⚔️pvp-build-discussion

[rocky badge]

and emperor dont have materials to upgrade guardian palm

[zinc coral]

Gets parried too easily imo

[rocky badge]

so idk

[ornate echo]

I just woke up so my brain isn’t functioning just yet

[proud nimbus]

honk honk!

[wild snow]

visual

[pine iron]

new visual iirc

[wild snow]

you’ll see their serene timer

above their hp bar

[rocky badge]

Rats will have 2 upgrade

[pine iron]

48. Mystic Skill "Drunken Poet": The cancel point of the first stage is moved earlier, and the resulting "Stagger" duration is shortened; the cancel point of the third stage is delayed.

[rocky badge]

just 1.5s spin

[wild snow]

the auto-serene

[rocky badge]

no more pressrue

[ornate echo]

That’s cool I guess but combos are already developed around that timer no?

Is it not just muscle memory at this point?

[pine iron]

you can do the drunken poet animation fast?

[rocky badge]

1-2 fast

but this patch

the important its

is

fix ping

why nobody

copy that shietttt

[elder swift]

how did they fix it

[pine iron]

yeah, I already quoted that

[rocky badge]

1. Endurance consumption adjustments: The max limit for Endurance consumption reduction effects is capped at 40%; the Endurance consumed after continuously Sprinting for over 1 second is increased; the reduction in Endurance recovery speed while players are in a Defense state is slightly decreased; drawing a bow (Charge) for over 1.2 seconds will start continuously consuming Endurance, and the charge stage will no longer increase once Endurance reaches 0.

runner hold block

delete the game please

you guys dead

to me right now

[pine iron]

3. Weapon Arena Attunement adjustment: The effect that restores 30 Vitality and HP equal to 20% of DMG dealt after using an "Execution Skill" is adjusted. After using an "Execution Skill", you now restore 20 Vitality, and for the next 8 seconds, any "Healing" you cause restores an extra 2 Vitality (triggers up to 5 times). Under the Gold Attunement effect, the Mystic Skill DMG you deal is additionally increased by 20% for the next 8 seconds.

is this nerf or just balancing?

[ornate echo]

So poet poet light attack still work?

[rocky badge]

high ping > their stun longer than low ping

[rocky badge]

Changes

[pine iron]

fury harvest back on the menu?

lmao

[elder swift]

like stagger / stun everything?

[rocky badge]

yes

2 poet white now

every ping

its fake

not true anymore

[rocky badge]

6. Added a level adjustment for escaping the Hit state: The timing for Wanderers with different network latencies to escape a hit via Dodge, Deflect, or movement will remain exactly the same. Wanderers with high latency will no longer escape hits later than those with low latency.

10. Optimized the hit detection logic of projectiles fired by high-latency opponents, making it easier to evade them via "Deflect", "Dodge", etc. Fixed an issue where players could still be hit by projectiles after successfully triggering a "Perfect Dodge".

PVP SURVIVE

[worldly portal]

So is 2 firepoets true for everyone still?

[pine iron]

3. Inner Way "Divine Roulette" Tier 6 effect adjustment: A successful "Deflect" now guarantees the "Immortal Guidance" effect, along with either "Immortal Heart" or "Immortal Spirit".

[rocky badge]

Yes

[worldly portal]

Is 1 white poet true for everyone?

[elder swift]

how exactly does 6 work though i wonder

[pine iron]

my favorite

[rocky badge]

wdym 1 white

2 white

fake

1 white into heng blade light attack

its true

[elder swift]

i think hes trying to find out if 1 white poet into knockup is still a thing

[rocky badge]

nah at least 2

[worldly portal]

Wonder if 1 white into knock up is tree

[rocky badge]

except heng blade

[ember locust]

but 2 is fake?

[worldly portal]

Ooo bet

[pine iron]

the divine roulette got buffed too?

[rocky badge]

yes

[pseudo finch]

strat nerfs making me emotional and sad

[pine iron]

adaptive steel too i think

[wild snow]

good

death to strat users

[dapper lance]

oh I might be cooked

gg

[ember locust]

strat was too op

[elder swift]

so ur saying then we cant do poet into knockup anymore

[rocky badge]

Strats and nameless spear

will gone

See ya

[worldly portal]

Strat was unpunishable that’s my only problem with it

[ornate echo]

Good

[pseudo finch]

huh

[pine iron]

they just nerfed the endurance cost usage of strat sword

[ornate echo]

Now hopefully the brainless spear attune goes next

[worldly portal]

Like tax collectors strat dash u couldn’t punish him lmao

[rocky badge]

1 Special skill

cost 60% endurance

HAHAHA

[pine iron]

so without nameless spear + evasive + ghost step, you are literally cooked

🤣

[elder swift]

Added a level adjustment for escaping the Hit state: The timing for Wanderers with different network latencies to escape a hit via Dodge, Deflect, or movement will remain exactly the same. Wanderers with high latency will no longer escape hits later than those with low latency.

^ how tf is this going to work? how are they gonna make someone with 100 ping escape the same as gfn

[pseudo finch]

not everyone on taxcollector ping lol

[rocky badge]

no

Single digits

still hit diffrent

above 10ms is equal

[elder swift]

so exactly the same is an exaggeration then

[worldly portal]

Everyone and their mom is with that gfn😂

[rocky badge]

like

[elder swift]

everyone above 10ms equal is still crazy tho, how does it work

[rocky badge]

if i hit you with 2ms > you got stun like 0.2 sec

[elder swift]

[pseudo finch]

in my region we dont have that

[rocky badge]

if you hit me with 100ms > i got stun like 1 sec

[dapper lance]

guys guys

[elder swift]

ohhhhhhhh

[dapper lance]

can I 1 2 poet or am I cooked

[worldly portal]

Rip

[elder swift]

thats rly fair

[dapper lance]

[pine iron]

**29. Fixed an issue with the Martial Art "Snowparting Blade" where releasing the Martial Art Skill "Fleeting Trace" while locked on had a chance to not cast toward the target direction.

30. Fixed an issue with the Martial Art "Snowparting Blade" where releasing the Light Attack Charged Skill "Grave Frost" and quickly chaining into the Heavy Attack Varied Combo "Snowbreak Spring" had a chance to cause "Grave Frost" to lose its final DMG hit.**

Yay, fixed

[worldly portal]

Good 😭😭

[elder swift]

so they actually did something to make it fair

why is below 10ms still different? @rocky badge

[rocky badge]

yea

[wild snow]

was already change in cn

[rocky badge]

but for only 60ms or lower

[wild snow]

but ye

[rocky badge]

not for 80ms or 100ms

[rocky badge]

Yes

2ms ping still strong

[ornate echo]

Can they do 29 for tb q also? Thing has a mind of its own sometimes I swear

[rocky badge]

that's why china buy more server

to calculate

[elder swift]

but how come i wonder

[ornate echo]

[rich raven]

Or 120-180

[rocky badge]

Delete

[pine iron]

well, They gonna release Middle east server so hopefully It'll be decent

[worldly portal]

Yeah it’s impossible to even have ping that high on any game unless it’s just not your server

[rocky badge]

but at least

[elder swift]

ahh ok so above 60 still cooked

[worldly portal]

Like max someone can have is 60 which makes sense

[rocky badge]

after 4 month not attention about pvp patch

they really do something

we have to congrats

stop bully dev

[worldly portal]

It’s gonna come with 60 bugs

Don’t speak too soon

[elder swift]

paul do you know the new brella combo

[rocky badge]

this is the completed patch in china

[rich raven]

Lol
I've played on worse

[dapper lance]

I was asking haha

[rocky badge]

every game have bug

[rocky badge]

so

at least

they do something

[elder swift]

they did quite a bit

tbh

[rich raven]

This is god-like ping

[rocky badge]

or @worldly portal wanna 2 white poet into combo

AHAa

at least no more ping bully

[worldly portal]

I forgot it exactly but it’s something like stun dragon breath stun poet poet stun poet poet

That’s 1 of em tho there’s other variations

[rich raven]

You mean stagger

[elder swift]

i wonder if it does considerably less dmg

if it doesnt then its just a buff w a different combo required

[pine iron]

**19. Martial Art "Nameless Sword": The "Stagger" intensity caused by the second stage of the Martial Art Skill "Relentless Chase" is increased to stably chain into the third stage.

20. Martial Art "Nameless Sword": The animation speed of the "Sword - Dash" triggered by the Special Skill "Shadow Step" is increased. Fixed an issue where it might occasionally fail to deal DMG.**

Nameless Sword Is back on the menu BOYS

[worldly portal]

Like ik some dude would just do stun yakusha rush stun umbrella special knock up frog execute

[rich raven]

It's actually better

[worldly portal]

I believe it’s less dmg but it’s still a lot of dmg. Can still take their first life

[ember locust]

wasnt it always op

[elder swift]

this would be a funny looking combo

[ember locust]

😭

[elder swift]

i guess thats all we can ask for

[next trellis]

8. Martial Art "Phalanxbane Blade": The Martial Art Skill "Soul Burning" now grants Tenacity throughout its duration, and the animation speed of its second stage "Total Annihilation" is increased.
   this is competely boken now no???

[pine iron]

the Q skill of nameless sword is not fake combo anymore

[elder swift]

how much faster is the fan dodge now, same as other weapons? @rocky badge

[worldly portal]

That’s exactly what some dude named AimA was doing that I seen on YouTube

[elder swift]

yeah it could be optimal for all i know

[next trellis]

with the bonus pendant/disc atuune, is that not just infinite chain tenacity???

[rich raven]

Fan has the best dodge animation

[rocky badge]

nah

its their weakness

for punish

[worldly portal]

As long as the drone is in air u can knock up frog. I feel like u can replace the yak part for anything frfr

[rocky badge]

fan strong asf

but we need to wait

96 gear

to have attune knock up tenacity

[rich raven]

It's possible?

[rocky badge]

yes

[pine iron]

@rocky badge did they made the Freemorph has a faster start up animation?

[worldly portal]

Are u guys sure it’s only on successful knock ups?

[rich raven]

Knock up becomes unblocked?

[rocky badge]

YES

That on attune

i read it on china before

Knockup gains 2 sec tenacity + 12% boost dmg

[worldly portal]

Yeah but I swear I see them knock up into poet/ hq and they can just tp out

[limber vessel]

doesnt that need to hit a non-defending player tho?

[rocky badge]

right now fanbrella really scare

when knockup someone

have serene

because you will get serene

can't dodge

[next trellis]

yes but if theyre spamming offence, u can just hyper armor through now with qq

[rocky badge]

that's fix their problems

[rich raven]

+12 😫🔥... along with the +15 from light attack and +30 from fan screen

[limber vessel]

true true

[rocky badge]

no

[next trellis]

when b4 youd get staggered if u tried to qq

[elder swift]

so better than the previous one but not as good as other weaps. okay

[rich raven]

Lol 😂

[elder swift]

yeah maybe fire poet is used for vit

[worldly portal]

Yeah if ppl serene late I dodge with knock up soaring spin, if they serene fast asf tho I eat it

[elder swift]

or just dmg

[pine iron]

Is the freemorph got adjusted too? does it have now faster start up?

[elder swift]

its only at 96?

[worldly portal]

Yeah I’m pretty sure u wouldn’t have to drone to even do a lot of dmg

[rocky badge]

above 96

because that on attune

ain't no way they will add on lvl 91

[pine iron]

what's the buff on twinblades pvp?

[worldly portal]

I swear I see them just stun db, poet poet repeat

[rocky badge]

2 serene will remove on 96 too

[pine iron]

is the tracking of Q got improved?

[rocky badge]

and 15 bonus dmg qi counter attack too

[rich raven]

Wth?

[pine iron]

21. Martial Art "Nameless Spear": In Arena modes, the un-interruptible post-cast animation time (via "Deflect") is increased when the Martial Art Skill "Qiankun's Lock" misses the target.

AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[ember locust]

so before we get 96 fanbrella is useless

[rocky badge]

yes

so you guys

dont celebrate soon

[dapper lance]

I both love and hate this patch lol

[worldly portal]

Wait @elder swift we can combo off of talon strike now

[elder swift]

so its a nerf for the time being

[rich raven]

Not useless, but becomes more Op

[rocky badge]

Their attune will add/remove when 96

• 2 serene remove
• Knockup tenactiy fan [add]
• 15 bonus dmg qi counter attack remove

[elder swift]

like first hit into knockup is true?

on normal hit or

on guardbreak

[pine iron]

what do you love and hate?

lmao

[worldly portal]

Before u could only do it if u didn’t guard breaks them, now if u guardbreak u can just knock up

[elder swift]

i think it wasnt guaranteed on guardbreak yeah

ohhhh

[ember locust]

cant someone, just bring 91 gear for the 2 serene

[elder swift]

ok thats kinda cool

[ember locust]

like its not that much worse in terms of stats

[pine iron]

did the 2nd serene attunement for N.spear gor removed?

Please let it be removed

[dapper lance]

They are just buffing things I do not think is healthy to be buffed, and nerfing things that should have been nerfed a while ago

[elder swift]

so does nameless sword true combo off q now and take u to 2nd life

[worldly portal]

Yeah it’s guaranteed on guardbreak now, when u don’t guard break when talon pushes them away is when u had to knock up

[dapper lance]

like the heng phalenx stuff is kinda cringe

[autumn palm]

Death to fanbrellas!!!111

[wild snow]

death to non-fanbrellas

[wild snow]

i agree lol

[rocky badge]

Yes

but less dmg

[pine iron]

Im quite blind, can you give an example of unhealthy buff?

[rocky badge]

if you want

[wild snow]

i already find heng hard to fight

[elder swift]

its pretty good tbf. this would happen a fair amount

[rocky badge]

just equip

[pine iron]

did the 2nd serene breeze attunement in the N.spear got removed?

[rocky badge]

lvl 96

not now

attune will remove

on next breakthrough gear

not current gear

[dry star]

Double rat 🐀 🤪

[alpine mica]

Did anyone read the patch notes?

Was nspear nerfed?

[pine iron]

that's good then

[rocky badge]

double enhanced to not get pressure

[rocky badge]

yes

[pine iron]

21. Martial Art "Nameless Spear": In Arena modes, the un-interruptible post-cast animation time (via "Deflect") is increased when the Martial Art Skill "Qiankun's Lock" misses the target.

[alpine mica]

Or rats?

[rocky badge]

Whiff > free combo

rats got buff

HAHA

[alpine mica]

Hahaha

Hell yeah

[rocky badge]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dance-funny-rat-dance-dancing-rat-gif-1874324974880693067

[pine iron]

you'll be seeing more rat users

🤣

[elder swift]

how punishable is the nspear stun whiff now

[alpine mica]

What about rats?

[elder swift]

compared to before

[pseudo finch]

rats buff gotta be the dumbest shi ive seen

[dry star]

Double dmg

[dapper lance]

did they buff poet or did they nerf it

[pine iron]

it locks you in animation like Def break, so yeah, more punishable

[dapper lance]

im confused

[elder swift]

ohhhh

wait thats great

[dry star]

P1p2.true for everyone now

[alpine mica]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-defeated-give-up-gif-5507795813322566763

[pine iron]

and considering the nameless mains, they'll probably only use n.spear if they have serene breeze perpared or confident to hit you with it

[alpine mica]

Like u tho

Y*

[elder swift]

but then nsword got a big buff right

[wild snow]

alot of nameless users about to ragequit

[elder swift]

i guess its only fair

[rocky badge]

Disc Bellstrike - Splendor Arena Attunement adjustment: The effect that activates "Perception Skill: Eclipse Shift" while in Hit Stagger state is replaced by: Hitting a target with "Qiankun's Lock" refunds 4 seconds of "Break Control Skill" cooldown. Among Attunement effects, multiple "Break Control Skill" cooldown reduction effects can only reduce the cooldown by a maximum of 4 seconds when active simultaneously. Under the Gold Attunement effect, the Qi recovery from a successful "Perception Skill: Eclipse Shift" is also adjusted to be triggered by "Qiankun's Lock".

Oh i means

[alpine mica]

What happened?

[rocky badge]

they changes 2 serene

into this

REMOVE 2 SErene on lvl 91

[lament relic]

i love playing group strat now with bamboocut dust

[pine iron]

yeah, Q is now true combo, the Special skill ( the second cast animation) is more faster and now viable for combo

[rocky badge]

now Q successfully cooldown -4s serene

we dont have 2 serene more

SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

https://tenor.com/view/siuuu-cr7-gif-24345362

[elder swift]

full combo off q

[dry star]

Twinblade rage lights is true now

[alpine mica]

Was fanbrella nerfed in terms of immobilisation cooldown?

[elder swift]

yeah

each consecutive stun is shorter

[alpine mica]

Damn gotta hold block at all times now

[alpine mica]

Shi

New combos to learn now

[dry star]

You can combo off talon now

[untold grotto]

where do u see this if u dont mind me asking

[alpine mica]

What about heng swap?

[median holly]

Umbrella stun finally gets nerfed? 😄

[elder swift]

yeah this is good

[clever burrow]

why unfetered got nerf/adjust tho

[dapper lance]

LETS GO BB NO MORE 0 PING NATIVE PLAYERS PARRYING OUT

RAHHH

[elder swift]

brella stun nerf i dont think means that much

[alpine mica]

Hmm nice

[dapper lance]

god Im unleashed this patch

[pine iron]

https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/news/official/Adjustment528 (.) html

[alpine mica]

Yeah instead of 1 to 12

[untold grotto]

thabks a lot

[dry star]

I'm more unleashed than u

[alpine mica]

1 to 120*

[elder swift]

you just do a different combo now

[dry star]

I'm coming for your rank now

[alpine mica]

It's now 1 to 100

[pine iron]

what is buffed on the rats again?

[elder swift]

and u have faster fan dodge and lvl 96 we get tenacity on successful knockup

[elder swift]

so its not that bad

[rocky badge]

Tenacity Fanbrella

[alpine mica]

Exactly cn guys do that

[median holly]

I heard nameless spear and umbrella stun combo is good in 1v1

[rocky badge]

in lvl 91 too

[dry star]

Double rats are back

[elder swift]

[rocky badge]

stop misunderstanding

[dry star]

Oh

[elder swift]

so we get knockup tenacity from 91

[rocky badge]

when spin, gains 2 enhance

[pine iron]

2nd charge?

[worldly portal]

Couldn’t even be 120 no more anyways when second life activates the combo just drops I believe

[rocky badge]

not 2 rats special skill

[dry star]

Oh.

I'm sad

[rocky badge]

they buff that

[elder swift]

the tenacity is 2 seconds?? thats big

[rocky badge]

to make sure rats not get pressure

can't spin anymore

[dry star]

I don't get pressured anyway

[elder swift]

that means knockup into umbrella q is not punishable by serene into combo

[alpine mica]

I really don't understand y they buffed rats up when they do more dmg than twinblades

[median holly]

I might try nameless spear and umbrella stun, they say it is easy for climbing to mythic rank ^^

[dapper lance]

RATS GOOD STRAT SWORD BAD

😄

[elder swift]

fanbrella got buffed idk why ppl celebrate the stun nerf

stun nerf js means new combo

[dapper lance]

cause thats the annoying part tbh

[dry star]

Fan buff means arima is gonna be a demon no?

[elder swift]

well if ppl r happy

[alpine mica]

Being immobilised is very cuuckish u know

[pseudo finch]

one needs to hit you to damage you and the other dont need to touch you at all to kill you

[alpine mica]

Like they r comboing u and u can't do anything but being stunned while u can spam buttons is a diff story

[rocky badge]

this is strongest patch

[elder swift]

well now they wont be able to press but we'll just do something else

[rocky badge]

for umbrella

after 28 may

all you guys saee

its umbrella

HEHE

[worldly portal]

Yeah I just went to a video and 1 combo u can do to take them second life is Knock up Stun 1 hit of DB 1 poet stun 2 poets stun 3 poets execute @elder swift

[elder swift]

now we dont risk anything when going for knockup umbrella q

[alpine mica]

What about heng?

[pine iron]

what the hell did they buff for umbrella

[alpine mica]

Did they improve weapon swap?

[rocky badge]

Heng not strongest patch

[pine iron]

got only fixed Q tracking and the Enhanced R got more stagger timing

[rocky badge]

this is patch buff before get nerf into tier trash

[pine iron]

Heng got only buffed PvE wise strongly

[rocky badge]

more True combo, less dmg

[rocky badge]

phanxblade playstyle

not heng playstyle

[white junco]

can't wait to see more weird bugs with these changes

[dry star]

Less dmg let's goooo

[rotund grotto]

Nerf anxi yeah?

[elder swift]

ahh i mean this seems like a nice n easy combo

[rocky badge]

pure heng still strong

not nerf anxi

[pine iron]

Huh? didn't they add the infinite varied combo when boss is staggered?

[rocky badge]

nerf only heng dao

[rotund grotto]

Oh

[elder swift]

it kinda is

[rocky badge]

phanxblade playstyle tier 0 on pve speedrun

[rotund grotto]

So pure heng okay?

[rocky badge]

yes pure heng ok

[dry star]

Heng dao nameless spear era is dead

[rocky badge]

heng dao /storm breaker

[worldly portal]

Yeah u can also poet them after the executor

[rocky badge]

tier A pvp

[rotund grotto]

Good

[rocky badge]

because tenacity

and more utility to stun

not because high dmg

R charge yellow attack have cooldown

too

cannot spamming anymore

[median holly]

I was about to start my nameless spear journey :/

[rocky badge]

4 second cooldown

[worldly portal]

Wait that’s a nerf they did?

[vast linden]

I need someone to explain to me why snowparting blade is given so much.

Anti-cc for days, you cannot deflect the soldiers, so much damage

[worldly portal]

That’s good honestly that was annoying

[rocky badge]

Yes this is nerf in late december

china

[dry star]

Rat journey instead

[worldly portal]

How u couldn’t serene them

[alpine mica]

Hmm time to shift back to fanbrella then I shifted from there to heng thinking it will be the new meta

[rocky badge]

they not write into it

[alpine mica]

But they made it trash

[rocky badge]

heng blade will become more friendly

for newbie and high ping player

but less dmg

that's it

[autumn palm]

Tank buff lets goooo

[pine iron]

unless you run phalanx?

[rotund grotto]

That's fine

[elder swift]

is poet after exec going to be best now?

[rocky badge]

yes

like rats

twinblade rope

high dmg

[limber vessel]

rip heng

[rocky badge]

but twinblade nameless

still high tier

same situation

[elder swift]

did they remove qi dmg after exec

[worldly portal]

Nah db will still be better

[rocky badge]

yes

read it

no more unlimited execution

and gains super armor while get execution

guardian palm abuser still not use

[autumn palm]

Thanks God...

[rocky badge]

because u guys need to upgrade into special tier

but the materials to upgrade

in gauntlet map

[worldly portal]

They nerf guardian palm tho huh?

[median holly]

What weapon combo will be meta after 28 May?

[rocky badge]

not emperor map

[worldly portal]

I wanted it for poet spammers

[rocky badge]

no buff

but not now

[elder swift]

im mainly wondering if DB is still gonna be used after exec

[rocky badge]

need to wait

gauntlets map

[worldly portal]

Oo bet

[true halo]

The stormbreaker special true is this patch?

[elder swift]

or we do sth else now like poet or soaring

[rocky badge]

yes

[alpine mica]

Did they fix tab swap?

[dapper lance]

probably because it applies fire, and fire poets are strong

[pine iron]

what did they buff in stormbreaker spear?

[elder swift]

yeah true

[pine iron]

did they alraedy bring the SB CN buff in global alraedy?

[dry star]

@dapper lance come back in east

[rocky badge]

yes

tab swap will be true

[dry star]

I need you to terrorize ppl

[elder swift]

@rocky badge so the ping system change is really a thing for ppl between 10-60ms right

[alpine mica]

The special kick into combo is true

[rocky badge]

yes

[hasty sundial]

Is there a Patch

[dry star]

https://www.wherewindsmeetgame.com/m/news/official/Adjustment528.html

[alpine mica]

Thank God

[elder swift]

why does 3-5ms still get an advantage

[rocky badge]

Yes

[elder swift]

[pine iron]

stormbreaker+heng is now Viable in global in may

[rocky badge]

Hit speed

i means the stun will make you have true combo

but not longer combo

than lower ping

[alpine mica]

Yes I m using that since yesterday the tenacity makes it so comfy, still learning tho.

[rocky badge]

you 100ms ping and can do 10 hit in 10 sec true combo

but me 2 ms

can do 100 hit with 10 sec true combo

that diffrent

True combo but less dmg

if you high ping

[elder swift]

right i see

[alpine mica]

Makes sense

[elder swift]

wait so people above 60 ping can still do true combos now?

[pine iron]

is the Q>dual wield to heng> is now a true combo from SB+heng?

[rocky badge]

yes

[elder swift]

ohhh

[rocky badge]

i can said 60 ms ping

[elder swift]

thats still good

[rocky badge]

can escape 2 white poet

2 ms ping

i testing it

me and huanan [top 1 rats china] are friend

so we testing a lot

https://tenor.com/view/moji-black-and-white-creepy-grin-bw-gif-11526896625507189208

[alpine mica]

Yea

[rocky badge]

right now 60 ms can playable

[alpine mica]

Post patch

[pine iron]

80 ms can be playable too no?
XD

[rocky badge]

no

that's why

in chian

china

they have 3 4 server

[alpine mica]

Where r u from?

They r adding middle East servers

So maybe ur ping will get better

[pine iron]

Im currently in middle east

so yeah, im waiting for middle east

[alpine mica]

Holy 3ms

[pine iron]

hopefully someone will play at middle east

lmao

[pine iron]

i dunno man, Where would they plant that server tho? Dubai? abu dhabi? XD

[alpine mica]

Anywhere far from israel...u never know when they shake things up...💀💀

[pine iron]

Praying it'll be atleast from dubai or Abudhabi

[wild snow]

dubai most likely

[elder swift]

i hope the cross server toggle thing actually works

idc if i have to wait long queue times

i just want fair ping

[alpine mica]

If they do that then even I will be 35-50

[rotund grotto]

Do we swap to cleft peak

For Heng now?

Or nah

[pine iron]

Hell yeah

no

It's still a pve gear set

rainwhisper + Calm waters still for pvp

[grand imp]

Yes i'am crying from happiness

[elder swift]

@rocky badge do you know which slot the knockup tenacity attunement is on

[rocky badge]

i dont play umbrella

just wait update

and you guys will find out

[wild snow]

wont do much

[elder swift]

yeah true but curious

[pine iron]

Disc prboably

[wild snow]

you still gonna get rekt if they knockup you

[elder swift]

could be disc or charm

[rotund grotto]

Wait.

We have tenacity breaking palm now?

[white junco]

Mystic Skill "Guardian Palm - Breach" adjustment: Successfully hitting a Wanderer in the Tenacity state will deal an additional 40 points of Qi Damage.

[rotund grotto]

Did I miss something or?

[white junco]

yeah

[rotund grotto]

I have to PvE???

[molten citrus]

[rocky badge]

new map

not emperor map

Gauntlet map

emperor map dont have materials to upgrade that mystic

Ghost step explode too

or maybe they will changes

to have that material in emperor map

[white junco]

Arena Attunement: The trigger condition for the "Martial Art Skill: Total Annihilation" Attunement effect is changed from "Hitting a target not in a Defense state" to "Successfully putting the target into Hit Stagger or Controlled state".

so even if u block phalnx Q, they can still get tenacity?

if they have anxi soldier already

[rocky badge]

yes

tenacity will have sooner

to make sure you cannot get interrupt while Q

phanxblade and pure heng

buff alo

mix Heng less dmg

[lapis plaza]

are the new attunes good? are there changes to jade build?

[elder swift]

stuns shorter but fan buffed

basically

fan getting tenacity on successful knockup attunement

[rocky badge]

Stuns will shorter

time by time

2 sec/1.75/1.25/0.75

when you comb

combo

but nothing much

still tier S in pvp

Watch top 1 china fanbrella play

[elder swift]

not having to risk dying when i want to stun after a knockup is great

[ornate echo]

That won’t stop them from full auto stunning you into an execute I’d imagine

[elder swift]

komitski right

[rocky badge]

komitsuki 古弥月

yes

60 win rate

[elder swift]

yeah

[rocky badge]

0 > 1k3 mythic

[elder swift]

crazy

[rocky badge]

until meet gauntlets

JAJA

[elder swift]

😭

gauntlets just too op or

[subtle sparrow]

Are gauntlets gonna be on the new update?

[rocky badge]

no

2 month

they said on summer

maybe middle

maybe late

[rocky badge]

Black Market?

White lingering

if black market come

they will give us locked harminic core

if top 1 pvp or pve speedrun

or top 1 gvg

like china

[devout flax]

I saw nameless spear 2nd serene is gone this patch is this true?

[rocky badge]

yes

i means

[devout flax]

hell yeah!!

[rocky badge]

its in note patch

[devout flax]

[proud nimbus]

honk honk!

[rocky badge]

not rumors

[ornate echo]

https://tenor.com/view/thurston-waffles-meow-scream-glowing-eyes-cat-gif-15740056

[rocky badge]

anymore

[devout flax]

finally!!!

[ornate echo]

That’s awesome

[devout flax]

omg this is amazing!

[dusk wagon]

Hey i just started my pvp journey.. is strat and hp good? ;;

[devout flax]

yes very

but you need good ping

[rocky badge]

strats got nerf

switch to heng

[devout flax]

most will switch to heng yeah xD

[grand imp]

49. Fixed an issue with the Mystic Skill "Talon Strike" where it was impossible to chain subsequent combos against a "Stagger" enemy after a successful Break Defense.

Everyone told me it was impossible 🥲

[rocky badge]

that bug

[dusk wagon]

My ping went up these days 😭👏🏻 i can't even parry huhu

[rocky badge]

sometime you hit them

but the stagger

not coming

when 2 3 4 hit come

and we will got stagger back

[devout flax]

oh no

[rocky badge]

the fack

[devout flax]

yeah just go hengblade

[rocky badge]

if you have 55ms ping

you can play strats

after update

after update fix ping too

lower than 60ms playable on pvp

[dusk wagon]

Should i change to stoneplit path? Or i can mix with other build?

[devout flax]

even 55 is bad with strat xD

[rocky badge]

55 ms true combo

in new patch

so dont worry

[devout flax]

ohhhh

[rocky badge]

they have fix ping

on this patch too

[devout flax]

yeah true

[dusk wagon]

Yoo i got 500 on pvp tday and i just surrender 😭👏🏻

[rocky badge]

mix heng strombreaker

or pure heng

[ornate echo]

So talon can start combos if it defense breaks?

[rocky badge]

just play chill

[rocky badge]

no

its means

sometime

talon only hit the first hit

[ornate echo]

Oh

[rocky badge]

but not be able to hit the rest

[dusk wagon]

I see, ty!! Which path should i choose if I use this build?

[rocky badge]

they just fix that to make sure

you dont get punish

while break defense

[rocky badge]

arsenal?

stoneplit

[grand imp]

No, the change is that if u guard break, u hit all hit of talon

[lapis plaza]

where do i watch?

[grand imp]

Rn even if you were guard breaking, sometime the ppl could escape

[dapper lance]

W change I always thought that was silly

[dawn sonnet]

Is that an irl chuunibyou?

[rocky badge]

douyin

[grand imp]

People here told me it wasnt possible and i was lying lul

[dusk wagon]

Alright ty!! Anyways.. aside from morale, and these 2 martial skill innerways.. what innerway should i use?

[lapis plaza]

"In Arena modes, adjusted the timing windows during which the post-cast animations of most Martial Art Skills can be interrupted by enemy player Light or Heavy Attacks, leveling the differences among various Martial Arts."

I am hoping this one is meant to put a stop to that situation. They didn't describe enough tho

[devout flax]

oh another thing did they fix the inner way bug for heart of fire & light and shadow not working in Arena pvp?

[dapper lance]

light and shadow does work

[ornate echo]

The wording is always too much for my smooth brain to process

[devout flax]

oh what about heart of fire?

[dapper lance]

idk about heart of fire

Id assume so

[devout flax]

hmmmm

[rocky badge]

heart of fire fix

[devout flax]

nice!

[rocky badge]

bug

[grand imp]

5. Disc Bellstrike - Splendor Arena Attunement adjustment: The effect that activates "Perception Skill: Eclipse Shift" while in Hit Stagger state is replaced by: Hitting a target with "Qiankun's Lock" refunds 4 seconds of "Break Control Skill" cooldown. Among Attunement effects, multiple "Break Control Skill" cooldown reduction effects can only reduce the cooldown by a maximum of 4 seconds when active simultaneously. Under the Gold Attunement effect, the Qi recovery from a successful "Perception Skill: Eclipse Shift" is also adjusted to be triggered by "Qiankun's Lock".

The end of the second serene ? 😄

[lapis plaza]

douyin is a bit hard to watch from abroad. i found their barely updated xhs instead, so that will do for now.

[devout flax]

yeah finally

big W

[vast linden]

Is the China server's balance better or does everyone just play snowparting blade?

[worldly portal]

Did they change being able to be hit in meridian touch animation?

[grand imp]

on CN fist is the op one

[humble pine]

wait so nothing changed for fanbrella pvp?

[worldly portal]

A lot changed talaz

[alpine mica]

Where is nspear nerf mentioned in the patch, can't find it

[alpine mica]

Consecutive Stuns shorter

But when u do a knockup and cast umbrella q

Then u get tenacity

[worldly portal]

We can combo off of guardbreak talon strike, they fixed our dodge animation recovery, when lvl 96 comes we have tenacity on knock up but they nerfed our stun durations

[alpine mica]

Do they can't serene into stagger u now

[devout flax]

wait is this true?

[humble pine]

wait

[devout flax]

serene into umbrella stun dont work?

[humble pine]

we can combo off guardbreak talon

thats massive

[grand imp]

tenacity attunement on uppercut

+12% damage for 5sec

[harsh wren]

Wow this is the biggest balance patch ever

[alpine mica]

U have tenacity do yeah

[humble pine]

how much faster is it? can i dodge heng gold attack without getting hit by charge

[tawny garden]

Anyone know if we can control windwall direction for fan yet?

[worldly portal]

Yes we can

Where does it say that at? I see the cn players still doing it

[devout flax]

thats what i was thinking

[worldly portal]

Or do u mean u cant serene into knock up?

Cause serene into stun is still a thing

[devout flax]

yeah

people do it all the time in CN

[worldly portal]

I think he means u cant 3 stun after serene like we were doing

[devout flax]

[grand imp]

DB and DP not doing enough damage apparently cuz a bug

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-nervios-gif-8896313124420390361

[sage radish]

at least we got the latest CN patch

that's insanely good news

[sturdy valley]

Mark my words umbrellas will be only played in pve. Swords will be forgoten and only Mo blades will be seen in PvP

[sage radish]

you for sure know a lot about the CN meta

[sturdy valley]

Nah onnly 2 days away beo

Bro

[rich raven]

You can if you don't camera lock on target

[ornate echo]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-bruh-smiling-drive-gif-15005835

[rich raven]

Moblades?😂

[sturdy valley]

69 once said,
Are you dumb stupid or dumb huh.

[tawny garden]

I remember that cn can cotrol skill direction even when lock target

[rich raven]

Dunno wah this means buh no

[sturdy valley]

You answered the answer perfectly

[devout flax]

imagine hahaha

[rich raven]

Let bro enjoy his illusion 🤧😂

[hasty sundial]

No more Double excute for nameless

[devout flax]

🤣

[floral tree]

pretty sure fanbrella still got 100-0 combo even with reduced stun duration change

[devout flax]

to be fair though we will see more Mo Blades in this patch

[hasty sundial]

The devs love heng

[devout flax]

that double counter and weapon swap buff is crazy

[fair elk]

whats the least played hours to avoid trash server ping jumps

[dapper lance]

night ques honestly

like passed 1 am lmao

[fair elk]

this game so bad

[quasi fossil]

There any info on current CN pvp tier lists?

[fair elk]

its only in arena lag, anywhere else online no lag

such a trash clown fiesta game

[alpine mica]

Guys where in the patch notes does it say the shameless spear nerf?

I can't find it

[dapper lance]

SHAMELESS SPEAR BUFF

Its now stronger, better, and more speed.

[alpine mica]

Someone said that if they miss it now they will get a penalty

[dapper lance]

It was weak before but now its strong. The devs def know what they are doing with that one yesiir

Im glad they buffed it it was struggling

[alpine mica]

@dapper lance

[crystal folio]

This is true

[dapper lance]

This isnt true, my wwm devs would never nerf shameless spear!

Different reality

[alpine mica]

So we will see less bs immobilisation right?

[crystal folio]

No

[normal carbon]

no more jade, no more hybrids

[alpine mica]

Y?

[crystal folio]

If they miss you can punish

[dapper lance]

Its just more punishable when they miss

[crystal folio]

The amount of stuns will be the same if they hit

And time of stun etc

[dapper lance]

they get some affinity damage boost or something now too

idk

something like that

[spiral breach]

Brother can we read?

[alpine mica]

Yea but they will be animation locked and we can combo yea?

[crystal folio]

Yes supposedly

[alpine mica]

We r jjk fans

[dapper lance]

woosh

[alpine mica]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-memes-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jujutsu-kaisen-season-3-yuta-jjk-gif-7576830720291615984

[spiral breach]

Truly jjk level reading

[pseudo finch]

complaining about nspear stun when u have 4 umbrella stuns

[crystal folio]

idk about getting hit by an umbrella stun

[spiral breach]

Yo what is this strat sword pkayer doin here

No C tier builds here @pseudo finch

[pseudo finch]

getting hit by both stuns are indeed skill issue but the other one allows you to 100-0 while the other doesnt

[crystal folio]

Nah

nameless spear stun is old person issue for me

[devout flax]

only the hitbox is messed up in my opinion

[crystal folio]

Can be pretty bad sometimes yeah

[dapper lance]

tbh how does strat sword do anything with special like killing charged R

60% endurance is crazy no

[alpine mica]

No nerf em harder

[pseudo finch]

finally an intellectual

[elder swift]

getting hit by brella stun is magnitudes higher of a skill issue than getting hit by nspear stun

[devout flax]

true

[pseudo finch]

nope its the same

[elder swift]

[pseudo finch]

the other is way more punishing

[dapper lance]

I mean getting hit by an umbrella stun just means you got hit by a knockup

[devout flax]

I'll say its only a problem if the umbrella user has over 200ms then "yes" I agree

[elder swift]

i used to assume this when ppl said similar things

but most of the time theyre actually talking about raw stuns

so im like... dodge them

[devout flax]

if the umbrella user has high latency then its really hard to dodge

but if not then its a skill issue

[elder swift]

thats true, theyre apparently fixing that

so it will just be skill issue from 28th

[pseudo finch]

its the same with nspear just dodge them, but nspear doesnt put u in 2nd life if u get hit by it once

[devout flax]

true though

[spiral breach]

Guys

A minute of silence pls

For strat sword

[elder swift]

nspear stun is not nearly as reactable

[devout flax]

also true

[solid comet]

let it die

[elder swift]

a raw brella stun is literally like.. okay im gonna shoot.. wait... dodge now!

[devout flax]

with nameless spear you just kinda have to predict they will use it within close proximity

and read them

[elder swift]

not to mention from 28th nsword q full combos 100-0 combined w nspear stun used in the combo

[dapper lance]

I only really get hit by raw umbrellas when Im locked into some tenacity animation trying to avoid the stupid knockup

[elder swift]

and you tell me whats easier to dodge, raw stun or nsword q

[devout flax]

oh is this true?!

damn

[crystal folio]

Well

[elder swift]

yeah

[devout flax]

[crystal folio]

You already use nspear q in combo

[elder swift]

yeah but nsword part of the combo is true now

making the combo a 100-0

[crystal folio]

They're just buffing nsword

[devout flax]

ah yeah i remember people wanted this

[quasi fossil]

It got reduced with new upcoming patch

[devout flax]

it wasnt true before

[dapper lance]

ye thats what I was saying

I dont think it can do anything now

[devout flax]

i do love how they are making everything true combos now even for Tank mains

its a nice patch

[elder swift]

it's a bit more fair

[dapper lance]

tbh overdue but

[elder swift]

ping wise and what not

[devout flax]

yeah

[devout flax]

also true haha

[alpine mica]

Especially if u r using like a spear/sword I can see 1 of every 50 stuns hitting u coz of the terrible fan dodge but if raws r hitting u while u run evasive charge and have weapons with good doges then just go back to veteren bro

[high terrace]

Those patch notes...idk man

[elder swift]

well said honestly

[solid comet]

LOL yeah i just throw out stuns randomly sometimes and they hit, but if ur not dodging its on u

[devout flax]

i do think this patch compensates for it though because its pretty much like 2 balance CN patches in 1

[high terrace]

6. Blazing Bow: The explosive arrows fired now have a 3-second cooldown. Regular arrows will be fired during this cooldown period.

I'll take this tho I do want the sin leaf points🤷‍♂️

[elder swift]

dodging a raw umbrella stun has to be the lowest bar vsing the weapon class

[pseudo finch]

u saying as if no top 5 players in all region doesnt get hit by it ever lol

[devout flax]

oh this is good!

[alpine mica]

By raws?

[solid comet]

wtf stealth nerf im going back to the good bow where i take all ur qi in one hit

[alpine mica]

Nah they really don't unless it's a ping issue

[pseudo finch]

did i stutter

[elder swift]

what region top 5 getting hit by raw stuns

[alpine mica]

U physically can't so u tell me...

[elder swift]

we should check their folders

complaining about raw stuns is like.. a pre mythic or negative winrate mythic player thing

[pseudo finch]

read what i said again

[solid comet]

tbh umbrella stuns are some of the easiest things to avoid

[alpine mica]

The only reason I beat guys like jesc or got repulse/kirin/lscin to 2nd life was coz of my terrible ping

[elder swift]

they really dont get hit

[high terrace]

This whole game is a ping issue that's why nobody should feel any pride in their rank until it isnt

[alpine mica]

Like if u watch their streams they perfect dodge it

[grand forge]

lmao

[alpine mica]

But they get stunned 2 sec later

[solid comet]

tbh though i be mixing stuns in some weird combos, ill even do it face to face LMAO

[alpine mica]

Mf was waiting

[elder swift]

if you're past a certain level you just perfect dodge forward to dodge it and gap close

[alpine mica]

For me

[elder swift]

and they never fail

tbh

[solid comet]

why cant i parry umbrella stuns

[humble pine]

so does the umbrella nerf only apply to consecutive stuns?

[solid comet]

i can parry fire??

[pseudo finch]

never is a reach, my point was one stun doesnt put you on 2nd life and the other doesnt

[humble pine]

cant parry nameless stun

[solid comet]

should be able to

i wanna just stand still and spam parry and dodge

[elder swift]

well yeah they can make a similar mistake against any other weapon class, get hit by something that they dodge 99.9% of the time

[timid saddle]

you can parry everything if you just believe in yourself

[mental spoke]

i dont see fan dash atk stagger increase in the patch notes did i miss it or is it not there

[solid comet]

u can parry rage tb rage mode i found out

[devout flax]

so true! xDD

[alpine mica]

They should add a system like sekiro, like yeah u r not supposed to parry thrusts u r supposed to mikiri but if u r good enough u can parry em too.

[elder swift]

but if it's a regular occurrence for you to be like "raw stuns are bs!" instead of "oh i messed up" then it's the player's fault

[alpine mica]

[solid comet]

what if theyre in mongolia and on bluetooth

[timid saddle]

i need special parry for nspear stun where i just run on the spear and slap them in the face

[elder swift]

either not reached mythic, or negative winrate in mythic type complaint

[humble pine]

not there i dont think

[mental spoke]

[elder swift]

was this supposed to be part of this patch

[humble pine]

fan tenacity + dodge speed + talon combo pretty nice tho

[solid comet]

back in my day we used to use umbrellas to parry rain

[mental spoke]

along with fan tenacity tune came dash atk stagger + comboing off of talon

but the last 2 arent in the notes

[grand forge]

did we get fan special tenacity thing ?

[elder swift]

i think i saw the talon one somewhere

[humble pine]

the talon combo is in there

[mental spoke]

oh is it

[elder swift]

yes

[grand forge]

nice

was waiting for that

[elder swift]

no more fearing for ur life when u wanna do more than pursuit

[solid comet]

so as a fan player i should be celebrating today right

[mental spoke]

i guess the dash atk is just forgotten but still added?

[mental spoke]

yeah massive buff

[humble pine]

ya

[grand forge]

fr

[elder swift]

i assume yeah

[humble pine]

Awawa do you know if brella stun nerf applies only if its consecutive

[solid comet]

i already felt like a bully now i can be a bully with a buff

[grand forge]

btw what is new fanbrella combo

[mental spoke]

yes as long as the stun duration ends it resets
if u knock up and restun it will have full duration 3rd stun

[wild snow]

oh…

[humble pine]

gotcha but even if u weave mystics in between it still has the diminishing stun duration

[grand forge]

ooh

[wild snow]

yea but you knockup after 2nd stun and then stun again to reset it i guess

[humble pine]

thast a waste of 10 sec timer

i feel

[wild snow]

could be yea

[devout flax]

yeah the fanbrella combo is still 100-0 regardless of the stun duration nerf. so overall fanbrella got buffed hard

[solid comet]

good

ive been resident fanbrella for a week ill stick to it ig

[humble pine]

stun > breath > stun > 2x poet > stun > turret knockup?

can u fit a poet at the end

[mental spoke]

its for careful hp management

since if u umbrella execute on their 1 hp they will get hit past 2nd life and die

[devout flax]

im sure content creators will go crazy with the guides after this patch

[solid comet]

im not gonna watch any of them either

😌

[mental spoke]

im a gvg player i need gvg guides

[wild snow]

the guide is play nameless

[rare iron]

finally got challenge in 1vs1 climb

but still 100% win rate so far :D

[devout flax]

hahaha

[rare iron]

i would like to play some gvg... cant seem to have time when guild does it (assuming i would even be allowed)

[timid saddle]

if you want challenge in 1v1 do what i do, 0 arena talents, lvl1 weapons and lvl 81 gear. I promise you will find a lot of matches challenging

[rare iron]

nah, i got my beating already

[humble pine]

thats how i dropped 400 pts in 1 day

[rare iron]

one time per day feels like limit

[mental spoke]

did guardians palm get the tenacity break buff or no

[solid comet]

i can finally replace cloud step

[humble pine]

"45. Mystic Skill "Guardian Palm - Breach" adjustment: Successfully hitting a Wanderer in the Tenacity state will deal an additional 40 points of Qi Damage."

[wild snow]

yes but its the new mystic system we dont have unlocked yet

apparantly

[timid saddle]

i am somehow having more fun losing while being a gearlet than winning with gear

[mental spoke]

damn

[elder swift]

You gotta upgrade it like toad

[timid saddle]

matches actually difficult when you die in half a combo

[mental spoke]

guess ill have to wait a while

[rare iron]

no

why

no

wait its just qi damage?

[elder swift]

We'll see if they make the materials available in our current regions or keep it to another region we dont have

[mental spoke]

no

[rare iron]

hmmm... maybe its no joever

[mental spoke]

thats not the whole effect

[rare iron]

i mean change

is that only change?

[mental spoke]

it breaks tenacity and can be recasted
but it might not be in the game

[humble pine]

how fast is fan dodge now 5. Increased the Dodge animation speed when using Fan weapons.

[rare iron]

it breaks tenacity?

[mental spoke]

normal speed

[clever brook]

do they plan to fix the stone palm teleport bug? i see it in almost every single game, insanely stupid

[humble pine]

thats sick

[rare iron]

then how the heck you even supoused to counter that

[mental spoke]

parry it

[humble pine]

hit em

[mental spoke]

it has a start up animation