RMT leaderboard sellers that are hogging top 100 spots in leaderboard

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What kind of fashion is that

[quaint valley]

Sadly it's hard to post these proofs anywhere since apparently cheating is encouraged in this game and nobody cares about them. Just doing my best to get some awareness. Sorry to disturb this extremely important sacred channel of posting character pics with my unimportant issue :)

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Ima be real. Rmt will always exist.

In any game

[quaint valley]

Easy fix, ban everyone doing it.

Top 100 leaderboard gets insta cleared and people learn their lesson. They are not even trying to hide it right now.

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Thats not how it will work

Im just being realistic

[quaint valley]

Exactly how it will work

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People will do it in secret

And you cant always prove it

[quaint valley]

It's a public leaderboard, hard to do it in secret when you have 4 people in 100 different teams with only 1 person changed

[green widget]

You cant bann without proof

[quaint valley]

Is right there on my screenshot, the rank 1 guy admitting to it

[green widget]

Yes he will get banned and be smarter about it next time

U wont be able to stop them

[quaint valley]

Np a temporary fix is better than no fix

Even the slightest damage to them will already be a victory

And better than doing nothing

[green widget]

Ok but dont do it on this channel then? Haha

[quaint valley]

No other channel to do it in

Reddit blocks posts like this

[green widget]

Well theres ur answer then

[quaint valley]

My answer is "accept that people cheat and break TOS and noone will do anything about it?

So never spend a single cent or play a game from these devs/publishers again in my life?

[green widget]

Yes thats ur choice

Dont take a casual game too serious play smth more hardcore then

[quaint valley]

At least I thank you for boosting this post with your comments

[white torrent]

I do care, but can you explain to someone who doesn't understand, how in this game does trading real money help anyone?

I mean we can buy outfits for players and vice versa, so is that what you mean?

[quaint valley]

If you go into sword trial, and press R, you will open up the leaderboard for fastest run.

The way it works is that 4 people are doing those runs for money, you send them real money over their site or PayPal or whatever

And then they invite you to party and they kill the boss super fast so you are on the leaderboard, because you get a special title only available for top 300 teams.

If you look at top 100 it's always the same 4 ppl on most of the runs, there are actually multiple teams of 4 people doing that service

Ofcourse this is against the game rules RMT (real money trading means offering items or services in game for real money)

[white torrent]

ohh I see. So people are trading for a title?

These are the types of things I cannot get my mind to wrap itself around.

My brother cheated in games when we were little and when I found out I was just like "loser" in my mind. I use to think he was amazing!

I don't know that anything will be done, but I do hope that the devs ban all accounts of those that cheat, but I am afraid that if the players that are buying the runs spend a lot of money in the game in other ways, they will never ban them

[stoic spade]

Have you tried emailing them direct instead of posting on the fashion thread ? @quaint valley

[white torrent]

hopefully they did both. I think it is good for those of us that never did the Sword play yet

[quaint valley]

Thank you for understanding why someone would care about this issue, even if it doesn't directly affect you and the way you are playing.
Yes people are giving money to these people to get invited into the carry parties.

And while I think that even the customers should get banned, even if they decide to not do that, at minimum every seller should get permanent ban.

[proven pine]

Lmao

[quaint valley]

It's hard to reach support in any way, on reddit aswell the post gets flagged by AI and not posted so it's very hard to reach anyone with these issues

[quaint valley]

I will do that today but I need to first try and reach a good time in a legit way to keep the rank

[proven pine]

Well youre bringing awareness at the least. Im now learning about this

[quaint valley]

They are so obvious aswell, just check the ranking and it's like 3 teams of 4 people rotating the last person to give them ranking, it's funny aswell because they are pushing eachother out so some people buy for no reason cuz they get kicked out by the same sellers they paid

[proven pine]

Ill chuck your post to my communities👍

[quaint valley]

Thank you man I really appreciate it

This was my intention with this aswell because unless the devs see that people care about this, nothing will be done

[sick rivet]

Wrong place to post. But a post that is needed. So I vote to give it a pass.

[white sphinx]

You didnt like...report the guy for rmt???

They literally post their email. You have their unobscured username. Leaderboard for 30 usd is crazy

[rustic adder]

😭😭

[rustic adder]

how about in-game support?

in settings you can speak to them

[quaint valley]

will do in game support now, i was sweating for 1,5h now trying to get better times

for anyone that cares, we managed to secure a spot on the leaderboard

[rustic adder]

that guy is really stupid for just admitting it like that

[feral pewter]

@quaint valley Have you tried contacting support through email with the pics attached

[white torrent]

I think they said they were doing that

[grizzled delta]

Hello @quaint valley I believe you're still on leaderboard run this weeks then?
Any update about solving the leaderboard sellers?

[quaint valley]

My friend contacted support but they told him to try somewhere else so he gave up

[quaint valley]

So yeah it looks like the devs don't care enough to solve this internally but want us to do backflips so they do their job and actually ban these ppl

[grizzled delta]

[white torrent]

We do find cheating happens, but it needs to be discouraged by banning cheaters

[quaint valley]

its even crazier this week, quick scroll looks like theres maybe 20 teams in top 400 that arent run sellers. absolutely ridicilous, and the devs allowing this just shows how much they care about rule breaking

[white torrent]

I need to run some of those but I am not very good in pvp

[heady prism]

yep

[quaint valley]

imagine 11 seconds meaning you go from rank 128 to not being in the leaderboard xddd, and still no responses to any of our reports btw

also these teams also run mixed with eachother so they put even more times on the leaderboard, making it almost impossible to get there without buying their service, nice control of both supply and demand :D

[halcyon steeple]

great

[quaint valley]

@normal raft bro you are in this post who are you trying to fool :kek

[ebon sinew]

Interesting

[burnt lotus]

I mean if you want to just join the speedrun discord for strats feel free to.

We stream most of our runs so idk

The reason why there’s so many Jena’s names on the leaderboard is because she is one of the faster transitions for our teams

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Feel free to join if you want idk

[quaint valley]

i have no issues with you guys having the fastest runs, i have no issues with people with previous knowledge from CN having the fastests runs, they deserve it because they know more, im ok with competing with them/you and try to figure out stuff on my own.

but you cannot pretend that the pictures i posted here dont exist. i did also not accuse jenaa of selling the runs, but to act as if there is no foul play here is ridiculous. there are websites offering the service, there is picture proof of the rank 1 team leader admitting to selling, someone is selling the runs. shouldnt they be punished?

[burnt lotus]

I mean yes ofc they should be. But there’s like nothing we can really do about that as of now. I think even the cn players had said that the devs do not care if they sell runs from what I saw.

[burnt lotus]

In the first place

Once they implement the same ranking system cn has

The boosting will slow down

Most likely

[quaint valley]

ofcourse but then dont pretend its not happening and lie in comments about it. like bruh.

[burnt lotus]

I mean it’s something we discuss like everyday in the speedrunning discord lol

[quaint valley]

im ok with grinding 5 hours every day to try and improve but whats the point when theres gonna be 300 ppl that just paid 30 bucks to get the title xd

[burnt lotus]

We have teams that haven’t ran in 3-4 days

To try and keep spots open for more players

[burnt lotus]

Yea that is an issue. Although there are not as many boosted runs this time on the leaderboard compared to the last

iirc

So small win but still a win ig

[quaint valley]

but this week the leaderboard is like 5 times as competitive, is it really just because you guys were shuffling members around?

[burnt lotus]

This weeks scores are mostly a matter of inner ways and a new build that we cooked up with umbrella and tankspear

Which did inflate the numbers of everyone who knew the tech

[quaint valley]

i saw a video of that, sadly i cannot give up mo blade so i just manually switch the tank to one umbrella dps for 2nd and 3rd boss pulls

wastes maybe 1 second on 1st boss doing that but it is what it is

[burnt lotus]

Did yall get pushed out this leaderboard?

Or managed to stay in

[burnt lotus]

Unfortunately mo blade is kinda just too slow rn

Imo

But when crit is maxed yall will be doing very big dps

[quaint valley]

we could have done 5-10 seconds faster

looking at this run we had and thinking about crits and rotation

but we stopped grinding cuz we felt this time was safe

also our healer doesnt have 5 point bleed

[quaint valley]

yeah for mo blade you need to be perfect with your blocks for instant charged blade

[burnt lotus]

Yea we set the safe cutoff at around 335

But it ended up around 340

Which is still good

Better than what I expected

[burnt lotus]

Yea and if it doesn’t happen

It’s kinda just doomed

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[burnt lotus]

Feel free to join here if you want

We share tech pretty freely

[normal raft]

?

[normal raft]

I didn't lie about anything in the comments, I'm just giving a reason from my viewpoint and what we've done to try to cut down on it

dunno what the callout is for

[gritty tartan]

We are all just salty about the RMT and how the leaderboard system works, don't worry about it xd

[ebon sinew]

its ok we are too since our memebers are being affected by it

[quaint valley]

After checking the server I gotta apologize to @normal raft. the comment you wrote felt like you were defending the people doing it, so thats my bad. As Alex said I was salty af cuz some of my team members weren't home the day of reset and they got pushed out 200 spots. Ofcourse I still condemn the seller in my post but I shouldn't have lumped all of you together. I'm sorry!

[quartz kestrel]

Hey just curious the badges we get from these speed runs are permanent?

[visual void]

Is there an extra reward for being on the leaderboard when it closes?

Or is it the same if you get on it and get outranked lager

[gritty tartan]

Yeah

[gritty tartan]

You need to get on all hero's realm & sword trial leaderboards (lvl 56 - 71) to get a cool title called "Supreme Martial Artist"