⚔️pvp-build-discussion

[short wasp]

Are heavies too slow

[rotund grotto]

Idk

I never really learned how to play the game

[short wasp]

RRR free morph is true

[rotund grotto]

Ye

But people dodge heavies

It also feels really risky

[tardy dagger]

Dont make it obvious when you throw it and its a useful skill

[rotund grotto]

I can throw it against tb q

[rotund grotto]

I use it on wakeup for tenacity

I catch serenes with it

I mean nameless q

[native coral]

Ye I don't
But it's still not that crazy

[rotund grotto]

It gives more flexibility

[native coral]

Tb q is faster than switching to mo blade and use it
They can also parry if needed

[tardy dagger]

I throw it to catch someone for a combo once it hit i get 3s tenacity even if they serene i can just tank it

[rotund grotto]

This

[tardy dagger]

But you cant stagger them with tb q anymore once its buffed

[rotund grotto]

Yah

[native coral]

Ye

It's finally not D tier skill

[tardy dagger]

Tb q against phalanx q with tenacity thats just insta catch

[rotund grotto]

What's the charge gona be like now

More dmg?

Or just same

[tardy dagger]

Idk i think theyre buffing it more for pve

[rotund grotto]

Ohhh

I heard that

Tang dao gets endless vc

[tardy dagger]

Dont even bother using heavy charge thats just free qi dmg for your opponent

[rotund grotto]

When qi breaks for charge

[native coral]

I think that's only pve

[rotund grotto]

Ye

[native coral]

That's stupid in pvp

[rotund grotto]

But it's good tho

For pve

[rotund grotto]

Imagine they accidentally spaghetti code it

[tardy dagger]

Phalanx rotation will still have more dmg than heng even after the buff

[rotund grotto]

Yah

I need to build a PvE set

[spiral breach]

light > r

[rotund grotto]

I just don't have the gear to do it

[spiral breach]

on heng

if u wanna catch using lights

but its a ping combo

[tardy dagger]

Use the varied combo once you parry an atk sometimes you can catch them using that

[elder swift]

i keep meeting this 1.7k fanbrella who is definitely not good enough to be there but they keep bluetooth stunning

[rotund grotto]

Can I catch with just heavy or is it too risky?

[tardy dagger]

Instead of throwing your gold press your light atk right away after the parry

[rotund grotto]

Does that have tenacity?

Idk the prio on that move

It's not listed on wwmpvp

[native coral]

never seen it got cancelled

but it doesnt cancel anything either?

[rotund grotto]

I have the 10 percent life steal thing on it

[tardy dagger]

It doesnt but its hard to react to

[rotund grotto]

It feels pretty good when it pops

[rotund grotto]

Ah k

[tardy plume]

it doesnt iirc

[tardy plume]

damn u cant be clipping my boy craze like that 😭

[rotund grotto]

I feel so noob

[tardy dagger]

We had some good fights i think i lost 3-4 games and won more that day

[tardy plume]

i like doing this to people holding their full dragon breath, i can get a free light varied combo and a heavy varied combo in

and they can't do anything about it

[rotund grotto]

Yah

[tardy dagger]

Gained 150 elo that day

[tardy plume]

cuz if they parry cancel they get hit by the heavy varied

[rotund grotto]

Stronk

[tardy plume]

and then if you parry the 2nd hit of flame breath

you have another one

[tardy plume]

i played 50 games last night and went from 1154 to 1152

[tardy plume]

u kill me all the time wdym

[rotund grotto]

i went down to 1100

from 1150

[spiral breach]

if u have low ping

[rotund grotto]

I feel like there is just much shi

[spiral breach]

catch with light into heavy

[rotund grotto]

I don't know

[spiral breach]

its faster

less risky

[rotund grotto]

okay i try

wait if they dodge my light

[spiral breach]

if u can react to your light hitting

u can r

[rotund grotto]

can i catch with q

[tardy plume]

the light varied combo people dont expect sometimes, i have caught people with it before

[spiral breach]

yeah idk in your server but most people rn react on the Q

best way to use Q rn is to use it like soaring spin

use the iframe to dodge something to catch them off guard

[tardy plume]

if you press R right when they dodge, you can cancel out of the light varied combo into it

and it will track

[rotund grotto]

wym

like

r and light varied right away to catch?

[tardy plume]

no

after parry you can do light varied combo

[rotund grotto]

ohhh get the buff

or

ohhh

[tardy plume]

if they dodge that, you can immediately hit R

to do the heavy varied combo

and it will cancel out the first one

and the heavy varied combo will track

[tardy dagger]

With heng you always wanna throw your attacks at the start of their dodge animation

Be it the gold or the follow up light atks

Since theyre stuck in that animation the only thing they can do is parry or block

[rotund grotto]

[tardy dagger]

Stop spamming skills since heng isnt that hard to read

[rotund grotto]

why am I getting caught ban fanbrella knock up when I dodge sometimes, just ping or bad timing?

[tardy dagger]

For example if they throw phalanx q you just have to count 3 parries then a dodge after

[tardy dagger]

Prolly timing

[rotund grotto]

it feeels like i can't react to anything

I have to hard read

[tardy dagger]

Even im having a hard time with fanbrella players

High elo fanbrella players are so hard to read

[rotund grotto]

i hate how

they can cancel talon

[tardy dagger]

Abuse tenacity just be aware of the stun

[rotund grotto]

how do you guys dodge tb q?

[short wasp]

Sideways

[rotund grotto]

like whats the timing

like late early?

[tardy dagger]

I just spam shift + mouse parry

I cant dodge it for some reason i still get clipped even after dodging sideways

[rotund grotto]

they rubber band back to me

its werid

[hoary vapor]

dragonbreath, drunken poet 😂
get ready for r twinblade can't be staggered

[fickle rune]

is art of spear damage boost any good?

[orchid leaf]

the one about the pvp patch

[urban ridge]

The one where he showed everyone how to exploit buddha palm?

[tardy plume]

he did one a while ago no?

[orchid leaf]

buddy there is no way youre saying that when that shouldve been patched

[urban ridge]

its not patched

lmao

[orchid leaf]

i didnt said it was patched

lacking brain cells?

😭 ✌️

[urban ridge]

?

when you're not clear there tends to be a misunderstanding

you said "that averse video"

very spesific lmao

[orchid leaf]

i provided more context below that, please use your brain

[orchid leaf]

^^^

[urban ridge]

hes done multiple of pvp patch videos

[orchid leaf]

its quite literally the most recent video. youre trying to deflect, its pretty pathetic. 😭 ✌️

[urban ridge]

deflect what LOL are you okay

its getting weird time to block

lmao

[orchid leaf]

really dont care buddy youre giving me a headache 🙏

please go read a book or two

[eternal tundra]

tf are yall arguing about

most mentally stable wwm pvper

[urban ridge]

this time i have no clue

this man decided to attack me for no reason

blocked him though

i literally said was it the pvp patch video about averse teaching about the buddha palm exploit and he flipped out

that was weird af ngl lmao

[tardy plume]

dead game

wrap it up

[urban ridge]

tried queuing for that too needed to turn on cross server 😭

[fiery isle]

Heng VFX make me hit harder cuz it adds style point damage to attacks

Hidden stat bonus 🤫

[urban ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dracarys-game-of-thrones-gif-18700349

me with my heng vfx

[fiery isle]

Dude I’ve been sitting on a core for like 2 months waiting for this moment

I haven’t even played in close to a week

[eternal tundra]

nice go get it 😄

[urban ridge]

the heng special is noise is so satisfying

[eternal tundra]

tink tink tink

[fiery isle]

I keep praying they drop a discount on the dragons breath VFX, I have 2 sound jades or whatever they’re called and all the mystic VFXs are 3

I have the drunken poet vfx and hengs I need the 3rd dragon for the trifecta

[urban ridge]

the yakutsa rush is crazy with the vfx

[fiery isle]

Oh what I haven’t seen it

I want the soaring spin one that makes all the lightning spawn around you, I wonder when we’ll get that

[eternal tundra]

rip visual clarity

[fiery isle]

Yea on naraka I had to disable certain characters effects cuz it would make frames drop, I’m worried I’ll have to do the same for mystic skills on here

[native coral]

Wait for the phoenix free morph

[gloomy kiln]

U reminded me of getting big fps drops and a stutter when a fanbrella user with vfx throws their stun 🤣

[jagged tangle]

is twinblade hengdao viable?

[eternal tundra]

viable yes meta no

[native coral]

Anything with twinkblade is viable

[jagged tangle]

twinkblade xD

[jagged tangle]

iv been doing pure stone strength but it just feels so bunz

everythinkg stuns you

[short wasp]

Top tier build thats a gear/skill issue

[jagged tangle]

def both for me

[short wasp]

Do you have t6 inner ways?

[jagged tangle]

not yet

[short wasp]

Thats half the dps gone

Play another build before then maybe

[short wasp]

Literally halved combo damage

Wait

Ok Im not sure if pure heng has more leeway with that

[open mirage]

It would be great if we could not we can’t do that

[jagged tangle]

is it fr top tier atm?

i been goin based off this

[short wasp]

Gauntlet doesnt exist yet

Stormbreaker hasnt gotten buffs yet

Nsword hasnt been buffed yet

[jagged tangle]

😮

[short wasp]

Its 19 on that list

Twinblade + nameless is so high because it's a counter to fist(?)

[jagged tangle]

so Heaven strat is still meta on global then?

[jagged tangle]

idk

[short wasp]

Heavenquaker is rare

Theres 7 fist entries there

[open mirage]

Nooo my build is still bottom of the list

[short wasp]

And like 5 nameless

[jagged tangle]

oh i meant umm

nameless spear

[short wasp]

Nspear hasnt been nerfed yet

It loses second serene, and has more whiff recovery

[jagged tangle]

i just want something that feels good

heng is most fun wepon but it feels so bad

[short wasp]

Heng feels bad for combos before t6

[jagged tangle]

ill try and get teir 6

[short wasp]

Because it literally cant combo without refreshing varied combo/sorrow

You just cut short

[jagged tangle]

I feel like ive akready spend so many resorces on other random stuff b4 i knew what was going on

[short wasp]

You can refund martial arts once per season

Also are you on 91 gear

[jagged tangle]

yea

[fiery isle]

I’m being spammed because I was “arrogant” in our pvp match. They’ve been typing non stop for over 30 minutes now 🤣

[short wasp]

You can also swap inner ways

But it costs 1000 jade per swap when you run out of free swaps

Your inner ways should be focused on just 4 if you dont have any t6es

Everything else gets recycled to buy notes of your main set

[jagged tangle]

all at T4

[jagged tangle]

yeah i wasnt doing this for a while

[short wasp]

Whats that 2nd one do

[jagged tangle]

this was sum i saw in pve and didnt change it

[short wasp]

lol

[jagged tangle]

i was running 5 fold bleed

[short wasp]

Ffb is better than this

This is REALLY bad for pvp

[jagged tangle]

it feels like it 😭

[short wasp]

What mystics are you using

[open mirage]

Nah man it lets you die faster when you get caught in a combo 😭

[jagged tangle]

pure tank builds i get hit 3 rtimes and im blue

[short wasp]

Dont get hit

Actually that simple

[jagged tangle]

yeah

[short wasp]

Uhhh

[jagged tangle]

its just so boorring

running around

[open mirage]

Expect to do full 5 min fight vs a good tank

[short wasp]

Do you get a free guard break when you tab at your t4

[short wasp]

Missing soaring spin

[distant pine]

How many placement matches we need to play to decide ranking in guild war?

[short wasp]

Meridian palm kinda meh

[jagged tangle]

i dont use it much these days

[jagged tangle]

ill get it

[short wasp]

Look at the t5 effect of soaring spin

Also

[open mirage]

Ditch flute for soaring spin

[short wasp]

How the hell are you reaching . , [ ]

[jagged tangle]

should i just learn cringe blade till T6?

[short wasp]

Twinblade?

[jagged tangle]

Q for gap closer

[jagged tangle]

yeah

[open mirage]

You mean league?

[distant pine]

Yeah

[short wasp]

If you wanna play the top tier fist when it comes out it has a similar playstyle Im told

[open mirage]

Idk, hopefully this is the last week

[short wasp]

What does this mean 😭

[open mirage]

Bottom tier forever

[jagged tangle]

i do wanna use fists

[short wasp]

I mean the keyboard keys

[open mirage]

I berieve

[short wasp]

. , [ ] is on the right side of the keyboard isnt it

[ember locust]

big hands

[jagged tangle]

Q is left of W

[ember locust]

[short wasp]

Your 2nd page mystic skills

[jagged tangle]

OH

mouse buttons

[short wasp]

Oh ok

Speaking of

Do you have a dedicated mouse parry button

[jagged tangle]

no?

[short wasp]

Makes parrying much easier when you alternate tap E + mouse

[jagged tangle]

ooohhh

[distant pine]

Yeah

[eternal tundra]

lol

[jagged tangle]

for things like nameless sword charged?

[short wasp]

If you see a flurry of attacks coming you dodge > mash tf out of parry

[eternal tundra]

E works fine for me 😄

[open mirage]

Crush them with bow

[short wasp]

No thats pretty slow and you can block/dodge/parry manually

[jagged tangle]

sometimes i cant block second

i think its just ping tho

[short wasp]

Like twinblade Q, rat light attacks, heavenquaker charge heavy

[short wasp]

Whats your ping

Some builds are unplayable on high ping

Combos just dont work

[jagged tangle]

29 ping

[short wasp]

Aolid

Solid

[jagged tangle]

but my OPs be moving werridly

like the second slash is always the one that seems a little off

maybe im j bad tho

[open mirage]

Practice I guess

[jagged tangle]

if i did run twin heng what brand of gear?

[open mirage]

I practiced until I could do it point blank

But be careful of talon fakes

[short wasp]

Everything that isnt strat is crit

Pure Nameless I think a mix

Pvp use calmwater set

I forgot the wepon set for crit, jadeware?

[meager canopy]

rainwhisper

[open mirage]

That’s what I use

[jagged tangle]

I have sword horizion at T4 also

is there a way to use those notes for frostclad?

i should have swaped b4 i leveld frost up to start

[open mirage]

I’m t4 frost clad, you’re basically just stuck on an inferior power level outside of the group PvP modes

[distant pine]

What’s the minimum tier for frost clad im at t5

[open mirage]

For actual usable build? T3, but honestly you want t6

[distant pine]

With 109 need like 90 for t6

[distant pine]

Okie

Was thinking of going nameless sword and heng blade

[native coral]

T6 or nothing

[distant pine]

Okie got it

[minor halo]

😂😂

[tardy plume]

for pvp you need t6, if you dont have t6 dont bother using hengdao

[distant pine]

Okie

[jagged tangle]

how long do these stay locked?

[violet crest]

Is snowparting charged light attack good

Or shud i not use it

Also what atks shud I use after snow burst

I usually use the two dodges and charged light attaxk-heavy attack or add in a free morph

[violet crest]

The burst right

It even staggers tanks and while ppl dragon breath i think

[thorn fox]

Idk how they can talk about balance when they literally messed up things

[open mirage]

Just parry it

[eternal tundra]

what did they talk about?

[thorn fox]

Once you got caught its hard to parry bro,even serene breeze doesnt interupt their atk

[open mirage]

Yup, I know. I hate that attack

It will miss if you walk sideways

[thorn fox]

You are staggered most of the time,maybe need less ping

[native coral]

you can unlock them yourselves

[jagged tangle]

what

[native coral]

https://tenor.com/view/mavuika-ishowspeed-speed-trying-not-to-laugh-natlan-gif-9812348700306106601

[jagged tangle]

IV BEEN STARING AT THEM

waiting

[eternal tundra]

I'm sorry for laughing so much

The menu in this game is not inuitative at all

[jagged tangle]

I knew to do that with armor but it just didnt register for these

[short wasp]

2 attacks

Varied combo (yellow flash) has tenacity
Q1 (curve to slash) has dodge frames at the start

If you want to stagger you need to press it when they're not doing yellow slash and not at the time they start Q

[violet crest]

What would u reccomend to follow up snow parting burst with

[short wasp]

Charged light?

QQ, varied combo, free morph

[violet crest]

It takes sm time to hit no?

[short wasp]

What is snowparting burst

The throw?

[violet crest]

I do use those but the charged light kinda has a delay where they run away

[violet crest]

The stagger hurricane thingi

[short wasp]

Theres only soaring spin guaranteed after

If you try to QQQ theres a gap

Eh

[violet crest]

I usually do qqq free morph

[short wasp]

Idk if you can scroll -> nsword Q/tb Q

[short wasp]

QQQ isnt real sadly

[violet crest]

Tang dao

[violet crest]

Real

The last q has time

I usually js do 2 q

And free morph

Or if I use charged light I use the last q later

[meager canopy]

q light q is guaranteed unless they're a ping demon

[short wasp]

After ~

[meager canopy]

that's the special skill right?

soaring, or mo q for follow up

[short wasp]

Oh wow that works?

[meager canopy]

ye

[short wasp]

Thats crazy do that @violet crest

[meager canopy]

it's weird sometimes with ping because soaring might not stagger

[short wasp]

Full combo pickup or just 1 hit?

[meager canopy]

but soaring is guaranteed if they get hit by the last hit of the special

[meager canopy]

you can pickup with heavy into morph if the soaring staggers properly

[short wasp]

I thought it was extra short

[meager canopy]

it's even better with mo q since if you have the attune, you can just tenacity through their serene

[meager canopy]

nah, you can pick up with it

[urban ridge]

okay question

how are you able to kick someone off the ground with free morph

like i was fully on the ground and saw someone kick me in the air with it

[meager canopy]

stormbreaker and tank mo special can do it

ping dependent

[urban ridge]

so basically an exploit

[tardy plume]

not an exploit

sb special into free morph is a combo

ping combo but its a combo

[meager canopy]

you know what's an exploit

these nspear monkeys

[native coral]

Sort of but U just need to be female

More consistent

[tardy plume]

yeah male free morph is ah

[meager canopy]

I know

[urban ridge]

okay well thats the first time ive seen that done

[meager canopy]

I have to delay my freaking input for morph

[urban ridge]

but i guess

[meager canopy]

future patches make it guaranteed I think

[violet crest]

Oh damn thanks

[tardy plume]

yeah lmao i have to wait a beat after heng Q2 or after yellow hit

[violet crest]

Yellow hit?

[tardy plume]

yep if we get the sb buff this patch, the special doesnt knock down anymore so you can chain into free morph better

[tardy plume]

hengdao yellow hit, snowparting or whatever its called

[urban ridge]

meaning its gonna be client based? 😄

[meager canopy]

this @urban ridge

[urban ridge]

oh i see

sorry will didnt see you say that

[tardy plume]

np

good luck trying to serene out of sb

after patch

full tenacity

[urban ridge]

I’m guessing thats what makes sb and heng meta

[tardy plume]

not really

paired with sb u dont wanna hold sb

u wanna hold hengdao more cuz more damage

[urban ridge]

Yeah

[tardy plume]

but the full tenacity on sb makes it extremely aggressive

[urban ridge]

Does sb giving you more armor?

[tardy plume]

and tons of catches

no it gives damage reduction

on the Q

[urban ridge]

Oh

[dawn sonnet]

Snowbreak Spring

Just call it yellow attack or unblockable

[slate siren]

Yo

@tardy plume

if I’m js playing heng blade

do I need throat piercing

[tardy plume]

heng and what

[slate siren]

heng nspear

[tardy plume]

if your damage is lacking then yeah

but i dont run it

[urban ridge]

soju dont do it

[meager canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-gif-23629448

[slate siren]

what if my max phys is 2.3k

but I got 80% crit

[tardy plume]

whats ur crit

you prob dont need it

[meager canopy]

you should do silkbind arsenal

[tardy plume]

run fury instead

[meager canopy]

if you're playing heng nspear

[slate siren]

wtf

😭

[meager canopy]

gotta equip ghost bind while you're at it

[tardy plume]

stream some heng nspear for me dawg

[meager canopy]

and goose mystic

[slate siren]

ai ai

hop in call

[tardy plume]

i need packing content

[meager canopy]

for being an absolute clown

[slate siren]

I created a vc

[tardy plume]

mfkr u left the server

LMOA

[slate siren]

no

[dawn sonnet]

You got back to mythic really quick @slate siren

[slate siren]

yessir

[dawn sonnet]

I might be afraid to queue 1v1 now haha

[flat falcon]

as if climbing with 5 ms native ping is a struggle 😭 🙏

[pine iron]

Ain't gonna return at 1v1 now. I prefer group strategy more

[normal moon]

Seeing people spam parry before death is too much 🤣

[pine iron]

spam parry even if it's a heng blade gold attack

lmao

[hexed venture]

Heng dao =premium dual blade. Once they hit you with a combo can go make a coffee or sum. Your life is over. Pure button smashing

[flat falcon]

twinblade drops on ping above 30. Heng dao not so much

[midnight urchin]

heng is annoying once it hits. hitting is the hardest part about it

[pine iron]

not really, since it's still inconsistent

when it comes to hitting

twin blades on the otherhand.

[midnight urchin]

twinblade brr. you dont have double parry bind? ahh you cant parry it unlucky

ur fighting top tier twinblades? did you know you can actually manually pilot twinblade q?

No? well now you know

so you cant dodge twinblade q

[hexed venture]

Chill monke

[midnight urchin]

? this is me being chill

i havent thrown a single slur in 6 months

[eternal tundra]

what

[hexed venture]

Cortisol very medium rn

[midnight urchin]

compare my way of speaking to an average league player

[eternal tundra]

oooh that makes sense

love u

[midnight urchin]

xd

❤️

[eternal tundra]

I was a draven main

[hexed venture]

Monke bring your cortisol down

[eternal tundra]

you know ts was cooked

[midnight urchin]

I was the thresh telling you to take the lantern

while you went in with phonk on surround sound

[hexed venture]

I am the morgana that stuns you

[midnight urchin]

[hexed venture]

[craggy tree]

After reached a certain elo. I don't feel the need to PVP anymore, I spend most of the time playing on my alt accounts

[pine iron]

it's better playing at group strategy with your guild mates

rather than 1v1

So the Enhanced R > dragon breathe > Enhanced light attack is considered true combo just requires tight timing i guess

still ping based kinda

[barren star]

now you know why no one in cn takes lb serious

[barren star]

timing is very forgiving

[pine iron]

im running a 80 ms here so it's tight in my experience

[pine iron]

can you try that enhanced R to switching in Mo blade Q to dual wield to Heng that should be true combo no?

I think 2 out of 3 testing it can be true combo but sometimes it doesn't so i guess it requires tight timing

[barren star]

yes but tab > R is fake

[pine iron]

i see. what if, enhanced R to switching in Mo blade Q to Freemorph then with right timing dual wield to Heng or just switch to heng and light charge attack

[lean bough]

I love h*ng dao

[turbid bison]

realize my heng aa has no stagger on npc pvp

[lean bough]

Buff it plz devs

[turbid bison]

no wonder i kept losing

[tender ledge]

Guys i saw lingering melodies as reward in arena challenge engagement reward thing ig
Is it one time reward or refresh every patch/period of its own

[turbid bison]

i love when their stagger got better priority than me

also why is heal build have infinite mystic cast

literally heal then fire, poet x3, execute, repeat 3 times in a row

[lean bough]

talon spam

ez

[barren star]

if you’re gonna free morph just scroll swap and charge light

[flat falcon]

equip fury t6 and vitality attunments and you can do it too

[short wasp]

Q gives vit

You could like

Not get hit by mystics

If they serene counter you burn yours immediately to avoid dragonbreath

[turbid bison]

no they dont use serene

it literally just repeat of that sequence

[craggy tree]

except that 1 guy

the 1111 guy

[turbid bison]

i dont even know how ppl can can dodge poet mid cast when i cant even spam dodge

[flat falcon]

single digit ping

[craggy tree]

poet 2 = ping combo

[flat falcon]

stop spreading this nonsense please. If you are not on single digit ping you can get stuck in any combo

i am in 30-40 ping range. If i get caught by poet i am not getting out

[craggy tree]

bro wtf

[barren star]

doesn’t make it any less of a fake combo

[flat falcon]

only on rare occassions when someone is on 60+ ping against me

[barren star]

this guy doesn’t say anything intelligible

[craggy tree]

It's a ping combo, if your ping is equal to your opponent, you can escape

I'm not spreading any nonsense

[turbid bison]

Another common bs I meet across season, heal build has better dodge and parry bs timing

[craggy tree]

healer = bad build

just delay your attack timing

and enjoy your +8

[turbid bison]

At that point I rather spam report

Can't have unlimited endurance and vit at the same time

[barren star]

they don’t

also they usually have vitality on parry

[open mirage]

Healer is the worst build in global and cn idk what cope is this

[craggy tree]

I don't remember the last time I lose against a healer

maybe 1 or 2 seasons ago

[open mirage]

You always beat me 🤣

[craggy tree]

healer is good in 3v3 5v5

but not 1v1

[turbid bison]

I lose to healer more than any other build

[craggy tree]

too used to that build

haha

[spiral breach]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yikes-69--k01KS7N7ASE1CQX5M0WAR4RFAB6

[craggy tree]

I want a 5k pearls money match

[spiral breach]

did u see

hahahahahaha

[craggy tree]

hahahahhaa

[spiral breach]

bro did not pay

wahahahaha

[open mirage]

Ooof

[barren star]

how are you losing to daimacusui

[open mirage]

He’s good and I’m bad

[barren star]

we’re talking about the guy yhat didnt get out got of the qualifiers right?

[craggy tree]

bad ping that day, I'm not in my mood

....

[exotic dagger]

It's fun to have healer in strategy. U know that the first two matches the healers won't participate for sure

So if it goes to tie breaker everybody gets some popcorn and drinks and watch some healer v healer pvp for 5minutes

[barren star]

look at him placing excuses

[craggy tree]

wdym broAUSfiejashbdgjsdhnighedbseouaazdghnbiusrzddhgodishgfiujkhsnodklfjmpslds

elskdjgiodjxroifhgjndjkfxccjnfoiasjmoihsdjnlgkjmdf

I hate youuuu

I'm gonna tell my mom about this

expect an expel from school you 14 years old

[sterile osprey]

why does this pdf file spear have stun

bro

remove it

you are genuonely worse than epstein palying spear stun

[exotic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[spiral breach]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dio-jojo-11--k01KS7P8912PE329QSBB6CNXTR0

[pine iron]

No one seems to be playing Group strategies today huh

[exotic dagger]

people are climbing that?

i only play 1 a day for the 2k xp

not that i really need it since probably already have enough xp to cap the whole tree by now

[pine iron]

it's more fun playing it compared to 1v1 ngl

[solid comet]

Ideas to buff nspear: Give the thrust attack legion crusher automatically and give the user tenacity while using it

[exotic dagger]

it should be buffed with legion crusher, expend all the users qi and half of max hp to do one legion crusher. probably good

[solid comet]

Another idea: Instead of stun it lowers your animation speed by half for the next 30 seconds

[exotic dagger]

after using stun, cant dodge, sprint, parry, jump, block for 15seconds

[solid comet]

I mean it is called legion crusher, not daisy crusher after all

[exotic dagger]

by that logic

[solid comet]

I think light attack shoudl be removed from twinblade, just have them toggle sonic mode on or off, where they fly around in a ball of lightning non stop with tenacity

[exotic dagger]

tank light charge 3rd slash is called vitality slash

so it should deplete target vitality?

heavy is mountain shaker iirc

[barren star]

someone here can’t dodge a stun

[exotic dagger]

so every time used it should shake the view of all oppoennt nearby?

[solid comet]

That would be an interesting mechanic

Or force them into first person while it happens

Fanbrellas would be a nightmare after that with the teleporting

though fr i dont mind nspear tooo much but damn

i think hengdao is worse

[exotic dagger]

force them into 3rd person. they counter by using bow and snipe all headashot

damn

[solid comet]

i wish bow was a little bit better in this game

is there a way to toggle the auto aim off? it actually makes me miss lol

wher eit tries to circle in on your target

anyone who actually walks it misses

[exotic dagger]

i heard recently bow is bug

idk since i don really use it

[fallen vault]

What happens if i use two different paths?

[solid comet]

in christianity thats called being double minded.. ur not gonna do well

[dawn sonnet]

Any more affinity weapons in the future?

[solid comet]

I got an idea for phalanx blade, instead of the charge attack being like moblade it should be like rope and u just twirl your blade around so u have tenacity

[dawn sonnet]

Want to try out new stuff but don't want to gut my current gear set

[exotic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-crowley-david-tennant-good-omens-psychic-gif-3436909361193405344

see anything yet?

[regal kayak]

There are some off path combos that are good, but doing two full paths that you swap between generally requires too many inner way notes

[solid comet]

does umbrella stun land on someone who gets kicked up from free morph?

im thinking of some kinda hengdao umbrella build

[fallen vault]

Which approach is better? Because i use hengdao currently at grandmaster and struggljng with people use hengdao with different 2nd weapons. But some say i should stick with mo blade 😵‍💫 so confused

[dawn sonnet]

Well, I don't think it's the gauntlets

[fair elk]

what are the leaks

[hollow slate]

what is the trick to avoiding umbrella bluetooth stun? someone once told me here

[solid comet]

lmao

[dawn sonnet]

Dodging towards is the most consistent for me

[hollow slate]

should i delay my dodge timing further or dodge sooner?

[regal kayak]

Im not a heng dao player but my understanding is that for pvp people generally regard hengdao/stormbreaker or hengdao/nameless spear as better than heng dao/phalanxbane. I dont have the right knowledge about appropriate inner ways for those builds, but would be worth looking at.

[hollow slate]

dodging normal stuns are not a problem, i do this as well

[solid comet]

stormbreaker is good for hengdao yeah

that random aoe stagger is annoying af

ooo stormbreaker + umbrella

[fallen vault]

I'm curious what weapon do you use and why?

[regal kayak]

Im a panfan/soulshade umbrella main. Im the kind of guy that just gravitates to healers. Since its pretty nerfed in 1v1 my build is pretty gvg focused right now.

[exotic dagger]

Nothing else are affinity in cn rn. For further in future u have to check crystal ball

[solid comet]

yes.... u can stun after freemorph... new ideas suddenly come to mind

[dawn sonnet]

Sad

[dawn sonnet]

Yeah it should work considering it already works with fan uppercut

[fallen vault]

Hard to win with healers then always breath of dragon!! 😤

[short wasp]

Delay if laggy

[pine iron]

isn't there already a legion crusher arena attunement that stuns the opponent when it hit a enemy with tenacity or blocking?

[short wasp]

Parry

[exotic dagger]

Stun after freemorph last hit is a pretty common combo for nameless

[solid comet]

well on testing dummy i can take full hp bar without using all my stuns with it

[pine iron]

Healers has the increased damage in mystic skills

[solid comet]

then if i can knock them up again i can finish off their second hp bar

[exotic dagger]

Only under tenacity. Not blocking

[fallen vault]

I'm bad at dodging or parrying 😵‍💫

So i just fight head on

[pine iron]

yeah that. can be good against tanks too maybe

[short wasp]

You run in and parry

[pine iron]

you kinda need to parry to get the Vitality

[short wasp]

On reaction to db

[pine iron]

then harass with dragons breathe lmao

[short wasp]

Oh AS healer?

[pine iron]

dragon breathe or Leaping toad

[exotic dagger]

Yea. But honestly, I don't think tank need any special thing to beat

[fallen vault]

If parry golden button shows up right?

[pine iron]

Oh boy the moment the Leaping toad gold attack arrives in global, it's going to be pain

[regal kayak]

Yeah you definitely want to either dodge out of dragonbreath or deflect it. Being able to do that will help you a lot.

[fallen vault]

I'll practice that. Thank you guys. Any recommended mystic skills i should fo us on?

[pine iron]

DB, DP, leaping toad, Golden body and ghost step

your main purpose as a battle healer is to annoy to opponents

[solid comet]

jsut tenacity

[pine iron]

hit and run

[regal kayak]

Theyre heng dao. Just talking about fighting against healers.

[pine iron]

ohhhh

[fallen vault]

What is db and bp? I use hengdaooo la

[pine iron]

dragon breathe and Drunken poet

[pine iron]

hengdao and phalanx?

[fallen vault]

Yesyesss

[solid comet]

anyone else get tired of this guy aura farming, he always takes a beating and just stand there like nothing happened

[pine iron]

I can't explain properly, but I can tell several disadvantage of the Phalanx and Hengblade in PvP

aside from these two having ridiculous damage

[pine iron]

try practicing it in the dummy too!

hmmm.

[regal kayak]

I mean the skill to get to max tier first is serene breeze, but you may have done that already

[solid comet]

does the first hit of frog not apply poison?

[regal kayak]

Yeah its 2nd hit

[exotic dagger]

Only the pounce

[solid comet]

is it 4 seconds or 5 seconds between t he poison tics

im trying to count it out in my head

seems to be 5

[pine iron]

very hard to make some combos out of this build oof

[dawn sonnet]

Might just be that pairing with n.spear offers a lot more

[solid comet]

okay i think i can time all my attacks on the poison tics pretty easy

[pine iron]

yeah, any Martial arts like HQ, Nspear or twinblades offers more synergy in pvp for heng

[solid comet]

now to figure out where to put frog inbetween my umbrella stuns so i can just get them back into combo when they get out

[fallen vault]

Thank you @regal kayak & @pine iron 🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

[regal kayak]

Good luck out there

[exotic dagger]

They shouldn't be getting out

[solid comet]

i mean after the 10 seconds

[fallen vault]

Which weapon you use emiya

[pine iron]

practice in dummy, spar with your guildmate and make a framework out of your pvp build kek. you can watch some tips too

for some reason, the Heng Enhanced R > DB > enhanced light attack becomes not a true combo when its buffed by phalanx blade

[exotic dagger]

U mean recatch them in the same combo after 10s? That's not really a thing

[pine iron]

or maybe it requires tight timing

[solid comet]

well the stuns will be down but i should be able to knock them up again and get off few hits

[fallen vault]

I'll do that! Can't wait to practice combos

[pine iron]

this seasons heng in pvp is still not yet been patched so maybe in the imperial palace release it will be

[solid comet]

i guess unless they parry or dodge the poison

[exotic dagger]

After 10s u just have to catch them again. U can't continue your initial combo they'll already break out of it

Can't parry poison burst but can dodge or tenacity

U mean as the poison explode u catch them? That kinda don't work in higher elo...

[solid comet]

maybe not, i dodge poisons too

but im not in higher elo rn

[pine iron]

man

[fallen vault]

What main weapon do you guys use?

[solid comet]

i notice a lot of people serene when i knock them up, is the play to teleport back and follow up with a stun asap?

[pine iron]

Dual spear because im at 80ms, but now im running HQ and heng blade

but for now Im running phalanx and heng

never run twinblades, at high ping

tried it pairing with my Heng the twinblades at 80 ms and i look like a sitting duck

[solid comet]

i use fanbrella for the last week, i did vern/nspear, nameless/nameless, i did hengdao/phalanx, moblade/fan, fan/nspear, fan/hengdao

[exotic dagger]

If u can. But usually serene is a reverse catch if u didn't dodge it

[solid comet]

i c i kinda didnt know u could teleport while in the air lols well the more i know

[fallen vault]

But you need to pay la? When changing that when i lost all my echo jades

[solid comet]

yeah im always broke on jades

[fallen vault]

https://tenor.com/view/broken-gif-6388644118859385620

[solid comet]

but u get some freebies

or u can play 3s and not worry about it

at end of day its just for fun

[fallen vault]

I should start enjoying it and not overthinking stuff then

Thanks again guys!

[solid comet]

ya dont compare ur self to these nerds, they watch youtube videos all day and practice for hours

just take ur time and do it ur way

though try diff ways of engaging people, u wont know what works if u never change ur strats

[minor halo]

Some people still think a 2 digit ping is bad lol?

[minor halo]

Heyyy yeoona! 😹

[solid comet]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-bite-orange-cat-orange-cat-attack-gif-10142361798712867466

[pine iron]

i'm at the twilight zone of of ms

[short wasp]

What do you mean

20ms is very different from 60ms

[timber plaza]

worst pvp ever

[solid comet]

😩

well i went from losing 95% of games in mythic elo to losing half of them

its a step up

[timber plaza]

you play pvp its a step down

no matter

what

[solid comet]

fr i could be watching caseoh instead im torturing myself

[timber plaza]

I didn’t play PvP for month

Played 20 matches

It’s still unplayable garbage

[solid comet]

yeah i took a month break too, came back a week ago

before that i took a month break

i just play for a little, get my fix then get annoyed and quit again

[timber plaza]

Why did you quit pvp

Month ago?)

Exactly

At least now 1000-1400 bracket belongs to beer holders

[solid comet]

honestly its even worse now

all my qi is gone in one db

they just spam execute

and some people speed hack, or just put in a multiplyer to give them just a little bit of an edge so no one notices

but when ev erything staggers u in this game thats all u need to win

[timber plaza]

@solid comet every second user already on gfn cheat

[solid comet]

it wouldnt be so bad but every game is nameless/nameless it feels like

8th game in row all nameless/nameless loll im tired of it

AGAIN PLAY SOMETRHING ELSE

EVERY GAME IS THE SAME BUILD

[spiral breach]

if we get the buff on the 28th

you gonna see more

[solid comet]

THANKS

I WANTED TO SEE ANOTHER ONE

[manic nexus]

There’s some viet player going around saying pple using hack and ban soon

Lame

[spiral breach]

hey man if you got called a hacker and you're not hacking

[rotund grotto]

Lol

[spiral breach]

thats a compliment

thats gonna give me a good night sleep

[solid comet]

im happy to see u too

yippe more nameless

break time from that stuff

[sturdy delta]

😭

[pliant copper]

for bamboocut which set is better - swalowcall or rainwhisper ?

[craggy tree]

Which bamboocut?

Wind or dust?

[zinc coral]

😂😂😂

I swear this game matches you against your weakness

[pliant copper]

wind

[supple badger]

ive been called gay bcs of using fanbrella

[pliant copper]

healing or dmging ?

[supple badger]

dmging

he cant take anymore umb q, so desperate lol

[pliant copper]

crypto-geys themselves then

[rough dew]

Is it just me or is light and shadow actually just better than morale chant?

[sturdy delta]

gives you extra durability so

preference

[rough dew]

No I mean specifically more damage

Hmm I’m just going off of training dummy testing, but yeah maybe over the course of a whole fight morale does more. But L&S does buff phys attack and phys pen (breakthrough upgrades). Probably just situational but the fact I’m getting higher or comparable dmg numbers, plus it adds durability makes me think it’s worth swapping

[sturdy delta]

also morale gives more dmg when controlled

10% in ideal

not acounting for pen

[rough dew]

Yeah but doesn’t that only refer to stuns?

[sturdy delta]

im not sure acc

i thought it was stagger

but maybe not

[sturdy delta]

its still half the pen that u get from morale

i think

i do also prefer light and shadow over morale but morale does do more dmg

[rough dew]

Yeah that’d make a big difference if it was stagger too. I was running breaking point and morale mostly for the penetration and extra 4.6 direct crit, but in training the extra crit seems to make no difference. And I’m already running phys pen on my sword and disc

[sturdy delta]

i wouldnt run breakingpoint for pvp ngl

[rough dew]

It’s just so much dmg and I dodge a lot. Plus heng does so much qi dmg that they’re usually exhausted for most of my combo

And I’m running dust rope which buffs qi dmg

With max breaking point buff, heng and rope breakthrough bonuses, that’s +73% crit dmg

[frigid dawn]

quick question - are arena attunes enabled in the new group strategy thing?

[rough dew]

Yes

[frigid dawn]

thanks

[rough dew]

Has anyone noticed that Heng’s fleeting trace skill says it consumes 2 bars of blade momentum but actually… doesn’t? Also there’s no description for snowbreak spring, and it does consume a bar of blade momentum…

[pliant copper]

for bamboocut wind which set is better - swalowcall or rainwhisper ?

[rough dew]

Swallowcall

[frigid dawn]

huh, it does require 2 bars of momentum to cast, but consumes like 5-10% of one bar

snowbreak spring description is in the inner art

[pliant copper]

ty

[rough dew]

Right?? Here I am trying to conserve blade momentum for the crit dmg buff but it seems impossible to actually get it below 2 bars

[rough dew]

Yeah I did notice that

[frigid dawn]

also, if you cast mo summon buff right as you restore momentum to full - it doesn't consume any of it

and i'm pretty sure i haven't seen this mentioned anywhere

[pine iron]

Stopped playing 1v1 since I already reached the mythic already. I'm just on it for the rewards.

I'm more having fun playing PvP in group strategy with my guildmates in open mic kek

[lucid elm]

That’s why I stopped playing 1v1

I even found some tech to help fight stuns and I still don’t feel like doing it even though I have an answer for it now lol

[solid comet]

I musta did like 20 games and i have to say fighting nameless/nameless is tough as fanbrella lol.

i might see if they all went to bed or something now

maybe il lbe lucky and see some hengdao and get 100-0 in one combo

[lucid elm]

Id rather fight an army of fan umbrella than nameless spears lmao - and facts it’s one or the other right lmao

Still my bane is that spear - i totes get it though

[dry trench]

Anyone play hybrids?

[sturdy delta]

like mixing paths?

[dry trench]

Yes

[pine iron]

It's usually common in pvp

So yeah

Most used hybrid in global right now is Nameless spear + strat sword

Or nameless sword + twin blades

[sturdy delta]

i liked running heng + fan for a few weeks

[dry trench]

honestly can get away with anything in pve

[pine iron]

I'm running Heng+HQ since it's not ping reliant sometimes

[dry trench]

[pine iron]

Hybrid in Pve like raid HR ST is a big no no. For me

But this is a PvP thread not PvE so...

[sturdy delta]

if u want to do 0 dmg sure

[pine iron]

How ping reliant is this

[dry trench]

now thats just exaggerating

[sturdy delta]

not sure i play on 20-30ms and was doing ok

u could probably get lucky with having higher ping uppercuts

[pine iron]

What's your innerways??

[sturdy delta]

1sec lemme show build iu was using after this match

[pine iron]

My hq+Heng is so wet noodle in dealing damage that I just swap HQ with phalanx

Even if I am disadvantaged ofcourse

[sturdy delta]

i meann hq isnt really ever gnna be the big dmg part

[pine iron]

I only did the HQ because of the combo capability and tenacity it gives (because other than that most martial arts weapon are ping reliant)

Maybe storm breaker when time comes

[sturdy delta]

this is s tier if u use heng fan

or tbh just fan in general

[pine iron]

Not evasive?

[sturdy delta]

i didnt really see the need for it much with that combo

because you're usually either using fan to engage or heng tenacity

or poet/mystics

[pine iron]

You got some serious engage with Heng and fan

[sturdy delta]

yehhh

and the ability to throw out talons

makes vs tanks sm easier

[pine iron]

Talon to q is a good thing too

The dash attack of fan is good too

[sturdy delta]

it took me a bit to get used to not doing pursuit attack and just scroll switching to heng after knockup tho

[pine iron]

The knock up to (with proper timing) use dual wield to Heng is considered true combo

Encountered some experienced fanbrella, usually they don't do the Knock up to umbrella stun, they gonna poke you first with dragon breathe

[sturdy delta]

idk tab swap rarely seemed to connect as true combo in my experience

it was much more reliable to just charge light while they knocked up

[pine iron]

If you are too fast, it will be false combo, the indication on when to dual wield when the opponent is knocked up is when the enemy is close to ground...

But honestly, just scrolling/ swapping to Heng and light charge Is more safe

[sturdy delta]

same damage too

id just pick easier one

or tbh charge up might do more dmg

top 150 mythic title being easier to get than mythic 1500 points seems kinda crazy 😭

[lucid elm]

Nice brother

[sturdy delta]

im not top 150 just saying

seems backwards

[pine iron]

The mythic MMR Is always wonky

You match with same rank then suddenly you get and face a top 1

[flint pollen]

ye

[pine iron]

Like last time I faced tax collector in EU back then lmao

[sturdy delta]

they fixed that now tho

at most i get 200-250 difference now

[solid comet]

the only real pvp is in the sandstorm

[open mirage]

i only managed to hit top 300, 1500 is impossible for me imo

and i deranked out of it promptly 😄

[bold aspen]

Can someone teach me how to fight these healers in arena?

They don't come close and just spam light attack from far

[lucid elm]

I was in top 300 for 2/3 weeks but I can’t grind that shhhh regularly I dint have the time to hold it sadly

[bold aspen]

And skills when they feel safe

[bold aspen]

U mean near that bar?

[regal kayak]

There's no real reason for a healer to initiate on you. What are you playing?

[solid comet]

its busy rn kinda fun

[bold aspen]

Strat

[bold aspen]

Yeah I have tried
Have the limit for those points increased or is it still 300?

[solid comet]

idk but im kinda goofing in it stopped trying because idk what these guys elo is at

[bold aspen]

Those coins or whatever we get by fighting and other things

[bold aspen]

Whenever I try it my game lags a lot

[regal kayak]

Pressure them hard so they dont have time to heal. Deflect frog, firebreath and light attack. If you are strat nameless spear make good use of your stun.

[bold aspen]

I just have up on pvp there

[regal kayak]

Healers win when you let them heal.

[lucid elm]

Arrows , shoot em with fire arrows and tic damage off on them till they feel like fighting then beat them up, let them heal , and do it al over again till time runs out and win off damage

[exotic dagger]

If u parry their fire breath they don't have any damage for the next 5s

[bold aspen]

I use full bellstrike
They just run whenever get close

[bold aspen]

Also they attack with arrows too and idk if it's possible or not but I was not able to block them

[solid comet]

someone pulled out a goose

[exotic dagger]

You're playing strat. Your kit has so many catches. Why u complaining? Wanna try playing a tank chasing healers?

[bold aspen]

My ping is around 85 so it's not good enough to aim and hit them each time
I tried but missed most of the arrows

[bold aspen]

I m not good that's y I m here looking for some tips.....

[lucid elm]

My ping is like 38 , I can get a few shots in , I’ll miss some that’s normal sadly but some arrow damage is better than no arrow damage

[open mirage]

Parry the easiest attack in the game to parry and execute them

[exotic dagger]

Well use your catches on them if they parry then next cd over interrupt your catch halfway with a talon

[open mirage]

Healer is a melee class, not a ranged

[regal kayak]

For runners it can be good to use a mystic to close, like talon or yaksha.

[solid comet]

im just spamming parry on them no one is using talon or anything

[exotic dagger]

Healers can't heavily punish talon spam

[open mirage]

Yeah we can’t! I hate it

[bold aspen]

They just run (atleast the one I fought did)

[open mirage]

Talon miss? Sorry all I got is a frog

[minor halo]

I'm backkkkk chattttt

[bold aspen]

They stopped attacking blindly once I parried some basic attack

[faint falcon]

i hate runner🥲

[minor halo]

Mesmerize my presence

[bold aspen]

Unfortunately I use yaksha

[exotic dagger]

Then secure a damage lead and let em run. They'll have to run back to u eventually if you're ahead in damage

[open mirage]

Yeah then they’ll have to move in and fight you, if they stay far away, they don’t have anything to damage you with

[minor halo]

They're fun

[exotic dagger]

Same thing tho

[minor halo]

Let them run, they'll always come back

[solid comet]

think its better to not try hard the sandstorm arena since u will have people not used to pvp in it

[bold aspen]

It's slow so people with good ping just dodge it...

[minor halo]

Haven't seen, haven't tried

[rough dew]

You should try dust rope. Same effect + crit dmg + qi dmg

[bold aspen]

Can u guys just tell me the best way to go near them with strat or skills?

The guy I fought won't let me come near

[minor halo]

Dash or ghostly

[bold aspen]

Would dash around the corners

[exotic dagger]

It's slower than talon but tbh it doesn't really make a difference if u aren't high mythic

[bold aspen]

I m legend 2

[faint falcon]

I use cloud Step and then cancel halfway through

[bold aspen]

They dash away....

[exotic dagger]

Yea legend it still land most of the time

[open mirage]

I never let it land anymore, it’s free parry

[faint falcon]

It's fine — I was just trying to get closer

[bold aspen]

Also sometimes my character just stand on top of opponent's head when I do cloud steam. Y is that?

[exotic dagger]

Besides even if u miss yaksha what the healer gonna do? Hit u with one fire breath tick?

[minor halo]

I never use it anymore

It doesn't do much

[open mirage]

Yup, that’s what we do

[molten citrus]

Guys guys i found a glitch to use poison in arena

[solid comet]

thats 100% of ur qi gone buster

[exotic dagger]

One breath? I think need two hits

[minor halo]

Drunken fire blast is worse 😂

[open mirage]

Better than 100% of your life gone from Heng Dao combo

[exotic dagger]

Yea healer need like one fire two poet to deplete qi no?

[molten citrus]

the real ?

[minor halo]

Parry bro...just parry

[open mirage]

I’m talking about if I miss the talon

There is no parry after that

[bold aspen]

Rn I hate healers the most and twin blade is a close 2nd
Both r so annoying

[faint falcon]

Facing the rats and the dust umbrella, I have to start by flying right onto their faces

[solid comet]

im happy as long as i dont see nameless

hengdao still 100-0 me almost instantly but thats fine

[open mirage]

The good news is healers are very rare, the bad news is tbrd rats is very strong

[regal kayak]

Nameless is my fave to fight. Easiest deflect pattern imo

[molten citrus]

Its the opponeyts hitbox

[bold aspen]

Tbh I feel like nameless is pretty easy to counter unless the player is too good

[bold aspen]

What?

[molten citrus]

The game somehow registers as its a object so tahts why u stand on top it

[bold aspen]

Oh

[minor halo]

The thing bout twin is stagger lock, if they can't do that, it's free will

[bold aspen]

Yeah

[molten citrus]

what? Ur crazy

[exotic dagger]

As tank nameless counters me so hard. I'd rather fight fanbrellas

[minor halo]

Fanbrella is worse for tanks 😂

[bold aspen]

I fought 3 healers in like 1 hr..... Not that rare

[molten citrus]

I think so to

[molten citrus]

Ur rank?

[exotic dagger]

Well both are bad but I have lower win rate vs nameless

[bold aspen]

Idk I just parry their waves
Most of them that fight me just spam wave once>>cloud step>>wave again
Easy parry