civitae please?

(im gonna re-color it, and we can use that to make an empowered rammer)

stats i thought of on the spot:
❤️ 30
🛡️ 3
⚔️ 3
💨 3
Leech, Dash, Stomp

[low tinsel]

So a 30hp rammer with leech and stomp

Okay

Yeah that sounds good

[obtuse orchid]

k. now we wait for rastrapies to respond

the mod should be done tomorrow if you're online

and know how to implement that

[low tinsel]

I... probably won't be. At least not for long

Maybe some of Monday

We'll see

[obtuse orchid]

oh 🪦

maybe you know how to do it and can tell me now?

[low tinsel]

Do what sorry?

Oh make the boat thing

[obtuse orchid]

yes

[low tinsel]

hmm I think it requires polymod

to turn into it when it enters a port

[obtuse orchid]

fapingvin can probably make it then

we'll see

[low tinsel]

I can make the boat just fine

Daggerbats should have:
10hp
2 defense
1 movement
1 range
1 attack?
dash, surprise, independent, static, escape, leech, and fly?

[obtuse orchid]

1.5 attack maybe

1 attack is really weak

[low tinsel]

Too op because leech remember?

extra attack?

[obtuse orchid]

oh wait you're right

yes, 1 attack then

[low tinsel]

unless we take off escape or something

[obtuse orchid]

maybe give regular bats 1.5 attack

[low tinsel]

"bat": {
"health": 100,
"defence": 15,
"movement": 2,
"range": 1,
"attack": 15,
"cost": 3,
"unitAbilities": [
"dash",
"escape",
"fly",
"sanginirleech"
],
"weapon": 7,
"promotionLimit": 3,
"idx": -1,
"prefab": "transportship"
},

"dagger2": {
"health": 100,
"defence": 20,
"movement": 1,
"range": 1,
"attack": 10,
"cost": 2,
"hidden": true,
"unitAbilities": [
"dash",
"surprise",
"independent",
"static",
"escape",
"sanginirleech",
"fly"
],
"weapon": 13,
"promotionLimit": 0,
"prefab": "transportship",
"idx": -1
},

That's what I have so far

"vampire": {
"health": 300,
"defence": 30,
"movement": 2,
"range": 1,
"attack": 40,
"cost": 10,
"unitAbilities": [
"dash",
"land",
"sanginirleech"
],
"weapon": 7,
"promotionLimit": 0,
"idx": -1,
"hidden": true,
"prefab": "transportship"
},

"vampireboat": {
"health": 100,
"movement": 3,
"range": 1,
"defence": 30,
"attack": 30,
"cost": 10,
"hidden": true,
"unitAbilities": [
"dash",
"swim",
"carry",
"water",
"sanginirleech",
"stomp",
"static"
],
"weapon": 16,
"promotionLimit": 0,
"idx": 44
}

[obtuse orchid]

maybe 3 attack, cuz of leech practically always being active

[obtuse orchid]

now that im thinking about it, this has leech and stomp. maybe 2.5 attack

[low tinsel]

dagger changed:
-1 attack
escape
leech
fly

[obtuse orchid]

also, i did a draft for the boat that we can implement if rastrapies accept

[low tinsel]

3.5?

[obtuse orchid]

yeah, that works

[obtuse orchid]

idk if i should replace the oars with something else

[low tinsel]

It looks awesome rn

I don't know

[obtuse orchid]

k

[low tinsel]

You think this is balanced?

[obtuse orchid]

1.5 defense tho?

[low tinsel]

Oh

no

we should change that

[obtuse orchid]

i think so

[low tinsel]

And fanatic

"fanatic": {
"health": 100,
"defence": 20,
"movement": 1,
"range": 2,
"attack": 30,
"cost": 5,
"unitAbilities": [
"dash",
"land",
"batonkill"
],
"weapon": 8,
"promotionLimit": 3,
"idx": -1,
"prefab": "transportship"
},

[obtuse orchid]

dash might be too strong tho. it makes it just a stronger archer

[low tinsel]

It spawns 1 daggerbat on kill, correct?

[obtuse orchid]

yes

[low tinsel]

k

[obtuse orchid]

so maybe no dash

also... is there a way to rename the ability? maybe if it was called "summon" or something

[low tinsel]

no dash 3.5 attack maybe?

[obtuse orchid]

3.5 attack makes it one shot warriors with no defense

[low tinsel]

I'm pretty sure this isn't what it shows on screen.

[obtuse orchid]

oh

what does it show?

[low tinsel]

right. 5 stars... but it's so fragile. It needs to be right up at the front lines in order to do anything, and it might just die then

[obtuse orchid]

2 defense is quite a bit, and enough to tank

[low tinsel]

Tank 1 hit

[obtuse orchid]

fair

[low tinsel]

two with defence bonus

[obtuse orchid]

ok. attack can be 3.5

[low tinsel]

Or maybe dash and like 2 attack

make it only kill weak guys

[obtuse orchid]

2 attack wont kill anything

[low tinsel]

you need other support / tank units

If that's the kind of unit you want

[obtuse orchid]

unless

8 stars, dash, 3.5 attack

[low tinsel]

Have swords in front

do you want this unit to be spammable?

If so then yes

[obtuse orchid]

it makes it unusable early game, since it can one shot early game units

cuz it would be so pricy

[low tinsel]

but I think it's more interesting to keep it as a strong unit requiring support

[obtuse orchid]

true

also, is the cloak sprite fixed yet?

[low tinsel]

I haven't fixed it

😢

[obtuse orchid]

rip

[low tinsel]

What happened to this?

[obtuse orchid]

well i fixed it, but when i updated the body, it got unfixed

and it was super tall

the tint and outline didnt align

it was weird

and i dont see why a regular cloak wouldnt work, it would be simpler

[low tinsel]

Or we call it "headless ghost" or something and use this 🤯

[obtuse orchid]

😭

[low tinsel]

You tried and the head didn't work

right?

[low tinsel]

k but actually?

or no?

[obtuse orchid]

here's the thing, the cloak had this outline that i couldnt move

[low tinsel]

Okay I see

[obtuse orchid]

ill try one more time to maybe get the head to fit or something

[low tinsel]

Sure

[obtuse orchid]

do u happen to have the sprite for the file?

what did i say

ok

do you happen to have the file for the sprite

of the cloak head

[low tinsel]

No I don't think so

[obtuse orchid]

ok let me dig in chat for it

[low tinsel]

btw

[obtuse orchid]

oh

in the localization file?

[low tinsel]

from localization (fapingvin fixed it)

So we can change some of this easily if we want to

[obtuse orchid]

k

[low tinsel]

Also what would you do to change / reshade a part of a .png image?

I want red and yellow trees for the butcheron tribe 😄

But I've done literally nothing with creating sprites

[obtuse orchid]

head_cloak_

wait

head_cloak_

would that be the file name needed?

[obtuse orchid]

just edit it with an editing software

[low tinsel]

No

I think head_cloak_sanginir_

[obtuse orchid]

right.

ty

[low tinsel]

and head_cloak_outline_sanginir

[obtuse orchid]

k

didnt work 🪦

[low tinsel]

Headless ghost

,
"vampireboat": {
"health": 100,
"movement": 3,
"range": 1,
"defence": 30,
"attack": 30,
"cost": 10,
"hidden": true,
"unitAbilities": [
"dash",
"swim",
"carry",
"water",
"sanginirleech",
"stomp",
"static"
],
"weapon": 16,
"promotionLimit": 0,
"idx": 44
}
vampire boat stats for future reference

[obtuse orchid]

ok

[low tinsel]

I can't put it in the file for now it won't work

[obtuse orchid]

we also need to update this thingy

i also updated a couple sprites. ill send them in this chat along with the sprites file when im done

[low tinsel]

Oh right

I'm going to do that for beta

[obtuse orchid]

maybe you can figure it out...?

cuz idk

[low tinsel]

not today sorry. I can try to take a look someday...
I though I wasn't working this next week but turns out I am. I'll take a look at it when I have time

[obtuse orchid]

although i am fixing some other stuff here and there

[low tinsel]

Probably once I'm done my YT video though

[obtuse orchid]

k

[low tinsel]

It's fine like this, like at least it works. Not ideal of course, but for an alpha it's probably fine.

[obtuse orchid]

alright. so that just leaves the vampire boat

[low tinsel]

Also leech isn't working quite right yet...

😢

heals fine, doesn't get any bonus attack

[obtuse orchid]

in that case, better change the bat stats and ability description then

just give both of them +0.5 attack than what we agreed on, then

[low tinsel]

I don't know if Fapingvin is going to get it working or not

I'll wait for a response before doing anything like that

[obtuse orchid]

ok

castle fixed

it no longer is floating

also i updatedthe terrain a bit (lowered contrast)

i wonder if i should change the dirt color to a shade of brown or grey

[low tinsel]

I like this much better

You could try it. I don't know though. This seems to give a pretty good theme

[obtuse orchid]

im wondering if maybe i should change the mountains as well. cuz the river inside doesnt really fit, but im not sure

[low tinsel]

Yeah... I really like the art but you're right. Maybe grey land might work if it's dark

ish

maybe

[obtuse orchid]

pov: the vampire you worship gets so much sacrifices that his house is bigger than your whole city

[obtuse orchid]

k. let me test smth

is this decent?

or should i change it

[low tinsel]

sigh

Yeah this is good

[obtuse orchid]

...bruh

[low tinsel]

I just really liked the blue on black

lol

[obtuse orchid]

rip

[low tinsel]

No this is really good

[obtuse orchid]

you couldve said "no", but i can switch it back

[low tinsel]

Thanks

I'm conflicted

[low tinsel]

this is probably better

I'm just sad

that it is beter

[low tinsel]

lol

[obtuse orchid]

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#1362225960585400450 message

rest in peace, old mountain design, back in the days of the snow landscape

[low tinsel]

Thank you for your willingness to learn and do the tedious effort of fixing sprites I really appreciate that

[obtuse orchid]

yw ||but its not that tedious. i think you'd be able to do it||

[obtuse orchid]

im gonna try this

i dont think any other tribe in the game has grass as their dirt color

ok here are 4 samples

which do u like best?

...are none of these good?

[little lagoon]

No problem!

[obtuse orchid]

k :D thanks!

we need a name for it tho

do yall got any ideas?

[low tinsel]

#1 or 4

[obtuse orchid]

aight. ill try #4

[tacit pasture]

Yes everything is renamble, and I added a description ability. Adding it to other improvement won't actually do anything, the description is purely informative.

Also castlelvlupper is no longer used, just forgot to delete them from this and the patch file

Though I guess it could serve the same purpose as a description, idk

[tacit pasture]

Leech does currently +1 damage and not +1 attack. I remember y'all asking to change it once I just forgot
But it does add that +1 damage lol it's just not that powerful

[obtuse orchid]

we werent asking for it to be changed to +1 damage, we were asking if that wasy already the case, cuz it wasnt working sometimesfor me and i thought that must be the case 😭 🙏

also, when you hover over a weaker unit with your mouse now, does it show the extra damage as well? cuz i remember some times before when i hovered over a warrior and it showed they would live with like 2 hp left but then i attacked and they died

[tacit pasture]

It shows since I modify battleresults which happens before the showing happens.

I know you wanted +1 attack, initially it was the case but then I misunderstood something and changed it to +1 damage, it's on me

[obtuse orchid]

oh

hmmmmm

is it possible to make the cloak look like a normal cloak with polymod?

cuz rn its a headless body

[tacit pasture]

Idk honestly

[obtuse orchid]

i genuinely have no idea how this could have happened

and i even tried re-adding the head, and it didnt work

[elfin halo]

You making videos 👀

[obtuse orchid]

Complete to-do list:
Make the vampire boat (polyscript. and we still need a name for it)
Turn the cloak back to a normal cloak (if i cant fix it)
add more language (that, i can do)
fix the tribe preview thingy when you select it in the menu
get johnklipi or someone to verify the polyscript

tell me if im missing anything

also how do you get rid of these lines in the terrain

[tacit pasture]

blur the top two lines a bit

so the north-east and north-west one

[obtuse orchid]

ok

[tacit pasture]

the ai loves fanatics 😊

[obtuse orchid]

ummmmm

[tacit pasture]

sanginir has a competent ai

[obtuse orchid]

awesome

[tacit pasture]

not like that

[obtuse orchid]

🪦

[tacit pasture]

Here's mine, I overdid it a bit so it's visible when next to other types of terrain (cause I'm an amateur)
But like a similar blur

[obtuse orchid]

almost!

[tacit pasture]

okay but it's getting better

[obtuse orchid]

is this good enough? at a glance i dont think you'll really notice

[tacit pasture]

perfect, it's much less distracting than the original

[obtuse orchid]

crafted with 15 minutes and some of my skills with microsoft paint

i could probably make it so much better if i took the time

[obtuse orchid]

once the polyscript is added, i will add the updated sprites & sprites.json to it. there shouldnt be much left after that

here are the files for the vampire boat stuff

[low tinsel]

I haven't made anything yet, but I'm in process of creating a video about how to mod polytopia (just basic stuff, no polymod). I don't think it's going to be close to professional quality, but hopefully the information can get across and help someone at least 🙂

[obtuse orchid]

fun fact: this thread, including the old one, has 2970 messages in total, which is 700 more than militas! which makes it the #1 tribe in the server 🔥

[low tinsel]

...mostly due to our incompetence in modding lol but still

[obtuse orchid]

shhhhhh

[elfin halo]

I have free polytopia Lofi you can use in your videos if you'd like. Https://sdcason.com/polytopia-chill

[obtuse orchid]

oh, shalone. what music software do you use? because as long as im not doing anything, i'd like to start making the tribe music

maybe when i finish, the music bug will be fixed

[low tinsel]

for background music? I'll take a look, maybe I'll find something that fits my vibe. Thank you!

[elfin halo]

I use GarageBand on iOS and Mac. If you have Linux or Windows, Bandlab/Calewalk is good.

[obtuse orchid]

k. thank you :D

[obtuse orchid]

vampires + roads is legit

[winter stirrup]

hi i was wondering if i can get the code for the converting code when killing them

[obtuse orchid]

what do you mean?

[tacit pasture]

yeah there's no converting going on in this mod

[low tinsel]

Do you mean the code to spawn a bat when the Fanatic kills an enemy unit?

[obtuse orchid]

which mountain design do yall like better? i tried to experiment to make it different but idk if i made it better

basically its simple vs less simple

this is with the newer mountain

(for anyone wondering why im changing some of the graphics, its cuz since the mod is almost done, im making the visuals look more polished)

i'll send yet another updated language list here soon. im aiming for a list of 40, if thats alright?

tra,nia,dor,nor,va,nus,von ,ba,sor,ron,tor,van,kar,an,cu,da,ra,sa,nar,ang,la,dra,ri,nir,cula,vas,lar,or,dan,ink,ro,na,nic,val,ci,tar,sil,vis,com,arn

[obtuse orchid]

tell me what yall think, and if any of them should be replaced

[elfin halo]

I like the more complicated mountain

[obtuse orchid]

k

[obtuse orchid]

should i improve some other the other terrain sprites as well?

once i finish them all, ill send them here so hawkfrost can replace the old ones

[low tinsel]

Yeah if you want. I like the mountain 🙂

[obtuse orchid]

im thinking maybe change just the forests and maybe the field a bit, although i have no idea how i would change the field

maybe i dont have to change the field

[low tinsel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse orchid]

i'd like this tribe to stand out, yk?

[obtuse orchid]

I HAVE DONE IT!

[low tinsel]

Done what?

[agile storm]

Please pin the mod, it took me forever to find it

[obtuse orchid]

got rid of the lines between the tiles

[low tinsel]

Will repost tomorrow

[ocean light]

where is the file?

[low tinsel]

Okay so this is the released file so far. IT IS NOT FINISHED!! As we are still figuring out the polyscript. So changes:

• Bats replace riders
• Fanatics replace mind benders. They are in meditation tech now
• Vampire Castle replaces mountain temple. Is now in Philosophy.
• Vampire replaces giant
  Sanginir Mod

There are some known bugs, but as I said before it is not finished.

[low tinsel]

Updated mod with polyscript so far:
Github File

[karmic harbor]

almost

[obtuse orchid]

make sure to add the better mountains and fields tho:

[obtuse orchid]

feel free to change this btw, but if you want "dracula" to be the default name for the ai, dont add more language parts and dont move / replace "dra" and "cula"

[elfin halo]

What kind of names should my zombie cities have?

[obtuse orchid]

hmmmm. it depends, do you want it to be a zombie-ish vibe, or a lost civilization kind of vibe

[elfin halo]

Dealers choice

[obtuse orchid]

well, if its zombies, then probably syllables that include letters like z, r, m, o

like "zom", "mor", etc

[obtuse orchid]

😭 i got sort of a beat. i never made music before so pls dont bomb me cuz it sucks

i will make it better. dont worry

and ill add some background stuff

yes, exploit, i know the music bug isnt fixed

[karmic harbor]

kalinka malinka mentioned

[obtuse orchid]

however, at the rate its going, by the time the music bug does get fixed, it should be almost done

[obtuse orchid]

yea, i was kinda trying to go for that :)

i really had no other ideas 🪦

[karmic harbor]

the harmony at the end went a bit haywire though

[obtuse orchid]

yeah. im gonna fix that

although it may sound better with bg music

its all too high pitched, i think

[elfin halo]

I like it. Would just lower the pitch, add some swelling strings and bassline

[obtuse orchid]

i added a bg tuba 😭 but here's how it turned out

AHHH ITS TERRIBLE

why is it different when i export it

[elfin halo]

I like the tuba, but bassoon might sound better.

[obtuse orchid]

ok

[elfin halo]

Sounds fine to me.

What app are you using?

[obtuse orchid]

soundtrap 😭 im pretty sure the one you suggested costed money

[elfin halo]

Bandlab is free online

Cakewalk is also available as a free download on Windows.

[obtuse orchid]

when i went for cakewalk, there was like two options, and one was for recording, and the other i think cost money but i might be misremembering but it was really late at night 🪦 mb

[elfin halo]

I'll check it out. Most important thing in making music is to use the app/method that you like most 😊

[obtuse orchid]

you cant even hear the tuba now

[obtuse orchid]

for some reason that aint even an option

whys it always so loud

rrrrr

*frustration*

i made it loop better though

ooh way better

does it at least fit the tribe?

[waxen briar]

oh it does

[obtuse orchid]

:)

[astral palm]

Hm

[obtuse orchid]

should i lower the pitch more?

[astral palm]

Are there special ideas for Vampire already?

I thought, would be cool if it had sneak and escape

[obtuse orchid]

it already has dash which makes it really strong, and it will also get Leech (for those who don't know, it makes it heal when it attacks an enemy)

[astral palm]

Okay

[low tinsel]

Sneak could work if we don’t want it’s attack too high and if it is underpowered

[obtuse orchid]

true

whats its current stats rn? have they been changed to 3 attack and defense?

[astral palm]

Vampire just could act more "Vampirish" this way

Be some sort of sneaky life feasting predator

[obtuse orchid]

u should lower the attack to 30, to make up for leech bonus damage

[low tinsel]

So you want 3 attack? I think at least 3.5 would be good (to kill a warrior undefended)

[obtuse orchid]

3 attack would kill an undefended warrior with leech bonus attack

[low tinsel]

Oh right forgot about that

k sounds good!

[obtuse orchid]

new idea for forest. thoughts?

in-game

perhaps i should change the color of the trees so they blend less?

and yes i will align them

[astral palm]

Seems cool

[obtuse orchid]

ty

better alignment

@low tinsel here's the chunk of the sprites.json that was for the terrain
},
"field_sanginir_": {
"pixelsPerUnit": 480,
"pivot": [ 0.5, 0.05 ]
},
"forest_sanginir_": {
"pixelsPerUnit": 3500,
"pivot": [ 0.5, 0.54 ]
},
"mountain_sanginir_": {
"pixelsPerUnit": 2475,
"pivot": [ 0.5, -0.32 ]

newest forest. tell me if i shouldchange the colors so it doesnt blend too much with the ground

[low tinsel]

If you want to change the colours slightly that might be good

Can you DM the most updated images and sprites.json please?

[obtuse orchid]

no rush, but can i get an estimate forwhen the next update will be out?

please and thanks

[low tinsel]

As soon as @tacit pasture updates leech

I can put the new file with your sprites together tomorrow if you wish

[obtuse orchid]

k

[obtuse orchid]

who would win, nerd yadakk defender or chad bat army

[tacit pasture]

that's a very juicy city btw

[obtuse orchid]

oh! i didnt realize, but the dagger bats have the bat icon as well. neat!

[obtuse orchid]

i switched the instrument

any suggestions?

it should loop as well. maybe i could add more background stuff tho

this still needs an update by the way

[tacit pasture]

modify tribe preview in patch.json

Militas has a good template I think. Enable debug mode to see tile coordinates

[obtuse orchid]

ok

by the way... the cloak still has THIS STUPID OUTLINE

idk how to fix that

wait no let me cook

[tacit pasture]

make the cloak itself bigger than the outline lol

[obtuse orchid]

that would be weird. im just going to align it perfectly while still centering it. ill show you what i mean

[tacit pasture]

🧑‍🍳

[obtuse orchid]

it didnt work 🪦

wait i know why

i put it in the completely wrong spot

im dumb

i plan to put the vampire boat in the water

whats the code name for the water?

[obtuse orchid]

i might add some more mountains and forest to this, but im not too sure yet

now that i kinda know how it works

[karmic harbor]

public enum Type
{
None,
Water,
Ocean,
Field,
Mountain,
Forest,
Ice
}

[obtuse orchid]

yes. thanks

[obtuse orchid]

ok well. this is the latest music so far

[obtuse orchid]

im not cooking. i made an extra sprite for the tint, body_cloak_tint_sanginir_, and it doesnt quite work

[obtuse orchid]

it doesnt work at all. im assuming its something wrong with the sprite name, so if someone can help me correct it, please do 🪦

[karmic harbor]

uhhh

btw there is a continuation of the melody

[obtuse orchid]

🏃 💨

[karmic harbor]

just a sec

[sour beacon]

wetland and mangrove also but ig that’s v104 one so theyre missing

[karmic harbor]

ig something like this

and then first theme again

[obtuse orchid]

bruv

idk how to read music

ive never done music in my life

ill look up the rest on youtube

[karmic harbor]

btw i forgor reprise exist

lmao

what a shame

[obtuse orchid]

so whats all the stuff left to do?

all i can think of is fix cloak and make vampire boat

[low tinsel]

It’s close

[obtuse orchid]

how do i fix it?

if theres a way

btw. im leaving until monday

ill upload all the work i got done here, in case the next update is gonna get made while im gone

[obtuse orchid]

complete list of what i did since the last update:
updated the patch.json to fix the tribe preview
updated the cloak sprites and gave them a tint

[tacit pasture]

I realized how I could make the heal amount appear when a unit with leech attacks

[elfin halo]

Make the main instrument an octave lower and the bass an octave higher. Otherwise sounds good. Maybe add some strings chords.

[rough pivot]

I made a Halloween themed tribe awhile back feel to use any of them

[low tinsel]

Alright, I think I got everything we need for a full release! Not including the vampire boat and music, but that could be a future update. And I used these files for the cloak for now

Just sent in for verification 🙂

[karmic harbor]

https://github.com/Josiahdavid/Polytopia-mods/raw/eb60d808d853b6cd6c4ff3137f6d2a7acb9df895/sanginir2.0.polymod

[karmic harbor]

@low tinsel

[low tinsel]

@obtuse orchid @tacit pasture @elfin halo

Sanginir is HERE!! With leech finally working (still only healing 1hp, but hopefully we’ll change that to 3 soon) we have a full tribe now! Let us know if there are any bugs or anything else to smooth out. It has been a pleasure working in this mod, and I am glad it came to be a reality

[elfin halo]

I'll try it out in a few days. I'm excited! Glad I could help out.

[rough pivot]

gotta say this tribe is fire

[agile storm]

I made a little motif for you if you would like it, I love contributing music 🙂 If not that's cool too, I won't take it personally ha ha

[elfin halo]

My vampire became a raft. This isn't correct right? I'm on v 2.0. Also, leech could use a boost. 3 hp I think would be much better. Please add a tooltip saying the Vampire Castle can only be built on a mountain. Vampire castle is awesome, but very expensive. Otherwise, I'm loving this tribe. Especially the bats, which make it very unique to play.

[tacit pasture]

embark is not yet implemented. I'll buff leech to 3 hp

apparently many people have said this to me (Bananique and Hawkfrost as well) but I forgot every time 💀

[elfin halo]

Unrelated; any timeframe on infect?

[tacit pasture]

nothing definite. I'm having pretty hard exams coming up and my job schedule is also messed up, but I'm doing 100% polymodding in my freetime

[elfin halo]

thanks. I appreciate all the help so far. zombuti wouldn't be up and running without you!

[low tinsel]

kokonya23 has embark logic already if you want to ask to use that

@river terrace 🙂

[river terrace]

hiii

whats going oon

oh i see

if you need embark logic i can share code

[tacit pasture]

Sure, I'd appreciate that

[karmic harbor]

...

...

[tacit pasture]

?

[karmic harbor]

https://github.com/PolyModdingTeam/PolyMod/pull/87

just check official dev1.2 code

[tacit pasture]

oh 😄

[river terrace]

[desert mist]

I don't understand how 'sacrifice' works or the 'leech' ability. In the 'summoner' ability, it says that a bat appears after an opposing unit has been killed, except that it's a dagger that appears. Can you help me?

[tacit pasture]

Sacrifice appears when a unit has at least 1 wounded neighboring friendly unit (and you have unlocked free spirit). Upon sacrifice the unit is killed and every freindly neighboring unit is healed.

Leech units, when attacking units with lower hp recover 1 health (if possible, and will be buffed to 3), and deal 1 more attack

Summoner is supposed to summon daggers, yes

[desert mist]

Meaning low life? When the opposing unit can be killed?

[tacit pasture]

no when (your unit's hp) > (enemy unit's hp)

[desert mist]

Ok. Thanks a lot.

I see that 'leech' adds 0.1 attack and not 1 attack. Which changes nothing. Especially since I understand that the Vampire attack has been nerfed from 4 --> 3 so that it can regain 4 attack against a weaker unit.

[tacit pasture]

what do you mean? Leech adds 1 attack, it just doesn't show anywhere rn

will be fixed probably in the future

[desert mist]

For me, this puts me next to the attack (+0.1) and when I calculate, the Vampire's damage isn't 4. The same goes for the bat, which doesn't increase its attack from 1.5 to 2.5.

[tacit pasture]

it doesn't show neither on the screen nor when you hover over enemy units. But during attack it does the real amount of damage. I will fix it not showing

[desert mist]

Really? It seemed to me that the Vampire's damage hadn't increased, but I'll try again.

[tacit pasture]

let me know if it's not working

[desert mist]

Leech' works on a bat, but not on a Vampire, which does exactly the same damage as a fanatic or swordsman. However, the unit I hit had fewer HP than the Vampire.

[tacit pasture]

there's nothing separating a bat from a vampire in the code. Did the vampire heal? (If it had not max hp)

[desert mist]

No, the Vampire hasn't cured himself.

[tacit pasture]

but was it wounded?

[desert mist]

Yes, it was 25 HP. By the way, does the sacrifice heal more depending on the unit sacrificed? Will a Vampire heal more than a Bat?

[tacit pasture]

not as of right now

[desert mist]

Ok. Will the 'leech' bug for the Vampire be fixed?

[tacit pasture]

yes

[brazen zephyr]

Could it be because the unit the Vampire was attacking had a higher percentage of health than the Vampire? Or is it purely based on which unit has a higher number of hit points?

[low tinsel]

Todo:

• change name “dagger” (to what? Daggerbat?