lore-discussion

[foggy pasture]

Yuigiri was experimented on by the Scissors to turn into a living chemical weapon.

Thats why she joined the PUS, to get revenge.

[tepid helm]

Nope, no backstory of Yugiri yet
All we know currently is her ability is from an accident of an experiment, and she's under PUS surveillance and care.
It would be more plausible for Yugiri to be a test-subject of PUS experiments, so when she has an ability from the experiments, they take hold of her and make her use her ability for PUS' purpose.

And for Scissors doing experiments on people does not make any sense, cuz their purpose is to go back to earth and all they need to do to achieve it is by doing research to Bablo Crystal

[somber turtle]

for kanami and reiichi, where did you get that?

I don't think kanami was further expanded on her lore yet

for reiichi, it was only known that during a mission, he betrayed nobunaga

[foggy pasture]

Oh sorry I'm quite tired, maybe I mixed him up with a character from another game.

As for Kanami, it makes sense as to why she would join the scissors. That's just speculation though.

[upbeat field]

there is lore to this game?

[quasi mason]

A little bit. There's the in-game cutscene stuff. Character bio's once more dorm stuff comes out. And then there's a Manhua that's only in Chinese (fan translation in progress).

[waxen latch]

Is there a reason why Eika joined Scissors and why she has that mask on

Idk what the heck could’ve happened to a high schooler who still seems to attend classes like normal but is also part of a group that fights the government

When you choose her in the agent selection, she says “They said this mask would protect me, no matter where I was”

Also where did she get fire powers from

[wise palm]

If what I remember from reading around here is correct, Eika’s home district had a bunch of issues. When disaster hit, PUS didn’t really do anything. Eika and a few others ended up working to handle things themselves, including dealing with a gang that was taking advantage of the region. Only then did PUS get involved, to try and arrest the folks who assaulted the gang.

After that she joined the scissors and was given the mask to protect her identity so she could keep attending school and/or keep her day job without a PUS squad picking her up.

[glad charm]

I remember someone saying that the reason why Eika has fire powers is due to her abnormally high body temperature and that the equipment she uses on her arms help control/channel it. (Unsure)

[waxen latch]

Huh interesting lore

[waxen latch]

Makes sense I guess. Government doesn’t help until you and your crew do something and then you get put in trouble when they step in even though all you did was help your home? I’d be mad too

[waxen latch]

Reminds of Heat from bust a groove 2

He also has fire powers and a ridiculously high body temperature of 43 degrees Celsius

He got his fire powers from a race car accident that he recovered from in a week

[ripe ledge]

No? No lore at all, you're looking at the wrong place.

[upbeat field]

lol

[dull elk]

And also some additional story cutscenes from the CN servers, which have a not-insignificant chance of being retconned due to CN backlash.

[chrome palm]

From what I'm reading here it looks like PUS is just standard antagonists

What do they have going for them?

[pastel sluice]

theyre hotter

[dull elk]

Its a bit more complicated by that, though I won't blame you since what's there in global doesn't REALLY give enough context to either side.

The short rundown:

• Earth is screwed because of some global disaster (Cataclysm), which resulted in a mass migration to Strinova.
• Strinova is basically an alternate dimension where human consciousness is digitally uploaded (a big oversimplication). Benefits - no hunger, no aging.
• Unfortunately, at around the 100 year mark for an individual, memory overload eventually causes loss of personality and essentially zombification if it goes too far. This is Collapse Syndrome.
• PUS (the government body) implements a controversial program as a stopgap measure to combat Collapse Syndrome known as the Reincarnation Project (basically conducting memory resets on afflicted individuals). They're attempting to find more permanent cures for Collapse Syndrome in the meantime.
• The Scissors opposes PUS on an ideological standpoint for various reasons, chief among which include the Reincarnation Project and Strinova being a fake world, hence how they want to return to Earth.
• Both sides want a specific resource (Bablo Crystals) to accomplish their goals, thus conflict occurs.

Basically, given ALL the context, it's definitely not a case of clear antagonist, moreso two ideologcally opposed organizations clashing due to said ideologcal conflicts and resource competition. Not that Global does any major favors in explaining that well.

[wraith parrot]

Being the state government i guess

[tiny ermine]

[bleak plover]

thought that strinova was another planet

[dull elk]

It's not. The fact that Agents can Stringify is, lore-wise, justified by Strinova being an alternate dimension.

[thin pebble]

Thanks for this, I wasn't really understanding the lore before

I like how it doesn't have a clear cut antagonist, because it feels more realistic to how conflicts actually work

[queen bridge]

actually even urbino want the bablo crystals

[dull elk]

That too. Urbino being the neutral party focused on commerce w/ a longer-term plan of using Bablo Crystals to travel further into space IIRC.

[queen bridge]

yup which would benefit both party anyway

[timid basin]

there is some insight on both PUS and Scissors

but not urbino

and scissors was formed because of PUShit

pretty sure

hence why like

a good amount of characters in scissors were former PUS members

[queen bridge]

Or wronged by them

But the most important thing to note is that most char are trying to do what they think is right for everyone

Except Galatea she is a confirmed POS

[chrome palm]

I see
Thank you

[wraith parrot]

She was a member of New Bethlehem

Which is the only faction we know that's actually the bad guy in the purest sense of the term

[tough badger]

what did they do?

[tepid helm]

Rather than space, dimensional travel would be more accurate

[tepid helm]

Real "terrorism"

Cuz of it the story got backlashes in CN

[bleak plover]

I still dont understand how bad the story was for it to warrant a backlash

I want dark themes in stories, thats what makes it interesting imo

[dull elk]

I couldn't tell you because I haven't gotten to reading the CN story yet, but if I had to guess, there's some degree of "we don't like evil playable character being evil" at play.

[bleak plover]

I like evil women

the chinese are blind to the treasure they just gave away...

[karmic garden]

look what they did to my poor maddelena

[bleak plover]

I like maddelena better now tbh

theres a difference between crazy and evil

[karmic garden]

how do u know shes not evil

[bleak plover]

AND in spite of that, she continues to do art never giving up her kaleidoscope dreams

[fair raven]

Please watch what you say.

[karmic garden]

oop

[bleak plover]

shrouded by despair, she has a single seed of hope

absolutely peak

[queen bridge]

that's why she is (second) best girl

[dire grail]

Randomly popping in here for a quick question

Why is it painting utopia society

Why painting

[dull elk]

Firstly, ACTUALLY it's Painting Utopia Security, not Society.
Secondly, it's probably partially "a dev though that sounded nice" and "something to run along the theme of paper Strinova has."

[echo ridge]

I feel like Scissors is incredibly on the nose in that regard

[agile bough]

... ... i only just realized thats why the scissors are named that...

[waxen latch]

Wow

Lmao

Scissors beats paper

So does that make Urbino rock

[graceful crown]

urbino is urbino

[waxen latch]

I mean it’s lead by Bai Mo of all people isn’t it

[graceful crown]

he is shady af.

[waxen latch]

Guess everyone has an edgy side

[queen bridge]

Despite being shady he does actually value freedom over everything

[shy vale]

So my lore so bascially the lore of strinova is bascially they make the game and they are like wow yeah that seems like a fun game so like these creators they sit down and they make the game and they make it and release it to people and they are like wow.

[chrome palm]

what

[quasi mason]

wow

[echo ridge]

what

[digital beacon]

what

[timid basin]

huh?

[fickle drift]

what

[wraith parrot]

Nanidafuq

[tepid helm]

??????

[glad charm]

he's right!

[dark garnet]

Whar

Let me go this one out of my chest
Is people in strinova world BORN or downloaded

[graceful crown]

uploaded

[pastel sluice]

does that mean people dont reproduce in strinova?

if so the population must be steadily decreasing from collapse syndrome

[graceful crown]

afaik yes

not unless they do some freaky data shit in place of reproductive acts to stabilize population

[dusk basalt]

punctuation?¿

[timid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/im-gonna-stop-you-right-there-stop-it-stop-gif-14320481

i have heard ENOUGH

[dark garnet]

There's no point for immortal if u cant srutal bex

[remote lily]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-kevin-hart-damn-gif-22709278

[timid basin]

so

how tf does one die in strinova

if we're essentially 1 and 0s

ik death DOES NOT occur

and that collapse syndrome is basically a data overload

[ripe ledge]

are they stupid?

[timid basin]

how does one

basically stop existing

in strinova

is what i meant from "death"

[graceful crown]

getting deleted

the tombstone spray should like have some words about it

[timid basin]

ok so this just raises more questions than answers

[graceful crown]

"in a world of data, death is just the end of a string of code. So what's the purpose of the tombstone?"
-Cyber Tombstone spray description

so basically getting a \0 is one way

or an EOF or EOL

[timid basin]

i see

[tepid helm]

Tbf someone getting into the final stage of collapse syndrome is also pretty much "dead", identity death to be precise, cuz they lost all of their memories and cease to exist as their previous identity, turned into collapse zombie

[dull elk]

IIRC there's also the existence of "reverse-string weaponry" that is capable of damaging a Strinovan. Not 100% sure on whether enough application of said weaponry would KILL, but I'm leaning towards probably.

[tepid helm]

I would guess it was forbidden cuz of it "hurts" people and render the body useless in some state, but won't kill (because if the consciousness still exist, they still could reconstruct the body), Strinovians are immortal and only collapse syndrome is their problem with this immortality.

[wraith parrot]

String theory relies heavily on vibration

Just use the negative of the vibration to cancel it out

[shrewd hound]

What's underneath this massive hole ?

[tepid helm]

Next new map, Okeanos

[waxen latch]

So like what exactly is Urbino

Is it like a big city that promotes art and freedom or something like that? Or is it like a smaller community

Weird to see scissors and and PUS constantly fighting over Bablo and Urbino is just like “yo we chilling”

[queen bridge]

a huge conglomerate

[waxen latch]

Also is like earth completely messed up or no

Cause scissors want to go back to Earth, but is earth still a place humanity can live on

[waxen latch]

Like a big company or something?

[queen bridge]

you can think of it like that

[waxen latch]

Just confused on how the world of Strinova is set up tbh

You don’t really get to see the world in a way that makes me understand how the lore connects to it

[dull elk]

I don't blame you. What's presented in-game does a very poor job of doing that.

And unfortunately most of the lore materials are in Chinese only - those being what additional story missions exist and a 26-chapter supplemental manhwa.

[waxen latch]

Only got like one “story mode” tutorial and all it told me was “we fight over these crystals”

[waxen latch]

Seriously? Dang that’s alot

[waxen latch]

Like I feel like explaining why each scissors member doesn’t like the government would be pretty important but I had to learn that from here lmao

[waxen latch]

Ah thanks

I guess the idea of Strinova being a fake world helps a lot cause I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE WHOLE “We uploaded our consciousness into a data universe” THING

[bleak plover]

personally if it was up to me I think that turning into paper is kind of a neat evolutionary trait, though I'd miss feeling hungry

[waxen latch]

It’s kinda neat I guess, but being a ghost in a machine probably comes with a lot of existential crisis

[bleak plover]

SOMA moment...

[waxen latch]

At least you’re not alone?

[waxen latch]

Lmao yeah

I’d miss eating Mexican food

I can understand why Scissors don’t wanna live in a fake world

But is the real world still doing okay? Idk if that’s been answered

[queen bridge]

i mean you can still eat

kokona is a foodie and still eat out of pleasure

[dull elk]

AFAIK no, hence the whole reason why Strinova exists.

[waxen latch]

Oh cool I guess

But I assume stuff like digestion and all that doesn’t really matter now? Is it like a hobby?

[queen bridge]

yup

[waxen latch]

Can you even gain or lose weight

[waxen latch]

My foodie sniper girl lol

[bleak plover]

it's not the same...

[waxen latch]

Yeah, but at least you sorta have it

[queen bridge]

it's not the same but it's still an option if you liked eating

[waxen latch]

So are scissors hoping to get inter dimensional travel to work so they can find a different Earth that is okay? Then like migrate to it?

[dull elk]

That's more Urbino (researching Bablo Crystal tech to do interdimensional travel stuff). The Scissors just want to GTFO out of Strinova and return to EARTH Earth.

[waxen latch]

Oh yeah

The government basically does “memory wipes” to prevent memory overload

Are those memories completely deleted or stored somewhere? Feels scary to just lose 100 years of memories then start again

[dull elk]

Not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure it's a memory wipe.

[waxen latch]

Ohh

Eh I mean if they wanna do that I guess it’s worth a try to return to the real world, but idk if they could survive it

[waxen latch]

Huh, no wonder it’s controversial

Another existential crisis on top of another existential crisis

Just curious. How would you guys feel about living in Strinova and dealing with the whole memory collapse thing

I’d probably start viewing each century as a “life” then try to figure out what to do in each one

Or maybe keep a journal of literally everything I experienced in my past century

If the government system doesn’t keep track of memories, guess I should

[dull elk]

That or some other record, yeah. It's very reminiscent of the EXO program from Destiny 2, except arguably better.

[waxen latch]

How do you think it’s better? Never heard of EXO

[dull elk]

Basically, D2's Exo program was a project that uploaded human consciousness into a machine, which would, in theory, let you live forever.

Main issue is has is something called DER (which is basically your mind going insane due to rejecting the body you're placed in), which is basically akin to Strinova's Collapse Syndrome. And the main way it's combatted is, wait for it, a memory reset.

[waxen latch]

Hmmm 🤔

[dull elk]

The reason I say Strinova's is better is because:
-How the Exos came to be is the source of a bunch of unethical experiments and sus tech.
-You can't infinitely reset an Exo because the more resets, the worse your memory is.
-All the other benefits of Strinova as a whole alternate dimension (Exos can still die)

But yeah, there's a lot of lore that's just NOT explained in Global, which sucks.

The only reason I know any of it is partially due to people telling me, mostly from the fact I decided to bloody translate the Strinova manhwa for myself.

[waxen latch]

Huh fair points

I view Strinova as like a new world to live in indefinitely, and having a new 100 year life each time sounds like something people could try to make something good out of

And you’re not alone at all

[dull elk]

Personally, I wouldn't say it's far from a utopia and not even that I'd prefer it, but as you said, if it did happen, I'd make the best of it.

But not everyone does, hence why The Scissors exists as a major faction.

[waxen latch]

Yeah it is. Besides advertising and marketing you gotta have something in the game to make people grasp the characters

Else they’re just gonna view them as “hot anime girls for superficial mass appeal” and not see them as anything more

[waxen latch]

I guess it’s a good point to acknowledge in such a situation

It’s weird to adjust to a simulated indefinite reality, and it’s not like people would’ve done it if the world didn’t collapse

[dull elk]

Hence why I'm translating that manga/manhwa - it's gives way better context to Strinova as a world and the central conflict.

[waxen latch]

Nice work with all that. Can’t imagine how much work that is

[dull elk]

Those story missions are...eh. There's a reason why it stopped after Season 4 and hasn't been touched since on the CN side.

[waxen latch]

The one I experienced as the tutorial sucked

[dull elk]

At this point, I'm done with a complete initial translation. Just looking for second opinions and the other person I'm working with to actually typeset it over the manhwa art.

[waxen latch]

All it gave me was they’re fighting over crystals because they need them for their own goals

Nothing about the whole simulated reality to escape apocalypse stuff

[waxen latch]

Whenever it gets done, let me know cause I’d wanna check it out

[dull elk]

Basically.
PUS: Wants to maintain Strinova, wants Bablo Crystals to find Collapse Syndrome cures.
Scissors: Wants to leave (or even destroy) Strinova, wants Bablo Crystals to return to Earth/the real world.
Urbino: Neutral party, wants Bablo Crystals for interdimensional travel.

[dull elk]

For sure - I'm pretty sure a bunch of other people are also interested.

[waxen latch]

Good summary and I like the differing views of the situation as a whole

[dull elk]

Oh, and also, AFAIK, us as player characters (AKA the Navigator) is basically just helping Celestia run her clinic focused on treating Collapse Syndrome patients.

[waxen latch]

I’d probably lean more toward PUS or Urbino honestly

But I’d understand why scissors doesn’t like the fake reality and wants to leave. I just don’t know if there’s a better REAL world out there anymore

Oh cool nice

Celestia is neat

[tiny ermine]

[graceful crown]

Iirc not everyone can paper. Has anyone mentioned the process of actually becoming paper?

[tepid helm]

Imo it's been many many years since the migration to Strinova (Cosmite is the very first human city in Strinova, and it was discovered by the current era humans recently), and I'm guessing that the condition of earth could be better already after years passed (like there's saying nature heals).

Cosmite was covered in sand, so we could say that it's been hundreds or thousands of years since humans left Cosmite

[timid basin]

cosmite is huge im pretty sure

but idk what part of cosmite is the playable bit

[pastel sluice]

im curious of the timeline with the migration to strinova. theoretically the people that founded cosmite should still be around now, tho with their memories reset

im guessing thats how it got forgotten in the first place

[ashen otter]

nah bet og people got collapsed syndromed

[pastel sluice]

definitely true for the first ones, but it couldnt have happened to all of them or else there would be no one left in strinova

unless if there were multiple migrations?

[graceful crown]

anyone here have a close up of the athena's cycle animation?

[vestal wasp]

eep

[graceful crown]

anyways anyone know what the athena is really based on?

seems close to a deagle

[queen bridge]

It is a deagle

[timid basin]

its a deagle

literally a spitting image of one

[remote lily]

I think it might be a pistol

[wraith parrot]

Surely not, It feels more like a shortened dmr

[stiff heath]

MASSIVE

[ripe ledge]

It bears a resemblance to the IMI Desert Eagle, specifically the L5 variant.

I don't know, just a hunch. It is a fictional firearm, after all

:clueless

[remote lily]

Its a Deagle

an L5 model probably

[timid basin]

what kinda ak does galatea wield

people are saying its the same ak as ming's

i know its an AK

but the AK has way too many variants

[remote lily]

I think it's one that shoots bullets

[thorn stirrup]

Mings is an akm iicr

[dark garnet]

Ming AKM

[umbral vortex]

pretty sure they're both akm

[remote lily]

Probably AKM but I feel like Gala has AK12

[queen bridge]

nah gala has the akm

[mystic vault]

its got more ak12 vibes

[mystic vault]

it doess

[remote lily]

Really? Ming has the more AKM feel

Gala has the more AK12 ideal, with the triangle stock

[dull elk]

Also, one of Ming's voicelines for eliminations.

[remote lily]

Gala doesnt have that 😭

But her lil sis has

[dull elk]

Ming and Maddelena IIRC are the only two characters who explicitly reference the real-life analog of their weapons, but every primary has a real-life analog.

[remote lily]

yeah

Everything is based off of a real caliber/rifle

The secondaries too

Athena = Deagle
Stinger = Micro Uzi
Ignis = Supershorty

[dull elk]

The Ignis = Serbu Super-Shorty one is a bit of a stretch.

And then there's the Emberspit.

[remote lily]

its a stretch yeah but it kinda makes sense bc you can load 2 shots in the shorty barrel and one in chamber

its the closest

[dark garnet]

Michele too

[remote lily]

Though idk if both miss Fragrans and Michelle have the same M4A1 or Michelle has the M4A1 and Fragrans has an AR-15

or vice versa

Other Primaries have obvious counterparts but some are vague

Like Maddie's G28

and Reichi's Dragunov

Im gonna call them by based guns at this point lol

[dark garnet]

I think nobu use M14 EBR

[remote lily]

nope its the HKG3

Nobu's European

😭

[dark garnet]

[remote lily]

yeah imma call Fragrans' gun an AR15

[dull elk]

Wait a sec...I think I might've figured out what Leona's LMG is.

[remote lily]

Go ahead

[dull elk]

Someone correct me if I'm off my rocker, but it looks an awful lot like an Ultimax 100 if you ripped the carry handle off of it.

The entire trigger and buttstock area has the same shape.

[remote lily]

It does look similar

I thought it was a Scar HAMR

[dull elk]

Yeah, I could see it. Proportions seem a bit off, though.

Particularly since we do have a direct SCAR analog in the form of Fuchsia's rifle.

[remote lily]

When are we getting an Agent with a Primary modelled off of an HB

[remote lily]

yeah

She uses the Scar L

unless its the H var

oh it is the Scar H nvm

[dull elk]

(took me a second to compute what you meant by HB...but yeah, that'd make sense)

There's also the low-hanging fruit of adding another Sniper character and using that as an excuse to have an Arctic Warfare sniper in the mix.

and then there's my OC concept that literally wields a CZ over-under shotgun

[remote lily]

The Urbino sniper?

[dull elk]

shrugs

[waxen latch]

Do we know anything about character relationships besides what we see in the chapter 1 story cutscenes

Just curious about how each members of the factions interact with each other or with people from different factions

[dull elk]

There's a bunch of implied ones hidden in easter egg combat voicelines. Other than that, it's locked behind the translation barrier of previous CN in-game story and the manhwa.

[waxen latch]

Eh about as much as I expected

[remote lily]

What is Eikas gun based of?

seems like an atchisson aa-12 with a custom muzzle

[timid basin]

michele:

m4a1 carbine

but her gun doesnt look like one

just an m4

we have 3 unit that say their gun

ming maddel and michele

Akm g28 and m4a1

[fossil aurora]

Whats actually the story?

[graceful crown]

How far back do you want?

[fossil aurora]

i suppose everything.

[graceful crown]

Earth fucked, people move to new dimension called strinova. All was well. People became Immortal since going to strinova makes you pure data until people reached 100 years old and got ultra aggressive dementia rabies. PUS is government who is controversial. They have controversial measures to help with collapse syndrome and keep the peace. Scissors formed because, no, I want off this ride. They fight over bablo to fulfill their goals. Urbino is there being shady capitalists

[fossil aurora]

so is everyone immortal? or only those who went to the dimension.

[graceful crown]

All humans are in the dimension

Afaik

Going to strinova tangentially makes you immortal

[fossil aurora]

i see, thats pretty neat

[fossil aurora]

whats The rabies

[graceful crown]

Collapse syndrome

[fossil aurora]

and what happens when you turn 100?

[graceful crown]

Collapse syndrome

[fossil aurora]

do they just die?

[graceful crown]

No you don't. You become like a zombie

[fossil aurora]

oh

interesting

[graceful crown]

Known treatment is memory wipes

[fossil aurora]

thats wild

[graceful crown]

Early on. Too far, zombie

[fossil aurora]

zombie

[graceful crown]

Ask the rest here. I am a lore enjoyer not a lore keeper

[fossil aurora]

same

[graceful crown]

So a lot of mistakes

[fossil aurora]

but i wish to bestow everyone with the joy of this game

[graceful crown]

Same. Also teto

[fossil aurora]

YESteto

[hollow ore]

hey everyone
is meredith a cat or a dog?
i need to convince my friend

[strong mango]

meredith is a friend

[tepid helm]

Extra info, not immediately, it has stages like cancer, and in the final stage you literally die

[hollow ore]

such useful input
your well of wisdom would leave everyone a dry corpse

[strong mango]

meredith is also cute!

[hollow ore]

your cuteness would also move me off the chair with a rope around my neck

[strong mango]

bro you good? like are you okay?

if you need help, blink twice

[timid basin]

urbino having little to no info on them makes them real shady

PUS and Scissors have plenty of info

urbino is just there

[hollow ore]

like i said, your helpfulness is as much as timmys dad exsitence

[strong mango]

I think you need to calm it down a little bit. you went from 0-100 real fast

[hollow ore]

and you have been a 0 with nothing to look forward to

[woeful sorrel]

She looks more like a jackal than a cat imho

If she’s supposed to look after Anubis, the jackal would make more sense

[hollow ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1333721622640853093/1341041597785313290/il_fullxfull.6022739051_kuxb.avif?ex=67b48dd0&is=67b33c50&hm=5defe721ff002e1921216d73891dedf7c12cf02b61dfd2be9985302bcc5c4fc8&

[hollow ore]

i was thinking shes something like this

[spare ore]

Kokona is my wife it's canon

[gritty acorn]

u need spiritual healing ma man

[karmic garden]

bro needs jesus

[tough badger]

meredith does seem like a jackal

but sand cat is cooler

[bleak plover]

please people don't be dumb and click this

[glad charm]

DAMN 😭

He done cooked him hard

Well done

[fickle shell]

Is kanami and Yvette friends?

[blazing pewter]

Are you asking that cause of the event?

[dull elk]

Short answer: not exactly. See the intro story missions in global (which one might've skipped) where Yvette literally almost freezes Kanami.

[fickle shell]

Ooo thanks!

[fickle shell]

And yeah! Why is she holding hands with her if they’re supposed to be opposing factions? Is Kanami who Michelle saw at the carnival?

[dull elk]

The simple explanation is that event artwork isn't reflective of in-game lore.

[waxen latch]

Yeah it’s probably not meant as canon lore

If in game events were all canon then we would need a story in how the heck Mecha Kokona came into existence

[mental trellis]

Yvette outfit bio explains it

[waxen latch]

“If I just don’t mention the bear, she’ll pay for my ice cream”

[wraith parrot]

If you're in a theme park, and you saw someone like Taylor Swift going around
You ain't just gonna scream "Terrorist"

[waxen latch]

But you could

[wraith parrot]

But you'd die

From the fans

[waxen latch]

Nuh uh I’d win

And in Strinova you can’t really die unless it’s the collapse syndrome

[cosmic saffron]

fire beat paper

[topaz mountain]

Da
Bomb

[tepid helm]

You know that they can reconstruct the destroyed body right? Like Kokona's ult

[graceful crown]

bro's learning fast

[grave pebble]

hi guys i see people mention a manga sometimes, is there a place to read that translated?

[tough badger]

no official translation I think

[wise palm]

There is a fan translation underway last time I checked.

[tough badger]

where do you find it?

[wise palm]

Don’t think they’ve released anything yet, just brought up the effort.

[ashen otter]

Translating has been done though it's going through some final English revisions or should be, and I'm lazy and slow with editing/typing. I'm hoping to have it all finished end of March or April.

Will be posting it on the usual sites like mangadex and batoto

[grave pebble]

looking forward to seeing your work

[wicked gulch]

huh?
Manga?

is there something i should know?

[blazing pewter]

Not mandatory

But yeah the game does have a manhua

[wicked gulch]

where can i find it?

[noble creek]

english, chapter 1:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/1wxJngkVu_aab51A0f8HGJm2HpdAOduPF
chinese, all chapters:
https://www.twmanga.com/comic/chapter/qialabiqiuzhongjiangyinglaidemingtian-wusebishenjianzhenyixiquejiaochuanqingyu/0_0.html

[wicked gulch]

our lord and saviour

can't wait for more translated stuff

[dull elk]

Elaboration: not mandatory because you don't really need to know the background to enjoy gameplay and the game hasn't done much with story for the past few months, but it will give you a much better primer to "what is this world, what's going on, why are these people fighting."

As mentioned on multiple occasions, there is no FULL English translation of the manhwa yet. That is still a WIP.

[spice fractal]

So do we canonincally not know Scissors and what they are fighting for

[misty storm]

no it was more like "they were there?" type of thing

I think there was some type of context thing within Michele's skin description

[spice fractal]

ah I see

[regal spoke]

Navigator knows, he just feels suprised there

[sleek remnant]

When she says the scissors she meant lesbians

[ripe ledge]

minecraft font!

[fathom hawk]

This was bc she spotted kanami btw

[ripe ledge]

more like made out with

[fathom hawk]

who had earlier invited navigator with a ticket

who gave said ticket to yvette

which is why the meme is that kanami hates yvette

for stealing her date

[dark garnet]

Yvette

[graceful crown]

Anyone knows what Audrey's gun is? Best guess it's M60 since it doesn't have the muzzle booster and the distinctive forend of the MG42/MG3

The back silhouette is very similar to both though

[dull elk]

It's not the M60, it's the MG42 based on appearance.

The backend of Audrey's gun doesn't look too M60, and the MG42 did have a variant that uses a drum mag like Audrey's does (instead of the more prototypical ammo belt).

[graceful crown]

The reason I don't consider it MG42 is it lacks the muzzlebooster and the rectangle cuts. The m60's top cover is almost an exact copy to the mg42

Wait they kinda bubbad the rectangular holes

It has it but it's trapezoidal

But it doesn't have the muzzlebooster

[dull elk]

It's closer to an MG42 than an M60. And also, I'm pretty confident part of the weapon identification is supported by the fact datamining also tags some of the weapons as such.

[graceful crown]

Oh it's been mined? It is indeed closer to MG42 looking at the front. They forgot the cone though. That's required for the gun to work properly

[waxen latch]

Read chapter 1. Pretty cool translation! Can’t wait to read the rest eventually

[bleak plover]

it could be a modern MG3

[dull elk]

(just checked, it is tagged as an MG42 in the files)

[waxen latch]

What if we got a character whose primary weapon was a rocket launcher

[dull elk]

The translation there AFAIK is a direct translation from Google Translate or an equivalent translation software. Give you enough of an idea, but it's not the most precise due to, well, translator jank.

[waxen latch]

Hmm makes sense. I did see a few statements that were a bit off but I still get it

[graceful crown]

I mean the mg3 is a slightly upgraded and rechambered MG42. It's still practically an mg42

[echo ridge]

To further : most modern machine guns are just MG34/42 actions

[graceful crown]

34 is very different from 42

Oh wait

I get it

But then most MG's were short recoil ever since the maxim. The way they did it was different though

Now the minimi is gas operated

Dunno about the mag

[waxen latch]

Which faction do you guys like the most? Just curious

[knotty geyser]

personally love characters from both factions and am not that caught up in the lore so i guess i'm pretty neutral? gotta protect kokona at all cost tho XD

[waxen latch]

Eh fair

And tbh every side has their own beliefs about what should be done about the world

But I like everyone in one way or another

But Kokona must be protected

[knotty geyser]

indeed protect da baby

[waxen latch]

Tbh I’m surprised she’s a mentor despite how young she looks, but I guess age isn’t really a thing in this universe

[knotty geyser]

isnt she 18? pretty sure all characters are like 18-19

[dull elk]

Age ranges for characters are stuff that's datamined and not really official.

[waxen latch]

Hm I see

[dull elk]

And one of the shticks of Strinova as an alternate dimension is basically "yeah, aging isn't really a thing."

[waxen latch]

Yeah, everyone is a digital consciousness that’s been uploaded

No real physical natural aging there

[knotty geyser]

ah alright friend of mine said they were all 18 but could be wrong again not really caught up in all the lore stuff, i just thing kokona is too cute and i need protec

[waxen latch]

Yes she’s very cute

Almost makes me want to play a support sniper even tho I know that’s not my play style at all

[knotty geyser]

i'm a sup sniper ALL THE TIME

[waxen latch]

Good for you lol

[dull elk]

Age range is 16 (Eika/Fuchsia/Michele/Maddelena) to 26 (Flavia).

[knotty geyser]

fair fuchsia does seem like she could be a 16 yo badass

[waxen latch]

Huh okay

Probably shouldn’t be surprised that Michele and Maddelena are teens, but guess I thought they’d be older cause 16 year olds regularly using guns is weird to me

[waxen latch]

She definitely has the attitude for it

Only character I was certain of being a teen was Eika cause the game keeps highlighting that she’s a high schooler

In a band

[knotty geyser]

well its a different universe with some big war thing going on so makes sense to me (a anime loving young adult)

[waxen latch]

True, I guess

[dull elk]

Yeah, and the age thing is very much something that seems more like an afterthought if anything else.

[waxen latch]

Situation is extreme, so conventional rules of our reality don’t really apply

[knotty geyser]

i mean if they are good at what they do i don't think the government would care irl either

[waxen latch]

Probably

I mean if they have the skills, then they just need the training

[knotty geyser]

thats society now a days so makes sense

[austere parrot]

Iirc according to the datamines youngest was 16 oldest was 26

[knotty geyser]

anyway imma get a coffee and get on the game, i need to work on unlocking kokonas new skin!

[knotty geyser]

thanks!

[waxen latch]

Good luck! It’s really cool

Tho I don’t wanna spend for a Gacha skin for a character I don’t own or would really play well so I don’t need it

Also got her biker skin from Gacha so yeah lol

[near axle]

Should have spent 150 bucks in the first hour of her release smhsmh

[knotty geyser]

i don't have that kiind of money XD also was asleep when that happened

[waxen latch]

Give the devs 10 Strinillion dollars

[near axle]

I was up until she released

Hit hard pity twice 💀 and got off

[knotty geyser]

sadly i had work XD

buuut i also make it a point not to spend fortunes on games so the game pass is as far as i'll go in spending on it.

[waxen latch]

I’m just not willing to drop $100 for a gacha skin lol

[waxen latch]

Yeah, get battle pass or monthly login thing

[knotty geyser]

yep

[austere parrot]

I got the skin in my first 10 roll, still trying for the kokona wep

[waxen latch]

Epic

[knotty geyser]

dang how lucky! i already rolled twice and didn't even get any of the skins

[austere parrot]

I think im at 44 rolls til pity

[knotty geyser]

tho i've been busy so not much time to play sadly

so imma go grind XD

bye bye! was nice talking to you all

[waxen latch]

Bye! Have fun

[graceful crown]

Strinova ages are weird. Assuming they all entered at the same time, there is a good amount they are more than 100 if the thing about collapse syndrome is not a turn ofnphrase

[waxen latch]

Yeah, it’s hard to speculate

But I guess we can just give them ages that fit their appearance/character to make it easier for us to understand them

[graceful crown]

@copper dirge

[somber turtle]

What if scenario to make someone change faction that is also applied in game:

Lawine after a lot of deep thought and consideration for herself(because of her past haunting her), decides to leave Scissors and join in Urbino with Scissors respecting her decision under the agreement that she has her door open for them.

What do you think of this scenario? (I am thinking of this since I want defense to also have another Lawine for info gathering especially on retakes)

[grave pebble]

the "lawine" for defense is basically galatea. she's useful on maps like port euler since she can get some early info and have the team 5-stack the location enemies are going

but having an extremely viable vanguard would make defense way too op, it's why we only have vague abilities for it

[somber turtle]

Yeah but galatea isn’t much value of a scan. And I am wondering if both sides will have a scan

Like a sova dart that will help the team

[grave pebble]

but from a lore pov i think lawine in urbino could be interesting and im curious how her seriousness would clash with the goofyness of urbino

[somber turtle]

Lawine has her trouble of her past. It’s the past that haunts her and her being in scissors may be a part of it.

But she has a mission to expose pus hypocrisy, and if ever her hesitation has her lead to the point of deliberation

She may consider urbino, but that is a what if situation

And with her wanting to return home and urbino aiming for interdimensional travel, she may consider it since while she is in scissors, she still has her doubts

[ripe ledge]

what if.. lawine goofed off

[graceful crown]

That's when strinova actually dies

[somber turtle]

She is a workaholic type. She prioritizes mission so not happening

But if ever, it’s a paradox

[ripe ledge]

ok.. but what if...

its her bday... and the entirely of urbino surprises her...

[grave pebble]

i genuinely think in urbino shed be forced into goofing off

like

the straight man and funny man archetype

[somber turtle]

Ah. That could be possible.

Someone has to be the intellectual in a group of goofs

[grave pebble]

urbino just isnt aligned well enough that lawine could stay as serious and be taken well, seriously. celestia wants to help collapse patients, galatea literally just wants money, maddie wants a safe place for her art, their leader is a dashing dumbass that holds freedom as important above all else

if she went in there like "we have to reveal the truth to everyone" im sure urbino would just be like "can you chill lol we're playing just dance rn"

[somber turtle]

Well, it is the same urbino that hired fuchsia, a mercenary who does things as part of her job

A hired assassin at that

[grave pebble]

and im surprised she keeps her cool girl persona. then you see her gap moe with her obsession with shark plushes and it makes sense

[somber turtle]

Yeah, Celestia or the facility gave her that for her services in assisting in there

Hmmm come to think of it, Lawine in urbino will probably see Fuchsia and ask her “Is this normal?” and Fuchsia will probably say “Don’t ask me. I don’t know either”

[grave pebble]

yeah 😭 they'd probably get along best

[somber turtle]

Hired assassin, and literal blade. Yeah that’s a combo right there

[grave pebble]

i think she'd also get along well with audrey since audrey is a little serious!

kinda implied they have something since lawine has voicelines

[somber turtle]

oh yeah they have connections

they both praise each other when either gets a kill

with lawine describing audrey as "combat idiot"

and if either eliminate each other, lawine will taunt audrey, and audrey mentions that lawine owes her

[ripe ledge]

thats what im sayin 😭

"hello lawine!"
"There's strength in numbers!"
"..."

[tepid helm]

In terms of gameplay, defense can have a scan (that shared to the team) only if the scan is not wallhack

[timid basin]

wouldve been nice if the enemy scan is like the UAV style in cod games

it just shows in your minmap instead of literal wallhacking

[graceful crown]

good idea for ult. whole map scans though are op

[timid basin]

maybe Circumferential scans would even it out

[graceful crown]

so fuchsia?

[timid basin]

kinda like fuschia

[graceful crown]

wall hacks are funny though. people shoot at walls when smoked

[timid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

[wraith parrot]

Can't wall hack when half the game has wallhacls for skills

[tepid helm]

It's more something like thrown wallhacks that scan through walls like Lawine's knife specifically that defense can't have (something like Galatea's or Kanami's is still quite ok)

If defense has a vanguard character, I believe their skill would be something like a walking drone, similar like Fay but designed specifically for that (not like Fay that is also used for taking control sites)

[midnight talon]

its only been an hour since

[foggy pasture]

so whats the lore behind Leone?

I only know shes a combat engineer for the PuS, and she might have the ability to make road blocks?

[tepid helm]

No deeper info as for now yet

[worn sphinx]

donde puedo ver la historia? solo se ve esas animaciones cortas antes de entrar al juego

[dull elk]

Habla en inglés, por favor.

But to answer your question, it should be in Career > Recollection.

[waxen latch]

What foods do you guys think each character would like

If they choose to eat food at all cause it’s kinda optional now

[quasi mason]

Michele likes this one

[waxen latch]

What is that???

Like a waffle or something? A pastry?

[quasi mason]

Melonpan

Japanese version of the Pineapple Bun

[dull elk]

Well, besides the obvious one of Celestia literally eating ice cream:

• Kokona is a bit of a street food connoisseur (see the Kokona standee bond item pictured)
• Lawine, given her background as a student at a traditional dojo, likes tea (also, her backstory)
• One of Fuchsia's preferred gift items is a Taiyaki mold set (it's basically cake in the shape of a fish)
• Both Fuchsia and Maddelena seem to especially like mooncakes (see the four types of mooncakes from the CNY-themed in-game event)

[graceful crown]

Audrey likes tea. She ain't beating the stereotypes

[waxen latch]

Cool

[waxen latch]

BRITISH?!

🍵

[wraith parrot]

Using Cake as an identifier for Taiyaki has confused me for a good part of a decade
Since it's closer to something like stuffed bread or even pressed sandwich

[tepid helm]

But it is a cake
It has the same mixture with pancake

[waxen latch]

Hm so

Why doesn’t scissors all wear masks

Wouldn’t it be beneficial to not have your identity known by the government if you’re fighting them

Cause like you can just run into a PUS member anywhere

Kanami ran into Michelle during the sweets event, but Michele decided to let her go cause friendliness or something like that

[tepid helm]

Some of the areas are not under PUS control

[waxen latch]

Oh

Just thought the PUS was everywhere

[graceful crown]

Iirc they can change their looks

[tepid helm]

Like Cauchy Street, most of the citizens there hate PUS cuz of mistreatment

[waxen latch]

Digital customization I guess

[tepid helm]

The changes are not major

So can still recognizeable

[waxen latch]

No matter what, someone will always hate the government

[tepid helm]

Well the government is not 100% good, like they have a secret weapon in base 404

And they didn't help some of the citizens when disaster happened

[waxen latch]

Makes sense

Pretty sure the scissors members are all people who got screwed over by the government in one way or another

[graceful crown]

Kanami just got seduced to their cause

[waxen latch]

Huh okay? How did that work

[graceful crown]

That's what I wanna know

[near axle]

Kanami went to scissors cause no sniper on attacking side would have been unfair.

[dark garnet]

We need urbino sniper

[wraith parrot]

Afaik, Cookies also use the same kind of mixture

Well, rough ingredients atleast

[echo ridge]

UGH. Next you’re gonna say that Santa Claus doesn’t actually eat my milk and cookies

[near axle]

I eat them :D

[echo ridge]

And you didn’t even bother to say hi

[near axle]

You were asleep D:

[timid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/british-briish-lets-go-ytp-picksurprise-gif-20455299

[blazing pewter]

Thanks

Can you gib a 250 dollar gift now

Meow

[narrow dune]

wait

guys

about the new event

i thought meredith was a cat also...

she has 2 cat themed skins

and people in chinese servers call her sandmao

im so confused

[dull elk]

As others have mentioned, Meredith is more jackal than cat.

[narrow dune]

so calling her a cat its just a fanbase thing

i know she has ties to anubis i imagined being related to him not being A jackal

[dark garnet]

WHAT

I thought she is sunaneko

[blazing pewter]

I call her sand cat

But it's not her real identity

[tacit kestrel]

LINK

[wraith parrot]

I call her Bodysuit

[gloomy obsidian]

wait guys I am so confuse, what groups are agents like celestial in?

[quasi mason]

Urbino. Baimo leads the group. They're the neutral faction pursuing arts and technology.

[gloomy obsidian]

Baimo leading the group? I did not expect that.

[blazing pewter]

He's the ceo of urbino

[graceful crown]

I am more inclined to believe they are strinovan mob

[somber turtle]

like a yakuza faction perhaps

they provide services...with some charges probably

[graceful crown]

Nah just my head canon because why do they need fuchsia and wtf is bai mo saying and what happened to the groves just gives it yakuza vibes. They just neutral funny guys earning money and reinvesting for the betterment of strinovans

[fickle drift]

I think the flavor text says Bai Mo's real goal is freedom. As to freedom from what, I have no idea

[somber turtle]

ah that, he probably has ulterior motives. so far that is a front.

from what is seen from baimo, he can be really sketchy with his disappearance from the meeting with navigator

and having connections with scientists like meredith

[graceful crown]

Wait, connections to mere?

Man urbino has sway on former pus people.

[somber turtle]

from his line when reviving meredith when downed. "you owe me one meredith"

imagine urbino being the front of being neutral when in future lore release, they also have bad sides like pus and scissors

I would like to hold the belief that no faction in strinova has a good side

[graceful crown]

Urbino is capitalist, makes them bad especially if you are a socialist country /j

[somber turtle]

heh. well if anything, at least urbino funded a medical faculty for celestia

at least that I will give it to them, she has a decent mission

after her mother and pus failed to address the victims

honestly, it can probably make sense that urbino has loan services

[dull elk]

AFAIK Urbino has their own agenda to try and pursue “inter dimensional travel” and hence leave Strinova, which would explain why they’re not entirely on the same page as PUS.

[slim holly]

Why characters turning into paper could someone explain it to me

[graceful crown]

Afaik strinovans are data in a vessel. Dunno why some bodies can string though

[waxen latch]

Just realized how many of the girls in this game wear heels and it bothers me a lot 😭

Going into intense gun fights while wearing heels is insane

[whole cairn]

Meanwhile Yugiri just going barefoot😅

[waxen latch]

Yeah that’s also not good either lol

Ming and Lawine did not seem like characters who would wear heels but they do anyway and it feels weird LMAO

[somber turtle]

well at least she isn't on heels, and from a martial artist, it does kinda make sense in combat

martial art people tend to be barefoot and she may practice martial arts if she hasn't yet

[waxen latch]

Yugiri is a martial artist? I ain’t really her that vibe from her

Frankly I can’t think of anyone in this game as a hand to hand fighter cause everyone uses guns

[somber turtle]

well no, but I am talking in the perspective of someone who knows martial arts like karate and taekwondo

and i think lawine does

she practices blade martial arts

thus allowing for close combat capability

[waxen latch]

I guess so

She uses that knife well

But still, not the best for if you gotta walk on glass or rough surfaces or something

[somber turtle]

point taken. I did talk about this one before. it was 6 characters iirc that I brought up

that has sensible combat footwear hold on let me search it

yeah 6

[waxen latch]

Also Meredith can float right? Less need to run for her

And Eika doesn’t exactly have ideal running shoes, but at least they’re not heels

Also all the guys just wear combat boots or sneakers I think

[somber turtle]

yeah they all do

[vague stream]

is this just

a QBZ

[umbral vortex]

i think it's an AUG A3

[vague stream]

But Meredith already has the AUG

[umbral vortex]

some weapons have been repeating

like ming and galatea

or meredith and yugiri

[slim holly]

Ohh

[somber turtle]

man how are you guys so knowledgeable with guns?

I only know classifications of it since I only played valorant for shooting games and seeing gun names are just so confusing to me

like when I saw ming or michele's gun, I know it is an assault rifle

[graceful crown]

aug

[graceful crown]

yeah yugiri has the same gun

[eternal moat]

AUG A1

[umbral vortex]

watching siege montages and being that guy that notices every little thing

i just read all the gun names

[umbral vortex]

i mean, ak is iconic

hard not to recognize it

[somber turtle]

I see. I am honestly a casual when it comes to shooter games, and seeing names and the variation of guns really surprise me to no end

I am no gun geek, I am usually someone who likes hack n slash most particularly with katanas

[umbral vortex]

understandable

katanas are cool as well

[somber turtle]

yeah definitely, especially when they deflect bullets, oohhh. they are sick

still its nice to learn those different kind of guns. it's not something I see everyday yet it's a learning one

[ripe ledge]

There are a lot of other games out there that use realistic guns

lots of other shooters, that aren't CoD

[lapis pike]

Is strinova just a eldritch realm where humans have adapted, and earth is not actually dangerous its just that perception of being stringified for so long has made earth look alien and desolate?

[fathom hawk]

i think earth got ww3 or something

[graceful crown]

people moved to strinova willingly because earth was fucked

and well it's a consequence of moving to strinova they need vessels for their datafied self

some interpret the lore from manhwa as humans have transcended dimensions to where strinova is

it is known though that not all can paper according to the Lunar New Year dialogues because navigator (us) cant stringify

probs mis remember shit

[dull elk]

Translation of the manhwa specifically refers to Strinova as a “multi-dimensional space.”

[graceful crown]

is tehre any mention to why only few can paper?

[dull elk]

Nope.

[graceful crown]

not even the CN stuff?

[dull elk]

Well, my knowledge of “CN stuff” is currently restricted to the manga. They might say it elsewhere, but I haven’t seen it.

[graceful crown]

btw is the lunar new year event like the first lunar new year event? was there last year?

[wraith parrot]

I'll guess it's a mutation to the dimensional transfer

[graceful crown]

like same dialogue

because if not new cans of worms were opened

[wraith parrot]

It's probably not them going 2, but going 4d
There's still a bit of depth on them when they're in paper mode

[clear cobalt]

They literally said the name of their gun

AKM and M4A1 carbine

[clear cobalt]

I think since galatea weapon is underlevel from ming, it should be little different but same manufacturer. Like it is AK 74

Still Kalashnikov

[bleak plover]

in the EN dub I don't think they explicitly say their rifle's names

[clear cobalt]

In Japan it is

[bleak plover]

yeah I know, which is why I'm saying this

he could be playing with the EN dub instead of the JP one

[graceful crown]

possible. do the difference seem to line up? it may just be ming's loading is hotter than gala's

[clear cobalt]

I think also there is ming line elemination uses english translation " let the AKM will destroy you "

I forgor the line

[clear cobalt]

I remember AK 74 has better reload chamber unlike 47 and AKM

[bleak plover]

I don't think it is a 74 though

[graceful crown]

what?

waht's a reload chamber

[bleak plover]

could be some other variant

[ripe ledge]

theyre fictional aks how can you even tell them apart

just pretend they are fictional aks

[graceful crown]

i mean the miniscule difference can be just how they load bullets i mean p and +p is a thing (thanks zach hazard)

[clear cobalt]

Wait

[bleak plover]

What if

it wasn't an ak at all

[graceful crown]

stop relying on the ai

[bleak plover]

but a highly stylized QBZ 191

[clear cobalt]

Well, that's wiki 💀

[graceful crown]

manual of arms and we kinda know it is an ak based on what people said that it's just shittier ming gun

[dull elk]

The datamined file identifiers just call it “AKM_Galatea,” but I like the AK74 headcanon better.

[graceful crown]

well the AKM should shoot flatter

[bleak plover]

I don't like the 74 headcannon because of the mag curvature and muzzle shape

[ripe ledge]

it could have been an AKM back when Strinova had a more realistic art style

[graceful crown]

and recoil less

[ripe ledge]

haven't seen old Ming, but old Madd's G28 looked way closer to its irl model

[clear cobalt]

Rightttt

[graceful crown]

oh yeah. they got really different stuff

[clear cobalt]

I mean that also tells reason of fast reloading

Also guys wait

AKM

Comparison

Checks out

[bleak plover]

ming's gun looks so fat

[graceful crown]

i mean it's more ak12 than akm but she called it akm

[bleak plover]

stop feeding it +p ammunition

I mean it could be a mix between variants

GTA does this alot

[graceful crown]

doesnt have the cut that worked as compensator

[clear cobalt]

Actually this can be true

[bleak plover]

they just mix gun parts to make an original gun

[clear cobalt]

I can see that

[graceful crown]

if it fits, it shots

[clear cobalt]

Kalash weapon are also, what do I say

Less complicated compartments?

Any parts can be use to the other

Cmiiw

[graceful crown]

not completely

between the same variants yes but with different ones?

[clear cobalt]

Definitely not

Also

What is Leona weapon guys?

I don't recall so much for LMG with NATO drum mag

[bleak plover]

looks like a G3 with a drum magazine

or some variant of it

[clear cobalt]

Hmmm

[graceful crown]

Ultimax. a singaporean issued gun

[bleak plover]

PUS agent with a SAR-21 give it to me...

[karmic garden]

ultimax 100

the 0 recoil lmg

[graceful crown]

like designed by someone designed made teh AR10 to M16 and teh Mini 14

give me a mini 14 or an m14 or a FAL

if we are feeling spicy, a BAR

if goofy, owen

[dull elk]

This. It’s basically almost a 1-to-1 match, just rip off the carry handle.

[clear cobalt]

Oh yeah

[bleak plover]

m14 new dmr character

[graceful crown]

explains the easy recoil to. ultimaxes are known for that

give me an insane agent in urbino with an owens and let the EN VA use an Aussie accent.

the other VA's they pick should have their equivalent to the aussie accent

they ability is just fey but rabid

[clear cobalt]

Ok so next

Reiichi gun is SVD??

[dull elk]

Yea.

[karmic garden]

the one thing they DIDN'T copy over from valorant was diversity

every character's skin is as pale as a ghost

[graceful crown]

ok?

[graceful crown]

oh. yeah. anime thin g

[clear cobalt]

Nice, I thought it could be psg 1

[karmic garden]

classic chinese games

[graceful crown]

imagine urbino sniper with WA2000

wait wont that make them DMR?

[clear cobalt]

DMR

Yes

[graceful crown]

eh its a police sniper

[clear cobalt]

Kekw

[dull elk]

Just give the Urbino sniper an AWM/AWP and call it a day.

[graceful crown]

they just do what they did to kanami gun, make it a bolt action

[clear cobalt]

At least my 2 raifu already in gane I am so bing chilling

[graceful crown]

fair

[clear cobalt]

Flavia and reiichi

[graceful crown]

imagine we get the hecate

does someone use the hecate?

[clear cobalt]

Nah I haven't

[graceful crown]

ok no kokona uses intervention

[dull elk]

Nope. Only two snipers we have are a Chetyac Intervention and a bolt-actioned Barrett M82A1.

[clear cobalt]

Oh yeah

[graceful crown]

i always wonder, how did kanami do that

that shit is short recoil

[clear cobalt]

No wonder kanami gun so heavy

[karmic garden]

the majority of new agents are given preexisting guns sadge

they hardly add new guns

[dull elk]

(watch Mara be the third AK variant agent)

[graceful crown]

is her stuff underloaded that's why it doesnt cycle

[clear cobalt]

I mean, this game doesn't give UMP for defender is a crime

[karmic garden]

mara has the mp5

[graceful crown]

at least give me a type 56

[karmic garden]

doesnt she

[dull elk]

Actually, that’s a bloody good idea.

[clear cobalt]

Bro UMP is so eargasm

[graceful crown]

or a type 63. i prefer the type 63

[dull elk]

(and then there’s me, kitbashing two fankit ideas, one wielding a P90, the other a CZ over-under SG)

[graceful crown]

(damn beat me to the p90

time to go back to carbines again

or the honeybadger)

[clear cobalt]

Any AR agent ideas tho

Honey badger doesn't seem bad

[graceful crown]

smg but ar

[dull elk]

Well, I have a third in the works, but it’s definitely a more…out there idea. A crossover, of all things.

[graceful crown]

should we submit our ideas to #1243528247468097639 like #1333831609140383814

[dull elk]

I’m going to probably make a dedicated thread for fankit discussion to not clutter here, but probably not now. Got a flight to catch.

[graceful crown]

aye. safe trip

[bleak plover]

I just want more bullpups

a Tavor 21, SAR-21, a Famas but make it the modern one

[karmic garden]

ngl

the famas and the aug are like the only bullpup ARs that arent ugly

[clear cobalt]

SAR actually is interesting

[bleak plover]

highly disagree

[karmic garden]

like they already have the two best looking bullpup ars in the game

[bleak plover]

the tavor rifles look really slick

[karmic garden]

in some aspect

[bleak plover]

Hellion is another cool bullpup rifle

[clear cobalt]

Imagine getting one slide in for their new agent after this urbino sniper

[graceful crown]

hear me out

[clear cobalt]

LMFAO

[karmic garden]

wait a groza for only 300$

where can i get one fr

[clear cobalt]

Ok wait

Groza for attacker sounds good eh

But I think it will be the duelist

[graceful crown]

wonder who gets teh krieg though

[bleak plover]

if you remove the ugly handle bar, and the wood coat it looks pretty decent

it genuinely doesn't look bad

[clear cobalt]

A man with a krieg, and I will gonna do every sigma memes when I want it

[graceful crown]

man. we went off topic

we should make a thread or something

wait

let's make a request for this guns

[bleak plover]

they should add different guns as skins

[karmic garden]

oh its a rectangle

[clear cobalt]

Isn't this just how gun enthusiast does in any games related to gun

[graceful crown]

as long as the animations work

[clear cobalt]

[graceful crown]

yeah but we should bring back #lore-discussion to lore-discussion not just gun autims

[clear cobalt]

True

Go make one

[graceful crown]

where?

[clear cobalt]

Feedback thread ig

[graceful crown]

here https://discord.com/channels/1182952140684136470/1342535172083552349

[topaz mountain]

where is yuri-discussion

[waxen latch]

Yuri discussion is very important

Go make it real

[somber turtle]

yeah I know, I am just talking as someone who doesn't know shit about guns other than classifications since I used to play valorant

it's always the case of me wondering "what is a g28? isn't that just a gun that shoots between intervals?" or something like that. simply put, I am a layman when it comes to things like this

[dull elk]

Created a thread dedicated to any potential kitbashing of fan-created Agent kits: https://discord.com/channels/1182952140684136470/1342687979491168387

[waxen latch]

How old is Kokona? I was surprised to hear that she’s a veteran investigator and Michele’s mentor

But I guess if she started at around 16, like Michelle did, and she’s like 24 now, 8 years of experience probably does qualify you as a veteran

Tho she could be way older due to being a data construct anyway

[quasi mason]

The character's real age is difficult to know, cause people in Strinova can live forever (until their memory overloads)

The age we get from in-game files are age that fits the character model size.

[waxen latch]

Makes sense

[tiny ermine]

to think kokona is actually an higher up than nobu kinda insane

[somber turtle]

honestly, talking about how they don't age in strinova kinda makes me think they are on the afterlife

well not literally afterlife since they still get access to artillery and lethal weapons plus they got afflicted with disease but...

a form maybe where all people in earth "died" and then transported to a different world

[dull elk]

Depends on your definition, it’s more of a consciousness upload to me (think The Underworld from SAO’s Alicization arc).

[ashen otter]

okayyy but then what happened to their og bodies

[graceful crown]

Probably gone

They say a minimum of 100 years before collapse syndrome sets in

[pastel sluice]

if theyre gone then what are the scissors trying to come back to?

[chrome palm]

That's a good question

Actually! Space Lab

They're trying to turn back time and save the world, I guess

[waxen latch]

Are they seriously trying to make time travel a thing???

Just go back to before the apocalypse happened and try to prevent it?

[chrome palm]

Frankly, I didn't look into it

But considering Space Lab exists, I wouldn't say it's not what they want

[timid basin]

is this what the scissors meant from "going back to earth"

literally winding the clock back

[wise palm]

Could also see them just studying the Earth to determine how exactly it’s still livable.

[bleak plover]

we should bomb earth again to make it unliveable

this is the only winning move for PUS

[waxen latch]

Is there any idea of what caused the apocalypse that made everyone move to Strinova in the first place

[graceful crown]

None

Btw where's our string theory guy? They mentioned about transcending dimensions which means they can transcend times

[bold swallow]

hi everyone im loooking for a 1 player wants join in rank
i have 1 slot
someone interested about join with us ?
Share you nickname for add

[quartz galleon]

this isn't the channel for this lmao

[ripe ledge]

isn't that the plot of ToF as well?

[chrome palm]

It could have been anything

But I'm gonna say the AI revolted

[ripe ledge]

@eternal moat

here too

[timid basin]

was a scam bot here

[eternal moat]

yes, 3 to be exact...

[blazing pewter]

Meow

[eternal moat]

[crimson niche]

Rush b

[eternal moat]

4 and still counting

[dense edge]

Someone said ToF

W8, does Strinova world trying to experiment a technology capable of time traveling?

Space Lab?

[chrome palm]

Yes

[sharp hamlet]

what is a Navigator anyways?

[waxen latch]

I think we’re someone who helps people with collapse syndrome? We’re working with Celestia to help patients

Here’s a Reddit answer I found about it https://www.reddit.com/r/Strinova/comments/1h6c336/who_is_the_navigator_in_the_lore/

[unborn ruin]

phineas and ferb after 10 years:

[timid basin]

"we're just celestia's pet in her room"

okbuddysuperstring

[remote lily]

aw man yall were talking about guns

😭

[remote lily]

it would be hilarious if the MC/Navigator has the same characteristics as Blue Archive's MC

wearing a paper mask and stuff

Also Navigator as agent when

since we're not going to have more male agents than the urbino sniper

[grave pebble]

navigator agent would be too bad of a play since itd ostracize some of the playerbase (likely the women since theyd make navi a boy lol)

[somber turtle]

I mean there is a reason why navigator isn't shown, though this is probably me stating "the obvious" it's everyone's imagination

as to who they are

[dull elk]

If it does happen, it's not anytime soon, since our player character/Navigator isn't even a Superstring.

TL:DR they're currently NOT able to turn into paper (which is, well, the whole distinguishing mechanic of Strinova as a game).

[somber turtle]

speaking of that, could navigator be the only one unaffected by the properties of someone in strinova and has aging like an actual human?

[dull elk]

I have not seen or heard of anything that could lead credence to that theory.

[somber turtle]

yeah it may be farfetched, got it from the idea where navigator could not stringify

which makes me think they have actual human properties

but it's just a speculation from me so there's that

[dull elk]

I'm very sure the whole "immortality" thing is something that everyone in Strinova has as a byprodct of everyone uploading their consciousness onto String Sequence Nodes.

It's just that some people are what the loading screen text refers to as "superstrings" with gives them enhanced powers such as turning into paper.

[somber turtle]

hmmm that makes sense. if I could entertain this idea, what if it's not everyone that did so?

for some reason, they are the exceptions of this phenomenon

[dull elk]

Given that the game has not given any major evidence (to my knowledge) of exceptions to the rule, I'm not really going to entertain it. Mainly because the existence of that would throw a massive wrench into the works of, I dunno, the entire conflict that's the central pillar of why the factions are fighting?

If there were exceptions in Strinova like that, that would immediately give The Scissors way more ideological high ground.

[blazing pewter]

wonder if the ok buddy sub is even alive

[somber turtle]

the factions fighting yes, but what if there's something else that they have bigger problems? I heard that there exists New Bethlehem and it's quite the talk before

and back then, all three factions fought a certain individual

that looks like yugiri for some reason

at least in the cutscenes I got that understanding

since michele and aika looked like they worked together

[dull elk]

That I haven't gotten to yet since I have yet to go through what CN story does exist. But I'm basically keeping any major speculations in check for now, as unchecked speculations can go in SO many different directions.

[somber turtle]

you know what, I will give you that

I have been going lots of possibilities in my head that may happen so I will leave it to the writers at strinova hq

[dull elk]

(if that's even something they're doing given the terrible onboarding of Strinova as a world in Global and the lack of new story on the CN side)

There's a reason why I feel the supplemental manga (which has yet to be officially translated) provides way better onboarding to "what is Strinova, who are these people, why are they fighting" than the four Chapter 1 missions.

[somber turtle]

yeah that's another problem, game support speaking

honestly I don't want to bring up this one, but yeah the game direction is concerning

[dull elk]

That's a bigger can of worms that I do not feel qualified to discuss too in-depth, but even to me, what "story content" Strinova has does a horrid job at onboarding. Which sucks, because the underlying concept is pretty neat.

And you can still have good worldbuilding even if you're gameplay doesn't have campaign missions/story. Might be nostalgia speaking, but the Overwatch animated shorts did a LOT of heavy lifting combined with character bios.

[somber turtle]

and then it went all crashing down

well for OW that is, you know what I am talking about

for Strinova, I think it has promises, given it is anime and it has a decent plotline

would be bad if it does flop

[dull elk]

(I swear, at the rate I'm going, I'm probably going to end up compiling all the lore knowledge and constructing some sort of "comprehensive Strinova lore" thing)

Also, goddammit, checked the Bwiki, and apparently a bunch of the characters have bio entries that are just ABSENT on global...

[graceful crown]

navigator's job description

[timid basin]

lol

[wraith parrot]

She needs to let off steam every once a while from the stress

[timid basin]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[wraith parrot]

Personal Therapy sessions

Everyone needs em these days

[hallow knot]

Im guessing you saw the cutscene where michele and eika stood in each other, it was the scene on chapter four on the last episode, i can give you context on that if you want

[somber turtle]

ah do share I am curious

[hallow knot]

how to make chat being spoilers again?

just in case people dotn really want spoilers

[somber turtle]

encase the text in ||

[hallow knot]

oop

[somber turtle]

oh double on both sides

[hallow knot]

aight got it

||so the story was in cauchy street, a city for crimes (you can say it like that) in which a scisscors base was located and where eika lived, michele came to cauchy street to find truths and flavia told her to go to there, cauchy streets were the first place where human was placed on when they first time entering strinova||

||when michele got there, she met eika and became her friends but the problem is michele didnt know that eika was a member of scissors||

||battle broke out between PUS and scissors when PUS decided to ambush cauchy streets and find the scissors base there, eika decided to fight back, wearing her iconic mask||

||(this part is the cutscene) in the end when michele saw that the person behind the mask was eika, she was devastated and they almost fight each other until an earthquake suddenly happend aswell as something big in the sky, and that scene explained the cutscene||

Bad english and only used googl translate to read the lore

[somber turtle]

oh I see. that's how it happened. then what about the scene where they looked at the same direction?

where they look up at something

[hallow knot]

they looked at the sky

i forgot what, but it was a literal cliffhangers

typical

and that was the last EPS for chapter 4

[somber turtle]

ah so it is conflict and then a cliffhanger

[hallow knot]

yup

they almost shot each other

[somber turtle]

I honestly thought it looked to be something of the lines of setting aside their differences when they look at that direction

they were seemingly looking at a common enemy

[hallow knot]

same before reading the EPS

as for the enemy that looked like yugiri

||all i can say is, the enemy tried to steal something from a bank that was owned by audrey's family, they failed||

[waxen latch]

Do we have any footage of story mode chapters that are CN only

[hallow knot]

BriBri uploaded chapter 2 on his channel

but not all EPS yet

i already deleted my CN strinova so that's not an option

and i only finished reading chapter 2 and 4

havent done chapter 3 yet, and i dont think i can anymore XD

[somber turtle]

really wish it can be localized sooner. I think we are a few months in since release and iirc, we got season 7 from global release at the very start

and we got the latest agent even, I think it would be best if those stories would be added in

[hallow knot]

i dont know but take this with a grain of salt, i heard they wanted to change the storyline

[somber turtle]

wait really?

[hallow knot]

yup

...can i say the reason here?

risky

[somber turtle]

well...perhaps the safer would be dm

[hallow knot]

aight

ill tell later