⚔️pvp-build-discussion

[bold aspen]

Legend 2

[molten citrus]

Healers i only saw them in 1.2k and 700-800

[regal kayak]

Very few mythic healers in 1v1, at least NA

[molten citrus]

Bruh ull get skilled its okay

[open mirage]

I’m stuck in the 1.2k 1.3k range

[molten citrus]

Its all same every server

[exotic dagger]

Parrying usually eats talon. I usually dodge those

[molten citrus]

Whats ur build

[solid comet]

i like holding block so they talon or yaksha so i can get a free stun

[open mirage]

Pure Healer

[bold aspen]

I fought one skilled nameless tho
He would do his gold attack after cloud step and then waves
Lost that one

[bold aspen]

I hate u

[molten citrus]

👆 dayum nice for a healer for real

[molten citrus]

Hey

[pine iron]

That's nice then.

[molten citrus]

Healer in 1.2k its so nice

[regal kayak]

Yeah I havent been able to get that high yet as pure healer

[exotic dagger]

Ngl playing strat and hating healers is just weird

[bold aspen]

Skill issue ig
But I will still hate

[molten citrus]

come to mythic ull see very annoying shameless

[bold aspen]

So hard to catch......

[minor halo]

Strat against healers is basically one sided 😭

[molten citrus]

True

[bold aspen]

I don't care if I lose most games after mythic
I just want to reach it once

But the game won't let me

[molten citrus]

Forgot again this i got poison in arena

[bold aspen]

They make me fight 11 streak players

[molten citrus]

Wts ur mastery rn

[regal kayak]

How many games this season

[exotic dagger]

Idk why but watching this Korean tank stream, there're practically no runners. Maybe it's jus a cultural thing

[bold aspen]

Just reached 30k

[bold aspen]

How do I check that?

[molten citrus]

ur ping?

[molten citrus]

Where u press arena to the left cornor of matchmaking

[bold aspen]

Around 80-90 on normal day

[open mirage]

Ouch

[molten citrus]

Ur build

[bold aspen]

Strat

[minor halo]

Bro's on 2 digits 🤧

[molten citrus]

Omg u should have reached mythic long ago

[bold aspen]

Is it good or bad?

[bold aspen]

Skill issue ig

[molten citrus]

Not bad but 50 is rcm

[open mirage]

Did you learn your 10s combo

[bold aspen]

I m not that good

[molten citrus]

I can teach u 😭

[minor halo]

I have never experienced 2 digits since I started the game 😂

[molten citrus]

Lmao 😝 i was the same untill i changed wifi

[bold aspen]

I only know 2 combos
Frog and free morph (can merge the 2 too)

[bold aspen]

The best I get is 75 (on a good day)

[minor halo]

Healer?

[bold aspen]

Would be great

[bold aspen]

Strat

[minor halo]

2 digits 😭

[molten citrus]

Dw my best was 59

[bold aspen]

Ohh 😅

[molten citrus]

Add me Harikws

[bold aspen]

That's the best

[exotic dagger]

Watch some good players can learn a lot on YouTube

[minor halo]

2 digits 😭

[bold aspen]

Sometimes my ping would just be at 85 and then jump to 500 for 2-3 sec

Enough to deal a lot of damage

[barren roost]

ping locking you out of beikng able to parry all sword waves is insane

[molten citrus]

i told u i was also like u never experienced double digit till changed wifi

[bold aspen]

I m outside rn
Will add as soon as I reach home

[molten citrus]

Ok 👌 ill wait for ya

[regal kayak]

If you get your strat combos down and practice you should be able to make mythic. Just keep at it.

[molten citrus]

Yea

[bold aspen]

Tried watching averse but he just fights without teaching so can't understand much

[regal kayak]

If you are on wifi and can get off that may also help

[open mirage]

Maybe watch a tutorial on how to combo instead, averse is too high level

[bold aspen]

I just know frog combo and free morph combo

[molten citrus]

Aigo is there like new tunning which makes the strt sword so immune like after brezze doing the martial arts skill and the special then charge till then they are immune

[bold aspen]

They may not be true cause of the ping tho

[barren roost]

But dont worry devs will fix panda costume trailoring bug

they heard us

[bold aspen]

Okay will try

[molten citrus]

Wts ur main ? Strt or hq?

[bold aspen]

Strat

[faint falcon]

If you don't especially love it, I suggest you give up on Strategic Sword — it's always been weak on the CN server

[molten citrus]

u should just do hq

[molten citrus]

u the real ?

[faint falcon]

im a 95 player in CN

[exotic dagger]

Teno primarily put out content from yilan who's a strat nspear main

Can learn a lot from there too

[molten citrus]

I mean real tenon😭

[solid comet]

just pull out nspear more u will win more

[lucid elm]

Facts

[barren roost]

nspear main smh

[faint falcon]

its me

[exotic dagger]

Will u be putting up any more tian cheng ge content? He's great but his content is hard to find

[molten citrus]

I trust 😆 ,big fan

[bold aspen]

Idk any hq attacks
I just use it for free morph combo or for that fast sweeping attack

[faint falcon]

Tian chen ge's gameplay requires very low latency support

[molten citrus]

😞

[bold aspen]

I love it tho
Wanna try heng too but still love strat

[lucid elm]

Recognize that name I watch your YouTube

[molten citrus]

Will u put twin blade players matches?

[regal kayak]

FWIW heng is a bit more ping tolerant

[molten citrus]

u should get a good beating

[molten citrus]

Yea ,twin with hen is good

[faint falcon]

I don't have authorization from any particularly skilled twinblade player

[bold aspen]

Would be good for me

[exotic dagger]

He moved to hangzhou or something didn't he. I watch his earlier content none of his combos are true lmao

[bold aspen]

.......what can I do......idk much about the combos

[minor halo]

Your ping is decent wdym

[molten citrus]

Nooooooooooooooooo😭

[bold aspen]

I didn't knew that we can parry start dash skill till like a week ago

[faint falcon]

The environment for the Mo blade is also very tough

[regal kayak]

Yeah if you are struggling with lag it could help. One of my disciples who plays from south America switched and it helped him break through to mythic

[exotic dagger]

Yea that why I like his stuff. I'm tank also lol

[molten citrus]

Just get enough beatings all will be good

[regal kayak]

But with more work you can get there with strat Hq on your ping too

[bold aspen]

Is it??
Most people can fire breath me even when they r not drunk in advance after execute tho

[bold aspen]

Ohh

[faint falcon]

If you're being held back by lag, Double spear are a solid choice

[minor halo]

That's not ping

[bold aspen]

😅😅

[molten citrus]

Just change to hen

[solid comet]

i fdoun the trick

just be unreasonably aggressive

[molten citrus]

???

[minor halo]

For which?

[molten citrus]

Thatsssssss

[solid comet]

hengdao

[lunar lintel]

what's the fastest group strat to solo q for daily? 3's, 4's or 5's?

[solid comet]

just run at them

[bold aspen]

Nots not strat's fault tho
I like strat cause of bleed effect

[exotic dagger]

Recently found this Korean tank streamer solchan. It seems in Korea ping is very good for everybody. His ping combos will never land so he plays in a manner than don't even try to ping combo. It's ridiculous

[molten citrus]

Lol yea dash dash dash special

[bold aspen]

Could be skill idk....

[barren roost]

nameless spear is so weak compared to nameless sword

[minor halo]

Very true sensei

[barren roost]

sword is so much more useful

[exotic dagger]

I was wondering what was that

[lucid elm]

Sword is actually a weapon

[minor halo]

Nahh

[pine iron]

See, this is what I'm been noticing, most CN players favour gauntlet, rope dart and tang Dao more (and n.spear

[faint falcon]

I've recently been trying to play PVP on the global server because I'm struggling with Japanese and Korean IDs on the JP server

[molten citrus]

😞u should change strt is complex

[minor halo]

They synergize

[regal kayak]

How are you liking it?

[molten citrus]

Lowkey shoudnt the swrver choose sg how did it choose jp?

[exotic dagger]

I saw some of that disaster

[bold aspen]

Would not hate learning it
I just love the weapon and have been playing it since the start

[pine iron]

Context??? Ping issues?

[faint falcon]

It took me nearly 200 matches to reach Mythic rank

[barren roost]

spear is just skillless praying you hit something

[exotic dagger]

His ping is 105 or something

Can't be helped

[barren roost]

but sword is so hard to fight against

[molten citrus]

hehhe

[pine iron]

Yikes 😬

[minor halo]

105 still decent

[molten citrus]

Thats nice for a pve player

[minor halo]

As long as it's still white, it's a decent ping

[molten citrus]

No around 90 is best

U should try vpn

[bold aspen]

I have played more than that and m still at legend

[molten citrus]

Trust me 100 aint good

[minor halo]

Best?

[pine iron]

80 ms is the decent enough ping without causing xomplication

[minor halo]

Still decent

[molten citrus]

No 100 ping can make combos struggle players escaping or counter atatck

[faint falcon]

But it took me 800 matches on an account using strategic sword to reach Myth rank🥲

[solid comet]

skill issue

[pine iron]

Not really DX playing EU PVP back then with 100 ping and mythic ranking with that ping is not fun lmao. Hardstuck to 1k points only (1050)

[molten citrus]

thats…..

[barren roost]

over 1k Mythic everybody has nameless sword they barely even use the spear

i get cooked so hard

[bold aspen]

Not ur main probably
It's my main so I should be good with it but I m not 😔😔

[minor halo]

You could say so

[pine iron]

I also heard that JP server or Asia server in general are teeming with cheaters who use speed hacks

[lucid elm]

Hang back and wait for the barrages and soaring spin best you can

[minor halo]

800 matches is wild

[pine iron]

Nameless and twin blades

[molten citrus]

Kore has more

[minor halo]

Your win rate is prolly less than 20 😂

[pine iron]

Yeah the Asia server, (00+) I think.

[faint falcon]

Not bad — 51%

[pine iron]

00-asia
10-NA
20-eu
30-hongkong/TAIWAN
40-SEA

[barren roost]

man i hate that games always have a meta

[faint falcon]

TangBlade has a 70% win rate

[barren roost]

why cant it be balanced

[molten citrus]

[pine iron]

It's inevitable tho

[barren roost]

yeah kinda

[pine iron]

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[molten citrus]

For real

[minor halo]

What's the list for again?

[bold aspen]

So other regions can never get single digit ping?

[molten citrus]

Server

[pine iron]

If you are near and have decent internet you could have

[regal kayak]

CN tangdao buffed compared to global RN

[molten citrus]

No lmao

[minor halo]

You mean the least ping in a server...not the average

[faint falcon]

So high latency is very unfriendly to the strategic sword

[pine iron]

I remember that wwm will have Middle east server

Maybe my ping will be more decent now lmao

[molten citrus]

But still heng blade is dayumgood

[bold aspen]

😭😭

[minor halo]

Is unfriendly to all players

[obsidian cliff]

is sea server dead for group strat

[regal kayak]

Yeah i dont really think it needs a buff, too bad its about to get one 🙁

[molten citrus]

😭 😭 😭 😭 no way high ping start is dumb ahh strong and very confusing

[pine iron]

Strat sword maybe strong but it's still low tier PvP wise due to its cons

[bold aspen]

Btw is there any animation or sound to which we can reach to for mo blade pulling attack?

[faint falcon]

I'll grab two screenshots to show you so you can get the gist...

[molten citrus]

Well it should be good for me as a heng and tb player

[pine iron]

Unless you are Yilan who's built different in stray+N.spear

[regal kayak]

Also its kinda useless for gvg

[minor halo]

Mobile or PC?

[barren roost]

is it hacks when the enemy has no walk animation anymore

[pine iron]

That no hit in arena of Yilan still makes me at awe ngl

[molten citrus]

no i mean i met players they were like animtion first dmg later

[barren roost]

he just floated

[obsidian cliff]

pc

[molten citrus]

True

[minor halo]

It's ping

[bold aspen]

??

[molten citrus]

Sweaty

[molten citrus]

Pulling?

[bold aspen]

The skill

Idk if it's called special or something else

[minor halo]

Easy to dodge

[molten citrus]

Deflect or spam drunken poet

[pine iron]

Is there a cheat engine that intentionally makes your ping lag?

[bold aspen]

Other than shield

[minor halo]

Nope

[bold aspen]

Yeah I mean can we react to it or do we have to predict?

[barren roost]

sometimes its just the perfecvt moment to lag right ?

[solid comet]

how do i defeat him with my pvp skills

[pine iron]

Yeah that.

[regal kayak]

I mean if you miss the deflect you can serene out of it

[bold aspen]

Keep trying and u will definitely do it one day

[pine iron]

I have 80 ms and I keep checking it in GearUP and it still lags

[molten citrus]

Notice the player he will go to the side drag ,its easy to notice

[bold aspen]

So not reaction??
Just predict or seren

[minor halo]

Lion roar?
He should be terrified of his king right?

[molten citrus]

U can see him moving on his skill

[regal kayak]

You can learn the animation too, player pulls spear vertical in the air

[bold aspen]

Ohh
Will try to notice

[minor halo]

Mostly predict and it's easy to dodge

[molten citrus]

The imagw wont load

[pine iron]

Very easy to bait it out too the serene

[minor halo]

I think it's actually the spear that does that

[pine iron]

I mean I also fell from bait to serene too

[bold aspen]

Okay

[bold aspen]

Okay

[bold aspen]

Idk I can rarely dodge it
It's range is so big

[minor halo]

Moblade doesn't really have stagger so there no harm using a serene on them

[molten citrus]

Otherwise u can frog 🐸

[graceful cradle]

What is the most fun weapon combo and build to play in gvg and 1vs1 arena? I tried a few.

[molten citrus]

Yea

If it aintfemale char

[pine iron]

What arena attunement do you all use in armors??

[bold aspen]

Need to react to that too na
If I got hit once then it's stagger all the way

[solid comet]

WFF

[pine iron]

Tenacity for serene breeze or cool down reduction for serene?

[molten citrus]

Dmg red on stagger

[pine iron]

How about DMG reduction for martial arts?

[molten citrus]

No its not stagger on first hit

[regal kayak]

Nm you asked attunement. Stagger

[molten citrus]

U will get more dmg when u are staggered ,the martial art is just the main skill

[minor halo]

Sooo what does female do?

[pine iron]

I used flawless defense too back then lol

[molten citrus]

[pine iron]

Fair

[orchid leaf]

parry parry parry

[molten citrus]

Female can free morph as u get sun and spam the attacks

[regal kayak]

Just saw you asked about attune. Stagger damage.

[barren roost]

does someone has a video how he beat a high level tb player

i really dont get it

[pine iron]

Yeah, I already changed it to DMG reduction when stagfwred

[bold aspen]

Ohh

[orchid leaf]

pvp in this game is unbelievable easy if you ever played battlegrounds or typesoul

[fiery isle]

Can weapons start with crit rate

[pine iron]

Still, what's better, tenacity when Serene, or cool down reduction for serene?

[minor halo]

Dunno bout that 😂... they're all the same to me

[fiery isle]

Idk if I’ve ever seen one

[molten citrus]

i donr have nitro sorry ,try using poet and running in ringa roses

[molten citrus]

meet a good tank player

[pine iron]

Is the storm breaker + Heng in global viable right now or is it only for CN right now?

[minor halo]

I don't meet much tanks in my mid elo
Maybe at 2000+😂

[barren roost]

with poet he cant spin on me ?

[regal kayak]

Viable right now

[fiery isle]

It’s good rn

[molten citrus]

I dont know much but u know what the players i met they aint good with sb and hen

[molten citrus]

Lol true ,real tanks above 1.6k

[fiery isle]

Can weapons start with crit rate or nah I need to know if I’m wasting my time trynna get one

[barren roost]

bro im too bad at this game 😢

[minor halo]

Sharrrp 😂

[barren roost]

theres too many tactics and mechanics

[molten citrus]

U gotta pridict he will use dash skill ,try using twin blade for now and get used to it

[minor halo]

1.3-1.7 is mid elo already

There aren't much tanks anywhere

[pine iron]

Met only one who can utilize it good in group strategies, but I'm 1v1 SB+Heng players are not aggressive which I punish them for it gravely lol.

[minor halo]

Not many people wanna be a tank 😂

[molten citrus]

Yea

[pine iron]

I mean storm breaker doesn't act like a tank when using Heng blade as pair

[minor halo]

The moblade is the tanking part

[molten citrus]

lol 😂 after they sb martial skill theres a second u can catch them

[minor halo]

Storm is mainly for control

[molten citrus]

Its just to create distance

[pine iron]

Dmg reduction and vulnerability application

I feel SB + Heng is not ping friendly lol

[eternal tundra]

sb is not ping friendly period

[molten citrus]

me not even letting them out of my combo even if they breeze or the second breeze

[molten citrus]

If u dont mind try heng and tb

[pine iron]

How tho, I feel SB+Heng is more for being reactively aggressive instead of being passive

[pine iron]

High pressure aggressiveness. Really nice if you can use twin blades

[barren roost]

YO MY MAN

[graceful cradle]

What is the most fun weapon combo and build to play in gvg and 1vs1 arena?

[barren roost]

Holy mother

this poet is sick against TB

[eternal tundra]

full tank mo blade light attack spam

[barren roost]

i can finally do something

[eternal tundra]

truat

[pine iron]

1v1 (fanheng) (hengTB)(Storm breaker + HQ)

[molten citrus]

Oh u can play most of the part with sb after u loose a breeze u cant get staggered in sn

[barren roost]

i have to understand this poet

it needs to become a part of me

Schiller

Ghoete

and all those mf

[pine iron]

The drum in CN is cancerous lmao

[molten citrus]

Lol its so broken i dont let anyone escape even with both serene

[minor halo]

I haven't used tank long enough to know bout that
I only used it during the weapon effect event 😂

[molten citrus]

use breath too

[molten citrus]

Whats this drum aby

[pine iron]

It's certainly good combination because it gives you certain tenacity and gold attacks too

[pine iron]

The new weapon of masked troupe in CN drum and ribbon +new fan martial art

[molten citrus]

U get armor so poet aint getting staggered

[minor halo]

Guys, don't be toxic and don't be a sweat...always remember that pvp is fun🤧😁

[pine iron]

PvP is fun on certain days. Don't play PvP at night when you feel sleepy and groggy

[molten citrus]

i really wana show how i beat top player with just aggressiveness but no nitro poor me

[barren roost]

😮

[molten citrus]

I havnt checked. D

[barren roost]

wait breath would just cancel his Q ?

[pine iron]

Have you tried Nameless sword + twinblade?

[barren roost]

and he would stagger ?

like a dog ?

[molten citrus]

Yea but if he anticipates he can deflct

[molten citrus]

If he gets hit just do poet its extra dmg

[molten citrus]

That was my old combo

[pine iron]

You can watch flash panda for Heng + twinblade combos too or you can practice it at dummy lol

[molten citrus]

Its really good one causs u can just frog with nm if ur late on cooldown

[pine iron]

It's my top PvP guildmates choice of PvP build too, the twin+nameless sword. Very annoying

[molten citrus]

i fogured the combo without watching flash panda thats my first time for real

[molten citrus]

Lol 😂 it is ,nm catch twin blade spam

Bwahahha

[pine iron]

I haven't won against good N.sword+twinblades players yet. They are that annoying lmao

[molten citrus]

Lowkey it has disadvante cause nms dosnt have much other attacks

[molten citrus]

U just need to not get caught by nms

Or u can poet on nms

Lowkey u havnt told me ur build

Twin did u leave 🥺

[pine iron]

HQ+ HENG

[lean bough]

buff h*ng dao devs

[molten citrus]

siprising

Hows the combo though

[pine iron]

Very fun

[molten citrus]

Tell me

[pine iron]

Kinda predictable tho since the players always run away when I have my Q skill of spear available

[molten citrus]

:dorobald:

[pine iron]

You can chain the combo of Heng and HQ with ease

[barren roost]

fr

[molten citrus]

Tell me

The combo

[molten citrus]

Wts ur rank

[pine iron]

The charge attack of HQ and last hit to dual wield of Heng can be considered true combo so.

Charge attack>dual wield>enhanced R and enhanced light attack> QQ>3 heavy Atk > drunken poet execute

[molten citrus]

hmmm 🤨

[barren roost]

rn its 1016 i have fallen down

tbh im dumb i dont have all arena attunemnts

[pine iron]

Or,
HQ Q skill> scroll down to Heng then hvy attack 3 times > freemorph > light charge attack then R> then QQ of Heng> freemorph > scroll to HQ then charge attack

[lean bough]

i'm a humble expert 2

[barren roost]

on all my gear

[molten citrus]

There’s a gap with enchanve r Cause after u dual weild and r the other person has enough time to poet

[molten citrus]

get ur tunnings i did the same starting of my pvp journey

[pine iron]

True, you can use free morph immediately. I use it sometimes if the opponent can Drunk poet

[barren roost]

cant anymore

i wasted it all

have to wait till monday

[molten citrus]

U can do light attck

[wispy elm]

anyone joining me for perception forest duo ?

[molten citrus]

isnt this too long the secodn breeze will happen at heng second

[molten citrus]

Me too

[pine iron]

So, HQ charge attack to last hit,> dual wield > free morph >R.

Or for simplicity sake,

Charge attack, free morph, scroll down to Heng then light charge attack

[molten citrus]

This good 😌

[pine iron]

When the enemy is exhausted or 0 QI bar I always cut off my combo Depending if it's close to returning

I always drunk poet before execute

[molten citrus]

[molten citrus]

shake hand gif

[pine iron]

But still, ngl, having HQ spear makes the opponents cautious so I can't usually do the combo all the time lmao

Experienced opponents know the pros and cons of HQ lol

[molten citrus]

i am thinking of a combo strting with hen

[molten citrus]

Ya thats why i think u should st with hen not spear

Cause spear is total hell once caught

[pine iron]

The Q of Heng blade in global doesn't give you invincibility or tenacity right now unlike in CN if I remember correctly

[pine iron]

Yeah, it's my bad habit considering I was Dual spear back then in pvp

[molten citrus]

Yea ,if u q once the enmy starts running , wait for his second dash then q ,special ,switch hq spam

[lean wharf]

Did u just say heng is bad in pvp

😭 😭

[pine iron]

It's still unpolished unlike In CN swrver

[molten citrus]

Legit dual spear needs some buffs

[pine iron]

Lack of range and combo capability yeah lol

[lean wharf]

Heng isnt bad in pvp lol

[barren roost]

it is very bad currently

[pine iron]

It's not bad, it's unpolished.

[barren roost]

why do you think it gets so massive buffs

[pine iron]

Inconsistent

[lean wharf]

Im not talking to you bro, hes saying its bad

[lean wharf]

Its not bad, you might just be bad with it

Which is fine

[molten citrus]

yea i tried playing that got beating like hell had to use nm spear for the breathe spam hahaha

[pine iron]

With my state of ping, HQ and Heng is my best bet lmao.

But oh well, I returned using phalanx and Heng lmao

[lean wharf]

Whats ur ping

[molten citrus]

Bro nobody noticed why and how i got this

[molten citrus]

try twin blade and heng pretty simple with t6

[lean wharf]

Fanbrella and rats are a ping friendly build

[pine iron]

80 ms and it fluctuates to 120

[pine iron]

If only I have low ping

[lean wharf]

Im sorry bro, and here i am complaining about 30

[pine iron]

I managed to reach mythic at 110 ping in EU btw hahahaha

[barren roost]

ok

i still think its bad 🙂

seems the buffs proofs me right 🙂

[lean wharf]

Dw, it never gets better. You have ppl complaining about sub 10 ping. But its simply because the lower you go, the more u realize no matter how low ur ping is, someone will always have lower and walk out ur combos anyway

[molten citrus]

No 80-100 is good enough i tried playing my build on 90 -100 it works if u just dont do twin blade normal attacks ,if u only use tb for catch then its good

[lean wharf]

Idk if im wrong, but isnt the buff just for pve and for the mo blade?

Im probably wrong so correct me if i am

[barren roost]

why do you argue so hard when you u dont even know anything

[rough dew]

You take that back.

[lean wharf]

Just because i dont know the future update of the heng doesn’t mean im wrong about it being good for pvp rn

[molten citrus]

Like th dash-dual skill-e r-hen light-er -hen light-free morph-charge hen- execute-charge hen for a milli sexond then frog to hit change to tb then dash spame process from start

[lean wharf]

And yes i probably do know more than you considering im prob higher rated than u if u think hengdao is bad in pvp

[molten citrus]

No

[lean wharf]

Its just not

[pine iron]

Dual spear ftw

[molten citrus]

Ur pc?

[pine iron]

Most of martial arts weapon are inaccessible right now with this ping. For example, twin blades.

[molten citrus]

Aigo it works fine for me cause i am mobile

[pine iron]

What's your ping ??

Stupid Netease and their stupid coding

[molten citrus]

Though its 50-70

Previously i was like 80-100 cause of wifi issue

[molten citrus]

Netease ping is related with speed or distance

Ngl i got closer the pong got low

[pine iron]

Are you on SEA server??

[molten citrus]

Yes

[pine iron]

You playing in mobile then??

[molten citrus]

Yes

[pine iron]

Have you tried facing pc players?

[molten citrus]

Yea 😭 my freinds are pc

Lowkey i can challenge a starting mythic from pc

I was like lucky with aggressiveness aganst a 76 so i won

[eternal tundra]

im a big fan

[pine iron]

You can challenge PC players by joining in group strategies

[molten citrus]

I do 🙂‍↕️ have like 7 win streaks

[lean wharf]

I hate you

[pine iron]

I should try doing battle healer role in group strategies too ngl

[molten citrus]

ur healer?

[pine iron]

Nope Pure DPS through and through

But it's getting tiring ngl

[molten citrus]

i can feel that legit

[pine iron]

Sometimes it is great supporting

Doing support role I mean

[molten citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-panda-gif-27369088

Tiring

[tall sphinx]

Is rainwhisper still the best gear for double rope dart? Not mortal rope dart in cn server

[pine iron]

Bamboocut dust (fettered rope and umbrella) is a support role even if it's dps

[molten citrus]

I guess so

[tall sphinx]

Is double rope dart good for neutral?

Neutral playstyle

[tardy plume]

If you think hengdao is bad you're just bad at hengdao

[molten citrus]

I hate that rope and especially that f******* umb

[solid comet]

i just wanna hang out in the air with my umbrella why does everyone keep shooting me down?!

[tardy plume]

Its extremely versatile

Its just a little bit ping dependent right now

[tardy plume]

Cuz ur umbrella is ouchy

[pine iron]

Same lmao

It's very deceptive weapon

[molten citrus]

idk double rope is legit rare

[molten citrus]

That new trick is too much

[molten citrus]

cause umb is annoying if u just stay in air

[pine iron]

Finger snap and boom, more damage to you

[molten citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-gif-12576612812559588598

So true dayum

[solid comet]

so u just shoot everyone in the air

[molten citrus]

i dont cause i dont have arrows too shoot i just get annoyed and spam tb when the land

[tardy plume]

The moment I see you jump in the air I'm cloud stepping you

[molten citrus]

Agreed

[pine iron]

Do you all use cloudstep in PvP?

I just use golden body and ghost step instead of cloudstep

[solid comet]

i cloud step to avoid hengdao yellow attacks

[molten citrus]

Golden body is wste of qi

for emergency 🚨 use

[pine iron]

Golden body is good for recovering QI immediately tho

[barren roost]

i thought about getting golden body again

[quartz path]

Best weapon in the game after twin blades

[molten citrus]

Cant disagree but ghost steps lowkey i prefer doing fake frog then steps

[molten citrus]

somone who knows vale of twin blade yaya

[pine iron]

I will only use leaping toad once it got the Golden attack buff

[quartz path]

Unreactable ahh weap

[barren roost]

what is the condition for this ?

im back at the elo i started

[molten citrus]

I see

[pine iron]

Max tier of upgrades iirc

[barren roost]

truly a waste of time 📿

[barren roost]

sometimes the frog so fast

[molten citrus]

U dont get stagger ?

[barren roost]

uninterruptable it feels

[quartz path]

One must imagine Sisyphus happy

[pine iron]

Like the palm attack giving you two stacks of you max upgrade it, the leaping toad can turn into gold attack

The ghost steps max upgrade can let you increase your dmg dealt to enemy when perfect dodge

[quartz path]

It still staggers as soon as youre out of the animation I think

[molten citrus]

Sighh u need to think out of box

[barren roost]

once my gear is good you will all see 😢

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-19124743

[quartz path]

LMAO

[molten citrus]

Huhh?????????? What !!!!!!!! Dmg increase ? On steps?

[pine iron]

Do the runner strat

🤣

[quartz path]

Me at 23k fighting to take 1/4 of a max level's health

[molten citrus]

dayum

[barren roost]

i wish i could see the gear of my pvp enemies

[molten citrus]

Whats ur mastery

[quartz path]

Heng blade and strategic is sneaky meta but you ain't hear it from me

[molten citrus]

Wts ur build and tunning rn send ss

[barren roost]

dont ask please 😢

its actually not that awful

but im missing 2 pvp attuments

monday you remember

and i have almost 80 crit

100 prec

2300 max phy

Like it aight

i also have heng blade god stat

[pine iron]

It's not a sneaky meta. It is kinda mid combination

[molten citrus]

In my life i only did that when my freinds told me to play shameles build

[quartz path]

It's sneaky meta trust

[pine iron]

You could choose more better combination of a weapon for hengblade than that strat sword

[quartz path]

But you need 5 ping to execute

Teust

[pine iron]

Fettered rope dart is good for Heng blade

I tried it but it's not for me

[molten citrus]

I disagree

[quartz path]

I'm using nameless and switch to strat sometimes

[barren roost]

that nameless Q out of nowhere

that is what you want

[molten citrus]

U gotta be in the office of netease

[molten citrus]

Bro skill issue i have 60%

[barren roost]

can you dodge nameless Q if you dont predict it ?

can a human react on that ?

[molten citrus]

Yea .theres delay in nms throw

[pine iron]

It's very easy

To parry it

There's a sound indicator. I kinda rely on it lol

[barren roost]

oh maybe should turn up enemy volume

[pine iron]

If you are not sure to parrying it, just block it

[molten citrus]

I prefer dogging evry single tick 😈

[barren roost]

i remember turning something like enemy volume down

or rrather "other player"

[pine iron]

The enemy with nameless sword shouts (if you are in CN voice dub) when throwing sword

[molten citrus]

I am not sure if that exists

[barren roost]

yeah this i turned this off

only in chinese ?

this name calling for attacks

like in animes

[molten citrus]

Lol yea not for all in eng

[pine iron]

NAMELESS SWORD Q ATTACK Female ATTACK: TSI!

[molten citrus]

In Chinese it is

[pine iron]

Or you could just look at animation, when you saw the enemy about to do the throwing animation immediately parry

[barren roost]

the chinese revealing their secrets too easy

need to change the lang

[pine iron]

Hell, the you could predict when the nameless sword player about to do the special skill

[molten citrus]

U wana know the best trick?

[barren roost]

i would never remember wrong

i think

[molten citrus]

dayum lol

[barren roost]

tell me

[molten citrus]

Get beaten so many times u unconsciously do every

[barren roost]

yeah i know but i feel like i fought Nameless sword now so often since its 75% of all fights

its time that something happens

[molten citrus]

Awaken ur inner power

[barren roost]

would be cool to know your winrate for each weapon combination

[molten citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cult-the-craft-ritual-gif-11800002

[barren roost]

TB would be by far worst i think

[slate siren]

ICE MAN BABY WHY YOU SOOOO COLLLDDDDD

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tongue-shaking-gif-1214800249503457963

[molten citrus]

So like twin blades+heng blade=85%, nm+twin blade played this from st of the season took me 67 matches to reach mythic around 70-80%

[solid comet]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-menacingly-spongebob-standing-there-gif-19452999

me looking at a nameless

[molten citrus]

what the tb is the best

[molten citrus]

Lol did u get beaten

[tall sphinx]

In here, is the season challenge considered permanent?
Or permanent are basic intermidiate and advanced challenge?

[barren roost]

nono i mean my enemy has that weapon

im full stonesplitt str

i dont have any other weapons

[molten citrus]

U should change the mo blade one

[barren roost]

i played TB in the first season

[molten citrus]

Permanent

[barren roost]

back then stuff was simple 🚬

[molten citrus]

Yea tb and rope so easy queezy

[barren roost]

yeah would be smart for pvp i might do that at some point

[molten citrus]

U should do nms with heng

[barren roost]

i even play a TB Inner Way

[molten citrus]

Or dual swords

The best

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-fall-cute-snow-awesome-gif-7351047395073024664

[eternal tundra]

nms and dual sword seems to be popular this season

[sleek ermine]

is there anyone who would like to play group strategy with me? i'm rather new to pvp still, but i like that gamemode
i just need a team to play and practice with

[molten citrus]

Ngl nms is always popular ,dual swords is legit feels like aura

[barren roost]

with NMS you really need that inner way

[molten citrus]

No need ,u nedd hng blade one

[barren roost]

no sword beams ?

to shoot them out suddenly

[molten citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[regal kayak]

Permanent is anything not season

[molten citrus]

Lol

[molten citrus]

Beams?

[barren roost]

yee that T6 NMS Inner Way

isnt that kinda mandatory if you play NMS

wait is nms sword or spear ?

or no mans sky ????

[molten citrus]

Nmaless sword

[barren roost]

ah yeah then what i said

[molten citrus]

Usually i dont use nms spam cause its annoying to myslef

[molten citrus]

Prefer using strt

Well its mandotory if u wana spam only

[barren roost]

i remember i have a NMS Harmonic Core skin

i should definitly choose NMS

[tardy plume]

Sword morph is not mandatory

[molten citrus]

Lowkey thats way better for spamming

[tardy plume]

If you don't play for sword wave spam

[barren roost]

it might not have been fully wasted after all

[molten citrus]

i want the hengdao vfx

[barren roost]

i mean i dont have to beam spam thats the thing

the Q is also super strong

it catches me so ofguard

[molten citrus]

If u dont spam the sword waves then u dont need one

[barren roost]

but the problem with NMS would be a bit my build ofcourse

i have so much crit

atleast i went full Max Physical too

[molten citrus]

Nms is upon affinity

[barren roost]

yeah there its a bit incompatible

[molten citrus]

Hq and strt is crit based

I believe so

[barren roost]

tb too ?

[crystal folio]

HQ and strat is affinity

[molten citrus]

Yes tb is full crit

[crystal folio]

[molten citrus]

I dont know to just random guessing

[solid comet]

man i think i just fought against a speed hacker, they would just run up and spam light attack once over and over

[strange meadow]

I got my core just yesterday when it dropped

Is very nice

[barren roost]

im wondering if you can transition from a NMS Weapon Swap to a Heng and then do a combo of any kind ?

because in combination with the shield you gain from the NMS Q you would deal even more Crit dmg

which would be a compatiblity again

and speak against going for sword waves again

[molten citrus]

Its skillss

[molten citrus]

Dont make me jelly baka

[pine iron]

St rt?

[fathom star]

Is relaying gear worth it ?

[barren roost]

when its perfect

and would get a stat boost from it

[fathom star]

All my 86 is perfect

[molten citrus]

Hmm 🤨 u need very low ping if u dont swap directly after nms q

[molten citrus]

Strategical sword

[pine iron]

It's strategic sword 🤓

But yeah lmao

[molten citrus]

U should ge the new ones ,hp and attack boost

[pine iron]

Substat situational

Can you show it??

[molten citrus]

I call it strt for short

[barren roost]

i think once i get a good hengblade i will really get a good NMS too and then do that for pvp

[molten citrus]

nms is just for catch okay 👍🏽

[barren roost]

yeah otherwise it doesnt really make that much sense

[molten citrus]

Dont use nms untill u run out of heng balde

[barren roost]

my build is against it and the waves are all about damage

[pine iron]

If you have good ping you can use the combo too

[molten citrus]

Thats what i told him

[pine iron]

The Q1 > anim cancel >Q3 heavy attack 1 and a half > leaping toad

[molten citrus]

No ,wheres light attack

[pine iron]

Dual wield to Heng I guess??

Kek

[regal agate]

please TURN OFF STROLL mode on gamepad in arena. Its atrocity this option even exist and cant be turned off.

[solid comet]

idk their animation was noticeably faster than anything im used to and they were kinda disapearing in and out

[barren roost]

i saw an enemy once strolling towards me in arena to farm aura

[molten citrus]

No ,q1-cancel-light attack-q3-heavy1-heavy2/half,frog,canel upon second hit ,scroll down to hen not dual skill, dash skill to catch then special this is ture combo

[sharp flume]

is the gauntlet will released on late june?

[molten citrus]

If u directly switch from frog its not true

[molten citrus]

Mid

Before mid

[molten citrus]

very low ping using ghostly steps so they dont visible but its actually the easiest to catch

[molten citrus]

Lowkey i had injuries so i was strolling in arena the enemy be like bruh ehy ur walking

[pine iron]

I see. Maybe after frog leap to cancel upon hit, the. Scroll down to Heng then heavy Atk 3 times

Then free morph and light charge attack

[molten citrus]

second breeze as u do light charge

[pine iron]

Does it reach the 10 second threshold?

Maybe remove the light charge Atk then do the freemorph in full animation instead of cancelling it

[molten citrus]

Me no god 🥹 to calc ,pretty sure it does reach the threshold

[molten citrus]

This works

[pine iron]

Yeah then hit the execute. Don't forget to drink poet if you don't have one

[molten citrus]

since i hae been using heng blade i have forgetten to breathe on execution so that i can do the special skill

[pine iron]

I'm usually forgetting it sometimes don't worry

We forget it at the heat of the battle

[molten citrus]

Twin 🥺

[pine iron]

Sometimes it do be like that lmao.

[pine iron]

But if you have low ping, you can still hit it with this move,

Drunken poet then immediate cancel anim. Then Immediately do dragon breathe. It works usually when executing opponents and have no drunk buff

[molten citrus]

Thats like 20 ms for me dream 😴

[pine iron]

You have low ping no? You can try practicing it

[molten citrus]

50-70

[pine iron]

Drink Immediate deflect then dragon breath

50 ping manageable

[molten citrus]

It aint constant

[pine iron]

Try testing with your guildmates if it works

[molten citrus]

blurp my guiled wont let me bully them

They are too pro for mw

[regal agate]

please TURN OFF STROLL mode on gamepad in arena. Its atrocity this option even exist and cant be turned off.

[pine iron]

Just ask your guild mates to let it test lmao

[molten citrus]

Noooo…i am scared to ask them.after the testing theyll bully me

[exotic dagger]

It's not jus your ping. Enemy if paying attention and have ok ping will just dodge out of getting up animation

I always dodge if I see enemy parry after execute

Not saying it won't work but against people paying attention it won't work

[molten citrus]

some people just doge even if i breath just after execute

[exotic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/arab-idol-iconic-laugh-arab-idol-laughing-arab-idol-laughing-meme-gif-7127881842823608079

It's true combo though. Unless your ping really bad

[molten citrus]

the opponent has too good ping

[timid saddle]

Meanwhile some people execute me, take a drink and hit me with both hits of breath and continue to true combo before i wakeup

[molten citrus]

Lol , sometimes the breath hits like with drunken poet

[timid saddle]

Idk if it's a bug or lag, but sometimes wake up takes ages

[molten citrus]

Agrees

[exotic dagger]

If u don't hit dodge it takes longer to get up but u have tenacity when getting up

If u hit dodge, no tenacity

[timid saddle]

Ye, but i mean you cannot dodge or do anything

You just lay on ground for like 3 sec

[exotic dagger]

That prohbaly lag or something.

Sleep paralysis

[molten citrus]

How much is bp

[pine iron]

10 usd

very affordable. I sparingly only buy it when I fancy some good outfits

[timid saddle]

10 or 15

[molten citrus]

sigh i only got 5$

[timid saddle]

but the 15 was just extra xp i think

[molten citrus]

Gotta the next one ☝️

[pine iron]

Im waiting for the outfit that Rexlent wears

it looks beautiful

My combo for phalanx+heng

[molten citrus]

Next one

[pine iron]

YES THIS!

[meager canopy]

wouldn't they auto break after 10 sec

[molten citrus]

the vedio is taking long to load

[meager canopy]

oh wait nvm

[pine iron]

you have slow net

[molten citrus]

This is for real good ,if not against low ping player

[pine iron]

yeah, Theoretically, if the enemy doesnt have serene, this could work

I don't want to play 1v1 because I've reached the Mythic and I don't want to lose hairs

just chilling at group strategy

[high terrace]

guys who plays fighting games here

actual ones

[rotund grotto]

[molten citrus]

Lol

[high terrace]

but you could earn a PITTANCE of echo jades

[pine iron]

Playing tekken when I was a kid

tekken on arcade in malls

[high terrace]

tekken is buns now but i finally have a little hope

[pine iron]

tekken tag team were the days

[high terrace]

virtua fighter 6 looks amazing

[molten citrus]

Its sweaty cause there likely a high chance ull foget about phy blade

[high terrace]

series peaked at 5dr

[molten citrus]

This is mine i usally react to serene with poet

[high terrace]

vf6 gameplay got leaked but the quality is cheeks theyll show it on june 2nd i think

[fleet cobalt]

any high elo silkbind can hlep me what inner ways and mythic skill to use

[pine iron]

yeah, but it gives you a good chaining combo at the very least considering the only combo you have in Heng+phalanx is only catered to Heng

[molten citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-panda-gif-27369088

[pine iron]

Eng Dub ew but joking aside, have you tried it in pvp?

[molten citrus]

I always do that i do frog to time the waking up knock vauss the charge on heng exactly times with the person waking up

The charge of hen times perfectly

[pine iron]

I thought the Dual wield to Twinblades is not true combo

[pine iron]

you can bait it to def break skill

[molten citrus]

It is true combo

[molten citrus]

😈 thats when u see the enmy standing

[molten citrus]

I changed it cause i was doing a quest

[pine iron]

you changed it in eng dub? when doing a quest? why

[molten citrus]

Yea cause its weird hearing it chinese that time

Lmao this match was easy

[pine iron]

well we have our own taste. Eng dub is very bad to hear

[fleet cobalt]

any high elo silkbind can hlep me what inner ways and mythic skill to use

[pine iron]

gold innerway for umbrella, the star reacher, morale and either go for fury or evasive

mystic skill, DP, DB and Soaring spin. never forget serene breeze

meridian touch because of fan

talon strike

ghost step or golden body its up to you

[fathom star]

Being gone from pvp for like 3 weeks hit just the spot to make it fun again 🙂‍↕️

Mobrella is back 🫡

[quartz path]

Israeli build

[pine iron]

how is the MMR in Mythic right now?

does it still match you with 2k points players

[fleet cobalt]

do u know what is the combs

[next dew]

anyone wanna hit 3v3 with me? I only need 1 more EU sub mythic
hmu

[pine iron]

search at flashpanda and Winds for the Fanbrella combos

but lemme try and give a video

[fathom star]

Merica build

[pine iron]

Fan, meridian touch to uppercut then scroll to umbrella to stun

if you want to fully utilize the fanbrella all of your innerways must be at tier6

don't forget to harass too, like Def break to Q

or Meridian to Q

[fathom star]

A tip for your umbrella btw

You have the extreme drop vfx?

[pine iron]

try baiting the enemies too for serene breeze

like for example

[fathom star]

^ this

After doing the extreme drop

Your bloosom stun will be hidden

[pine iron]

or this

[molten citrus]

Why am I still alive 😭

[alpine mica]

What input do u press exactly for fan throw btw? very inconsistent for me

[molten citrus]

Dash attack

[alpine mica]

so like my dash is space so space then right click right?

yea idk y its inconsitent for me

[molten citrus]

Yes 🙂‍↕️

[molten citrus]

forgeting to dash or just going on with skill

[alpine mica]

prob a keyboard issue honestly

[molten citrus]

So it's like only on forward running

[alpine mica]

yea i just run forward and then do a normal fan atk

not a throw

[molten citrus]

Legit hard to understand unless shown is it the piu piu attack ?

[alpine mica]

yup a pew pew attack

[molten citrus]

That's on standing i belive

[alpine mica]

exactly

[molten citrus]

The condition is dash on run mode then normal click

Is that it?

[alpine mica]

yup

still wont work

[molten citrus]

Peace ✌️

[alpine mica]

ok i just figured it out

[alpine mica]

nvm ty

[molten citrus]

[alpine mica]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[alpine mica]

i think i was doing atk a bit ;ate

late*

[pine iron]

wdym you are having a hard time

I just hold sprint (shift) then go dash atk

can you send the video

of yours

[molten citrus]

Twin he figured out

[alpine mica]

i figured it out i wasnt holding it long enough

ty anyways hehe

[pine iron]

ah, noted noted. also, Try harassing the enemy too. always bait out the serene first

confuse them

[molten citrus]

Fanbrelal trolling

[pine iron]

it's one of the fanbrella main strength

[molten citrus]

Ngl the trolling lvl is increasing

[high terrace]

have these worthless apes done or said anything about fixing ping being tied to animations in cn

[pine iron]

well they turned the Nameless sword Q into true ombo

[molten citrus]

That's true

So basically a free frog!

[hasty sundial]

When

Did it come with the new optimisation

[molten citrus]

In cn

[willow seal]

If I may suggest weapon combo to tryout and one I'm having fun with or not (up to you) unfethhered ropedart hengdao has been fun.

I will have to spend another week or 2 trying out Mo-blade nameless spear

[solid comet]

hengdao just does crazy damage, its like rat rage but w/ out the build up

[hasty sundial]

And it’s getting buffed

[solid comet]

crack head devs

i swear some people jsut move way faster

[ember locust]

@mental spoke time to skip fan fist and go double fan

[mental spoke]

double fan is not as good

[ember locust]

[magic verge]

best combo is gfn

[sturdy delta]

i mean jus dodge the vc

[fast arch]

@lost sun meow姐不爱你了啊

[fathom star]

And mobrella

Hey what's everybody liking to use for custom skill damage reduction ?

[ember locust]

拿不到阿巴阿巴

[dawn sonnet]

Looks even more blockable then fanbrella

I like the style though

[alpine mica]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-new-card-gif-17052276078823995441

[midnight urchin]

bit unlucky with body but entirely useable

body just means you tank alot more hits. Not only are you increasing your max hp. but you are also increasing how much you heal with maxhp based healing: evasive, calmwater, heal on legs. heal umbrella q or special

[alpine mica]

i was playing on blue crit bruh this is more than enough for me

[midnight urchin]

ur just a bit unlucky cause now instead of doing a 120-0 oneshot you do a 118-0 oneshot

but overall aint bad

x

d

[spare drift]

how can someone in 1v1 arena mode, can be immune to fatal damage twice and get hp back. isnt it jsut once per match ?

[fathom star]

Stupid talent points

It's allows basically somebody back from dead twice

[bleak socket]

I thought it just buffed the single time

[bleak socket]

I wasnt aware you could do this. Maybe with an inner way to mimic one of them?

Heart of fire or trapped beast maybe?

[fathom star]

Like it makes runners even more annoying

[bleak socket]

Both have those kind of effects that act like a lesser revive

[fathom star]

It would add a shield bit that's about it

[bleak socket]

Trapped sure

But heart of fire?

Hmm but naa wouldnt explain the invincibility

[spare drift]

I also went back and read the talents tree and you can only benefits it once during the fight.

[bleak socket]

Yeah

It should be a stronger single time

[spare drift]

not aware of an inner way that would buff a seasonal talent

[bleak socket]

No those work in a way that mimics that

[fathom star]

Sec I'll show you

[spare drift]

the guys was at 13 WS and 100% win rater i was pretty connfident i could take him down, let my guard down at the 2nnd ko xD

[bleak socket]

When at low hp numbers, regain q bunch and get a shield or lower damage taken

Stuff that act like a revive. But arent actually

[fathom star]

Inexcusable sht

[urban ridge]

the more stuns someone uses the more skil they lack

[worldly portal]

😭😭😭

[urban ridge]

its true

cant do a combo? oh let me stun

[worldly portal]

U mean for nameless spear?

Fanbrella raw stun only hits ppl if they mess up

[urban ridge]

no

fanbrella too

if you are constantly relying on stuns to even get a kill and not using your fan you're bad

[rough dew]

What do y’all do when the wack ahh umbrella players hover and shoot you if you’re not running cloud steps/meridian?

[urban ridge]

dodge

[bleak socket]

Parry

[urban ridge]

like with stuns or what

[rough dew]

No like the hover machine gun thing

[spare drift]

deflect them

[rough dew]

Then they just aim to the side to make you waste stamina

[urban ridge]

a trash umbrella player for example loves to spam stun

[spare drift]

never really had issue with those tbh

[urban ridge]

id block them tbh

because they use that to knock you up if you parry

[rotund grotto]

Wym?

The hover thingy I just deflect and special

Cus it hits them

[urban ridge]

theres been time i parried the projectiles andf they were still able to kick me up

[ember locust]

hover machine gun just parry and dodge their knockups

[rotund grotto]

Tfw

What

I am bad at dodging knock ups

It feels delayed to me

Like I dodge too early cus I see em move

[ember locust]

if you spam parry you can parry the knockup too

[rotund grotto]

Dodge, get hit

[ember locust]

then just dodge the guard breaks

still need to dodge meridian tho

[rotund grotto]

You don't block those for free dc?

[ember locust]

just block once

[rotund grotto]

I feel dodging is riskier

[ember locust]

get dc then do the parries

[rotund grotto]

Omg

[worldly portal]

Wait what do u mean exactly by this tho, cause in order to combo we have to stun after knock up

[rotund grotto]

Yah

[ember locust]

bells cant dodge raw stun

[rotund grotto]

Wut

But bells hat 102

I am confus

[worldly portal]

No one should be getting hit by raw stun😭😭

[rotund grotto]

I get hit by raw stun

By misinput

[worldly portal]

Only time I catch ppl with raw stun is when I know they are gonna press a button

[rotund grotto]

[worldly portal]

Like if they try to shield with mo blade, poet spam, hendao special, etc

[rotund grotto]

Are I frames on Heng q getting buffed?

[ember locust]

when people spam poets too much i know they will have a buffered input 2 more poets and can land a stun

[urban ridge]

ok sure but theres fanbrella people who just run and run and run and stun and stun and stun

[worldly portal]

Yeah u have to mess up to get hit by it

[urban ridge]

they dont utilize their fan

[rotund grotto]

I try to hit them with my q

[worldly portal]

U shouldn’t get hit by raw stuns tho 💀

[rotund grotto]

Off by 1 ms

Dies

[worldly portal]

Lmao

[rotund grotto]

They q I q

[urban ridge]

with 42 ping?

lol ok

[ember locust]

if they are doing so many raw stuns their stun will be on 15s cd

coz no hit = no cd reduction

[worldly portal]

I was dodging it with 75 ping

42 ping is playable just not the best ofc