⚔️pvp-build-discussion

[rotund grotto]

Mo q is most consistent

Cus no one expects me to just swing lmao

[ember locust]

but some people have super armor on mo q

[urban ridge]

pxul ur defending fanbrella with ur life because you're a fellow stunner

[rotund grotto]

Heng q is 80 20

[urban ridge]

i get it

[rotund grotto]

I lose

Pxul there is delay on knock up rightM

[worldly portal]

No lowkey it’s cause u shouldn’t be getting hit by raw stuns lmao

[west oak]

Oh, thats a hell of a complement

[rotund grotto]

It's a little slower than meridian? Or is it the same?

[west oak]

Stunning

[worldly portal]

But u do play pure heng so you’re probably getting caught trying to guards

[ember locust]

umbrella so weak im probably switching to double fan, move set looks very cool

[rotund grotto]

Shield?

[worldly portal]

Yeah it’s slow

[worldly portal]

Changed it to guards lmao

[rotund grotto]

I get caught cus I dodge too fast

[worldly portal]

Like at the start of the season when I ran into bells

[urban ridge]

heng is nortorius for having slow animations

[rotund grotto]

Wat

[worldly portal]

I told the mf I was screen sharing that watch this she gonna hit by stun at the start of game

Since she is gonna use her guards

[ember locust]

heng can tp to people trying to dodge and combo them

[worldly portal]

And that exact thing happened😭😭😭

[ember locust]

you dont need animation speed coz there is no animation

[rotund grotto]

Ohhh

The special

Thingu

On mo

[worldly portal]

Stop putting on the guards at the start of game lmao

[rotund grotto]

But you have enough time to dodge?

[worldly portal]

Yea

[rotund grotto]

Unless it's a gfn exclusive thing

[ember locust]

so many free starter stuns

[rotund grotto]

Where I can ping diff people

[ember locust]

[urban ridge]

well i dont do that anymore

[worldly portal]

They do it’s 50/50. Works on some, some can react

[urban ridge]

but when i cant see where they teleport back to is when i mess up

[rotund grotto]

I drink and guards

[ember locust]

you can enable lock

[worldly portal]

Frfr

[rotund grotto]

Always

To eat their stuns

[worldly portal]

😭😭😭

[urban ridge]

just dont like stuns period

remove them from the game and replace them with other skills

[ember locust]

i agree, umbrella should have normal catch high dmg abilities that dont rely on CDs

[solid comet]

i been trying to make it work but yeah u kinda have to be on top of your game to fish out 2 mistakes before the serene timer resets lol

[worldly portal]

It’s no different from 10second combo. Whether I combo u with umbrella or twinblades you’re eating that combo

[ember locust]

it should be able to catch people too like other competent weapons

and it shouldnt need to wait for 30s for charges to be enough for a combo

[worldly portal]

The fact it’s not a sword it could never be that tho 😔

[ember locust]

it should be able to combo 10s with just normals and heavies

[rotund grotto]

No no

[urban ridge]

a damn lie

[rotund grotto]

You don't understand

Pxul

They throw stubs

Stuns

I dodge

[urban ridge]

a single umbrella combo can wipe a full health bar and second life

[rotund grotto]

Free cd adv

[urban ridge]

with execution

that is bs

[rotund grotto]

[rotund grotto]

This bs

[worldly portal]

Unless you ping out u are eating my twinblade combo lmao

[rotund grotto]

I hate twin blafes

[urban ridge]

i dont mind twin blade because you know they have actual martial arts skills

[ember locust]

and i mean umbrella is such a large weapon it should be able to block stuff, i think its fair that umbrella gets tenacity and also dmg reduction and also give shields

[urban ridge]

and not dumb stuns

yeah

[solid comet]

i cant do that but maybe my stats arent that great

[ember locust]

im totally fine with removing the stuns

they are useless anyways

[wanton sable]

Wtf

[solid comet]

can replace them with 'stagger'

[ember locust]

yes yes

[urban ridge]

LOL

[worldly portal]

10 second combo either way 🤷🏾‍♂️

[topaz steeple]

Best build for PVP healer but more damage? I'm running Ivorybloom set with Whirlsnow, trying to get eagle rise. Innerways are Morale chant, Royal remedy, Restoring blossom and Light and shadow alike. (pancea fan and soulshade umbrella) Please help

[worldly portal]

Idc which way it goes combos in this game are easy

[urban ridge]

if you stun someone you can last hit them

stuns are very useful

which i believe every class should have them

[solid comet]

oh im not against fanbrella, i find them kinda easy, even as a fanbrella lmao

[worldly portal]

How

[worldly portal]

If u stagger someone u can last hit them too

Promise you’re getting hit by n sword Qs more than umbrella stuns lmao

[worldly portal]

Yeah fanbrella is ahs compared to all the meta builds

[urban ridge]

and how is that possible when im stunned

stun cd is like .5 seconds

[worldly portal]

U should’ve dodged it

[solid comet]

tbh though i feel like im learning a lot playing it tho

[urban ridge]

kind of funny because you can serene breeze and stun right after when someones in a hit animation

real fair

[ember locust]

other weapons can do it too

serene catch is a combo starter

usually its tab i think

[worldly portal]

I can serene breeze and twinblade Q u

I can serene breeze and strat sword q u

What are u on about😭 everyone combos off serene

[rotund grotto]

Yah

[worldly portal]

Yeah its fun too

[wanton sable]

Nah I hope everyone serene breeze and alt f4 the game for me rq

[solid comet]

forget it, just buff nspear it should be slaying us faster

[rotund grotto]

Serene is reachable?

Right?

I mean reaftable

As ekxkdisod

Can't spell

[worldly portal]

Tianz what’s up mr farmed me wiith 2 accs 😡

[wanton sable]

Nah I got 15

The queue time is 50min a game on my main its over

[worldly portal]

Lmao

I’ll be seeing u on the 28th

[wanton sable]

Bet

[solid comet]

dead game

[wanton sable]

Nah I just can’t queue into anyone

My other accounts are instant

[solid comet]

dying game 😭

[worldly portal]

I’ll have to climb a lot tho. Only like 130 matches played so stopped at 1300 idk how mfs be grinding

[west oak]

@scenic citrus do you still stream?

[urban ridge]

and because the combat system is unbalanced

[ember locust]

if they fix the servers we will start complaining abt the balance like cn

apparently the balancing is even worse there

[harsh hollow]

if they fix the servers atleast we'd be able to parry

[harsh hollow]

every patch reduces the ability to play on console, its crazy

[rotund grotto]

pxul

i am degen

perma bronze

[worldly portal]

Lock in fables😭

[rotund grotto]

bruh

200 ms reaction time

slow af

ggs

[worldly portal]

Mines lowkey same I think

[rotund grotto]

i am getting knowledge diffed imo

i just don't know shi

172 ms

ah type

i amwashed

[timid saddle]

anything above 150ms is too slow ggs

[urban ridge]

strat trash back to back

jesus christ

[timid saddle]

oh damn i have 160ms, i think it's over for me too

[solid comet]

ur all speed hackers

[fair elk]

another reason for netease to give everyone GFN

[dawn dagger]

still based on region ping

[fair elk]

better than no GFN

[spiral breach]

nah fk GFN

[harsh hollow]

gfn only works on pc, how about they just fix their game

[spiral breach]

give everyone a legal version of open speedy that caps at 103

put the thing in the settings that u can chanhge to toogle your game to 103 tb hits

just a yes or no button

yes = 103 hits
no = native ping

[bold stag]

i play heng + mo, what main stats am i looking for besides agility, crit rate, and precision rate?

[urban ridge]

max phys

[spiral breach]

max phys, max stonesplit

[harsh hollow]

Crit >max phys > power > min phys

[craggy tree]

Guddle is a cheater

[spiral breach]

just saw this too

he got flagged 3 times

[craggy tree]

[bold stag]

thanks for the replies. but also, how do i know if i have too much of something? say i have too much agility, but still lack crit rate. where do i check if my agility is higher than cap?

[bleak socket]

I can only get to 102 even with gfn

[harsh hollow]

225 agi, 100 prec on the right, pump power/max phys and crit

[spare drift]

Developp, Details

[bold stag]

so this, for exemple, i dont need max stonesplit? whatever max i have rolled can be reroled to something i still lack?

[open mirage]

Oh wow where you see the other players who got flagged?

[bold stag]

and im 10 points above required for cap?

[open mirage]

Holy moly that is a lot of games played

[bleak socket]

Im at 1100 for like 800 games xD

[harsh hollow]

THis is why I dont care about anyones rankings

[bleak socket]

Soooooooooo many cheaters online

[urban ridge]

so then macro hacks are allowed

[fair elk]

even exploits are

[bold stag]

i ask cos power and max phys are the ones i can reroll on my gear currently

[open mirage]

Is macro not allowed? I use it to poison farm

[harsh hollow]

Crit >max phys > power > min phys

[west oak]

Wait what is this cheat detection thing?

[west oak]

No its bannable

[bold stag]

what about agility? where is that in the order of importance?

[urban ridge]

if guddle the top player can use a speed hack why cant we

[craggy tree]

3rd party cheat detector, can't do anything except detect cheats

[vast radish]

how does this anticheat work? the devs are tracking it and publishing it to public?

[mental spoke]

is this real

[west oak]

I mean feel free if you dont value your acc

[west oak]

Actually fire

[craggy tree]

Guddle got flagged 3 times by the anti cheat

Must be real

[mental spoke]

💀

[west oak]

Where does it run?

[mental spoke]

they are so good why do they need to cheat

[craggy tree]

On your computer

[fair elk]

u wont get banned

[west oak]

You will

[bleak socket]

You need to install the anticheat to enter pretty much any tournament thats through ratz

[open mirage]

Money and views on twitch?

[fair elk]

nah

[west oak]

People always act like they cant get banned

[mental spoke]

if they wanted money they would stream more

they dont stream often

[west oak]

But its normal for the devs to bide their time before they ban

And gather proof

And then nuke everyone at once

[fair elk]

no one will get banned

[west oak]

Its what PA used to do back in the early bdo days

[urban ridge]

Alice have you even been playing? lol

[west oak]

Ppl said that same stuff about the shovel exploit until their inventories got locked

[west oak]

Since last week

I even crashed out here about the amount of cheaters

Like uhh

Yesterday?

[harsh hollow]

atp they just need to ban pc players

[west oak]

But even so Im having fun yk

[west oak]

I mean if we can detect the cheats you can bet the Devs can too

And are logging it

[fair elk]

they dont give a single fk lol

[west oak]

Youll see dw

In the meantime pls dont encourage people to use them though

[fair elk]

dont need to, everyone already uses it

[west oak]

Atp Im old enough to have seen this play out over a bunch of mmos before

And it always goes the same way

[urban ridge]

just asked guddle why it showed he got caught by cheat detection and he started stuttering

hmmmmm

[west oak]

And people always think that it wont this time

[urban ridge]

lol

[west oak]

Thats hilarious

[fair elk]

ofc cause everyone and their mom is using speedhacks

[harsh hollow]

somehow, someway... ||I blame Averse||

[west oak]

Fair shout

Making the vid the way he did was irresponsible af

[harsh hollow]

yes it was... Ive even seen people trying to do the bhudda palm thing since that vid came out

[west oak]

Should have just used the back channels that he has said he has to the devs

[fair elk]

unlucky this isnt cn and devs dont give a fk here

[west oak]

Bro pls

Idc

Take your doomer stuff somewhere else

Or say a different sentence

[fair elk]

nah I wont

[urban ridge]

maybe i should just do it too

atp

[stone dew]

Putting time cap even on arena talents is the most rtardded thing to do istg

[west oak]

Its your account

Can do whatever with it

[urban ridge]

well if guddle can speed hack and be live on twitch

[high terrace]

its like naraka cheaterpoint all over again

[urban ridge]

how is that even remotely fair

[high terrace]

boy oh boy

[west oak]

I mean you got to look at the devs taking action as a slow thing

Since it takes gathering proof

[high terrace]

but seriously did anyone see that virtua fighter 6 leak? cmon

[west oak]

And logging names

[urban ridge]

im just not gonna risk it

its sad af how trash people need to be to speed hack

[harsh hollow]

yes go ahead and get banned

[urban ridge]

rocksteady no one likes you

you're passive aggresive and weird

[west oak]

Yeah ik, its actually the worst

[high terrace]

naraka streamers cheat too they never get banned but some random who doesnt stream or play tournaments will

[stone dew]

I will quit this game as soon as lotm drops if it has good combat

[harsh hollow]

You say this to everyone that doesnt agree with you

[west oak]

Different devs

Idk why I need to keep saying that

Also different genre

[high terrace]

i dont think its as different as you make out

[urban ridge]

well you especially

[high terrace]

from what ive seen

[west oak]

Is it an mmo?

[high terrace]

all the cheats are the same github scripts

theres speedhack in naraka too

same shtty anticheat

[west oak]

Theres also one in cod

And?

[mental spoke]

devs dont insta ban because if they did insta bans then the hackers could do trial and error until they find something undetected

[west oak]

This

[mental spoke]

which makes the devs lives a lot harder than it has to be

[high terrace]

same anticheat, similar scripts, its already dealt with in CN but not here, naraka cheaters are dealt with in CN but not here

[rotund grotto]

holy

my chibi being used ong

[west oak]

Theyre going to spend some time quietly logging everyone who cheated and then ban their accounts and blacklist their mac addresses

Most likely

[rotund grotto]

lol

[mental spoke]

while they are at it they should ban everyone using gfn

[rotund grotto]

nooo

[limber vessel]

ip ban is better

[high terrace]

no, they should fix their netcode its not the gfn users fault the game runs like sht

[west oak]

Mac address ban is ip ban

[harsh hollow]

facts

[west oak]

Cant ban via ipv4

Bc those rotate

[limber vessel]

using public ip i mean

igig true

[west oak]

Yeah, ISPs rotate those around

[high terrace]

ban gfn players some of whom have to play on 70fps+ if they drop gfn

because the games netcode is awful?

gfn is a problem because the system sucks

[glad yoke]

If I reach 1500 will I get wild hearts whim immediately or wait till end of season?

[high terrace]

people play honor of kangs world pvp(idc about the game) at 250ms and it runs better than here

250ms is apparently PLAYABLE on hokw

[west oak]

Uh go play that then?

[stone dew]

Heavy on this

[high terrace]

im saying gfn isnt the problem the game is

[west oak]

I mean yeah

[high terrace]

u cant blame people using gfn it shouldnt make a difference

might as well ban anyone who lives too close to a server then

[west oak]

Gfn I dont think is bannable tbh

[high terrace]

why should it be

[limber vessel]

think of it as a p2w service

[high terrace]

its a disadvantage on any other game

[west oak]

Not saying it should

[open mirage]

I’ve given up on 1500, it’s too hard for me

[west oak]

Just stating a thing

[scenic citrus]

xd no

[open mirage]

Ah the ultimate hack

[scenic citrus]

my pc is out of order for a week and a half now, idk when its gonna get repaired

[high terrace]

ban averse and everyone on the leaderboard

theyre all frauds anyway

[west oak]

Oh damn :/

Do you have vods up on twitch?

[glad yoke]

Dont give up Im slightly getting closer. The matches lightens up each day since sweats are going up

[west oak]

I have a baby tank I want to send your way

[high terrace]

would it kill them to increase the minimum ping to 30ms?

[scenic citrus]

Uhh probably, I still do have a tiktok account and youtube with my gameplay

[open mirage]

How close are you? Closest I got was 1300 as healer and I don’t see any healers in 1500

[high terrace]

as a short term measure

[open mirage]

Maybe end of season might be possible

[west oak]

Oh whats your yt?

[glad yoke]

Im at 1200 strat nameless 45-60 ping. Im just chillin with my grind. Ill get to 1500 someday

[scenic citrus]

theyr both the same

[glad yoke]

Switch to dps fanbrella for pvp they are annoying to deal with

[west oak]

Pls remind me OTL

I forgot

;;;_;;;

[scenic citrus]

its uhh greenbotle

[west oak]

Oh yepp ty!

[dapper lance]

Why averse lmao

[high terrace]

his ping is too low he should be banned

ban everyone

[dapper lance]

O memes

[high terrace]

in a 10m radius of a server

[dapper lance]

I thought it was in reference to guddle getting flagged for real cheats

[high terrace]

50mile

[fast arch]

who is better ? averse or immortal

[high terrace]

bro this game is prob gonna be overrun by cheaters u know it as well as me

[dapper lance]

Immortal a cheater Averse is legitimate so

[west oak]

Tian lei

[dapper lance]

Ngl he has a 100% serene dodge rate that he said was because of "reflexes" I wouldn't be surprised if that was just AI dodge as well. If he'd use speed hacks he probably uses others

[craggy tree]

Tian Lei is a fraud

I think DaiMacUSau is way better than him

[dapper lance]

Averse called him out for it a while back, might have been truth to it

Crazy wwm drama development though 💀

[harsh hollow]

I would like to see the top players play in a room on a LAN tournament with computers provided to them

[tropic spire]

whoa damn

[tough abyss]

what does this button do

[open mirage]

lets you lag

[short wasp]

lets you lag

[tardy plume]

Give you the worst pvp experience of your life

[short wasp]

hey now you could be a fanbrella player

:D

what the hell is a dodge RAHHHH

[tough abyss]

pretty sure it's just placebo

it allows cross server matching regardless if you toggle or not

[dapper lance]

I pray for otherwise

Depends on how well the devs handle it

[high terrace]

i mean i want them to fix the ping thing and im good

at least then you can tell if someone is cheating

but i wont hold my breath

[tame hedge]

make you want to cry

[night heron]

I like they adding the cross server option for arena so you have to choose if you want to lag now not forced

Group strategy felt unplayable half the time

[limber vessel]

did they fix it in cn tho, not quite sure

if not the nwe cooked

[high terrace]

pff no

[limber vessel]

rip ig

[alpine mica]

Is the dual rope ping friendly? (Gauntlet and dust rope not twinblade that some weird people were using for a while there)

[night heron]

Nah I heard gauntlets is ping reliant so I assume that combo in general is

[dawn sonnet]

Hard to say since we don't have the gauntlet rope yet

Dust rope is fairly generous with starting and linking combos though

[alpine mica]

Cm does tho...but again do people even have that high ping in cn anyways 😭

[night heron]

They have 5 servers so its probably not as bad as we do but they do get issues when they pair between servers

[alpine mica]

Ah yes 5 servers in china and 5 servers for the entire rest of the world

Totally makes sense

[dawn sonnet]

@alpine mica You can check out this vid if you want to see gameplay of it

It does show some combos we can't do in global yet though

Most notably, rope dart light attack chain

[alpine mica]

Aight ty bro

[open mirage]

I hate rats

I just lost to a guy who didn’t even manage to catch me once in his combo but I traded attacks into him so many times

And I still lost because the rats killed me

[solid comet]

The rats can’t be stopped

https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-the-rats-are-coming-the-rat-is-coming-cheese-gif-6284186146533419373

[vast solstice]

This game is pathetic

The pvp mode

Exciting me from across the map

[solid comet]

Another rat victim

[vast solstice]

Executing*

[vast solstice]

Worst game I’ve ever played

[short wasp]

What meridian touch?

[vast solstice]

Nope

And that aside
I’ve asking how u guys teleport with meridian touch
Not a single person has said how

[short wasp]

Execute
Buddha palm

Fan

[vast solstice]

Hang dao blade is just too broken

[short wasp]

All 3 will change your end location

[night heron]

You just canceling the touch not actually teleporting like fan etc.

[vast solstice]

I don’t know how you make un even weapons in a 1v1 match

[vast solstice]

Thanks

[tardy plume]

It is fixed in cn iirc

[short wasp]

Heng isnt even completely dominating just learn the heng counterplay or play a better build

[vast solstice]

Like what?

[open mirage]

Yup play a better build, that’s my advice to myself every time I lose

[tardy plume]

Hengdao is not broken lmao

[short wasp]

Tab swap or Q through heng yellow flash

[tardy plume]

Its good to stomp noobs who do not know about priorities

[short wasp]

Both varied combo and instant charge light have low priority

[vast solstice]

And I don’t know how I will have almost 40k more damage than my enemy yet I’ll lose when he’s not a healer
This is is trash atp

[vast solstice]

If you’re pc player don’t comment on this

[night heron]

Heal off dodge/shield

[short wasp]

Theres like 5 different non healer ways to heal

Plus shield

[open mirage]

Evasive charge, boots attune etc

[night heron]

Also execute attunement

[tardy plume]

How is it different on console or mobile ?

[short wasp]

Hell the arena passives heal you up now

[vast solstice]

Mobile

[tardy plume]

Yeah how is it different

[open mirage]

The worst way to play

[tardy plume]

The concept is the same

[vast solstice]

Play on it and find out

[tardy plume]

Priorities is a fundamental concept

If you don't understand hit priorities then you're gonna lose to hengdao

Hengdao has the lowest priority out of all the weapons

[vast solstice]

And the way all of you parry

It doesn’t work for me

[tardy plume]

?

I press E

[vast solstice]

I’ve tried several
Times

I just get caught in the combo

[tardy plume]

You press a button on the screen

[open mirage]

I made my parry button very very big

[night heron]

They mean double parry maybe

[short wasp]

Divine counter instead

[tardy plume]

I don't double parry

[short wasp]

Also what build are you playing

[tardy plume]

Also for hengdao, if you're talking about it's special skill. Unless you ping diff them, do not parry

[vast solstice]

Strategic

[tardy plume]

Just block or dodge away

LMAO

[night heron]

Whats your ping

[short wasp]

You can ~ as soon as you see them use yellow attack

[tardy plume]

Strategic complaining hengdao is op

Massive skill diff

You can also Q

[short wasp]

Q also armors through it yeah

[tardy plume]

Or tab into sword

[vast solstice]

Try that when you playing on 170 ping
Against someone on 20

[vast solstice]

170+

[night heron]

Why you playing strat on 170 ping

[short wasp]

You're just disqualified from pvp

[tardy plume]

Ok so that's a you problem not a PC/mobile problem

[short wasp]

Especially on strat

[night heron]

Strat is biggest ping dependant weapon atm

[short wasp]

Play double spear or fanbrella

[vast solstice]

Ok pro

[open mirage]

Looks like you need more internet

[tardy plume]

I'm not pro but I'm pretty sure I know more than you

[short wasp]

But really

At 170 ping give up

Save your energy

Or wait for new servers

[night heron]

Are you getting a server for your area on 28th bifodd

[tardy plume]

Gotta love new players coming in here to complain and just pick fight with people who know more than you

[night heron]

Cause 170 is crazy high

[short wasp]

100 is high

[open mirage]

Muh ignorance > your knowledge duh

[short wasp]

170 is crazy

[vast solstice]

And I always easily get to mythic
It’s as if before I get to mythic I play with people on same ping as mine
But as soon as I get to mythic it’s an entirely different thing

[tardy plume]

You right

[tardy plume]

Are u sure you don't have cross region matchmaking checked

[vast solstice]

Not internet
I play on eu&africa and I’m in Africa se we have the worst ping

[tardy plume]

Yeah gg

Maybe middle east server will help a bit

[open mirage]

Well at least you’re getting a server nearer to you soon right?

[vast solstice]

I doubt

[vast solstice]

Who’s picking fights with you?
Ur fighting with ur self buddy

[vast solstice]

Exactly

[tardy plume]

Good comeback

[vast solstice]

I really don’t know
Haven’t seen any news

[night heron]

Middle East may be your new server

[short wasp]

Theyre adding MENA servers

[night heron]

It will probably still be 100 ping though

[short wasp]

[vast solstice]

Yh that should be better
That would be like 100 or a little less

[tardy plume]

Stay bad in mythic 500 37% wr buddy

[tardy plume]

[crisp merlin]

Any sea players here? Where is the main server of SEA?

[short wasp]

Thats way betyer than 170

[short wasp]

Singapore

[tardy plume]

Singapore

[tardy plume]

My bad I'm fighting with myself

[crisp merlin]

Goddamn its too far

[tardy plume]

Where you playing from

[crisp merlin]

PH

[vast solstice]

Yup

[crisp merlin]

I only get 30-40ms

[tardy plume]

That's playable. I'm also on 35-40 ping to my server

[short wasp]

A lot of good players are from vn

[vast solstice]

“Only”

[solid comet]

Can poet save me from hengdao yellow slash

[open mirage]

Yes

[tardy plume]

You won't get staggered

[crisp merlin]

There are too many low ping players in SEA

[vast solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[tardy plume]

But you will eat the whole damage

[short wasp]

You still take qi damage and hp dmg

[tardy plume]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-no-gif-perms-gif-27679658

[solid comet]

Worth it though to not get 100-0

[tardy plume]

You can be gigachad and keep punching cuz most of the time they will throw out the light charge right away and they will get staggered

[open mirage]

Poet kinda sucks with out fire though

[tardy plume]

Its enough to disrupt heng

And you can chain many things after poet 2

[dapper lance]

30-40 ms is bad in wwm

[short wasp]

Try to time your poet to land after their yellow slash ends so you can catch their recovery

[tardy plume]

Anything that's not 10 and below is bad tbh

[solid comet]

Does poet stagger enough for fan knock up

[tardy plume]

Very good coding

[tardy plume]

I think so

[short wasp]

Yes but it can miss

[tardy plume]

Might be ping combo idk

[crisp merlin]

VN players has 10ms

[short wasp]

Oh wait fan lift

[vast solstice]

😭😭😭
I think I should just stick to call of duty mobile

[tardy plume]

Depends on where

[crisp merlin]

Can parry my true combo ffs

[tardy plume]

South maybe, north not really

[short wasp]

When is gfn ending again

[crisp merlin]

Is this the ping cheat

[short wasp]

No

Thats openspeedy

Gfn is cloud gaming

[crisp merlin]

I mean not cheat but like it lowers your ping super

[short wasp]

You still have delay from you to gfn server

But it will drastically reduce effective action ping

[solid comet]

What other ways should I be handling the heng dao rush after my frail fan holding arm

[short wasp]

Bell

If they Q you, bell

Then fan lift off the stagger

[solid comet]

Thx xx

[short wasp]

Soaring spin also works but they can dodge it much easier

[tardy plume]

Hold block

[eternal tundra]

homie is a professional talon eater

but holding block is safe low elo. Don't do that on bozos higher on 1.5k mythic

[dapper lance]

Yes it remotes you into a good pc NVIDA hosts. You can choose a server close to the wwm server. It isnt perfect because there's input delay, but low ping is so good it doesn't matter

[open mirage]

Frog their attacks 🐸

[eternal tundra]

I'm a big fan

[short wasp]

You can show block with the intent to dodge

[dapper lance]

Some1 say panacea fan?

Sorry brainrot

[open mirage]

Ah my only fan

[eternal tundra]

f-fan? foams at the mouth

[eternal tundra]

might be best

[open mirage]

How do I punish dodge? It’s so much better than parry and block

People can heal off it 😡

[short wasp]

Nsword Q

[open mirage]

Sadge in healer

[tardy plume]

I've been knocked up in the middle of my hengdao Q before

So you can also try that there's prob a timing to that

[craggy tree]

@tardy plumebro, I got to the main event of godot's tournament

[tardy plume]

[craggy tree]

[tardy plume]

Hopefully no more cancerous double rope darts

[craggy tree]

I will meet saladphia tomorrow

SEA #1 pure nameless

[tardy plume]

Saladphia is a goated double nameless

I saw his stream and I wish people in my region would play like that instead of running

[craggy tree]

SEA #1 pure nameless vs SEA #2 tb+nsword

[tardy plume]

Clip it pls

I won't be able to watch unfortunately

[craggy tree]

Godot will upload it to youtube later

[tardy plume]

[spiral breach]

Bindo cant make it @craggy tree ?

[tardy plume]

It'd be nice to see from ur pov too cuz he's prob just gonna spectate, and you can't see skill CDs serene etc

Rip no link

LOL

Add a space in www

[craggy tree]

yea

the link there

[craggy tree]

ok ok

@tardy plume

In case you want to watch how I got a slot to the main event: w ww.youtu be. com/watch?v=pSuIAXTCImo

BO5, DaiMacUSau vs UongKiemThong (ex global #1) & Bún

[craggy tree]

Kirin dropped the tournament

not in his mood, he said

[spiral breach]

Owwww

[tardy plume]

I'll take a look later when I have data

Buns wifi on the plane

[craggy tree]

so many Singaporeans in the tournament

my 25ms latency won't get me far

[tardy plume]

5 ping too strong

[craggy tree]

no GFN option in SEA tho

[tardy plume]

Bro I'm playing on 40

[craggy tree]

buy GFN

[short wasp]

Is sg gfn dead

[tardy plume]

California kids getting out of everything

[tardy plume]

I ain't spending more money on this game lmao will prob soft quit if when POE2 patch comes out

[craggy tree]

yea, some of us move to Malaysia GFN. But both offer cheap tier GFN unstable FPS in-game

[tardy plume]

But idk pvp patch might make my catches not ping dependent anymore

[craggy tree]

that's why we're waiting for 120FPS 1440p GFN

[tardy plume]

(heng/SB)

[craggy tree]

5 more days

[tardy plume]

[eternal tundra]

HAHAHAAA

[tardy plume]

Stfu

[eternal tundra]

🙁

😔

😭

[solid comet]

🎤 IMAAAAAGINNNEE A WORLLLLD WITHOUT RAAATTTSSS

[eternal tundra]

that means no tom and jerry that means my childhood is ruined

🙁

[native coral]

Watch oggy

[eternal tundra]

OGGY holy I loved that show as wellk

[lunar lintel]

has anyone noticed if NA East is a bit laggier lately?

[harsh hollow]

laggier? its been the same for months now for me lol.

[solid comet]

solo qing is painful

[molten citrus]

Ull reach mythic soon dw

[faint falcon]

新的无名剑来了 欢迎大家去看我的新视频🤩

[harsh hollow]

yea just keep qing

[faint falcon]

The new nameless sword is here — everyone welcome to check out my new video😍

[solid comet]

one day...

over the raiiiinboooow 🎤

anyone else just like to aura farm in pvp and parry everything

just parried the heck out of a tb

[dapper rune]

Will umbrella get nerfed on 28th?

[dapper rune]

Just. Deflect or block

[green nacelle]

it only gets better once you start feed queueing into the 100% WR 30 win disappearing execute endless mystics speedup teams

atp make it so I can't queue against hanzi names

[dapper rune]

And watch that guys qi bar vanish

[rocky badge]

you guys see

new twinblade and gauntlet?

[molten citrus]

The best thing

[rocky badge]

combo in air siuuuuu

[molten citrus]

Dayum flying mode

[rocky badge]

i think its gonna release soon than silk-drum

because they have preview on it

maybe late or mid summer

[elder sedge]

damn looks sick

[solid comet]

they should release a tiny violen weapon

imagine playing that and slaying ppl with ur lil violin

[molten citrus]

That will change the whole game with long range attacks

[rocky badge]

violen its not from china culture

so

no hope

[sand pumice]

Need to wait 1 year

[rocky badge]

maybe in december

not half of year

[molten citrus]

Instead of violen we'll get qinglin

[distant pine]

if i change my battlegroup (currently mythic) everything will get reset?

[rocky badge]

yes

reset to beginner

but anything you get rewards

[distant pine]

even the title i got?

[rocky badge]

not reset

[distant pine]

okok

[molten citrus]

Whats the battle group reset abt

[rocky badge]

switch server/region

[molten citrus]

😭

[distant pine]

my recommended is canglang and im in jiangzhu

idk if i should change

though i get 69-80 ping currently

[molten citrus]

U should rcmd always better

[distant pine]

okie here we go again

[solid comet]

BUT WHYYYY

[rocky badge]

already told

[solid comet]

why these games always go like this

😂

[rocky badge]

where you from

jiangjzu its singapore

canglang its hongkong

[distant pine]

they prefer chinese cultural instrument

[distant pine]

nepal

[rocky badge]

Japanese

etc

[molten citrus]

Urbmobile?

[distant pine]

pc

and my uid is tokyo

[distant pine]

i changed my region based on this

[rocky badge]

i mean everything its bad for u

wait for gfn

[rocky badge]

xD

[distant pine]

ik i always miss my nameless spear q in tense situation sadly

[rocky badge]

wait for singapore gfn

or buy japanese gfn

to play in japan

[distant pine]

yeah

they introducing middle east servers

ill try my luck there

[rocky badge]

yea just wait

at least they add more server

for more country

[distant pine]

if they introduce mumbai server

[magic verge]

officially done pvp

it's just not fun anymore

[rocky badge]

wait for new patch

[magic verge]

u encounter more people using gfn or speed than not

[rocky badge]

may 28

haha gfn its allowed

[distant pine]

singapore doesnt have gfn for now right?

[magic verge]

i have 20 ping & people go out of true combos

doesn't make sense

[solid comet]

SPEED HACKKKERS

[magic verge]

the more toxic ones are DB on speed

[distant pine]

i met some guy multiple times and my qi was getting deleted unusally fast

[magic verge]

it's just not fun anymore

i hope devs do something

or i'm just gonna stop playing the game

even if i spent more than 200€

[rocky badge]

25 ping and still on top 1 SEA

fair enough

https://tenor.com/view/rat-dance-funny-rat-dance-dancing-rat-gif-1874324974880693067

[magic verge]

EU is a plague

everyone is smoking that gfn

[rocky badge]

yea if they have money

they will buy gfn

for advantage

[magic verge]

i can afford it but why ?

doesn't make sense at all that u need gfn to play the game

[rocky badge]

for experience?

they will happy if they can gap ping other player

[magic verge]

well it's bad experience

i don't like winning if it's unfair

[rocky badge]

its ur personal

[magic verge]

yeah but don't u agree that it's not normal ?

[distant pine]

singapore doesnt show up in gfn am i missing something?

[rocky badge]

i never mind to be gap ping, i will do something they can't escape

[rocky badge]

singapore dont have gfn

their gfn its from starhub

and 25 may closed

[solid comet]

i met bluetooth fanbrella, the stuns were horrifying

[rocky badge]

they high ping

player

so their Q slow than desync you see

[distant pine]

sad

[solid comet]

yeah but i couldnt dodge the stuns

[rocky badge]

wait for new company in singapore

after 25 may starhub will closed

and someone new will replace that

[magic verge]

are they gonna open servers in SEA ?

[distant pine]

finger crossed

[distant pine]

middle east and australia

[tardy plume]

High ping fanbrella are the scariest mfks out there

[solid comet]

i wish my stuns were bluetooh

[harsh hollow]

Asian named stacked teams are cancer.

thundercry/umbrella x3 and they all play like bots,

[solid comet]

smurfs are annoying

yeah

die die die

[eternal tundra]

yep

is this 3v3?

[harsh hollow]

yes

[eternal tundra]

or group strat? I notice more fanbrella in 3v3

[solid comet]

death to their family cow

so when parrying strat do u have to dodge the last part?

its taking forever to level this q 3s the qs are so slow

[night heron]

I mean its possible parry anything strat but it still takes skill so dodge is generally better

[eternal tundra]

skills, low ping and a quick finger

[night heron]

Also if your qi is low be careful knock up is painful

[fathom star]

What do you play ?

[rocky badge]

someone on NA

[solid comet]

im an innocent small frail girl fanbrella

[rocky badge]

i saw anticheat caught guddle cheating

what u guys feeling

[eternal tundra]

no comment

[fathom star]

Ah I play mobrella so we are like cousins

[eternal tundra]

i don't think it's fair to spread rumors just in case it's false

[night heron]

He still would beat everyone without but who knows

[solid comet]

relatives on the umbrella side

[fathom star]

Aye

[rocky badge]

yea i means he already 3 ms ping

[fathom star]

I'll teach you a trick with umbrella that I created that works so stupidly well

[rocky badge]

so i can't understand if he use cheat

just rumor, wait for netease

hehe

[night heron]

Wait for netease funny

[solid comet]

i just hit the q and hope it hits someone

[fathom star]

But can't land it twice use it to set up stuns vs stuff

You know the extreme drop skill the vfx with grass ?

[rocky badge]

who knows after 28/5 open speedy not work anymore

[solid comet]

ya

[fathom star]

Triple jump near somebody then do the drop and shoot the blossom

[solid comet]

there goes the neighborhood

[fathom star]

It hides your stun

[solid comet]

i can try it to see if anyone falls for it

[night heron]

If he used it all the way back in April and he still not banned then good chance he never would be

So it could be false positive

[fathom star]

90/100 it works absurdly well I sent a DM about the other part of the tech

[eternal tundra]

It works once

the next time the opponent fight you they are not going to fall for it again

[solid comet]

id fall for it

ill be disorientated like a deer looking at ur headlights

[eternal tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/omgbruh-corey-harris-omg-bruh-zoom-court-gif-2693074222613527227

[rocky badge]

interesting

follow this case

hehe

[solid comet]

maybe its a diff speedy

[rocky badge]

i means

if i a 3ms ping player

i never using cheat

[eternal tundra]

my days are numbered

[rocky badge]

just bully u guys

so i believe him 60%

40% suspect because why he install that

maybe for content

[fair elk]

everyone is using speedy ofc its installed

[night heron]

That latest evidence is a different account it wasnt guddle

[rocky badge]

u think he cheat?

3ms player with 102-104 hit

why does he cheat

[night heron]

5/16 was that lee person not guddle

[eternal tundra]

listening to Gozen is crazy

[fair elk]

everyone cheats hacks exploits

[eternal tundra]

bro is dooming non stop

[rocky badge]

oh ragebait king

[magic verge]

question is are they gonna ban 20% of pvp community 🤣

[rocky badge]

sorry for bothering u king

[pseudo finch]

my goat is too competitive to use a lame ahh cheat he would never

[eternal tundra]

I don't think the guy is cheating at all

YOU KNOW WHAT

POLYMARKET THIS

[elder swift]

If you cheat you arent part of the community tho ur just a loser 😂

[eternal tundra]

gamble it alllllll

[fair elk]

everyone can cheat for free the devs aint banning no one

[solid comet]

can i make my umbrella stun unreasonably fast with speedy? 😌

[elder swift]

Js report them w a clip if theyre moving way too fast

[rocky badge]

can you make a example for us king

[eternal tundra]

ok so I fought this fanbrella user whose Q came out SLOWER than normal

[rocky badge]

go pvp and set 120 hit tb

[eternal tundra]

I got caught by that every time

[elder swift]

what are the odds someone has natural 1ms? Just clip and report if slightly sus

[solid comet]

skill issue

he needs inners

[rocky badge]

no one has 1ms ping

[elder swift]

Even if they have it set to 105 hits

[rocky badge]

above 3

[fair elk]

only solution is put everyone on GFN

[eternal tundra]

yeah it was during master climb it was so funny

[solid comet]

innerless umbrella is like 3x as long to get off a stun lol

[elder swift]

So 3 is minimum?

[rocky badge]

yea

[night heron]

This would auto ban

[rocky badge]

1ms like u in host server

[solid comet]

tbh i used to do that in pvp was kinda fun

people would be dodging too early

[rocky badge]

in tournament like league of legend or cs2

[fair elk]

netease cant afford servers in every country its cheaper to partner with nvidia n make gfn free

[rocky badge]

you will have 0 ms ping or 2ms ping

because they host server in tournament

even u near the server on ranked

[elder swift]

Yeah thats true

[rocky badge]

minimum still 3

[solid comet]

netease should just sell speedy for echo beads

[rocky badge]

i means my opinion

guddle not use

but idk why he installed it

for youtube content or

[fair elk]

netease cant even adjust bad ping players speed

[elder swift]

Could be tryna test how it works on an alt

[eternal tundra]

I asked chatgpt it says Guddle is not cheating problem solved

^^^^^

[rocky badge]

gg

[night heron]

Did he show this on stream or something where we getting this Pic from the top one

[magic verge]

is it a hoax that they're working on a solution for animations to be independent of ping ?

[elder swift]

They never did that for cn

[rocky badge]

nah

[elder swift]

theyre not gonna rebuild the game system for global

[fair elk]

they dont know how to do it

[rocky badge]

just wait for his next stream

to ask

i means he not destroy his streaming carrer

[night heron]

Cause guddle detection did not show the exe like the other two cases did

[rocky badge]

because speedy

lol

he can make like 1k$ each stream

if he use, idk what to said

[night heron]

Ok thats a lie

He is not that big lmao

[rocky badge]

yea if you just think he make money from twitch only

so you wrong

have server like where wind meet content creator

he can get 100$/hour depend his view

[pseudo finch]

hes not even in the content creator he streams like 3 times a month 😭

[elder swift]

Who were the two other cases

[night heron]

Some South american guy and averse friend

[rocky badge]

he not streaming usually?

sound weird

doma and averse like full time job in this game

[eternal tundra]

so Jesuscry is just making stuff up now

bruh

[pseudo finch]

i been telling him on his chat he if he stream regularly he would be the biggest wwm streamer

[rocky badge]

https://tenor.com/view/grandma-grandma-sad-grandma-mad-grandma-rage-grandma-yap-gif-3152585952641000705

[pseudo finch]

but his dumbahh just dgaf 😭

[night heron]

Guddle is known for rarely streaming lol

[rocky badge]

i think he in program

lul

[pseudo finch]

i was even surprised he played with lucho yesterday lmao

[rocky badge]

my bad

[night heron]

Even during tournaments he wont stream ngl

[solid comet]

Not everyone wants to stream

[pseudo finch]

doma carrying him tomorrow

[rocky badge]

i means where wind meet pay a lot for streamer

idk why he dont stream hehe

[night heron]

I know I just saying he aint making 1k a day from some program he definitely not apart of lol

[pseudo finch]

i think he legit just wanna chill and have fun

he doesnt seem like the type to wanna stream fulltime (?)

[rocky badge]

i means he will on stream to solved the problems he got today

and off again

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-4693057381493629157

[night heron]

He already mentioned today he not going do anything just let devs handle

[solid comet]

what if he starts streaming and it says sponsored by speedy

[eternal tundra]

he CAN"T do anything

he's just a player in the end

[rocky badge]

like u said

if he got ban, he not even try to defend

[dawn sonnet]

No way they're doing that

[night heron]

He could technically do something but its not something I support cause theres some bad apple who do checks

[dawn sonnet]

They would have done it from the start if they had any intention

[lunar lintel]

I'm coping that he just installed it to see how it works and forgot to turn it off or something

[next coral]

bro probably just renamed the executable 🤣

[night heron]

Well someone is saying that was on guddle pc I wonder where they getting that info from cause averse never mentioned that being on guddle pc

[magic verge]

what i don't get is if he have 3ms what does it change to use speedy ?

[night heron]

Its like 2-3 extra hits which is about him going from 3 ping to 0-1

Its like a 20 ms fighting a 30 ms

But since hes already at 3 its huge advantage already without haha

[magic verge]

ain't people using gfn ... i guess that's alright & accepted since it's the legal way

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-mac-smh-gif-27571314

[night heron]

True I am Playstation so it definitely feels unfair to me but its whatever I stopped caring. But 3 ms is already better than gfn and thats not even counting the delay gfn has

[dapper lance]

Imagine if ps5 could download GFN and play pc games on console

They should do that it would be kinda peak

[night heron]

The game cant even run good normal haha

[dapper lance]

But on a hypothetical ps5 gfn version it would!

Since it would be like ur playing on pc

Just with a controller

They should make it ima suggest it that's like a money idea tbh

[night heron]

When I did gvg on pc it felt like an entirely new game compared ps5 even without gfn

[dapper lance]

Netease games and condole have been historically unoptimized unfortunately

[night heron]

Indeed I noticed my mobile feels better even

[dapper lance]

Feels like they just throw it on console amd say "here's the game gl bro"

I mean mobile at least has seperate matchmaking ques, and you could technically buy an OP phone

[night heron]

Somehow my wifi phone gets same twinblade hits as my ethernet ps5

[dapper lance]

But even the ps5 pro runs this game poorly

[night heron]

Yeah its unfortunate I been a console player since forever but it doesnt feel good to play it for this game as much

[dapper lance]

This has to be cope

[night heron]

Yeah I still question where they got that "it was on guddle pc"

[rocky badge]

i copy from another one

lul

[crisp merlin]

Can some1 summarize the new drama rn lmao

[night heron]

Theres an anti cheat creator who apparently used to be the anti cheat for naraka tournaments and they made one for wwm and guddle was detected 3 times, 2 other people were detected were proven using speedy so now people saying guddle been using it

[fresh rose]

Hey I’m starting pvp, something experienced in it for some advises ?

[dapper lance]

I know ratz from naraka, I know his work on the anti cheat program from when we had a big speed hacker problem there. I know for a fact it is not "just looking for file names". This is a lame ahh excuse. I also saw that the system timing clock was directly modified, which means he's opened and used the file in the event.

[crisp merlin]

He has 4 ping and still greedly use speed hacks

[night heron]

He has 3 ping actually haha

[crisp merlin]

holy

[dapper lance]

"Good" players cheat all the time, its not exclusive to bad players like allot of people assume. Esp when moneys involved .

[open mirage]

Yup, just look at speed running cheaters

[open mirage]

Learn your 10s combo, make sure you got serene

[dawn sonnet]

May as well get started and come back here when you have specific questions
You can begin with practicing combos on the arena dummy, but be aware that the dummy doesn't work exactly like players do

[night heron]

Make sure you got your arena attunement thats probably biggest one

[open mirage]

Get used to losing, you’re going to lose a lot

[fresh rose]

Mostly looking for someone to exchange in vc, but thanks 🙂

[night heron]

Oh you want an actual coach

What weapon are you anyways

Also do a twinblade test on 30s boss dummy to see what your ping hangs around

[dapper lance]

Even if best case he just has it on his pc, you shouldn't trust that cause why does he have that on his pc lmao