Expansion of the Game: A Step in the Right Direction

[glass cave]

The game is currently still not even in the official version (<1.0.0) but I thought that some of these suggestions could be utilized once the game has been "completed" as in its beginning stage has been completed. There are numerous things I would like to see added to the game including the following:

A. More Roles

• Oh boy, would THIS add SO MUCH MORE REPLAYABLITY to the game. Look at a game like Town of Salem 2 (another deception game based on Mafia but with a TON more roles), for those who don't know, Town of Salem is a game in which each player gets a role and each and every role has an ability that can be used throughout the game, and although it follows the same old cycle of discussion-trials-hanging-night time-(repeat), it feels different every time because you get a different role and so do the other players in the match. Some roles appear in certain matches, others don't, and you never know what will appear for sure. Now, of course, this game is not Town of Salem, but adding a couple roles would be a huge benefit to the game as it would make matches more unique and re-playable

B. More Players

• Remember, this is a suggestion assuming the 1.0.0 version is out and that the map has been expanded. Adding more players would go hand in hand with the previous and following suggestion as more players equals more flexibility with roles.

C. Neutrals

• This is kind of part of suggestion A but its sort of a seperate bucket since some people may agree with suggestion A but not C. This suggestion suggests adding a third party (Neutrals) to the game. Neutrals would have to be implemented in a unique way in this game as making a "serial killer" type character would NOT be a good addition, instead, I think that if a Neutral role(s) would be added, they should have an alternate objective somewhere on the map that they have to complete whilst being undercover. There would of course also have to be a 1 neutral role cap per match to prevent chaos.

Feedback Appreciated

[odd wraith]

ngl i love games with roles (tos2, among mods based on tos2, tos2 based roblox games, party animals space crisis) so i would love for A to be added, def as a seperate mode

[lusty crater]

I like the idea though as it is people already don't do tasks in newer player lobbies, making a whole new team would take a player off of the employee team immediately meaning less tasks being done.

[timber imp]

I can see neutrals being a thing with more than 8 players. Right now removing more employees does not sound like a good idea. I feel like it is too easy to win as dissident anyway in this game

[umbral crystal]

We are not adding role to the current game mode. Instead of having roles with unique abilities/goals, we want to bring this extra complexities through items and other interaction around the map, that anyone can contribute to. There is one different winning condition that might come, but it would still be completely independent from the role system, and possibly accessible by anyone at any time.

Regarding more players, there is still some final technical details we need to make sure of, but it should come at some point. Despite not being how the experience has been balanced, there is no reason to prevent that whenever we bring more customization settings (both session and appearance).

[timber imp]

I'd love to see more players! I feel like 10 would be perfect for this game. Maybe even 12 when the map gets expanded. I also would love to play with 3 dissidents but 3 dissidents and 5 employees is unplayable imo

Just a random thought but I'd love a setting where you can not see who the other dissidents are. Just to add more paranoia

[lusty crater]

... wouldn't you just end up killing your partner?

I guess if you have a lobby full of hider dissidents that could work?

but most players usually try and get at least 2 kills over the course of a match even if they are big on hiding things.

[timber imp]

Maybe but maybe you can figure out who your partner is and decide to trust him.
You would probably be way more careful when killing

I am sure this could lead to some really fun dynamics and moments. But it could also happen that both dissidents try to kill eachother in the beginning of the round

But maybe you can tell the other person that you are a dissident and they will stop.
Maybe not because they are crewmates.
Maybe you are a crewmate and you are lying to backstab him

I can see lots of potential with that simple setting!

[lusty crater]

Ohhhhhhhh

Omg that's actually a super cool idea, I love that!

Would be a cool setting, shouldn't be hard to add either, just hide the dissident tag next to the players name, can't imagine it'd take more than a few hours for them to code in.

[odd wraith]

and you can act like a dissident as employee, get a real dissident to trust you, and kill them when they least expect it, perfect

[glass cave]

Assuming another game mode besides vanilla was added after the full version of the game is out, do you think that other devs would be open to the idea of adding a mode with maybe a couple roles to spice things up?

[umbral crystal]

The philosophy I mentioned in my last message still hold no matter the game mode. Your role defines your goal, but will not add a unique game mechanic specific to that role, which would instead come from an item everyone can find and pick up.

[glass cave]

ok, this message pertains to alternate wincons. Fine, drop the Neuts. with alternate win cons. What about alternate Employee/Dissident roles that still hold the same objective but simply have some kind of passive ability per se? Also, I understand that Items can add a lot to the game, thus, note that I am suggesting passive abilities rather than active abilities since active abilities can be replaced with items as you mentioned

[odd wraith]

if there were to be roles it would be cool to have their use come through the tablet, like if there was a camera placer role and you can view and angle placed cameras from anywhere (as an example of how tablet would come into play for it)

[lusty crater]

I think they specifically DON’T want that. They want everyone to be on equal footing. That’s why the dissident doesn’t have any advantages aside from a teammate generally.

Are you guys illiterate. 😭
They literally say “WILL NOT ADD A UNIQUE MECHANIC SPECIFIC TO THAT ROLE” and the next two paragraphs you guys send are talking about role specific abilities, like be so fr. 😭

[glass cave]

Dang. Well that's unfortunate. I wanna see a SEPERATE MODE with roles . I understand they don't want roles in the main game and that's fine, but as a separate gamemode should DEFINITELY be a thing man

[lusty crater]

They have like 6 modes planned already and they haven’t even finished the first one yet. I like the idea but it’s just not a feasible concept right now.