#Story 2 - Kaifeng
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ohhh i haven't read this yet
i wonder what got mistranslated from the original like in the one with tian
Saddly, I think it's just the AI translation striking again
Where can I found the elder sun after the 8th blue story book of Kaifeng ?
It seems like even if you reverse and re-do the final Kaifeng story quest after you 100% Tales and Echoes, you still don't get the jar of wine if you already cleared it before. 
you get the jar of wine when you 100% tales and echoes
its in the cutscene when youre there and he leaves you the wine jar
i did final kaifeng story quest then completed my dark surge
It better not be an empty jar or else
I first cleared it before I had 100%. When I learned about the wine, I went and got the 100% then reversed the quest to re-do it. No jar.
the jar isn't from the quest
its from the cutscene when you 100% tales and echoes
similar to how you unlock a final "tales" quest when you 100% qinghe tales
I cant remember a cutscene playing at all
in that cutscene, you arrive to revelry hall and go up to his secret room, there he leaves you the jar of wine and a note
you probably didn't do the quest yet then
did you click on this and do the quest it gives you? 😮 @floral stump
It just says 'completed' but I don't remember doing a quest in revelry hall outside of the shimmer boss fight
maybe check in your quest tab or go to revelry hall anyway and see if anything pops up
cuz after you should get this
I'm heading there now. I don't see anything in quests, including the completed ones that match the name
You get a key after clickibg the thing
Go to the top floor of revelry hall and u can unlock the door
Yes, it was there! There was no quest indication at all so it took a bit to find the right door, but the wine was there! No subtitles on the dialogue either. Maybe it just bugged somehow
Thank you all!
Ah okay okay. I think I heard Kaifeng and Jiangnan so Imma guess he's comparing
But I'd have never found this being the 100% pulled up no quest. I thought the campaign was the key lol.
basically he repeated some lines from the final kaifeng quest (what you did for kaifeng... maybe someone will do for jiangnan)
and then said that he will meet you next time in Jiangnan
Thanks!
I indeed await Jiangnan
But seriously you guys were so helpful. Very appreciative!
The wine is so important, I'd have been heartbroken if I missed my chance
Can any CN players here tell me if we ever meet Qianye again and get our get back?
||she shows up in CN's latest chapter, dont know what her deal is though||
||I beg young wanderer please just lock in for once and don’t lose to a mysterious gas||
can I ask who buys the parting tear in the restaurant where the MC loan the parting tears?
Wait isn't the house in apricot village or smth?
Oh the winter gambit! I remember getting the fish. What's the fish symbolized?
Yeah! The Stillheart Grove (according to the map) or Apricot village (according to NPCs) or "where apricots bloom" (according to Zheng E), is where Zhai Xu's family lives, and where the letter should be delivered
What is the next area after mohist hill in CN?
Ohh, I just know it's where his families live 😭😭 thanks btw
How long tang dao release ? 😐
He says the same thing that is in the note if it helps
Like it is just a voiced note he left you
Yingying does.
i think it might be bugged. i didn't have a cutscene as well. as soon as i arrived at the velvet i just got the quest completed sign
It may be. I was still able to get the wine though by going up to the second to highest floor. Along the wall was a small door you can open. I had to be like right next to it to see the prompt
indeed! it was lamb** from the north and fish from the south.
the south is for southern tang, and i believe the idea is that conquering the south is easier and will help them conquer the north.
also if i remember correctly, though i could be wrong, the north is colder? which is why it's meat + needs more resources than the south
lamb from the north and fish from the south
north also required them fighting through the actual yanyun — the area thats a strategic fortress, which is a hard task. them being up there also makes them susceptible to getting supply route cut off for the army. WWM Girl on youtube makes a good video outlining the decision for this. I think in either the 4 emperors video or the kaifeng final chapter one
When do we learn zhao 2 is jinzhongyuan
During unnatural omen I thought jin was another wanderer but after heaven fall I learnt he was zhao 2 when was this revealed?
ah yes thank you!! i'll have to take a look :D
@ripe gyro pinging yo uagain as 注销 gave more info <3
His outfit lol🤣
Thanks!!
iirc during the winter gambit quest
I’m confused what this is about bruh someone explain
Jinzhong yuan in the roaring sands legacy quest is zhao guanyi (big zhao little brother) as his wuxia identity
I just realised the character model for his brother in the flashbacks was big zhao
I thought they just reused it
Oh damn so he’s got some fighting skills too…also what even is the backstory of that legacy quest
The last mission in the current main quest is the Furnace one, right? The one where you have to kill the ||God of avarice?||
Technically, all of Jianghu Legacy quests are also part of the story, but the Furnace quest is the last qualified as Main Story
I am so upset that you can’t befriend Lucky 17 and the Wolf Maiden
They’re both horribly lonely and traumatized people, and both conflicts are based on misunderstandings.
I wish we had the option to help them
Especially since 17 is just a good boy who wants his family back
and the wolf maiden is a traumatized victim of human trafficking
We leave one bloodied and alone to clean up his swords and the ruined ruins of his sect, and the other shut down and stuttering in the fetal position in a wall crevice
It just doesn’t sit right with me at all
I hope those characters come back later in the story
because I want them to be happy and have more to their lives than sitting around in a dark cave sulking and miserable
Young master truly is dense one sometimes, but also they're 16, so it's reasonable that they don't have emotional capacity to deal with some situations
True
I still wish we could do something for them
We can only hope that the story will circle back to them (seems somehow likely for lucky 17, as he's related to major organization, but not as much for wolf maiden...)
True. I’m hopeful though, because 17 is a major boss, and the Wolf Maiden is a massive fan favorite in addition to the hardest boss in the game
Hopefully story relevance and popularity are enough to get them a happy ending
This game is so dark sometimes it’d be nice to see two former enemies become our friends and be allowed to be happy for once
Bro...one leaf one life side quest is beautiful
Yeah, ngl, I'm still not over the Qinghe encounter where YM gets kidnapped and basically trafficked, and only rescued by NMW involvement. Like, YM is silly, but there's no need to get that brutal with them
NMW?
The mc has been kidnapped so much that I can’t remember which kidnapping it was where Nine Mortal Ways got involved
When he got scammed in Qinghe and brought all the way to Unbound Cavern, I don't recall the name of the quest
Hola
am I getting the wine jar back or not ? Ik it is just a game but I’m getting too emotional about it 
How to fight maiden, after blissful retreat burned?
i believe you get it back later in the chapters
i think its after the literal final chapter LOL 
Oh with the old man and the poison gas that takes you to the ghost market?
Bottom right of Kaifeng there’s a quest that will take you to her boss arena
Or you can go to the arena during the hour of the wolf
Make sure you grab the useless lock in the ghost market so you can complete her story after you beat her and revisit her arena
You have to turn it in to her after you win
Although if you haven’t progressed the main story of the game enough you will be unable to even reach Kaifeng. So make sure you complete Chapter 1 of the story, and progress Chapter 2 at least until the massive city.
You can get it back after you finish kaifeng's dark surge
Okay I knew I would disguise as a guy, didn’t know my face will change too 
When the time yingying change her mind from helping lord shi for smuggling tang coin to helping common folk?
Probably when granny turtle remembered everything
Guys I've seen every sect's members in game but not 1 hollow Vale or Lone cloud npc I've seen midnight blade,nmw,woh,silver needle,inkbound order,velvet shade,masked troupe,mohoist Hill
I want to know if they just didnt add it or cuz of lore
Hollow vale is dens of zombie lol
can you guys spoil me? what area is going to be release after Kaifeng, and what is the estimated date of release?
There are some Hollow Vale NPCs at their "base" in mistveil forest, BUT they aren't wearing HV uniform but Sworn Cohort shop skin. Lore-wise, they're a group of people shunned from society for unorthodox (&dangerous) medical research practices, and some – for being infected with Sleep Puppet Curse, so there aren't much of them outside of sect territory
You can take a look at Roadmap on twitter/X or other social media of WWM for immediate next release, but in terms of big region updates it seems to be the snowy mountain near roaring sands
Hexi, likely new season next month
What about lone cloud
So it'll be released march?
Feb
Some people say they've spotted a few Lone Cloud NPCs in super obscure locations, but idk, haven't seen them personally
they should let mc date murong yuan
I have a question, will there be a new story mission?
Because I defeated the Lord who owned those coins and I don't have any story mission
new season next month
So there will be a new storyline in the new season?
Yeah
thx
She was a baddie sad she ded
Still alive bro
se aliv
Hexi next month?!?! Or nah
Fingers crossed, I mean hexi content is already in the files
Why we can fight wolf maiden in qinghe when drunk, but her place is in kaifeng, what lore behind this)
Give me Heng Dao
im ready to cry my eyes out
you dont, you drink and it was spiked, you end up getting smuggled into kaifeng and then left there
But why left us in wolf maiden arena?
What the goal for this kidnapping?
I am slowly going insane. Spent half an hour trying to find the last chest - WITH a guide 😄
... finally found it. In the dumbest place possible. I AM FREE
is there a chance aunt han will show up in the next region area?
I must be tripping. Is this quest actually available rn or is this some kind of bug?
This area is Mohist Hill 😂😂 i think they push the wrong button
Fym brother Zhao is the big Zhao ???
@fleet maple
Is there anyone else who has done the "To The Dungeon" quest that could help me figure out why one part is not working for me?
I keep restarting the quest but then it puts me in an area where I'm being spotted by a guard even though I was at the bottom of the stairs. I've restarted the game twice and that doesn't fix it either.
Prob not the right channel, but you can dm me a screenshot and if I’ve done it maybe i can help 😮
Thank you
I have finished that quest
Well if you need people to go 5 10 man raids I can help you
Though this isnt the right place to ask
Ok
#looking-for-group might be more helpful
You should also check your messages, I don't think strangers can request to join your world
Ok
Both Feng Ruzhi and Zheng E (2nd phase) use spears that turn into double swords, while Zhu Yu is known for carrying a sword (her sword can even be found somewhere). So, the question is, where did the kids pick up such an extravagant fighting style?
Think you get her antique sword after you kill her fish
Yeah, I have it, I just don't remember when I got it
But it looks like one of the normal swords, not like Zhangmadao or smth
i assume they learnt that from zhuyu & river master since zhuyu adopted zheng e too and ruzhi is their daughter
I heard theres an npc in kaifeng with yidaos model...anyone know where that is?
That's the point, Zhu Yu is known for carrying normal sword, not whatever the kids are using
Feng Yi, in text about their meeting, also used normal sword, and during bossfight he uses different animations from the two
It's mostly a "haha funny" kind of question, I'm really happy that they gave siblings a consistent and recognizeable fighting style (same as Young Master can be recognized for using Jiang Yan's style)
just to check if i'm understanding “an unnatural omen” right,
the prophecy is about lil zhao killing his older brother and tipping the world into turmoil? because of the idea of the means versus the gains, and he struggles with how he feels like his brother is not ruthless enough?
i also saw another comment about how mc finds out he is lil zhao; is that also canon?
Historically lil zhao is the 2 nd emperor, he further centralized song and made it very rich
Is kaifeng part of song dynasty territory?
Why khitans ppl still in the city?
its the capital
there’s still deals to be made, for business people. Just like today 
ohhh i see! i’m still having trouble connecting the “unnatural omen” quest with the msq history though, if you have any info about that? :0
it’s the #8 jianghu legacy of kaifeng i believe(?)
It’s just to show that lil zhao hates his brother’s forgiving nature
i see, is there anything related to a prophecy? i didn’t really understand what was going on with the flashbacks
Might be an omen that there’s conflict between the brothers in the future
From the flashbacks i think big zhao was too forgiving and lil zhao has to dirty and take certain matters with his own hands is what i think
I'm stuck on a quest in ghost light market
It tells me to follow the soldiers but at one point it tells me that the area is not open yet and I have to come back later
Mght be bugged cause it’s close to the new area that isnt openef yet
got it thank you!! 🫡
Once you get near restricted area, use windsense to find a cohort of soldiers going right/left/up different trail and follow the next group. Afair, you'll need to take a few turns with different groups
wait so furnace of righteousness is it for now?
well atleast it ended on a good note
nice how they started it with copper can be money, iron can be money
so can be paper and would be used in the future and maybe won't be used at all
shout out to apple pay
would we be going against one of dem brothers
also they had me and granny in the final scene ngl
WHATTTT
You can see her on her encounter soaring eagle
Soaring eagle only gives context about her past, you can meet her agian in the lu and mo debate wandering tales
She didnt die in the fire of the ship???
Wheres that
Nope🤣
One is an encounter quest, the latter is wandering tales
You need to finished her campaign and do her wandering tales with her bro (Li Shoujie on Martial Temple's bridge on the way to jade mirror pond)
That's a different one, it's in lu and mo debate where you meet her
Ohh you're right lol🤣 I confuse it with another encounter
Thanks for correcting me
I remember we can see her room (?) Under the abandoned shrine on the hamlet from the room under the temple, try to cross it and died immediately 🤣
I wish we can disguise as the villain 🤣
I've figured out,I just jumped till made it through
Does Big Zhou ever realise that we’re uncle Jiang’s foster kid?
Our mc intelligently avoided answering his initial question
Not sure if this counts as a spoiler but has anyone managed to make any cozy designs since we unlocked Revelry Hall as a place we can build?
You can try looking through #1448750662614782073 or start a topic there🤔
me honestly thought when he said how do u know jiang or how u related to brother jiang, I thought he was gonna be from the jiang family or smth
Tbf wolf maiden had a courtesan who bought and took care of her but her parental figure was never free so she resorted to working in order to buy her parent figure.
All that's left to buy tho was a cooling body.
In a way, the lock we gave her was a sign to be free. And is she really alone when she has her wolf family?
will yingying die ?
need help with kaifeng wandering tales - rivals and friends
holy f yingying is alive
Alive and thriving
almost had a heart attack thinking she would follow yi dao
Kaifeng has surprising survival rate among Main Story characters and bosses
yeah lol
whole qinghe campaign only the 17 alive
2 main characters dead and aunt han went missing
You can go to the Q&A section by pressing F1 and ask the Ai bird
did you manage to finish it?
I also stuck in this, so confusing 😅
for me its completely bugged for like a month +
can i try join you in co-op to see if i can see the npcs for it?
Sure!
DM'd u with my ID
yup
Do we know when the new martial arts that have been leaked will come out?
She’s alive, let go of revenge to go seek the dao
when will the 9 mortal ways base be released?
Considering his connections and power I'd put money that he has either already figured it out, or get will soon enough.
In the next place
I mean, he did ask YM about his connection to Jiang, boy just dodged the question
Realistically, seeing that Zhao recognized YM's style, in his head it should be between real kid, adopted kid and student
you're talking about big zhao right(? if so, I'm pretty sure its a yes because judging on how uncle jiang's is well known and respected in a sense in the jianghu, almost everyone knows that he picked up a kid back then, but they don't know who the kid is. A lot of characters we met picked up the fact because they saw us using jiang's moves
We truly are the best nepo baby
Legit we would’ve never made it out of Qinghe without uncle and aunty
I also think Big Zhao realised it despite us not confirming it. Nameless is a dead giveaway
Fried like BBQ food w that wooden eagle
Kaifeng is so peak
I love the political plot
Any1 know how to find the final treasure in cascading water ruins? In Nwm area
Try #🌱beginner-questions a lot of people are discussing new area there, this one is for the story discussion
Pretty sure she lived. I did some quests after fighting her where she was hanging out in a temple. You learn her backstory and it seems like she's currently trying to find her dao and is no longer invested in her old plot
Good, i want to see her w some yuri
I hope the triplets die so that we can have more trauma build up. 
as much as i hate these 3 goblins, i dont wanna have another qinghe, 2 major char death and 1 gone missing is bad enough
I disagree. We need more trauma. Like lots of them. 
Well....can we get lord shi killed? Thatd be more trauma
For him at least
Oh wait...he'll be dead
Isn't Lord Shi dead already after we fought God of Avarice?
I think? Should be the case. Either way wasn't Lord Shi fake
Das crazy
Btw turtle
My solem echo pulls says ill get a guaranteed legendary in 25 pulls
Ik it says guaranteed but I feel like its gonna be a scam
(Spent over 20k echo jade)
Yeah hes dead
Oh damnn
Guys the skyward dance is real!! This is not AI this happens irl omg its so cool i wanna see it in person
For the 9mw base area, can lil fu shou and lu be found outside of the encounter? I half expected them to be darting around the place when I saw this place was getting added in
No i think
I guess they didnt want to risk people trying to yeet the children
Uh. Where the triplets go after the story.
I like this one hehe
the base
Where is the base exactly...
ghostlight market
Oh ok ty
I did the new mist zone place and now I'm perma crashing g after entering
Something does not compute. IIRC game referred to that bbq party between the Zhao brothers and their favorite minister (where they seemingly couldn't decide what meat to eat) that they decided to invade the South instead the North that night.
But that happened after the protagonist went to Kaifeng and based on all the other events the decision was seemingly already made by then.
What r u tryna explain
so cosmetics are not shared in multi character?
Nope
nothing shared, no battlepass, no buyed item, ...
exactly as if it were 2 separate accounts with the disadvantage of not being able to play them at the same time
That the reason seemingly happened later than what it caused but I should probably reread the hidden story paragraphs, might have misunderstood something 🤷♀️
Guys I heard if we defeat guards in the kaifeng entrance we won't be able to defend in the future global imperial palace quest?
One of the players guided me for quick farm and made me kill 10-15 guards
when kaifeng imperial palace releasing
End of 2026
zanm
Yeah they dont respawn
the devs realized its a bug so they fixed it they should respawn after a week if you killed them
Did some dark surge collecting, Feng Yi hate is never enough
hm?
im late but after fighting the god of money at the end of it when granny turtle thought it was her son..but it was someone else's son coming from war ;~; its so sad mang..so sad...
Hehe suffer w us
His parenting is soooo bad, like why of all people it's his young daughter doing communications with political powers like Ember of East? She's like YM's age or younger, but while YM got basically picked up like a kitten and brought into politics by big Zhao, it feels like Feng Yi just threw his kids in open water to teach them how to swim
At least the three siblings seem to be helping e/o
Youre so into soft parenting
Have you watched any lore videos yet?
Feng Yi's children are adopted
And the whole family has a burning passion of restoring peace for the common people after what the khitans have done
They volunteered to do the political management, all for the common good
This isnt post-war, there are still conflicts you cant expect every family to function like modern society, its vested interest of one to say that gentle parenting is a good thing
His children arent thrown into the water to be taught how to swim they were rescued from drowning
Ik they're all motivated and stuff, but there are also ways to go about it without putting the children into political grinder before they hit 20
Good story from devs, awful parenting from Feng Yi
They arent forced
Its their own doing havent you get the point
Because they have a passion for something does it mean their parents have to restrict it cuz its "bad"?
Tbf he did let the dragon hall split into 2 cause he couldnt be bothered to manage the aftermath of zhuyu's death
Heavenfall was suffering and he couldnt be arse too
Being a parent sometimes means putting a stop to kids' reckless behavior. How is he supposed to read as anything but negligent, when his daughter is selling herself doing marriage games?
See how I said nothing on Xue Chou, another parental figure putting his kids in politics
Comparing the two, Xue Chou is managing the details & directs the flow, while Feng Yi really left 100% of the job to Zhang Cuo and Feng Yi to deal with – the management, the bureaucracy, the human weight of their positions
Yeah I don't think the kids volunteered to do the work lol, feng yi roached so they had to do it
I could've understood, if he just dropped the ball on one of them, but Feng Yi is going 3/3
Xue Chou's parenting decisions aren't good either, but compared to deadbeat3000 over here even putting kids front-and-center of Heroes Assembly doesn't seem so bad
Oh well feng yi was always a deadbeat, he's just not father material
From the little copendium lore he was a loser before meeting zhu yu
He seem to have gotten it together while she was around
The fact that no one won
Not a Feng Yi achievement, but a testament to Ruzhi's strength and her subordinate's wits
The foundation trials are bull hockey. I'm on chapter 9, and half of the enemies when outside the invisible barrier when exhausted of QI. failed by literally 1 second because of all the wasted time.
there is a new story because I started the game and I have nothing new?
Go to event, click on whispers beneath the moon to track it, then the quest should show up
Okey
chat does this confirm that mc live at 969 ce at age of 16
but why is it a blue mission?
I not sure how much time exactly passed in between the quests, first chapter we're 16 but im pretty sure quite some time has passed could be years
trying to do chess game scam in nine mortal ways base. lost after the first game, trying to celestial seize or use wind sense to take the chess pieces from npc's inventory.
using wind sense description says "cannot be obtained after defeat" and c.sieze doesn't bring up anything at all.
has anyone completed this after being defeated by him?
ah damn
repairing game files would be my #1
i lost > stole > defeated
Wish we can use his chips on any chess minigames🤣
anyone has finished Gambit Beneath the Shimmer quest? damn this is hard. all the bosses just coming at you
You can always lower the difficulty for the sake of quest or take a break to refresh yourself, or go grind some better gear
chat i ask Reddit turn out we actually at 962 but the game miss translating
lmao how did this even happen
but yeah we in 962
How do you mistranslate numbers😭
Shouldn't he be 17 or 18 by the time he reaches Kaifeng? I'm sure there is a Time Skip after the Blissful Retreat invasion
Cause MC seems a bit more Mature by the time we started the Kaifeng main story
Nah my character is an elf that had lived about 200 years before Qinghe stories and she's just been chilling with different identities
well why does the date still 962
I assumed we started in 960 or 961 CE and got to Kaifeng in 962 CE
well here the thing this show up during mc childhood. then she grow up quickly. so the time should have been past 962. but maybe they make mistakes put the year 962 during mc childhood they actually mean to put it during mc 16 year old age
It's weird how in 962 the MC is 16 but after the Blissful Retreat invasion he's a bit more mature and still 16
Unless, Jinming Pool takes place at the end of 962 and entering 963
probably
is it matured or is it trauma
The way MC acts in Kaifeng is a bit more mature compared to Qinghe
In Qinghe, MC felt like a proper 16 year old teenager. But in Kaifeng, MC felt more like an adult. Less bashful and more reasonable.
When will there be a new region and a new story chapter?
Probably next month or next season
o okey
It's unclear what year we were in during the Kaifeng story because Big Zhao also mentioned about issuing paper money for monetary usage instead of coins
so that year 962 and 969 mean nothing?!
There's probably a reason but there's no clear answer to it
TLDR: It's not that YM is much more mature, it is that he's acting differently now that he is not safe.
Expanded:
YM is in a new location, without the whole village to support him. [Ex: if you get arrested in Blissful Retreat, the villagers give you to Aunt Han, not Constable. He knew the punishment in Ch2 is much higher than in Ch1, where everyone were "on his side". Also, YM got scammed&robbed two or three times as soon as he stepped foot into Kaifeng suburb, so he was on high alert towards Yingying and little Fu, two of the Main Cast, for the best part of the story.] Who won't be less reckless & whimsical in his position? It's like if you move to a new town for university you'll be acting differently from your hometown school, even if it was just 2-3 months.
Not to mention the trauma he got after Witch almost killed him and everyone he was close to died/disappeared and few remaining pretend he's dead. This is also influencing his mood and attitude.
You can actually see some of YM's whimsy back in one of the quests, when he isn't in the middle of investigation/political action and is accordingly serious, give me a second to pull it up
The problem is with the year in the Jinming Pool quest description. It says 962 in the CN and 969 in EN.
Seeing how Emperor Taizu just established Northern Song in 960, it wouldn't make sense to strike Southern Song in 962
The quest about these two, you can see YM relax and go to his old ways a little bit
English translation is NOT to be trusted when it comes to comparing with Chinese text
I know this is a fictional recreation of the Song Dynasty, but what I'm trying to say is if Emperor Taizu just established Northern Song in 960, striking Southern Song in 962 wouldn't make sense. It would require them at least 5 years to stabilise Northern Song before they could start unifying Southern Song.
Isn't it like the point that big Zhao is experienced general, but not experienced governor, so he's going full throttle on military action? (Like with stopping Granary from giving grain to starving villages bc in his head military>>civil matters)
That's a good point but in a military perspective, 2 years isn't enough to strike another region after taking over the previous region. Which is why they are removing the remnants of Southern Tang. We can see in-game that Kaifeng isn't stable.
Characters have to make mistakes and stupid decisions to experience what lit.majors call Character Growth. It might be strategically unwise to go conquer with unstable homebase, but we do see that the court is often unreasonable (and gets consequences of their actions for that)
Even in Winter Gambit we see that all 3 of them have eyes set on outside, not even stopping for a second to consider local products (=look into local matters). And they get narratively punished for that
It is kinda obvious that plot shows court as acting unreasonable as the representative Young and Strong in the story all have some grudge against the emperor (Rong Yuan, Xue Chou, Zheng E, Feng Ruzhi, they're representative of young generation of Kaifeng)
Historically speaking though, 962 wouldn't be a possible year to start the strike of Southern Song which is why personally 969 is a more reasonable year to start the unification of Southern Song.
And also historicaly speaking Lightness Skills and extratuberculosis mushrooms are bs, but what would you do
Fictional Aspects and Historical Aspects are 2 separate things. We're talking about the historical aspect here, not the fictional aspect.
Are we? Everything within the story is working for the story and must be examined within the internal context first and external context later. Here, the irl history would be external
And also it's already established that the devs would stray away from history if need be, see Shimmer of South
The Jinming Pool description says Northern Song is preparing to strike Southern Song. It also gave 2 different years 962(CN) and 969(EN).
2 Years preparation isn't enough to start a war with Southern Song especially when Northern Song was just established after taking over Southern Tang.
And eng is littered with mistakes, and devs do stray away from the irl history for the sake of narrative, and the court was already shown as unreasonable and military-focused
For the sake of storytelling they will have to change many things. But the year in which they happen, they won't change it to keep the historical aspect in place.
Are you actually going to pull the source for historical Jinming Pool, or are you just going to keep insisting on "it's irrational"....
Bc yeah, it is irrational, but also even modern politicians do stupid, I believe in historical figures being capable of stupidity as much
Northern Song was between 960-1125. It united with Southern Song in 1125.
With the ship up in flames it'd probably set the fantasy world on track to catch up with irl history dates
But like
Are there records of the campaign that was discussed in Jinming pool plot? If not, there is enough in-game reason to believe that the court did a stupid
I don't remember. I'll try find out when I have time
I think you’re confusing something here, we’re in start of song dynasty, the courts’ eyes has always been on southern tang even since chai rong (irl and in game), but it was a matter of when.
Ah. I mixed up history again 
the date for southern song is 1125 because thats when they lost the northern part of their (then) empire, but song dynasty actually invades and conquers southern tang much earlier, combining it into whats now still considered northern song
irl i think they set out north in 97x, and they did start paper currency. Think of it as like this game’s take on a version of why they ultimately delayed the military campaign
irl: court wants to go for southern tang while its still weakened from chai rong invasion -> enacts taxes and such -> tang coin/song coin fiasco while citizens are still broke -> zhao is unsure if common folk can take it -> zhao decides to open up treasury and introduce paper money, depleting his military funds but relieving citizens -> military campaign delayed
It seems that in-game Zhao decided to generally switch gear to stabilizing inside after his adventure in disguise, as we see him change his mind on the Granary post-Main Story🤔
in-game is not much different except they introduce shimmer of south as a mastermind, driving the effects of the tang/song coin fiasco worse. Irl he was much more passive and just took his defeat, but they gave him a bigger role here — but the timeline rn matches with history
the ultimate goal for each dynasty has always been the entirety of what they consider china because unification is a big deal hahaha
I just had to read the history of Emperor Taizu, so apparently he didn't invade the North until 968
does this mean 969 is more historical accurate?!
ah oops, yeah then it might be 968 that he set out. Opening treasury delayed his plans by 6 years then
so our mc have been 7 year in Kaifeng
no, the court has always had eyes on south
Yes. The idea was he would invade the Southern parts first before invading the North
when will we get update
Chai Rong invaded both north AND south already before he died
That's when it happened, likely that preparations started much earlier
^
And we see court prepare, and have all their work blow up => setting them back
The great 962 vs 969 debate😂
the court would’ve made the decision almost immediately for “what next”
like if they were ruthless, maybe they’d invade southern tang by 962-963
we have to remember, southern tang was already weakened by chai rong before big zhao took over
so delaying an invasion could also mean giving southern tang more time to prepare
they’d miss their opportunity to strike while the iron is hot essentially
Winter Gambit, personally, solidifies it, bc not a single one stopped and asked "hey, can we get local products, why are we going for import"
Not a single eye directed inside😂
I think I also understand aha, that era and before them had so much chaos and so many “dynasties” turned over
the court (maybe zhao aside) were probably thinking “the citizens have already been like this for xyz years, whats another few compared to the prosperity we’ll have after unification” 😂
And that's exactly how they lost young generation to Ember&Shimmer scheming😂
They forgot that hard time produces hard people, or smth like that
yeah court in many times have been stupid, even historically (especially historically looking back)
I had to go read so many sources about Emperor Taizu. So at the end of the Kaifeng main story, it would be 963
Because in 963, that's when Emperor Taizu started transferring administrative power from the military to civil servants.
The correct year for the Jinming Pool quest would be 963
Close enough to cn 962, for a fantasy story
So basically Jinming Pool is a fictional take on how the military were discontent about the power transfer
And yes, Emperor Taizu did start invading the south in 963, striking Jiangnan first
Yes. He was leading the invasion of the South while leaving his brother to do all the administrative work
The paper money was established in 975 after he conquered the entire South
interesting, so they compiled some of the major events into kaifeng altogether probably for the same of letting players know about his legacy
This is true
Real lore lower always speaks ill of English translation
kaifeng is lagging a lot in pc
Li Yu not happy that he can no longer be Emperor 
So Shimmer is the boss of Qianye?
No, but they probably know each other
Boss of qianye is li zuo
Is the ghost lady the same as the ugly lady? (Is it the same person who attacked the 3 kids?)
No, completely different people
why my yaksha rush doesn't air bone mob
sorry wrong channel i thought this is general chat
Zhu Yousheng and Zhu Yu both have 朱 surname, is this anything or do I just need to take some rest atp
There are many people with the same surname but aren't related. Take a rest. 
Wait so what is next after we introduce peper money and defeat the everlasting freedom guy ...
I still have 2 campaign bosses left and i triggered the everlasting freedom quest line mid way ..
According to the game map in CN, to put it in the simplest way possible, we are going to Later Tang or Later Zhou. I forgot.
Is that the place of aureate village ?
its common for ppl with same surnames so just chill
I just finished talking to yingying after beating the boss, is that the whole main story for now?
Hey, I have a question, where can I find the hunters board?
chat if i lost gift of gap to the waiter at Kaifeng store that yingying trick us. how the lore gonna goes?. because we not borrowing money so how we gonna meet litte fu
Yes, in the next version we will go to the damn desert, called Hexi.
The plot is very dreamy, just like Shakespeare's literary style.
chat so granny turtles say little fu parents is dead and she take care of her. now that she have 2 other twin sister. do granny turtles only take care of little fu while unaware of existing of little lu and little shou
Extremely funny that the moral of the story in act 2 is just William Jennings Bryan's "Cross of Gold" speech
I think that's only for little fu
sounds like Spongebob character name. what the speech about i search it but it too long
He was an American presidential candidate in the late 1800s who wanted our money to not be backed by gold anymore so the government could print more of it
Question about the Gambit beneath the Shimmer campaign questline
Is there like no way we can win the chess matches? I literally can't conceive of a way to win
Also, does it matter what option I choose in the cutscenes like freedom/surrender? Does it give me any extra cutscenes to watch if I chose the correct one?
Nope. The chess matches were meant to be unwinnable
The chess matches were meant to explain how Aunt Han and her twin brother tried to escape the Liang Family
No matter how much they tried, they failed
it was an endgame all along
who is the young master?
THAT WAS HER BROTHER AND NOT SISTER?
Yep
Someone in the office said "bet I can metaphorically fit the whole Zheng E-Shen Yilun drama into a piece of jewelry" and went and succeded
ooo
The "cross of gold" speech was basically single-handedly responsible for him being nominated to run for president, it was a huge deal
Can i marry Xiao Shi
Li shoujie ask me to pass his message to his sister but I already finish the jiming pool quest so is there other ways to give it?
Can i continue the Ghostlight Market - Amidst Ghosts for reward after the Nine Mortal Ways Base event ends?
No worry, it's just like VS's Admist Flowers, a forever-event
You can give it to general shi
Lao Zhao!
Who is Lao Zhao technically? What's his background and LORE?
If he is the previous emperor, wouldn't he be like Uncle Jiang's enemy or something?
yes. silly me thought it limited time and i speed run thing up
He is the current one, see final cutscene of the Main Story quest. I don't think it was revealed yet, how they're acquainted, but it seems he knew uncle Jiang through his adopted father, Wang Qing. And, well, emperor has the same target of returning 16 cities, as our dear spy family
So why is he slacking now and playing around but not working his official duty?
he doesn't need to be on standby 24/7 + his working time is pretty early so you can see him out there in the evenings
Official duty takes like 15% of his time, the rest is either being bored or slacking around
The best job ever
Other than the risk of backstabbing, yeah
Looking at Heroes Assembly named cast, I think only Zhao Er would think twice before going for the kill on big Zhao, and they're like scions of their generation or smth
why some quest disappear suddenly? after the fortune main quest...little lu,fu,su send a message to collect some sort of treasure but when i went there...the quest mark suddenly disappeared and i couldn't find it, i checked still... couldn't
I just saw the Big zhao being the emperor cutscene on yt with scenes of his younger days. Where is that cutscene from??
The CN version
From the early build
So is it true or just a test server thing??
I actually think it's part of their imperial update/dlc that's dropping
1.3 update??
From the comments I've read, it was from the early version of the game but... I could be wrong
I don't know what version they are on, but there's an awesome yt trailer/promo for it
Also
I remember I saw a cutscene on yt where it was shown that tian ying might be still alive and he met some other guy(now in normal clothes) and they plan to go somewhere else.
Any idea where that cutscene is from??
I completed qinghe but never saw that.
You're not talking about after completing all wandering tales for qinghe?
Pretty sure I remember a little snippet playing then, once you click on the last icon for dark surges
I don't know if it's what you are referring to
I completed them all
But for me it was like, I completed the tian ying fight and a buddha statue fall on him, than a black screen and after that suddenly the floor breaks and I am in water.
Oh its after wandering tales
Those I have not completed
I am like on 80% right
Lol yeah
There are a LOT of content in this game 😅😅
I don't believe there is a cut scene for all wandering tales completion
Even that immortal deer will be a 8 stage boss soon 💀
is there someone who is already done with the new boss named drunk martial artist? what did he mean when he said there is someone who wants to kill the MC?
I think it's Lord Shi?
Round face and belly
yeah ofc tian ying is alive
You get an extra "ending" when you complete all dark surges on the location, that's where that cutscene is from
Hu Changyi (current head of Masked Troupe) has a ton of allegations around him about being a noble of royal lineage. I don't think he is the son of previous emperor – unless he has a "mysteriously missing" older child, his eldest son should be ~12yo during "current year". But he could still be a nephew or younger brother? Whatever it is, it's definitely a fun rumor about one of the sect leaders
How do you know it
Masked Troupe -> Legacy already has lore, last sentence is about the rumors
Ohh, I never opened sect info 🤣
Thanks!
Wait till I tell you there are little tidbits in Jianghu errands
For MB, RT, HV, LC, SN and inkbound their errands are given by Sect Leaders and have short phrases from them.
VS has Fireworks master.
MT has He Wanchung and Han Yanluo.
WoH has current sect master, Xiao Tianyun, and his mentor, Shen Hanying
WoH and RT, from my brief glances, have the longest Sect Legacy entries, with many people listed, while everyone else has like 1~2 people (HV gets a pass, Jiang Meiyan made it from scratch)
I think both of them are old sect since they help zhongdu battle alongside mohist
I saw many sects refer to older times, like MT's Lady Gongsun and MB's founder, but I guess only WoH and RT keep their records public
devs are still cooking with the lore of the sects
Lady Gongsun was stated to have led the Troupe into secluded lifestyle during/after An Lushan rebellion. If the dates are aligned with irl, it'd put her around 750-760s. Current year is 962, but there are no records between her and Mr.prince
This Opera is really private about everything😂
Whenever i hear gongsun, it always reminded me of elder gongsun (who somehow always get called whenever i tried to call other companion) and gongsun deng
Definitely! But also it makes sense for sects like MT and MB to have little public information out, they are very private sects. I think it's a nice touch to show that sectless person can only know so much, I just wish every sect had a little unlockable info like WoH with Wang Qing
i still remember how i got yeeted out of the arena by the kid and I did not expect that😭
Same thing! Tho i think they chose to reveal more lore of wang qing since he's someone close to uncle jiang and since woh is a fairly popular sect
Same 🤣 idk why i got yeeted
Probably yes, but it's kinda sad that most sects atp are more of gameplay thing than in-world thing and only reflects on YM's clothes & skills, but not their knowledge. I can't wait until we get all other bases and can feel the atmosphere, like with the rats and VS
Is there any known base location for other sects beside VS and NMW?
HV is located in some poisonous valley, MB are near in-world Perception forest, SN is somewhere I don't remember (I thing jiangnan? Zhu Yu's fans in Mistveil forest and Zheng E's home mention it)
iirc unfortunately no real confirmation yet (lets consider springwave pavilion as the base for woh for now XD)
Lolll🤣🤣 so true 🤣
At first, i thought hollow vale base was in mistveil, i guess not since we do skill theft in there
It's their base, but like... not the main location? Just like Zhai Xu's place is technically SN base, but it's def not their main place
Hopefully some other sect's base is like VS and NMW which we can come and go
I saw cn version got MB base in game files, so😶😶😶
I'm sure they will develop those bases its just a matter of time
Going back to the original question...
hmmmm, maybe not royal lineage but probably from a good family (kinda like xiaoshi/shenyu)'s case
Probably. I'll take a look at chonese text later, but chances are they used "noble" instead of straight up "royal" english used
Huh. Interesting.
So the rumor truly is that head of MT is some runaway prince
its not uncommon for this type of runaways, thats definitely interesting
It's even more curious when we take into account that it's said that VS and MT's Grandmasters have quite some history between them, with dramma and betrayal... and we can assume current head of VS is quite close with the current Imperial court (seeing size and prosperity of VS just beside Imperial city, and their involvement with important political events like Heroes Assembly)
Was the betrayal her siding with new court or is it some much older story🫢🫢🫢
vs is the type that will do anything to gather as much info as they can, maybe it could be the reason causing the conflict
True-true
The phrase that implies it seemed like there was a lot of interpersonal bad blood between them, so I was thinking up that lane. But it always possible it's their distaste for e/o's policies
i just opened up my douyin, and found a video explaining the lore about the masked troupe, a lot of details and stories are in the stories of the unreleased maps
Everyone on the same lorehunt wavelength😂
Could you share the link?👉👈
lores are never enough🔥 i can't help but stop whenever I come across videos like this even though I have been holding myself back😭
https: //v.douyin.com/-t4Q1zszJ4g/
Curiosity killed the cat, but we aren't learning anything and keep looking
How do I find him?
This is me after eternal introduces me to bilibili, i always checks out bili² after i get bored on youtube. Get some good chinese drama snippets and also watch wwm trailer and lore
Isn't head of VS empress of Southern Tang?
She
"General shall take the throne", I guess that answers her political leaning, lol
From reddit:
She’s married to the Shimmer of the South the CURRENT emperor of southern tang not Li Yu. Li Yu is head of auteate pavilion and is legitimate ruler of Tang Dynasty as he was next kin but tang dynasty was destroyed or succeeded by Song dynasty(current) and the pieces of it are now southern tang
Oh wait it's wrong lol🤣
i shall attach the video for vs (there's another 10 minute one but this one is the made by the same person as the maked troupe video) https: //v.douyin.com/7f7r3B-VvYY/
I'll be so loredense when I get out of classes
gonna savour them finely
We don't have Parting Tears, so we gotta make do
i'm sure ym sneaked drinks back then when they're younger
There's a quest in Qinghe, where YM publicly outdrinks an old man, i think they're drinking without hiding it😅
He's at martial temple or sthing, you can look the quest up if you still cant find him
ym is finally able to drink (without risking getting caught by aunt han / uncle jiang🤣
I think that's one of the quests you're supposed to encounter during Ch1, not after. I'm p sure YM said something along the lines of "I am young master of blissful retreat, I know how to drink" even tho I was past Kaifeng when I got to this encounter. The boy is not afraid in the slightest
They probably rule it by "he can hold a sword, he can have a drink"
Guys when will be new campaign released?
@wintry junco
Nobody saw anything, buuuuuut
There are so many graves, I'll go cry for a bit
Also kinda funny that Hollow Vale is just across the hill from Midnight Blades, their student probably can just hang out
It's delayed for translation quality reasons
Translation quality
yeah sure 🙄 like they ever do any test before doing anything. At most, it's subpar. "Small Indie Company"
According to devs themselves
#game-announcement message
Again.. "small indie company"
Seeing the current quality of translation, they better take their time
We all know the translation is just from google translate. If not for sign post, some quest would've taken ages to finish cause of poor translation.
age limits isn't really a thing back then
honk honk!
I doubt they give something strong to a literal kid, but yeah
+before pasteurization and modern preservatives even juice had a little kick to it after a few days, so it's not like there was a way to reliably enforce any kind of strict control
definitely not when they're kids but probably at ym age they would allow them to drink
and also since we're talking about wine there's a really cute detail from an antique (we got "sold" when we were a baby XD)
Jiang Wulang is so silly sometimes😂
and even though aunt han is annoyed but still feels that jiang could be unreliable and decided to take half of the custody
She really took one look at him and went "this 19yo boy can't be trusted with his own life, I'm not trusting him with a baby"
chat who is the sender it seem like translation problem
what in the world lucky seventeen doing at revelry hall. i don't know that he can even write
tho they really raised ym so well🥹 ym may be mischiveous sometimes but ym is kind hearted
What's cicada wing?
it's a pendant (the one in the second pic
)
honk honk!
Is the Ghostlight Market - Amidst Ghosts reward after the Nine Mortal Ways Base event ends? no way the get thier reward now ?
the amidst ghost is like the amidst flowers for velvet shade, it won't disappear
Just finished this campaign last night…Break it down for me like I’m stupid…
I journey to Kaifeng to meet someone, to ask them something about my vanished Uncle John.
I wind up getting scammed twice, crash a dinner party, sell baskets, crash and ruin a slave trade, and speedbag the God of Avarice in the slimjim…And this reinvigorates the economy…Have the high purple shirt dead to rights…15 days later all is peachy…
Don’t think I actually found who I was looking for to ask about Uncle John, but am I missing something…?
The Ember of the East has some leads about our uncle, I believe, and she told us one place we should look
Man I was cruising along in this game until I got to the Unbound Cavern quest 😭 ts is so hard even on easy mode
Does anybody have a work around or fix for the dungeon breaking bug in the Divine Craft Dungeon - Eight Chaotic Formations? The bug makes it impossible to hit the bells and therefore impossible to complete the dungeon.
Which is it
Is like like the one where you have mechanics to flood and drain water?
Wait…So…The Ember of Something Something…Was Yingying…? I swore I thought that was a dude
iirc you need a specific order and arrangement (you need to unlock the middle door first) to unlock the bells because you need to make the sound waves reflect to the door
girls disguising as a man is common back then, and yes you are correct
You can’t even hit the bells, the arrows fly over them no matter what, and they can’t even be melee’d
The one with redirecting soundwaves and spikes everywhere
sometimes the auto aiming is a bit weird (you might need to aim lower or move to another angle) but i think if it persists you can feedback it in the in the known issues channel
I did both already o7
I appreciate your help tho
it's frustrating because I had similiar issues back then with arrows but in a different dungeon (i wasted tons of arrows just to shoot the explosives)
Fr
I wish they would fine tune arrows more
the entire archery system feels a little clunky
I wish they’d play test their dungeons more
Ngl the quest where you gotta hit all those bells in a certian order to unlock the door gave me so much trouble 😭 so glad somebody told me what the order was because no way i was doing it while blind
Plus I'm ngl my hand eye coordination isn't good so I rarely use my bow
mistveil prison got me fighting for my life man
nonlinear dungeon with 18 chests, no map, no divine sense
I don't know who asked for this but they're a monster
wait until you see the misveil city
you guys i need help locating the shadow edge quest to unlock Tiny Adventure : part IV.. Help pls
spoilers for the coffin merchant fight ||"oh man that was really easy, I don't think I've ever first timed a--OH SWEET JESUS AAAAAAAAAAA--yeah no I was right the first time this was easy"||
Kaifeng palace major spoiler
|| aunt han took qianyes face and left ||
This is not kaifeng palace though
||mohist hill?||
This one is correct
patch*
I saw in a video that there is a blade stuck somewhere in the reverly hall? Is it true? After the shimmer gambit part
Chat is it true that ||Uncle Chen still alive?!||
Yep
We will ||see him again in chapter 4 ending and in flashback quest memories of three treasures||
Yes! This is true. It's a silly and fun quest
Ummm how do I trigger it?
what dis. i entered from nine mortal ways base using build mode lol. there was a cavern that wasnt ready or sum lol
Where is this?
Lol bottom of the base past the fight stage thing
Theres a cave thats open. Idk why they didnt just add cave wall boundary there instead of the message saying its not ready yet
so I'm trying to do the quest thing (not quest but the fan velve tshade thing)...and I can't seem to stand quite in the right place...laugh if you wnt...anyway, does anyone know (I put this in spoilers cuz...I dunno wasn't sure where to ask) if the coin fireworks ever restock since you're only allowed to buy two with coins? or am i cursed to just waste jade until my character can stop putting the fireworks in the middle regardless of where they stand?
And tbh the final boss was NOT that bad, idk why everybody was making such a fuss about it. All I did was have Killerblade come help me and we got it done together
How can you taichi him lol😂
is there a new area beside the nmw? because it teleported me back and said that the area is still not open
wdym how 😭 you just do it and chuck him in the water
I beat him the hard way 😅
yeah i tried but when i looked up tips a reddit post from 2 months ago just straight up said to use tai chi and chuck him in the water 😭
it's insane that it insta kills him
i'm just running around doing everything but the find little fu quest rn because of that stupid boss with the bird
Tai Chi instakills are so funny
I wish they worked for fall damage too so I could just chuck the aureate pavilion guys off the side of a mountain
Lmao yeah I was like this is awesome
Ohhhh gawd thought we never gonna see him again
Wish we can do this on mistveil city, mine always respawning 🤣
Bro just saw the chapter 4 spoilers, I can’t wait for new area there’s finna be more mysteries unveiled and to eventually
Come to global😋😋
Global is too laggy for me
can I Heal the man who is laying down in the clinic in Qinghe? Thankyou
Sadly you can't
Only to see his bag 🤣
Poor dude 😭
it's kinda funny how many plot points have to ignore the fact that we're moderately skilled healers
"oh man, everyone in mercyheart village is suffering from mysterious poisoning symptoms! good thing I can beat their blood contaminants in a game of yu gi oh"
We being a healer is just for gameplay reason mostly
I understand why, but it's still funny
So they killed off ruby just to replace her with another annoying little girl. What's with ths game and annoying little girls 😐
What's with WWM players and being devoid of whimsy
Hello
Buddy that's not the lore
Ngl I thought Ruby was a little annoying at first but she wasn't that bad 😭
Also that's your whole takeaway from the mc losing his/her little sister??? 💀
"Oh gee they really killed off Ruby just so another brat could take her place! How sad!"
Like I literally only ride Clip-Clop in honor of Ruby
They both have different roles towards the mc, the whole first chapter was the start of MC's jianghu journey, (mind that MC has been sheltered and living comfortably for his/her whole life before loosing their home.) Little Fu helped MC understand how the real folks out there is actually living, introducing social gaps, and not that everywhere in the world is living a life as in blissful retreat back then, it was there that MC started to see the world without any filters.

I feel like I'm missing something about jinming pool story. Why did ||the boss invite us on the quest and then just try to kill us once we inevitably learn too much?||
.
Maybe she just wants someone to stop her?
She didnt invite us, guy with the highest authority there was the prefecture of kaifeng, zhao guangyi
just did some explaining in the lore chat about her, I would recommend you to complete the wandering tales about her to understand her background first 

||the blueprints reveal she built a bomb into the ship, she didn't expect Little Zhao's scheme to sell the plans to Shu and then steal them back, and if anyone else saw the plans it would expose her sabotage, so she tries to take them from YM and then realizes she can't win and just sets it off immediately||
||but why help us get into a position where we could steal it? Would we have gotten as far as we did without her help? Or was she expecting to be able to kill us before we got to far?||

Also, since this this is the spoiler channel, is it still good to use spoilers for the ends of stories? Since a region is huge and has lots of tales
||she tries to delay us inside the ship, like when everyone suddenly goes on alert the moment you have the plans, or when the floor drops out from under you and you fall in the water, but beating YM was kinda her only option once Little Zhao recruited us to steal from Shu||
I just spoiler to be safe since you had
I always spoiler to be safe, and I couldn't find any pinned rules 😅
||I guess it feels like it would have been smarter to send us on a wild goose chase rather than leading us to where the plans were. Or hire people from the third envoy's region to steal it, so if it goes wrong, there's an easy scapegoat.||
||tbf she didn't tell us anything about the inside of the ship, like her dad being chained up there with a big wacky puzzle to unlock the office, she doesn't know YM is a lore maniac||
||if you stop and listen through the door after escaping the office the guards are seriously going "oh no! they solved the puzzle!"||
||Oh, maybe she just panicked during the whole story. Cuz offering the plans seems wild, even without the changes MY made. Unless it was a plot by Little Zhao cuz he was worried about her loyalties and needed the plans away from her||
why is everything censored here?
It's post-quest discussion and there might be some people who haven't played yet. They're just being polite
same i cant read tho
some of these people are so utterly devoid of whimsy, it's crazy
"how dare a literal child be kinda grating sometimes"
Lmao fr like thats just how children are

What region is Weiyang in? Where is Wen Wuque going to have to go to rebuild?
oh my gawd i gonna get scolded!!!
chat is zhao pu from Zhao pu residence is master pu. big Zhao friend.
Zhao pu marry to young wei zhixi

Fuzhou I think
I havent heard of any region named that
Theres 4
Qinghe
Kaifeng
Hexi
Bujianshan
I think weiyang is rather a province or city in one of the regions
||i know you read yaoi||
Yes I'm asking if Weiyang is in one of the regions we know of or if it is in another region. Like Jiangnan. Sometimes it's known as a Palace or as a District. Ember of East (Wen Wuque) is from the city/district.
Yea
so far there's no info about the release/teasers of weiyang yet, but we can definitely expect involvements of the major characters
Hey I just saw the Hexi announcement but I thought we were supposed to get the capital sub region first or is that already released???
Capital sub.region (Imperial palace) is just coming out on Cn.ver, that's why we saw the promo materials for that region recently. Hexi is the region they've got over last year, and we are just getting it (I think, in one go, unlike cn.ver)
The region I'm most excited for when it rolls around is Jiangnan. One day in the far future lol
hexi is being released over 3 months as opposed to almost 8 months as in cn
jiangnan maybe end of 2026 or early 2027 depends on when in 2026 we get imperial palace
Yeah. I'll have plenty to enjoy in the mean time. Like paper moon story. 
I really hope the localization is solid.
I have a question. What do these names mean on some items of clothing?
what do you mean names?

Maybe they mean the story relevant armors/weapons you find with special names?

yeah antiques have character story attached and the name is who they belonged to
Kaifeng Dark Surges give a great ending
anyone remember when the new bamboocut weapon was set to release ?
in March with Hexi
April
I'm talking about the outfits that are available for purchase in the game's store, and some of them have green and blue markings.
one has a name Delicate
I also wonder what they mean because they are probably some classes of clothes
i think it’s referring to the tier
2
i want hexi spoilers
when hexi update?
next month bro
March 6
20 days
Felt fine tho
Only WWM could send you to a doo doo kart melee and then make you cry after
Does anyone remember if Kaifeng story had any level gates beyond the initial 32 to start it? If so - which ones and for what bits?
In case any one is also wondering- seems to be 41 around assembly of heroes and 52 before Dao Lord and till the rest it is the same
i see

Is ruby returning in upcoming update?
why did you randomly post an image of her in the channel for kaifeng then lmao
Because it is the newest event in the chinese new year event which remembering her after she is dead and it will be a spoiler if you didn't reach kaifeng.
Makes sense
gong xi fa cai
how many theaters in Kaifeng City are performing Chivalrous Escort
Yeah
Yeah
good morning, we get new main story in the upcoming expansion right?
Yeah 6th march
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So, there's a begger child named Qi'er in Kaifeng. Anyone know if their Chinese name was 7, or another Qi word? They're also taking care of another begger child, and I'm wondering if we find out that child's name too
anyone knows how to get Golden Hospitality achievement?
no. she is totally gone. in the All in One event you can do quest where you will meet Ruby for the last time in your memories. very sad
There will be more events/memories w ruby in the future, i just dont know the exact context
Yeah she's for sure dead but we're also definitely not done hearing from her
hexi soon

when?

March 6th
march 6th is gonna be legendary
march 6 2026? lol
How many kids zhu yu adopt?
Anyone help me to complete the title " one hand holds ten thousand threads" , I need 3 players for that
3 i think
Feng ruzhi, Wang cuo, zheng e
we will have hexi spoiler channel soon?!
Ofc
Feng ruzhi is their real daughter not adopt
wait the story ended at us defeating the big golden guy right?
and abolish the money law
the main quest yeah, though the real ending is the final Jianghu Legacy
o ok
Im wondering where exactly is this child as there are too many npcs in kaifeng...btw I can provide an assumption that it may be Qi that means begging, or begger, but if that's the case then Qi'er will be a word that means young begger. Or it's just homophonic
Thank you. They were found near the temple where golden body skill could be gained. But they walked away after I gave them a broken umbrella
OK found him, it's Qi that means 7
For some reason my game cut this cutscene, so after flirting with qin roulin there no this cutscene, anyone having this issue too?
Is this bc my char is female, bc in this cutscene qin roulin refer ym as him(bc the char here is male)?
nah I got the cutscene as female, don't remember if they got gender right cause translation messes it up constantly
Whos the guys in white on the pic? I dont remember meet him during the quest
he's the portrait painter I think? you can talk to him during but he's optional
Mu Hanying on the first floor, one of the male Flower Messengers
what is Quasi-lesbian?!
Using "him" for fem.YM is a translation issue.
Missing cutscene us a bug, some people encounter it all over, not just here. Try to run "repair files" (through settings or your game client) to prevent it from happening in the future
Where to get key for box inside feng yi house?
Oh yeah i was wondering this too
I got this blue book of poems from some guy called Ao Sheng Di at the Ghost Revelry Hall. It looks like some kind of quest item, but upon completing the story chapter, the item is flagged "Abandoned" and I'm being urged to recycle it? Did I miss out on a quest or something?
You need to steal from one of his henchmen near his house, it's feng ruzhi's house btw
what's good @paper venture ?
I'm good, is the new rope dart good?
yes
does lord shi still alive?
nah he's cooked
it would be funny if he's just sitting in prison. mc was kinda tripping during that last phase
Plot twist: he was literally just some guy who we hallucinated a climactic three phase fight with as we brutally murdered him
he's still a rich guy. so if nothing else, at least we brutally murdered some rich jerk while people were starving 🤣

Lwk exactly what happened. First and second phase are likely real (lord Shi was allegedly decent in combat, egotistic and borderline a cult leader with prosperity gospel), but for 3rd faze YM was def tripping on furnace fumes
Hexi Hexi Hexi Hexi Hexi
can we still interact with the 3 Dao lords after the main quest?
question. who bought the wine when we go to get it back?
Go to nine mortal ways base; there's a small quest where u can hangout w them for a bit
That quest is actually for the 9MWs base rather than for interacting with Dao Lord.

Shimmer of the south
That quest in Kaifeng
yingying wen wuque sell it to shimmer of the South


Why doesn't Well of Heaven have one of these what the hell
scammed out of their emotes
Jianghu Explorer


Is that the end of the main quest? Cause I did that, got no more main quest, but someone told me I'm not done yet
That's the end of YM-specific adventures, but Jianghu legacy is your next stop to get the full story of Kaifeng
Oh, and where do I get that from?
Journal -> jianghu legacy (one of big buttons in the middle of the sccreen, mate)
Man guys, i love apricot village; if u do the wandering tales or interact alot w the npcs, the place will remind u of heavens pier a little; theyre making wine and stuff and our adoptive family is mentioned briefly among npc convos
there's a lot of nice moments in Kaifeng region where YM gets to empathize with people over having lived through tragedy
Yeah apricot village families got the flood and blissful retreat got the fire oof
Managed to defeat the formidable foe due to a glitch where his special skill.didnt activate literally until he was almost dead and thank god I struck the killing blow before it happened 😭
i had to look that guy up cus i forgot about him; last time i remembered, i fell off the platform
Yeah i think he's bugged rn too where he will heal no matter if you shoot the bird or not so I got super lucky
Man the boss fight where you have to fight four bosses in Gambit Beneath the Shimmer is a pain in the butt 😭
Dao Lord always kicking my butt
I also missed the 10th Shimmer's note so that sucks
Ah well I'll get around to it eventually lmao
I'm just glad I finally got that damn Little Fu quest done
Seeing that quest on my screen was driving me insane, but that boss was just way too hard
Like literally no matter if i hit the bird in time or not bro just kept healing 😭
Anyone fight drunk swordman in zheng e flashback quest?


Guys is currently the fortune guy the last boss in main story?
And is 9 currently the highest breakthrough?
no? we're on breakthrough 12
OOO thx I needed to know that I was confused I couldn't find anything about the breakthrough in the yt
You can check the multi player breakthrough level to figure out what the solo max is
Or just press ESC ingame and next to your portrait it says when will the next breakthrough be unlocked, so just do that -1 and you get your answer.
Oh damn I'm getting close to that then

This drunk guy i mean, anyone fight him during the quest
The 12 yrs of feud thing?
I barely remember anything
Looks like that quest
Yeah
🙏
Drunk Guy is easy to beat
I already did the souring eagle encounter and the eagle's shadow. Is there something I can do with Li Shoujie or will he just stand in jade mirror pond forever?
he'll just stand there if you have finished everything, nothing much happens after
there's another wandering tale (lu and mo debate) about murong yuan too, just in case you're interested
tyy
i just wish he'd get some closure that his sister got bombed or something
Hey, I have a question
when there is armor, there is something like block unlock
And what will it be?
FHugearu
I have a question, where do I find Zheng Wanong's son, Zhongheng? It's in a side quest Zheng E's past by the way
he's on top of a roof in the lower part of town, have to backtrack from where the first boss is, east side look for a roof with a jump point
Thank you so much! been searching on the ground for soooooo long but couldn't find
Do lu and mo debate
And U will find out ||murong still alive|| then😅
Kooo
waitt
oh i already finished it but all i remember was the torturous puzzle lol
yea some puzzles aren't that easy
why they show a lil snippet of this doing being evil like it was a dream?
was it just for me?

Are there multiple quests with her after that campaign? Feels like I just did a wandering tale with her, but YM doesn't even react to her
the wandering tale you can do before or after Jinming, but there's an encounter quest in Pipa Chasm that's the proper conclusion to Murong's story
That wandering tales only makes sense after jinming pool, they should have locked it till you finish the campaign
The flow is weird either way cause Jinming Pool starts like you're already friends with Murong
Dont seem like friends, more like you get called a hero after the whole kaifeng mess and finally got some respect


idk if the rest of the characters noticed us, but since YM's main introduction to most of the kaifeng cast is them sneaking into a private event, i can see why most people wouldn't really respect them 😂
so beautiful
Hmm


She's alive?
Imma go and complete all wandering stories
I wanna see her again

huh, random thought: out of all the bosses we fight, do we ||actually kill any of them? we never see anyone dead||
We should be glad we aren't killed by them
But void king did get owned
And lord shi too
oh yeah, i forgot about him
but it seems like a lot are still around afterwards
Cause most of them arent really bad guys
yep, you can gather a lot of scattered info through quests, wandering tales, anecdotes and more
not saying they are. almost all of them are complicated characters that even when they do bad things, they have a good motive behind it. but I also thought it was a funny thing about YM and the aftermath of their boss fights
yeah, i love that about this game. there's so much rich story, and even when part of the story seems over, there's actually still more 
Ym would commit immediately whenever they hear the key word aunt han/uncle jiang XD, then got swept in a much complicated mess than they thought, confused but still respect what they all wish
If nothing else, it really shows how they are very much a teenager/16yr old. Still has a lot of world to see and learn
Can tell that ym is growing in this kaifeng trip (in a hard way XD)

No, only lord shi


I love yinying
Shimmer of South is from Southern Tang.
He's trying to disrupt the economy so war gets delayed.
Li Yu, ruler of southern tang

My ||malewife||
Ah yes another one to add to my harem
Ours*
Ah yes agreed
Maintenance in progress.
#game-announcement message
I see
Is it finally up
where winds meet Who truly controls the Nine Mortal Ways?
What happen if i press yes in keifang, one leaf one life chapter 3?
Do i need complete everything in keifang first?
its main story ig so just do it
I mean what gonna change, its say something gonna change, it gonna like blissful retreat?
Shh dont spoil it
So when the right time start this quest?
Did i need 100% kaifeng first, i already finish all main quest and lost chapter, but nit sure with encounter and exploration and wandering tale quest
just start the quest

one leaf one life is a side story focusing on the folks, the sequence doesn't matter, so just proceed with it
certain encounters might need u to finish it before it can be triggered iirc
🙏
so i just checked on yingying she tells me shes going to her homeland and thats just the end of it?
Good morning




I love how Clip-Clop is part of the region entry cutscenes. It's like they're cementing that he's part of our family after Ruby and Killer Blade are gone. 🥺
Already sold him to hamstead merchant
I feel like Yingying's entire introduction cutscene is like "How fast can we make you see her as waifu material?"
I think she act like that so the main char less caution about her
she made herself waifu material to scam us 
Yeah, true... XD


Then what



Anyone seen this funny af meme about big zhao, kfc doing a collab w wwm cus the Kaifeng cai (KFC, aka Kaifeng cuisine) made him fat
1
Kaifeng cuisine
the food must have bee insanely good
when did we met yuanbao the cat for the first time?
ok i remember now it's the cat at yingying's house
...or was that first at south gate




We see big Zhao like pure monster in his prime , then what happened to him that he becomes that much fat & weak in current story time line
He became the emperor and had to sit in a fancy chair all day
Yeah but still , there was some more reasons surely
Well basically he went from exercising and leading troops to sitting in a chair and eating fancy food.
Of course he gonna become fat
Hmm , nice logical reason
They don't allow him to go out exercise because he emperor now.
He gotta sit in the fancy chair and deal with politics.
Those things change him completely
Just wondering when the global version catches that story time line
I think it take a lot of time
From the time we see Big Zhao from the time he became emperor is already a few years I think.
Globle version should drop more story continue update fast
Now days game become boring in point of view of story and side quest
As the emperor he gotta settle the chaos of the regions and that's a huge workload, not to mention the stress, big zhao ascended the throne in 960, so only two yrs had passed considering we are in 962 now
So he is emperor so why when anyone there don't recognise him and fear him , he should not need to throw chickens to save us
His appearance should be enough
To make them bow down
Nah.
Only the top officials recognise him on sight.
The common citizen only tells by how you are dressed and your entourage.
Big Zhao dress like an ordinary citizen.
The citizens definitely don't know who he is.
One reason is because of how emperors are considered prestigious, they're called as 天子 (Son of Heaven), not even the highest officials have the opportunity to see him directly, not to mention commoners, so it's normal that they can't even recognize him
Basically imagine if a CEO of like McDonald's walked into a random Macdonald's dressed casually.
They wouldn't recognise him on sight.
when that guy ( I don't remember his name ) give us poison and give us 7 days to find real thief of golden vessel, why big Zhao just order him to stop and say weare innocent
