💬gacha-and-fashion-talk

[opal scroll]

[gentle oasis]

have they ever released any official statement after the barely any meaningful "compensation"?

[vast dew]

then spend in the shop skins for now or the skins you really like, and if u don't have bp or monthly yet then you can do that too

[chrome wharf]

No, and we will probably never hear from them again

[willow epoch]

he alr talked abt it, he did say the price was absurd

[gentle oasis]

I mean we did riot on the weekend, they'll prolly do or say something in monday or tuesday.. but we'll see, people need to become louder tho instead of cooling down for it to happen

[chrome wharf]

Tbh if they just didnt scam us on that skin we would be partying in scy’s ship now

[median tiger]

Are there any limited time/ecent quests going on rn?

[vast dew]

none that we know

[granite dove]

oh yeah i forgot about the bp, i should get that. rn there arent many good choices for skins so i am looking forward to new ones though. im stuck between like 4 different skin choices rn

[buoyant remnant]

Me when I look at my gacha results

[chrome wharf]

Someone sent here the price of 12k pearls for cn and its around 160usd btw

[fossil bronze]

you mean you werent expecting 40 fireworks?

[chrome wharf]

Wrong, i was expecting healing potion

[buoyant remnant]

Unlike you guys, all i wanted were fireworks

[willow epoch]

lumina guide - qinghe 46 days, kaifeng is 74 days, this is pretty much it

[severe harness]

#💬gacha-and-fashion-talk messageDemand Fairness for Global Players

[gentle oasis]

imagine spending 200 USD for this kind of thing... couldn't be me

[buoyant remnant]

I know you, you’re the chinese email guy

[sudden locust]

Nice message hope the folks took this one back too

[chrome wharf]

I mean i would before for the skins you can buy directly on shop, but because of their bs im hesitating

[vast dew]

@granite dove yeah skins rn is so dry, so to motivate you from waiting I'm gonna drop you upcoming skins

(Take note, only the one with gold tattoo is gacha which is 1 orb equivalent of spending)

[fossil bronze]

bro the new fist technique is so cool. too bad we have to wait another year for it to come global 😭

[opal scroll]

cant wait for this one

[chrome wharf]

Is this gacha?

[gentle oasis]

I did bought the skin.. but now that I know i am scammed.. I don't want to spend anything until they do something about it

[buoyant remnant]

Cant wait for it to come as a bundle with a cat mount that costs 2 houses

[molten crater]

#6 bro awwooga

[opal scroll]

i actually dont know lol but i guess yes, cause of the effects and stuff

[severe harness]

Glad you liked it!
Please share it with your friends playing Where Winds Meet so more people know,
and maybe send it to some streamers who have influence.
I’m from Taiwan, so I don’t know exactly who’s the most influential myself.

[vast dew]

I honestly forgot if it's shop skin or sect skin or bp skin. But it's not gacha

[frozen nimbus]

it is

[chrome wharf]

Oh

[sudden locust]

Nata the next whale confirmed, lets get you to Inuyasha

[granite dove]

i really like the one right before the one with the gold tattoo, i love flowy outfits

[vast dew]

that's exploration skin, it's free

[wanton lily]

If Nata become new whale can I become pet? I don't cost must just one costume a month ( owo)

[gentle oasis]

this skin will be the downfall of my savings

[sudden locust]

https://tenor.com/view/boat-im-on-a-boat-the-lonely-island-lonely-island-andy-samburg-gif-5232669

[buoyant remnant]

Looking for sugarmom, must be willing to buy me boats

[twin gulch]

Thought they would fix the high ping issue.

[opal scroll]

its really pretty i saw people showing these on youtube

[willow epoch]

my favorite taiwanese

[proper cosmos]

the male one is great too

[granite dove]

someone help me debate between 3 skins, i cant send images in this channel so i gotta dm you🙏

[gentle oasis]

actually.. I have a confession guys.. im secretly a CEO and I am rich AF , as you can see.. the amount of my owned lingering melody

[buoyant remnant]

Whatever makes you feel rich (jokes aside, feel free)

[turbid drift]

Watch as I transform into a femboy for boat rides show me where that second mortgage on your house gone daddy.

[vast dew]

Hey, you. You’re finally awake. You were trying to cross the border, right? Walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us, and that thief over there.

[willow epoch]

is there a male ver pic out, this game lacks cool male skins

[proper cosmos]

yes lol

[proper cosmos]

no i think theres a fox one? wait

[willow epoch]

DAMN YOU STORMCLOACKS, skyrim was fine till u came along, the empire was nice and lazy , if they havent been looking for you, i couldve stolen that horse and been halfway to hammerfell.

[gentle oasis]

don't remind me of skyrim bro... I get sad about it

I have installed the game and spent 3 months modding the game.. I have like 357-400 mods, and I had it for a while, the game went from 15 GB to 300GB
but then I stopped playing for years, until I bought a new PC.. the game was not working when I launched because I forgot to copy a single file to the new OS(the mod list which tells the game which mod file they need to load in order)

I was too happy with new PC, I just uninstall it

[wanton lily]

Only nips on one of them? Feelsbadman.

[opal scroll]

thats not the "matching" one, theres a fox male one tho

@willow epoch

[willow epoch]

right side will make me whale

[vast dew]

Oh yeah I was tripping, the video I watched doesn't showcase it as matching lmao my bad

[gentle oasis]

one of the main reason I bought a new PC was because of skyrim

[sudden locust]

Id like it without the ears tbh

[willow epoch]

its cool but not my typa fit, imma wait for the others, i havent seen most of em

[opal scroll]

id take the ears any time

[gentle oasis]

I am getting either that one or one of this.. still not decide which one to get tho.. or I might just get 2... might

[willow epoch]

anyone listening to this while playing, i miss dispatch wednesdays

[gentle oasis]

also the one on the right.. isn't that the outfit of the lord of the granary boss dude?

[opal scroll]

just check out this video on youtube it shows the good skins tho (video is called "WHERE WINDS MEET - ALL OUTFIT MALE & FEMALE VERY COOL")

[vast dew]

peak

[sudden locust]

2 is too cleann

[willow epoch]

skyrim will always be my comfort game along with rdr2 and cyberpunk

[gentle oasis]

it is so good bro, I got a lot of friends from it.. I teach people how to fix their mods and edit the mesh if there was something not working properly

[opal scroll]

i think it is him lol i just fought him

[vast dew]

this is too good for a shop skin, PLEASE I HOPE THEY DON'T HAVE CUTSCENES SO THEY DON'T TURN INTO GACHA

[proper cosmos]

just so happened to have that screenshot saved @opal scroll 🫃🏻

[gentle oasis]

yee, I would definitely reinstall it again when I get older and decide to have a long break from work situation

@sudden locustno I don't mean that I will get the 2nd picture.. I meant that I might gacha 2 of the limited outfit... perhaps.. idk

[sudden locust]

Female ver. looks better on this one

[misty scaffold]

How does someone trade in this game?

And can you trade inner way notes?

Oh nah why yall reacting with laughter

[gentle oasis]

yeee, they changed it a bit and give some extra sprite FX on it.. which is good, lets see until it comes out

[sudden locust]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-broke-gif-20574866

[proper cosmos]

fr gona have to start washing the boat to earn some💸

[wind sparrow]

trading doesn't exist lmao

[misty scaffold]

Bruh then why is there a trading option in the inventory 😭

[sudden locust]

Now this is a great idea, boat washing biz in game

[vast dew]

next patch

[buoyant remnant]

I think these will be shop only, looking at the next roaster of exclusive gacha they are all the flashy types

[opal scroll]

there actually is trading, but only for those vases/bowls or whatever they're called

[willow epoch]

what are we trading? fireworks?

[gentle oasis]

I have a bit of money to buy 2 of the gacha banner skin and a mount.. but still, I am very pulled back to do so, I was scammed by the veiled sword set, and learned how way more expensive it is in global... so im really hesitate from doing it

[vast dew]

yeah, my only hope is that it doesn't have cutscenes because those with victory cutscenes will turn into the same gacha we're complaining right now

[opal scroll]

my time to shine with my firecracker stack

[willow epoch]

everything that has special effects will be 150 pulls gacha, special effects WITH MVP will be the 7k ver

[sudden locust]

https://tenor.com/view/fireworks-joe-biden-dnc-democratic-national-convention-pretty-gif-18720473

[vagrant sparrow]

I am sorry if this is not the proper channel, but would you guys recommend some video tutorials on how Guild works?

[serene linden]

i got enough of those puppies to do my own show

[gentle oasis]

you can trade up your fireworks, 5 small firworks can be traded in for the big epic one, and 5 big epic fireworks will give you the new premium firework which will explode and show a text "we value fairness above all else"

[opal scroll]

i think you should go here and ask people there, pretty sure someones helping #🌱beginner-questions

[vagrant sparrow]

Thank you

[sudden locust]

I hope they let me start the beggars sect

[vast dew]

With these upcoming skins that are most likely not gon be scam again (jokes asides) we can now conclude that

Where Wallets Meet is peak

[vast dew]

I joined Healer sect because there's jade beauties there

[next moth]

Not really motivating I probably won't get this after 150 pity I will get 1 harmonic ball 💀

[sudden locust]

The only jade beauties imma bout to see is some wallets

[willow epoch]

i hate the sleeping daoist

[brisk quiver]

they need to remove the harmonic ball lol. I sent $200 just to get 1 harmonic

[vast dew]

good news bud, the tattoo skin is the only gacha there afaik, and it would cost the same as doing 150 pity at the very maximum

[urban raft]

u really have a point pointing out this pattern

[willow epoch]

just give me a good black skin and im happy

[frozen nimbus]

watch them all magically transform into gacha

[next moth]

There like 40 each probably

[buoyant remnant]

9-5 job

[vast dew]

devs said it themselves in CN, since they regret putting the skin to be buyable in shop in the first place that's why veiled skin rn is gacha and cn is buyable

[opal scroll]

and you need 2 for one white hair isnt that great

[willow epoch]

i replied to the wrong one

[urban raft]

noted, i see.

[next moth]

Bro it's based on China , anyway you can change skin tone in your character 😭

[vast dew]

which btw they did it to avoid the same commotion they got in CN but instead got another commotion 😭😭😭

[willow epoch]

black skin as in a black outfit , not literally black skin tone

[next moth]

They made a response and didn't fix it, just gave us some hair dye

[sand pebble]

lwk it would be cool to look like myself ing tho

[buoyant remnant]

See my history of internet made me misunderstand

[vast dew]

too bad our fav skin is the latest BP in CN server, wait for like forever 💀

[brisk quiver]

It'd be nice if they allowed you to choose what you want for the pity or at least have 70% rate up

[willow epoch]

fr?????????????????????? DAMN BRO CMON how long i gotta use this current bp drip, a YEAR?

[buoyant remnant]

No, just make em straight up buys. Wont settle for less

[vast dew]

yeah which sucks, they're really treating global as trash

I couldn't even call it a response lmao

[next moth]

Ah well ther are some clean ones

[sudden locust]

If your broke just say soooo (its me Im broke)

[brisk quiver]

Yeah thats not happening tho sadly

[willow epoch]

warframe x wwm ahh skin

[buoyant remnant]

The devs takinf our comments, they’ll flag people like me and few others who have been the same people trashing global gacha and give us 500 pity

[opal scroll]

i love the hair so much lol

[next moth]

Damn I got starting stacking up on my steam wallet just for this game each fit is like 30 😭

[proper cosmos]

Anyone know the point of the drip feed outfits? Never understood that one

[buoyant remnant]

That’s literally arthur from warframe, but younger

[brisk quiver]

Anyone know when new fits drop? I got 6k rn but the store is mid tbh

[willow epoch]

i might buy it for the hair tho, it fits my char

[vast dew]

takes a while

[wanton lily]

hopefully long enough for me to get 5 coupon in this economy

[buoyant remnant]

The best outfit is no outfit

[sudden locust]

He look like me FR my 1% chinese side at least

[vast dew]

1st pic - upcoming gacha outfit (standard banner, but the hair is premium gacha)

2nd pic - confirmation about the gold tattoo skin being equivalent to spending in 150 max pulls (so it's cheaper than the premium gacha but still expensive)

[opal scroll]

all i want is free white dye for my hairstyles man

[willow epoch]

oh theyre releasing ghostmaster

[serene linden]

no

[next moth]

These shops are more expensive then fortnite and I have dumped thousands over the years on that game

[wanton lily]

She's dressed up to hunt for a single ship owning bachelor.

[opal scroll]

mh, not really a fan of that one but that might just be me

[buoyant remnant]

That’s literally bride outfit, I’m marrying finally

[willow epoch]

this is a gacha fit? i thought i t was free, it looks worse than a beginner outfit

[next moth]

I like this one, too bad I will have to pay 500 to get CLOSE

[proper cosmos]

cus we cant see the face we spent 2 hours editing 🥀

[brisk quiver]

im 100% using my whole paycheck to get this lol

[willow epoch]

remove the veil covering the face and its peak

[next moth]

It depends on the date it releases what if I buy one roll per day

[sudden locust]

Word let me be a edgelord in peace

[next moth]

Whole point is that, makes it unique. They should just give a edit style

[gentle oasis]

That will be 8000 EB on global, take it or leave it

[willow epoch]

i need this NOW

[next moth]

How long will this game exist for or thrive for guys if long enough let's say 3 years and we all still here, we will probably all have at least 5 gacha skins if we play the game a lot

[buoyant remnant]

I dont think a lot will stay if they keep it as is, tho i do believe the game has potential to be a long runner

[tame lodge]

next gacha is either these two

[willow epoch]

all the drip i like are better with female char, chat is it time to swap

[next moth]

Don't look gacha

[wanton lily]

This game might last three but I might expire with the rates they're charging. 2 kidney can only sell for so much.

[proper cosmos]

they better not be cus i want both😭

[buoyant remnant]

Just a question all these outfits with dog ears etc, they are accessories right? Not part of it i assume?

[brisk quiver]

Probably lower. Love the game but the gacha system is pretty bad. Only a few will have over 2

[willow epoch]

the right side will be 7k, the arm has special effects

[next moth]

If we play enough we will have a decent amount of gacha overtime 150 pity is generous over 5 years

[craggy tree]

whats the best looking f2p cosmetic to get

[tame lodge]

yep they are accesssories

[buoyant remnant]

Looking at it you can prolly get 3-5 per week

[twin wave]

Obviously the one you unlock for being in jail for 100+ hours

[opal scroll]

there's some shop outfits with arm effects right now tho, dont think its gonna be gacha

[sudden locust]

Now this looks fire it would be even better with the heavenly demon face

[next moth]

Time to get a high paying job just to spend it on this game dead serious

[tame lodge]

i hope they will not do that again, x3 price in global is ridiculous

[buoyant remnant]

I genuinely hope they add more mc voices, i assume half of the guys went for mature looks and my guy sounds 12

[next moth]

Oh they will try they were testing the waters. Its crazy the treatment China get

[willow epoch]

i need thissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[sudden locust]

Looking like you need everything broduski and you know what I need you, specifically your wallet so I can get that skin too

[brisk quiver]

Pre-register fit is kinda tuff, I was rocking that for a while

[tame lodge]

i think yea, they're waiting for the frustration to die down and not giving us appropriate compensation

[willow epoch]

we shall go beg scy for the skins

[misty matrix]

Ts clean

[proper cosmos]

broo dont they wana make money??? RELEASE THE OUTFITSSSS

[sudden locust]

Tis time @stoic marsh my dear brother, my beloved whale, bless me with thy wallet

[serene linden]

i say they just drop everything cosmetic and just let the community go feral

[willow epoch]

dont, let us have time to get the 50% ticket

[next moth]

It basically has we got silly people saying not to complain because the game is free and you don't have to buy them, doesn't change the unfair prices. Some people will really just accept it and pay 3x just because the game is free

[opal scroll]

9 tailed fox outfit .. i think i gotta skip rent for a while tho

[distant osprey]

Skip eating 😔

[brisk quiver]

When are we getting a dual swords weapon skin😩

[next moth]

I am thinking about all the silly things I spent my 100 pounds monthly allowance on 😭 if only I could get it back

[willow epoch]

me asf

[vast dew]

if they treat us like CN, easily 3 skins above

[distant osprey]

Next breathing

[wanton lily]

And its bad for the game in the long term because you know there will be people who look at this that would have spend money overtime take a look and dip out.

[next moth]

Soooo tough 😭

[sudden locust]

Game boutta to make people homeless

Look America look at what Gatcha has done, make these sanctions now!

[proper cosmos]

gn lads🧨

[vast dew]

latest BP skin lmao

[wanton lily]

Nah we already homeless here in LA. Ain't owning a shed costing 700k.

[sudden locust]

Damn bro are you in Skidrow?

[brisk quiver]

factts😂

[distant osprey]

Just move at this point

[wanton lily]

I should move back to China. Cheaper housing and cheaper pearl store item.

[distant osprey]

Best plan

[vast dew]

This is exploration skin in next area btw, looks like a 1200 pearl skin but is free

[sudden locust]

Nah but facts LA, California in general is waaayyyy to pricey

[next moth]

Next region looks very nice

[oblique obsidian]

Next region is a desert so makes sense

[next moth]

Lots of people are saying they took inspiration from elden ring as if that's the first game to have a dunes environment 😭

Need this yian ting fit

[sudden locust]

Im 1% chinese can I come with you?

[oblique obsidian]

Looks like the ember of the east cosplaying Yian Ting

[vapid pendant]

What? WHEN? Nooo, I planned to save up for this

[willow epoch]

chat whats this logo on my screen

[wanton lily]

If you 1% chinese I be your dog 🙂

[vast dew]

poisoned

[next moth]

Cooked symobl

[valid jasper]

Im going to china, heading to netease office so I can give myself all cosmetics

[oblique obsidian]

Uhh...

[wanton lily]

You heard me 🙂

[sudden locust]

Then bark for me

[next moth]

Nah they would sell better if they made normal price out fit range from 15 to 30 max not 40 onwards I like that they put some 0.95 skins tho

[wanton lily]

Show me your boat first 🙂 I'll do more than barking.

[next moth]

China really eating good 😭

[oblique obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[next moth]

I actually need this

[median ridge]

That looks really good!

[hallow thunder]

Lowkey would like to see Qianyes second phase outfit in the game

[vast dew]

cough up your whole life savings

[next moth]

Fr

[brisk quiver]

They would lose money doing that lol. They are have people spending 40k on boats

[vast dew]

I would clap anyone who has that outfit

PAUSE?

[next moth]

I mean standard if they put it too high barely anyone will gacha is fine

[west lily]

does anyone know what the next gacha is going to be

[tame lodge]

that's only 2580 on cn, here it will become 10k

[hallow thunder]

Understandable, cannot argue with that

[next moth]

Sad reality

[sudden locust]

Gn folks, dont stay up unhealthly late (back to work you peseants!)

[wanton lily]

bruh

[brisk quiver]

I get what you mean but it's one of those "if its not broken don't fix it" things. They wont change it until they see a decline in profits

[next moth]

People will still buy outfits 3x unfortunately

[brisk quiver]

yup

[dusty sierra]

wth the limited outfit is cheaper in cn servers??

[next moth]

Yes

[zinc hedge]

Yepp. Still waiting for devs to compensate. If they ever will

[dusty sierra]

hope they will cause i got it for a lot of beads 💔

[vast dew]

oh... well expect the skins with "cutscenes" in their sets to be in the same gacha category next patches

[next moth]

They probably won't they responded but didn't even change it just gave us a ai apology and some 10 melody rolls and hair dye. If they responded and still haven't changed it there is no chance they will

[willow epoch]

yessir

[next moth]

Cn server shop is also way bigger btw more options more everything. Honestly the game has a terrible start. It's a shame because it's a good game

[willow epoch]

either theyll add it later or they dont care

[urban raft]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-now-dream-world-thematrix-morpheus-gif-13297927

[next moth]

Netease is known for favoritism

[urban raft]

nah its laws. chinese laws and whatnot. along with chinese people having control over impulses so they dont just say one thing and do the opposite

[next moth]

Not really laws the price is 3x and all of a sudden a gacha

[uncut tiger]

How generous is the game with the pull currency?

[burnt thorn]

is there a way to play on the cn server

[urban raft]

in cn they dont do that with these outfits i mean.

[urban raft]

yea but i think its region dependent. was looking it up earlier today and if you're in first world countries the ping isnt bad. signing up has more hoops than normal to jump through

and then u have the language thing which there seems to be no workaround for every global player playing on Chinese client has the chinese language

[willow epoch]

1 patch 10 pulls

[uncut tiger]

Fair enough

[royal anvil]

u can also grind weekly (or monthly?) pulls from the shops here n there + battlepass gives u a chance to get those golden pulls as well)

[willow epoch]

add some weekly and monthly shop u might reach 20 with some events

[burnt thorn]

have u tried it yet

[urban raft]

no because im not in a first world country. ping will be horrible

[cloud mortar]

Question. I like the musical grace outfit, how many echo beads should I buy to guarantee it? ._.

[frosty saddle]

And then you'll pull a jpeg of some cruddily drawn Japanese lady and a bunch of useless multiplayer items

[unkempt gazelle]

around 500/600 euros

[twin gulch]

Thats crazy

[royal anvil]

@uncut tiger i suggest u to start grinding for these now😭if u fully wanna get the upcoming outfits for cheaper/free (only ur hrs wasted)

[cloud mortar]

That might have been just a BIT more than I was expecting. LOL

[unkempt gazelle]

not when a skin in a boat is 40 to 70k euros

[urban raft]

lord

[royal anvil]

i mean after a boat being 40-70k, im not surprised by anything this game has to offer in terms of prices of cosmetics

[vast dew]

they also have the gacha in CN, it's just it was implemented late and they regret not making it as soon as CN launch.

They could've released the skin as shop skin still tho

[frosty saddle]

What boat?

[uncut tiger]

Honestly, if the pull income is already low, I'd rather take the game easy than spend too much time on it. It's just outfits at the end of the day 😌

Lemme not rush and tire myself out

[urban raft]

ah right keep forgetting this

[willow epoch]

just use ur jades on inner way + new inner way merchant per map, then gacha

[royal anvil]

i was also like that but i saw this outfit…im gonna grind for this like crazy😭

[hexed flower]

whos Jiang Hu Tao

[cloud mortar]

Alright, secondary question! How about the swords unseen set? o.o Is it ALSO an absurd amount of money, Or is it in the 100-200$ range? 😂

[vast dew]

SUPER ABSURD, DON'T TOUCH IT

[hexed flower]

i think the cheapest 5 star outfit is $8,000

[uncut tiger]

I'm of the opinion that 100-200$ is an absurd amount of money (for a video game), but I shudder to imagine how expensive this game can get

[vast dew]

oh wait, are you talking about the 7 pity gacha skin? if yes it's still absurd but around 100 usd

[royal anvil]

its 160$ish dollars i think? first pill 60 pearls then it gets doubled everytime u pull. imo the outfit isnt rly wortj that much😭

[willow epoch]

anything above 50 isnt, ure paying triple A prices each skin, kinda crazy

[cloud mortar]

Yeah... I have disposable income, but not THAT disposable. Jesus. Lol

[vast dew]

In case it is, I thought you're talking about the other sword gacha where you have to pull more to upgrade it's effects lmao it's unimaginable

[gritty ledge]

I’ve been eyeing the blindfold from the swords unseen event for a long time but given the ungodly amount of money I’m gonna have to spend 😭 is it really worth it to test my luck for 3 pulls or do I just give up and hope there’s cooler blindfolds in the future

[vast dew]

3 pulls is aight

[royal anvil]

some people came here to call the ones who were complaining about unfair treatment as “broke”😭 saying how we dont have disposable income to the point of cashing out for gacha skins there. its funny seeing them seek validation from other whalers

[cloud mortar]

3 pulls last night cost me 10$... Its when those 3 pulls started costing 800 echo beads per that I got scared. LOL

[gritty ledge]

Praying to the gods cause man that blindfold is fire as hell 😭🙏

[vast dew]

crazy one of the BIGGEST whale aka Scy is agreeing to us also lmao

[cloud mortar]

Unpopular opinion for whales, but disposable income, and complete disregard for common sense are 2 different things, and spending 8 grand on a skin for your character, is a great way to not be able to whale in the future.

[willow epoch]

hes the biggest whale atp, ive never seen anyone host a boat tham him

[royal anvil]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING TOO😭😭 like why do u wanna be rude to others

[forest cypress]

8 grand on one whole skin is insane, there are only a few people out there that could whale this much into practically every skin that will come out

[vast dew]

well if you don't get it it's aight, there's upcoming non gacha skins that are more fire than the whole set of veiled skin trust me

[royal anvil]

id understand if it was 100 or even 200$ skins MAX but this one is 600$+ (the boat being 50k)😭is absurd to me as well.

[vast dew]

To add that, everytime scy hosts she needs to spend 2k pearls too

talk about maintenance lmao

[willow epoch]

ye

[unkempt gazelle]

I hope the next area will unlock new ways to get golden ticket
I'm already at 50 that I didn't bought lol

[vast dew]

DAYUM, CONSIDERING WE GET WEEKLY AND MONTHLY PULLS ACROSS ALL SHOPS

DAMN

[forest cypress]

Is there even a reason doing pulls without trying to get the main skin from the system? Cuz I feel like the base rewards dont even feel rewarding at all

[willow epoch]

trying their luck

[unkempt gazelle]

those are pretty bad imo
the great number is from small quests around the world

[royal anvil]

wait can u builld pity on they? like roll and stop until certain number so u can get the skin u want as soon as it drops in the gacha

[kind ocean]

Good day chat

[brisk quiver]

imo the side rewards are terrible so id say lol. The weapon skin is pretty cool but thats it

[unkempt gazelle]

yeah most likely
but hitting pity at this rate will take 3/4 months if there isn't new content as big as the 2 areas in the next month

[simple furnace]

So you can sell 40K dollar skin, but can't give us boob slider?

[carmine lake]

How do you have that many? Currently I only have 37.

[hybrid pumice]

I don’t care much about the gacha, and I don’t like the skins currently in the rotation, but I have lingering melodies from both paying real money. Should I save those for when there is something I might want, or just spend them for the random materials and stuff?

[forest cypress]

Well,then there wont be any reason for me pulling the banners. I know damn well I won't be getting that skin unless i reach pity

[unkempt gazelle]

cat
bp
martial spar
from previous pull money to get new pull
weekly/monthly thing
that one NPC in Kaifeng

[vast dew]

pity carries over, even if you get the skin you can just convert it to 2 orbs (make sure you don't redeem the skin so it's untouched so it can be converted)

and just wait for gacha skin you can just buy with those 2 orbs

[brisk quiver]

save

[fossil bronze]

not one but 2 orbs is very disheartening

[carmine lake]

I've never heard about the NPC. Where is it? It can't be accessed from any of the menus, can it?

[fossil bronze]

hes at the top of kaifeng in a restricted zone. you can click on the currency and it will tell you where the merchant is idk how to get access to it though

[unkempt gazelle]

it's a dude that don't want to talk to you unless you do a specific quest

[carmine lake]

Thank you so much! That's really good to know! Is it weekly? Should I rush it?

[unkempt gazelle]

it's 1 time rn
I heard it will refill after some updates (don't know if it's true)

[gentle oasis]

lets gooo McSTOOOOMPP!!!

[willow epoch]

i cant do this no more chat

[royal anvil]

alright thank u

[simple cobalt]

Wait is this actually a thing?

[daring hamlet]

Honestly no the non-cosmetics are so terrible T-T i throw a 10-roll into the main pool when i can to build up to the legendary pity though

[forest cypress]

Yea I guess when you get the pulls through for the legendary and pity buildup for the next banners it's fine, but paying money for banners won't be a thing for me if this won't change😭

[daring hamlet]

The limited banner using paid currency is so horrible lmaoo then u gotta dig through like 5 different menus and 10 overworld shops to find sellers that give the limited currency

[carmine lake]

The amount of time it takes to get to a free pity is insane. It's like 2-3 years.

[unkempt gazelle]

HUH

[carmine lake]

Yeah, 2-3 years and you need to spend I think 5800 jade a month to get all the limited weekly/monthly pulls. I need to dig out where I did my calculations again...

[forest cypress]

The system feels very confusing for now, let's hope that playtime will make up for that

[brisk quiver]

they should remove the food buffs and fireworks you get from it. feels like rage bait seeing that in multiple 10 pulls lol

[unkempt gazelle]

it's more like 37.5 weeks
and with all we get at the start it's gonna be less

[bronze shuttle]

This game has incorporated what it had learned from other games. I don't feel it as 100% copycat but they've been inspired by the idea.

Unlike before though, information sharing today is quick. Also, most if not all spenders have experienced spending some place else.

I think when they release the Blindfold sword costume, it was to target those that can do more than the $35 outfit but can't with the 1600 per 10x draw. They're trying to target that market.

I'm contemplating whether I should spend my bonus for a shot at 80 draws. Already did 25 and will get 5 more. But you know what's stopping me? Experience. Everytime I feel like I have shot, it is actually the opposite that happens. So yea, netease I think Im gonna go easy on this one. Just not buy it at all and regret later I have trash items not the ones I want.

[proven fiber]

is it still 500 bucks

[jolly epoch]

So 8 months for 1 orb and outfits need 2. Thats a lot

[jaunty jackal]

There's something about spending $100 dollars and only getting some consumable fire works that's keeping from even considering playing the gacha.

[brisk quiver]

Facts I saw asmon gold spend $400 and not get a single thing lol. All i needed to see to not touch the gacha

[wanton lily]

He what now? He actually swipped for gacha?

[carmine lake]

Say a month is 4 weeks.
2 lingering melody from shop weekly. (1600 jade)
1 lingering melody from season shop weekly. (800 jade)
2 lingering melody from jade pulls monthly. (3840 jade)

You actually need 6240 jade monthly if you buy all of those.

300 pulls for a guaranteed outfit, but every 36 pulls you get an extra pull, so a discount of 8 pulls.
So realistically, it's 292 pulls.
From above: 14 pulls a week.
292 / 14 = 21 months (rounded up).

So it's actually nearly 2 years instead. That's not including battle pass and everything, and assuming that you can actually obtain 6240 jade a month.

[jaunty jackal]

Yeah, I watched the same thing. Hard pity x2 being ~$500 is a pretty nasty.

[wanton lily]

suddenly those 100 jade a day from the monthly pass is looking more nessesary than I thought.

[bronze shuttle]

When do we unlock the 2nd standard banner

[craggy tree]

What’s current level cap 55 or 60 if 55 why

[carmine lake]

The battle pass is like, 5 more pulls. So you know, not really that much shaved off.
Please tell me my math is wrong though and it's actually sooner. I'm not meant to join Lone Cloud.

[carmine lake]

Monthly pass if put at the same time frame as the rest of my calculation gives 2800 jade per 28 days...

[proven fiber]

do outposts they give like 100 exploration

[unkempt gazelle]

battle pass chest linger melody probability could be interesting to know
(from level 50 it's only that)

[craggy tree]

Marked on map?

[wanton lily]

I'm just saying it because knowing my lazy rear I'm gonna end up failing top meet that 6400 jade requirement without it.

[unkempt gazelle]

jade pulls seems to be weekly too

[carmine lake]

Yeah, I already factored that in, don't worry.

[bold jasper]

i hear china just pull a new outfit, someone send picts?

[carmine lake]

I'm so, so used to playing gacha games, but honestly, the time it takes for a free guarantee wouldn't bother me as much if it were similar rate to the progenitor of gacha laws: Granblue Fantasy. The reason gacha games have to show their rates, and the implementation of the standard of any sort of guarantee (or "spark") is because of a character named Andira, which a guy spent over $10,000 just to get her.

[unkempt gazelle]

I think that they should honestly rewards players that played the game early with pulls to both attract new players early and give us more chances
Because if the next 2/3 weeks we get like 30 free pulls that would be insane.

[carmine lake]

In Granblue Fantasy, if you play and min-max gaining gacha currency, you can have a guarantee two-ish times a year as a run-of-the-mill player. I think they're being extra stingy for no reason at all, or to really make the outfits in gacha a real show of wealth. Like wearing any name brand clothing.

[wanton lily]

I had to pull 500 for a guarantee SSSR in Onmyoji on CN so if its anything to go by gonna be bleak ngl.

[carmine lake]

Personally, I would prefer if they just shortcut getting a harmonic core through the jade shop annd restrict it per major patch or something.

[unkempt gazelle]

I would pay those 30k jades with the smile

[bronze nebula]

[carmine lake]

If we say you could get 1 harmonic core, per 150 jade draws, you would still need 240,000 jade, but that feels better than having to remember to trade for premium draws monthly.

[vast dew]

isn't it weekly?

[carmine lake]

Exchanging essence of earth for lingering melody is 2 monthly.

[vast dew]

oh yeah

[carmine lake]

If it were weekly, that'd actually be even more impossible to trade monthly.
Of course, those calculations are all done without factoring in how we get jade, and at what rate.
I think that's too difficult to estimate, honestly.
I mean, I could probably take the time to figure out the total jade we can all get for free, but... Um. Personally, I don't want to.

[lusty sigil]

games kinda fun but may i know which purchase is worth it using real money?

[unkempt gazelle]

Battle pass and monthly pass
Everything else is cosmetic

[lusty sigil]

i see 🤔 okie thanks! gonna go with battle pass

[lapis sparrow]

🗣️I'm going to Purchase The Battle Pass for Sure

[carmine lake]

You can't buy power in this game, so it honestly is really up to your own sense of value and aesthetic.
The only call that is a bit more controversial is rolling on the "Swords Unseen" banner.
If you're unlucky, 7000 pearls. If you get it at 2580 pearls or less, it's a fine deal.
Swords Unseen was originally a fixed-price package for 2580 pearls, which many people were upset about the other day.
The devs say they're addressing it. So far the assumption is the reason why it's gacha for global is because the outfit was originally meant to be gacha on CN, but was made a fixed-price package as an apology.

[deep parrot]

Low key if they make pity less than what it is now I’d be pretty peeved for how much I spent on pulls 😭

[unkempt gazelle]

As a F2P player if you want to refine your weapon to max tier with everything it would probably take 3/4 years of pull lol

[lapis sparrow]

Where can I get some Help?
I spend all my Echo Earnings from Lvl 1 to like 43 while is was on the event boat, cases The Draws.
Like 3K echo jade.
After the event was finished they took almost everything from me everything Cosmetic Stuff etc. had that White Bird sitting on my Shoulder and everything bruh 😭🥀

[carmine lake]

Uhh, the boat event just lets you try things on, not keep them. I've never been on the boat, so I can't offer anything more than that.

[unkempt gazelle]

You have everything that the owner of the boat has when you are on the boat.

[lapis sparrow]

Oh ik what you mean but I'm talking about I Spend 3k Echo Jade while being on that boat I put everything on from my own Inventory what I pulled out of there.

[unkempt gazelle]

spent on what lol

[deep parrot]

Are you saying you bought cosmetics from the shop while on the boat, and when leaving the boat the stuff you bought disappeared?

[lapis sparrow]

Feierliches Echo Ziehung

🙏Yessss

[deep parrot]

I would make a ticket in #game-support , they should be able to refund or give you your items, I’d imagine they have a purchase log of some sort

[tame lodge]

oohhhhhhhhhh not bad

[lapis sparrow]

Thank You for your Help

[jaunty jackal]

I've kille herr like 60+ times and got nothing but cosmetic tokens :/

[silk mortar]

could anyone explain the pity on the gacha? like how much money is pity and what do you get

[serene linden]

someone take him

[left otter]

cant say that name in bed so no

[carmine lake]

Rates are bad to begin with. The simple version is that you get one legendary item every 150 draws.
The legendary item is not necessarily one of the highlight items and is likely a harmonic core.
You can trade this item for items worth 1 harmonic core, or do another 150 draws for another.

[covert viper]

"Jeff Gerg" literally the most disgusting name to be born with

[silk mortar]

so with the worst pity how much would the banner item be

[serene linden]

he felt my aura through discord

[ember ferry]

will the pity carry on to next banner or reset when the count over?

[unkempt gazelle]

1k

[deep parrot]

ask him for all the mirage boat pages

[carmine lake]

If we said you were RAW spending, like only swiping your credit card, about $500-$600 USD.

[left otter]

Sometimes farming has bad yields lol

[carmine lake]

"Usage count does not reset with Great Sound updates"

• About Draw
  I assume it carries over.

[left otter]

that's the amount I spent on 5 star meisho doto in uma :(

[silk mortar]

i got a core off a free pull but i want another one also for free. what’s the chance.

[carmine lake]

0.747%.

[silk mortar]

so if i did a 10 pull the chance of hitting is like around 7 percent

[unkempt gazelle]

Pulling a single core is the worst because if you want a skin it’s basically like you never pulled anything

[silk mortar]

the flashy outfits r a little too flashy, i like the simpler elegant stuff so i just use the cores on like the weapon effects

[carmine lake]

I'm pretty sure that every time you do a draw, the chance of getting the item is 0.747%. Each time you draw, you have to hit that 0.747% and there's no increase in chance.

[silk mortar]

i know but i meant mathematically lol

[deep parrot]

i wouldn’t count on mathematics

theoretically yea but each spin will always be .7

[carmine lake]

I don't think that's how math works, because the chance of getting it is the same regardless.

[royal mortar]

That isn’t how math works..

[lunar cloud]

HELP WHO IS THIS

[silk mortar]

yeah it is..

like if you flipped a coin 50 times, each individual flip is 50%, but the chance of hitting heads all 50 times isn’t 50%

[deep parrot]

he’s saying theoretically if he spins 10 times there’s a 7% chance he could get one based on binomial probability

[potent lake]

Dang they still haven't commnted anything more about that time they sold us a 2580 pearl regular shop outfit as a time limited gacha costing 7400 pearls?

[fallow lantern]

That's ur sugar daddy

[lunar cloud]

oh no thank you 🥰

[deep parrot]

i was just about to post a very similar image lol

[carmine lake]

You know, if that's what you want to believe, go for it. I'm not going to lie to myself and say I'm going to get the item before pity.

[silk mortar]

wdym believe that’s just how math works 😭

[deep parrot]

There’s no way i would count on binomial probability, its reliability extends as far as its theoretical outcome, which is never something to count on for fixed percentage rates

[potent lake]

For one of you that's more math nerdy than me, how can you calculate what the odds are per roll if you know the chance including being guaranteed to get one of the items at 150?

[carmine lake]

Have you ever did grinding for an item that has a 0.16% chance to drop with no hard pity, and watch the number of mobs you killed for it slowly increase to where you should have gotten the item 5 times over and you still haven't gotten your item drop?

[carmine lake]

If you go to the draw page, and click "intro" it says the rate is 0.747%. It's less a math problem and more of "this is what they tell me".

[silk mortar]

i mean i guess? but that’s just one scenario. like i’m sure you can dropped stuff earlier than expected and later than expected right? so if you average that it probably stays pretty consistent

[potent lake]

That's including the pity.. That means that the fact you are guaranteed to get a legendary after 150 rolls is included in the chance given. What are the odds of getting it in the first 149 rolls?

[deep parrot]

regardless of mathematics or not, speaking from experience on over a thousand draws, the chances are still low as hell lol

[silk mortar]

ya 7% is still really low either way so it’s not like it changes much lol

[carmine lake]

What's the significance to discussing this? If we do any calculation without including pity, or even give anyone hope they can realistically get the item before pity, will that benefit the community in any healthy way?

[deep parrot]

no no binomial probability is only theoretical math and does not apply to actual chance % on fixed rate percentages 🥸

[silk mortar]

lol i mean there isnt u and some other person just said it’s not how the math worked out and ya @deep parrot i kno

[carmine lake]

Yeah, well we're thinking about real-world application, not theoretical math.

[crisp zealot]

My name is fairness.

And I'm here to scam you.

[silk mortar]

wait till u find out real world applications all been built on theoretical math lol

do u think they rawdog skyscrapers, or do u think they do theoretical math” to work out how it should be built

[potent lake]

If something has 50% chance to succeed, (1/2)^10 = 0,0009765625 ~= 0,001 ~= 0.1% chance that someone fails 10 times in a row.
This means that out of 1000 people, 1 person is going to fail 10 times on a roll that is 50%.

With 2 million players, thats 2000 people.
If you then account for the fact that you "participate" in grinding for hundreds of different items, it would be a lot more odd if you never were an unlucky outlier.

It's similar to the fact that nobody is surprised that someone won the lottery, you'd be surprised if it was someone you knew.

[carmine lake]

I think you don't really understand what's implied by "theoretical math". Theoretical math the study of abstract mathematical concepts and structures for their own sake, rather than for immediate practical application. Calculating stress tolerances is not theoretical math.

[deep parrot]

winning the lottery would be 170 mirage pages on one pull

[serene linden]

Dad joke of the day:

Why don’t eggs tell jokes? They’d crack each other up.

[silk mortar]

girl i don’t think u understand math or stats in general 😭

[carmine lake]

If Yue and I are eggs, I sure am cracking, but it's not from laughter.

[deep parrot]

when does a joke become a dad joke
when it becomes apparent

[crisp zealot]

I don't think you understand math 🥸 uhuh so bashicallly 🤓

Ya'll stop being nerds.

[carmine lake]

I'm sorry, I only work with equations for programming and not chance statistics.
No matter what, you're just saying hoopahlah like it changes anything about the gacha rates like it's suppose to change how I feel about them.

[royal mortar]

Lemme know how far your theoretical 7% gets you. It’s not a reliable form of math in this specific context and you arguing about is wild tbh.

[crisp zealot]

According to my calculations bashed on theoretical maffs, the gacha pullsh in wwm is fair 🤓

[deep parrot]

it gets no where, trust me :(

[silk mortar]

it got me this far so ur wrong

[royal mortar]

My calculations say someone should buy me my first 170 pulls or maybe even the boat lets dream big

[brazen pendant]

real 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

[serene linden]

here’s real math spent 600 got 1 full drop and then pity

[crisp zealot]

Dream big brokie, lemme invite you to my mirage boat

Better have white hair to enter

[carmine lake]

Your calculations didn't get you anything. Calculations didn't make you lucky. You were just lucky.

[royal mortar]

An anomaly does not create a baseline. Just because you got a core does not make your argument hold any water Jesus Christ dude let it go

[silk mortar]

these two mfs glazing each other about bein wrong 😭 ima go to sleep

[crisp zealot]

Uhmm ackshually they manifested luck through quantum mechanics which state the present alters the past 🤓🤓☝️

[royal mortar]

Through the power of transitive property and standing on Sys boat. His boat is now my boat.

Edit : didn’t mean to reply i have proven myself brain dead

[grave edge]

How do I send pictures here

[deep parrot]

ive spun over a thousand times, by ur “math” i should be swimming in legendaries

[unkempt gazelle]

it's Scy

[brazen pendant]

you have to be a certain level im pretty sure, just chat a lot ✌️

[carmine lake]

I hope your picture is as funny as the jester Yue is.

[crisp zealot]

Also guysh according to my hypothesis, I am actually the mirage boat itself being manifested through yue's maths right this second

I will appear on their next 1 pull

[grave edge]

45 rolls and i get all bad stuff what da fuh

[royal mortar]

Don’t care 🤍
Not trying to be rude but you expect me to remember?

[daring hamlet]

average wwm heartbreak 💔 they got the consumable firework for 4* it’s insane

[deep parrot]

i wish his math was accurate cus id have one

[unkempt gazelle]

I don't know, he is pretty active here

[brazen pendant]

real💔 manifesting them for us soon

[crisp zealot]

I desperately want the white dragon hair

Time to make up a mathematical concept

[royal mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[grave edge]

my purples were inshade hairdye x3, lone march hair, and shadow puppetry ._.

[deep parrot]

if i could id give u a harmonic core i would but im saving my last two for one of the new outfits from CN if they release em

[crisp zealot]

Sniffle T^T... my poor heart

[royal mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-you-who-are-you-excuse-me-leave-me-alone-mind-your-business-gif-15629630053949127615

[carmine lake]

Holy—how much did you roll to say "last two"?

[hearty sail]

are we even getting trading on global?

[deep parrot]

where do i check my rolls

[crisp zealot]

Okay but I still kinda dripped out though. JUST ONE HAIR.
One darn core.

Then life fulfilled.as dragon.

[royal mortar]

If they don’t give it to us the backlash will be wayyy worse then what they got for this most recent bit

[grave edge]

Is it worth spending my essence of heaven for gold rolls? I only have 50 essense

[unkempt gazelle]

that or the background

[vital moss]

Black hair statistical poverty detected

[crisp zealot]

That's purple hair you statistical victim of colour blindness

[muted kite]

im not sure if the cat outfit is worth 50 dollars... i could buy a bunch of pizza with that

[grave edge]

i got firework...

[royal mortar]

I bought it
I regret nothing
Edit : PAWS
PAWS PAWS PAWS

[brazen pendant]

virtual cat ears of joy and whimsy or the curse of greed and gluttony

[forest rampart]

SO I got one of those (2) ball thing after like 30 draws. Is this lucky or average?

[unkempt gazelle]

based
so far I got 2 purple rarity cosmetics

[deep parrot]

i been saying over a thousand rolls this whole time 😭 its only 839

[royal mortar]

I got a sticker from the gacha. Ty for free ten pullys hoyo sorry mean netease

[muted kite]

yes but.. 50 dollars! also im afraid once ig et it ill never wear anything else

[crisp zealot]

I got a vase and I'm #BLESSED!
Thank you netease. I can sell this to feed my family in the kaifeng slums

[unkempt gazelle]

just 110 more pulls and I will be the goat of F2P

[brazen pendant]

i got a sticker AND a vase… i guess netease really set me up for success later on 😏

[royal mortar]

It is indeed really really really cute. It was a little hard to dye and some of the channels are weird but it’s my favorite like “cute” fit i have so far

[forest rampart]

Because of how good this game is. I'm more than willing to give back to the devs by spending a decent bit. Just to shi& on IGN

[crisp zealot]

In 1 year. You can do his. PATIENCE

[deep parrot]

we'll get there soon, gotta have more i wanna buy first

[carmine lake]

Thank you for doing your part in keeping the servers running.

[serene linden]

i got 1 hair style left i wanna get another 400 should get me it

[potent lake]

That's about half the duration of that banner we got that sold us a 2580 pearl non limited shop outfit as a 7400 pearl gacha in the global version. I think by the time the banner that sold us a 2580 pearl outfit for 7400 pearls is over, we'll be able to get to level 8.

[carmine lake]

Hey, it's more like 1 year and 9 months or something!

[crisp zealot]

I'll donate him my nonexistent harmonic core

[simple furnace]

Bro i thought China was super advanced, till i saw them squatting toilets.

[forest rampart]

Has anyone gotten the legendary gacha in $200 or less?

[serene linden]

i did got horse in 20 draws

[unkempt gazelle]

worldwide
probably a lot of people

[crisp zealot]

The fact I'd need to throw 350-400 bucks out to reach hard pity rn is wild

120 pulls left to do

[carmine lake]

I'm not risking it personally. I'm just going to wait until there's an outfit I really want, and whale the remainder I need whenever that is...

[deep parrot]

dont worry, according to an individual, theres a 7% chance you will hit a legendary in the next 10 pulls and that math is solid 😎
(dont actually believe this, its not true)

[crisp zealot]

I might as well C6 my c4 arlecchino in genshin with that money and have leftovers

[forest rampart]

I got 1 harmonic core - "just" one more to go 🥹

Is it worthy getting two and using now? Or should I just wait ?

[unkempt gazelle]

JUST A HARD PITY

use it on what you like visually
check all outfit china videos to see if there is sopmething you prefer

[crisp zealot]

150 more pulls.

RIGHT NOW

[potent lake]

Law of large numbers, if we assume all 2 million players have used their free rolls, there's probably quite a few people that got legendaries in them. Similar to how someone always wins the lottery, and it doesn't surprise you that someone does.

[celest blade]

According to my calculations, there’s 100% chance you will get it 50% of the time. You either do or do not.

[deep parrot]

now that is some solid math, let me roll a bit more

[carmine lake]

I would honestly weigh your desire for the item for what it is, and the value of the clout to figure out if it's really worth it...

[serene linden]

my years of playing bdo has prepared me for this game

[carmine lake]

But all the premium outfits in BDO aren't gacha? 😭 Or did I miss something?

[deep parrot]

if only i could pay to get this cooldown away 😭

[crisp zealot]

For what an item is...

The answer is kinda.. nothing. It's pixels with no actual value

Clout? Plenty. But you'll have to act nonchalant and stand around, getting enjoyment from seeing people check you out then run off 😂😂😂

[celest blade]

My years of not spending on outfits have ruined my odds

[serene linden]

who said anything about outfits

[forest rampart]

This game deserves the gacha whales more than any other game in existance TBF.

Tell me another gatcha that isn't pay to win

[lusty sigil]

that draw x10 thing, is it worth it? its all purely for cosmetics right?

[carmine lake]

Okay. You got me there. I wish you the greatest of luck.

[deep parrot]

oh how i forgot about the trash % rates for enhancing on BDO 😭

[crisp zealot]

Just cosmetics.

Worth it? Depends on your lifestyle and expendable income

[serene linden]

paying 300 for 1 ap was brutal

[lusty sigil]

i see 🤔 i think i just stick to battle pass and then monthly pass. 8 bucks per month i think its ok. i dont mind supporting the devs that way

[celest blade]

Unless you can piss away a few hundo without blinking an eye? No.. banners are not worth it

[crisp zealot]

Very, very big respect.

I wish cosmetics weren't such a pull for me, but I spend far too much time with caring for appearances than many others irl 😂

Ig it translates to games too

[serene linden]

i’m what u call a collector i want to have everything expect the 40k boat im good on that i blame warfrsme for my addiction

[celest blade]

Well just keep pulling, you’ll get the boat whether you want it or not 😂

[forest rampart]

How much would the boat take?

[crisp zealot]

Honestly.. I don't think I could ever see the point of buying a 40k boat. Even if I was a millionaire

I'd get a real boat. Sail out on coastal waters, enjoy life

But the same way I want the white dragon hair, whales want items too. It's just that their means to acquire them is easier 😂

[timid moth]

People in star citizen spend more

[crisp zealot]

As I said above

I don't see the point. But equally, dropping 350-400 usd to get white hair also has no point to many

[serene linden]

the goal is i limit my self to like 1k a month on the game

[forest rampart]

I mean. I come from throne and liberty. 4 Grand a man in our 20-man solid guild, it's doable.

[celest blade]

I can only justify 300-500 in a game I’ve already spent like 4K hours in

[echo inlet]

Sup

[unkempt gazelle]

I was spending a lot of money in past but since some events and reconsideration I am now a F2P abuser

[crisp zealot]

That's what I do.

How much enjoyment + time will this game give me, that justifies me spending enough that could get me 4-5 new games 😂

Genshin was an intro to that ngl. And to gacha

[deep parrot]

if i spin and get two harmonic cores, and buy two things ill be at 30k elegance and get a cool title ;p

[fringe valve]

does any1 know how to get this warehouse key for the vernal umbrella bro it’s lodged between the shelf and wall and you can’t seize it at all or press f on it how tf do I get it bro

[unkempt gazelle]

just buy the boat like Scy and get 170k elegance

[crisp zealot]

Does anyone know how much.. free pulls you get with lile every 30-40 pulls?

Like essemce stuff you can exchange or whatever

[deep parrot]

im not that rich 😭

[celest blade]

Yup. If I’m not getting the hours, I’m not spending. I gotta feel like I’m getting value in game time to swipe

[worthy fog]

wouldnt it be hilarious if they scrap the previous rolls harmonic's for some goofy currency that you have to trade in 4 of to get ONE harmonic for the new draw? 😂

[deep parrot]

that would probably mark the end of my roll spree lol

[celest blade]

Don’t give them any ideas 😂

[crisp zealot]

I mean so far the game isn't justifying it.

Pvp is a nightmare with ping issues. So is a lot of multiplayer boss fights

Currently servers have a bug where you can't see people that can see you

[forest rampart]

If you're into Guild content, it's easy to spend on this game. Just being able to give back to how generous these devs are to the gameplay alone makes it worth for me.

(wrong reply) the @old sul guy

[deep parrot]

pog easy two harmonic cores

[crisp zealot]

But still.. I see myself playing a lot of wwm.

Just. Need. One. Damn. Core. Then I'm satisfied with not touching the gacha for a year 😂

[celest blade]

Yea, I’m at 80 hours of gameplay and I’m running out of steam. The lag and latency issues, bugs, and sect leaderboard abusers along with the horrific drip feeding and time gating are really starting to get to me.

[worthy fog]

@deep parrot

IM just expecting the worse cause thats the kind of thing that happened back in Blade&soul / Revelation online, the only 2 mmo's i played heavily before this one but i quit them in 2020.

I hope this game doesnt do anything scummy like that.

Id rather expect tthe bad, and be pleasantly surprised that they dont do it, than over hoping and get disappointed

[unkempt gazelle]

stop flexing 💔

[crisp zealot]

Oh yeah.. ngl I'm okay with the timegate. I got used to it with genshin

At the same time, I've played genshin for 3 years now or more. I'm hoping to wwm actually lasts half as long 😂

[celest blade]

What if the breakdown mechanic isn’t in our version, just like the other features they neglected to add 😂

[timid moth]

Only thing missing is Szechuan sauce

[worthy fog]

i dont see why it wouldnt, a year later in CN(where games live and die really fast) its still one of the most played games. So its easily making enough money to cover both CN/Global upkeep from cn alone. Add in whales from the west and I dont see the game getting shut down for many years.

The quality of updates is another discussion all together cause greedy mega corps love to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the pursuit of ever increasing revenue 🤦‍♀️

[crisp zealot]

I'm SO curious about this.

Can you break down the outfit/horse for cores?

[unkempt gazelle]

I heard the next cap will be the last per season
after tht max level will depends of new big updates rather than fixed days

[blissful dagger]

In the main story line of Chapter Two DayBreak Reunion , got stucked

[serene linden]

well the company also have there hand in marvel rivals and just look how they keep pumping out skins and characters instead of balancing the game all i’m saying

[tawdry estuary]

anyone have list of upcoming weapon skins? i'm looking for the one that give purple lightning effect on dual blades

[crisp zealot]

That's the thing. It's all hype and the feeling of having things to explore

Once the honeymoon phase is over.. the game will need to DELIVER.

[unkempt gazelle]

just keep 1500euros on the side and it's probably gonna be here in the next few weeks
(if that's the one similar to the blade skin we have rn)

[worthy fog]

to be fair, not a single hero shooter i ever played is perfectly balanced. The people who make cosmetics for that game are NOT the devs that balance the game. These hero shooter and moba type games will never ever be perfectly balanced. How long has league existed and its still got some variant of issues with balance.

[deep parrot]

was it worth it? ya

[crisp zealot]

Did you manage to deconstruct the outfit for cores?

[deep parrot]

yea it saved me a bit of money

[crisp zealot]

You are a lucky (lady?)

[worthy fog]

Im waiting till after this month to do a bunch of draws 🎇

hopefully i get saber luck cause mine is bad

[serene linden]

i agree but like marvel is really bad about it

[crisp zealot]

The fact you basically get 1 to like.. 5? Free pulls a month with jade..

I'll never get that hair at such pace.

[deep parrot]

@worthy fog i wouldnt say luck, more like a lot of money :*(
@crisp zealot yes

[serene linden]

people say money can’t buy happiness but it buys me a lot of stuff that makes me happy

[tawdry estuary]

it's this one, i wanted to know when it's coming and if it's gacha

[unkempt gazelle]

You will get the other variant that will drop in 2 years
We are in the same boat lol

[crisp zealot]

80 days left.

120 pulls to go.

Max of.. realistically, 2-3 free pulls a month?

If I get to 40 pulls left.. can spend a 100 for guarantee.

[hard vigil]

Did you fight all the martial art challenges on the map? They give 1 for free per fight

[crisp zealot]

I have around 4-5 left..

[worthy fog]

Well yeah pf cpirse HM phase is real, but thats what i mean. CN launched with less content and has been out for almost a year and is still delivering. Again thats a place where games live and die by much harsher standards especially f2p. So it still doing so well means it has legs.

[hard vigil]

Dont forget, China has a different culture, (more gacha, grinding etc) so when we say no more content, they fight the same boss another 100 times or do multiplayer stuff

[crisp zealot]

As long as they maintain Global the same way.

Unless CN are also struggling with horrendous server ping issues and bugs

[potent lake]

I think we're missing a bunch of the systems to get more cheap/free rolls that CN has. When you then try to apply the same Gacha with insane costs compared to many other games it becomes nuts. We don't have the cheap premium rolls that give you untradeable things, because we don't have the trading system. We appear to also be getting less "giveaways" than they get, like the anniversary celebration etc.

[serene linden]

what i miss i was peeing

[hard vigil]

Global servers vs local server around the corner

China still has one legendary pull per 6 months iirc i saw on reddit @potent lake

[hearty socket]

Does pity count carry over on the celestial Echo banner? (Tyy)

[crisp zealot]

We're just being grinded like nothing

It's perfect. I love when a company tries to get you to sell your soul 😂❤️

[lusty sigil]

yea the draw x10 thing, i hope there's no 50/50 tech over here 😭

[potent lake]

We need to constantly bring this up, over and over and over and over again even though we get sick of seeing it. The game was marketed a lot on the good will and healthy systems it has in CN, to then give us a version with those things stripped out is pretty gross.

[crisp zealot]

I wish you could simply work for the gacha currency.

I've literally waited/saved for a year on some gacha games, because it just.. gave me free pulls to collect by playing

But here? It is disgustingly stingey.

[hard vigil]

Saving up currency/pulls. Mostly same thing
Just now we can't buy the skins directly

[lusty sigil]

do you think it will work if our VPN switch to CN and we got that sweet treatment? 🤔

[crisp zealot]

Yeah except with WWM you get 1 free pull a month with echo jade. Or 2 free ones.

Not much of a reward for playing

[potent lake]

I mean you can just play on the CN version, but I think that's beside the point.

[ember ferry]

every week we can get up to 5 so if u wait 30 week u can pity 1 times

[unkempt gazelle]

So it means you can get an harmonic core and the pity will be at 300 with 4 pulls a month.

[hard vigil]

China also gets one core every 6 months ish as a f2p

[crisp zealot]

5 every week? How exactly

I don't see these, unless it's another apology email with a pull in it. 1 pull per month costing 200 echo

[ember ferry]

from shop

[unkempt gazelle]

and that’s extra good
we aren’t sur to get one after 6months in global lol

@ember ferry some are monthly not weekly

[ember ferry]

yes but the weekly at least 3 right?

[unkempt gazelle]

I think so if you do the fish jade thing

[lusty sigil]

after reading all these, i kinda hesitate now to invest on this game 😭 i dont want my effort and money to go to waste

[hard vigil]

Some sources are not renewable like the kitty puzzle and martial challenges unless they reset sometime

[crisp zealot]

There's like 500 different shops bro..

The only reliable way is 1 pull a month with echo. Rn we have the cat event, a total of 5 pulls can be bought. 50 cat points per pull

[deep parrot]

you dont have to invest if you dont want to

[unkempt gazelle]

I hope they do or we are doomed
Because I doubt a new area with 4 of them each 3 month is gonna save times lol

[hard vigil]

The game itself is perfectly fine. If there's a store skin you can directly buy if you like it? Go for it. Its just the gacha thats problematic

[ember ferry]

jianghu treasure 2x weekly
season shop 1x weekly

[crisp zealot]

Don't invest, in my very genuine opinion

Not yet, wait a month is my guess. See if they're on the generally right track

But that's my opinion only, keeping money for irl is more important imo

[bold jasper]

also challange and 1 shop in kaifang give you 1 each

[hard vigil]

Jade also gets less and less the more you've done (chests, oddities etc, non renewable)
So only remewable activities will get you jade instead eventually

[lusty sigil]

oh okie i hold on first because i was thinking of doing just monthly pass, its cheap yet i got something out of it too. But im just uncertain still, yea

[ember ferry]

u can use this
・ Draw Shop (36 Essence of Heaven)
・ Draw Shop (12 Essence of Earth)
・ Jianghu Treasure Items Shop (200 Jade Echo, 2 per week)
・ Season Shop (200 Jade Echo)
・ Meow Meow Temple Qinghe (50 Bells, 2 Limit)
・ Meow Meow Temple Shop Kaifeng (40 Meow Meow Coin, 3 Limit)
・ Zhao Feiyan's Warehouse (1 Limit)
・ Monthly Fund (1 after 20-day login)

[unkempt gazelle]

I did everything now I wait for weekly reset

[willow epoch]

FINALLY

[hard vigil]

There goes his 1 message per minute

[unkempt gazelle]

?

@ember ferry it does

[ember ferry]

same bro i need 120 times more, hope the pity carry over

[willow epoch]

1hr and 30mins on murong yuan heros realm

[lusty sigil]

at least the good news is this is NOT pay to win so combat/gameplay wont affect anything using real money

[hard vigil]

It does. Unless they also changed that from china to global lmao

[unkempt gazelle]

what is hero's realm again i forgot

[ember ferry]

1 last thing, only the 10 times get guaranteed epic, 1 - 1 gacha only get normal

[crisp zealot]

Man.. still feels rough.

In other gacha you can get 1 pull every 3 days from doing 5 mins of playing/daily quests, then hop off

But with exploration you get SO much more a day. At least 4 a day. Put in quests, events..

Plus pity is lower. Damn, what a crazy system.

[willow epoch]

unlocks at lvl 51, it gives sword trial rewards without energy cost, u can only claim twice after each boss, resets within a week

[hard vigil]

You will own nothing and be happy!

[lusty sigil]

wtf there's a pity system in this game?? it has 150 pulls 😭 oh well

[potent lake]

Reading about how the skin trading system works and not being able to mix the pity from free rolls, I don't think it would have worked here tbh. It would mean if you ever wanted to pay to get cosmetics faster you'd have to shell out the full amount, since any free rolls can not be counted towards paid pity. Not sure if I understood it 100% right.

[unkempt gazelle]

ohh

[ember ferry]

thats for game with P2w based gacha bro, this game only for skin/cosmetic

[hard vigil]

700$ to dye your hair into pure white or vibrant colors btw

[lusty sigil]

WHAT? wtf??? 700 bucks?? srsly no way =/

[willow epoch]

yes way

[ember ferry]

wuxia logic : white hair = close to godhood

[hard vigil]

Yeah, the good dye is behind the gacha, you need 10 but you get 5 per orb

Muted dyes are obtainable but natural colors only

[nocturne apex]

Tbf beside clothing hair is the most eye catching changes so it make sense for them to paywall it.

[crisp zealot]

Yes Shifu 😂🙏

Also @lusty sigil
150 pity to guarantee a legendary. But you'll probably only get a harmonic core, not an outfit. And you need 2 cores to exchange for the outfit

To guarantee the current legendary outfit with bad luck and 2 cores? You dropping like.. 800 usd? Going to 150 pity each time.

100 usd for 40 pulls.
So... you need 7 40-pulls. That's 7 x 100. 700 usd.

[ember ferry]

but the hair with base color white just need 1 core lol, to change the black base color need 2, stupid game logic

[hard vigil]

Wasn't it like 0.08% chance to get a legendary including pity per pull

[unkempt gazelle]

yeah

[junior kettle]

is it possible to get cool cosmetics f2p or no like getting the draws things u need f2p

[crisp zealot]

I'm talking about the maximums. You'll still spend like 500 usd to guarantee an outfit with 2 cores

[hard vigil]

Their rates are so good, once youve done one pity pull you unlock the draw 50 option instead of 10

[ember ferry]

only depend on luck, dont see the number, only the pity is real lol

[unkempt gazelle]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[crisp zealot]

Meow Shifu, who is that illustrious man in your disc banner

Been wanting to read that one

[unkempt gazelle]

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFF GUYS RAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA D XZBUI9ODZIUDZINOPDPZOD?NZBDU OUZJBDZNDZDDZ

[lusty sigil]

this is so ridiculous omg. thank god this isn't pay to win and purely cosmetics. jfc what were they thinking....

imma continue to play but got a bad feeling they gonna change the paywall thing.

[crisp zealot]

GET OUT. LMFAO.

AIN'T NO WAY FROM 1 PULL. LIES?

[hard vigil]

Fang yuan from reverend insanity. Its unfinished because it's banned in china but the irony is now not even the author can control fang yuan

[small rampart]

What paywall?

[crisp zealot]

GET OUTTTTTTTTTT.

My God.. 😂 have fun with 2 cores or the horse, ffs

[hard vigil]

Still with a read, 2200 chapters
Grandmaster of demonic cultivation is also great

[small rampart]

Isn't the horse 1 core?

[unkempt gazelle]

2

[crisp zealot]

I LOVE it.

Wei Wuxian forever.

[potent lake]

Definitely convert to cores, the mounts are pretty useless :p

[crisp zealot]

Man... this luck makes me want to eat my coat

[unkempt gazelle]

I love that red outfit
I just hate the tentacles
I will maybe save for the one white that is coming, not the classic but that one with a mask almost looking like a Susano

[potent lake]

Are you surprised that someone wins the lottery? 😄

[hard vigil]

Now how will the ceo of netease buy his next yacht, apologize by buying 150 pulls

[crisp zealot]

No not at all

I am filled with primordial rage (jk)

@hard vigil Yes SHIFUH

[unkempt gazelle]

I will pray for you, I swear

[willow epoch]

man fk u

[hard vigil]

Can disable that (tentacle), ive seen people with it without tentacles

[crisp zealot]

The fact you can't dye the tentacles is wild

[unkempt gazelle]

Gosh I am doubting now

[broken arch]

is me đátôn

[willow epoch]

AYO DATONNNN

[hard vigil]

Wait with pulls till they addressed the riots tbh, unless you are scy levels of rich

[tropic scarab]

I think it's in appearance > workshop > tailoring and you need an item to change it, might be wrong

[unkempt gazelle]

That I can't get just the dress is criminal

[crisp zealot]

Item to remove tentacles

The item cost: 500 usd extra 🤣🤣🤣

[unkempt gazelle]

I will live with them, I will learn how to love them

this one is kinda my dream but I think it will come in more than enough time for it to be christmas and I will get some money maybe for it

[crisp zealot]

If I got 2 cores...
1 is for white dragon hair

1 for the dragon animation for the firebreath 😂 I'd be a complete dragon

[ember ferry]

bro just sprinkle salt at the wound

[rotund turret]

Can veiled edge outfit be gifted?

[vivid merlin]

❤️

[storm plaza]

help me, i need to kill this boss to complêt main story, but she is too strong 🙁

[unkempt gazelle]

happy

[tidal spindle]

anyone here own the 40k usd boat

[crisp zealot]

Me.

[fickle stone]

Why?

[crisp zealot]

Beneath Heaven, only I can be formidable enough to possess those pixels of a beautiful boat.

Bow to my glory

[deep acorn]

I also wanna know why and do you think its worth it

[willow epoch]

search scy you'll see his reasoning

[gentle oasis]

if this real im crashing out

[crisp zealot]

I'm jk ya'll, I'm a brokie stressing over whether I can even hit the pity for a core. Lmao 😂🙏

[unkempt gazelle]

yeah but I will not ping him he is prob tired lol

[gentle oasis]

the core pity cost around $400

[dull arrow]

I got a core with my first 10 pull from the free 10 pull token the game gave out the other day 😭

[crisp zealot]

Yep.......................... sigh.

Time to secure a sugar mommy or daddy.

[unkempt gazelle]

Scy most likely said if you got the money and love the social aspect it's kinda is
You can't forget that maybe people will run away from the game and that's the worse part if you like the social aspect
He doesn't regret it as far as I know

[dull arrow]

I only have 1 core. What can I do with that

[ember ferry]

downgrade the legend diff bro

[deep acorn]

[crisp zealot]

Exchange it for an item or wait

[unkempt gazelle]

Also he is still one of the first to defend game prices compared to China despite being the owner of such a thing
Respect on that guy

[serene linden]

get stronger or die trying what you thought this was

[dull arrow]

Honestly, I'll wait for either the 9 tail skin or the shirtless skin with the moon back

[crisp zealot]

Oh yeah I think SOME legendary outfits may cost 3 cores.

[dull arrow]

What.... I spent $15. I wanna just be a mild dolphin in the 200-400 range

[hollow pivot]

... I'm going to have to sell my soul in law school and go do big law to play this game.

[unkempt gazelle]

WHAT

[crisp zealot]

Better get into corporate or smth, or you're flipped

[willow epoch]

become better call saul

[hollow pivot]

RIP

[crisp zealot]

I was going to go for Corporate, but.. ehhh. Was more interested in other areas of practice

[hollow pivot]

I'd prefer public interest or legal academia but there's not exactly a ton of money there.

[trim trail]

hello chat whats new with the game after all that happened

[willow epoch]

Nothing

[vast dew]

what's ur uid? Also don't worry about the bounty

[unkempt gazelle]

I think mods said it was something that they would collect this weekend
so offcials thing probably would happen next week

[unkempt gazelle]

i AM the bounty hunter

[hybrid lance]

Guy's
What's the best weapon combo?

• Nameless Sword + Panacea Fan
• Infernal twinblade + Mortal Rope dart

[crisp zealot]

Bro thinks bro is a bounty hunter.

But bro does not think of the hunter of bro the bounty hunt bro think of but bro bounty.

[weak hornet]

For what

[hybrid lance]

Solo

[golden tartan]

I fat fingered a decoration that cost me 22,000 commerce coin. Can I get another 25k from kitty next week?

Considering submitting a ticket to wipe my account or something. I have 700 coins left. I did all the purchases for commerce coins. I have done almost every quest. Opened almost every box.

[unkempt gazelle]

I will bro you into the wall

[crisp zealot]

Urm.

Excuse me. 🤓

I'm top 1 pvper

[hybrid lance]

🤔

[unkempt gazelle]

@willow epoch how do you survive the moment everyone is a donkey and he is just spamming projectiles

[willow epoch]

join the herd that comes out of the portal, do it fast or he melts you

[unkempt gazelle]

oh.
peak

[wide pasture]

should you pull in standard banner in this game or nah

like i have 15k green jades should i save them for any game content or just draw

[weak hornet]

sword+fan is safe but you can just run db and dart if you want to focus on one set and build without spreading your resources

[hybrid lance]

True

[candid oar]

Don’t spend save them up. What alot of people do is buy the morale chant with jade and then save up everything. They apperantly have a banner for skins which you can pull with jade which is better than the standard one.

[round heron]

What? WHERE

[wide pasture]

huh? Where
Alrdy got morale chant

[candid oar]

You mean the banner? They have run banners which people will need to spend jade on in cn. Apperantly it’s 24k to hit pity.
The standard banner sucks because you never know what you will get as a drop.

[crisp zealot]

Is that the one you unlock after like 300-500 pulls? 💀💀💀

Yeah it'll take a while homie

[wide pasture]

How do you unlock said banner?

@crisp zealot 500 pulls on prem or stand banner

Kinda like the crimson curtain outfit ill just pull

[candid oar]

Do you guys read? We don’t have that but CN had those type of banners where you can use jade for it. That’s why usually it’s recommended to save up.

[wide pasture]

so what youre saying is we may get that banner in global?

[trim trail]

yeah its rly not worth it to use those jades in the standard im ngl, theres so much u can use out of jades aside pulling.

[vast dew]

yes

[barren pumice]

i pulled the shadow sash but how do i get the cool purple effect on the blindfold am i missing something or am i just slow

[candid oar]

Oh wow Reddit links aren’t allowed 🤦‍♀️

[lost pine]

It should be there, i pulled it on my first try, and it has the effect

[barren pumice]

wtf my blindfold doesnt have it lol

[lost pine]

Maybe something in the graphic settings is turned off?

[barren pumice]

yea im abt to look rn i restarted my game just incase

[quiet swallow]

The herd doesn’t kill you?

[willow epoch]

kills u when ure not a donkey

[barren pumice]

i just checked and theres nothing like that

[quiet swallow]

There is

[barren pumice]

where?

[quiet swallow]

Appearance and then more options and then appearance visibility and then check mark “outfit effects”

[barren pumice]

thank you so much bro

[wide pasture]

are there gacha rates in the game or a fixed pity

[rain rose]

how many beads is it to get to the 150 pity in the draw?

[west cedar]

0.074 for harmonic orb and the others are like 0.045

[deep parrot]

24000

[earnest heron]

24k-27k pearls

[wide pasture]

Abyssmal rates

[vast dew]

funny this chat became more usable than main chat lmao

[rain rose]

ffs how many do you get with the $100 pack??

[deep parrot]

7200 if you count the bonus beads

[wide pasture]

whale only department that banner

[west cedar]

I got lucky twice, idk if I can consider it lucky lol, but I spent 300$ before all this sht and got an orb at 40 pulls and yesterday I put my last 100$ and got second orb just 3 pulls from pity left

[earnest heron]

they don't give you extra beads

[small rampart]

You can technically get to pity as a F2P player, it'll just be very slow

[rain rose]

huh anyone think that is gonna change or no lol

[deep parrot]

"additional gift: 1200"

[west cedar]

Yes you do bud, its 7200 for 100$

[wide pasture]

i mean you couldve gotten an outfit instead of the orb which would be luckier but urs is better than 300 pulls for 2 orbs

which apparently if my math is mathing has 80% chance of happening??

yeah youre lucky then

[west cedar]

Is exactly why I was pushing the pity lol, and got a damn orb just 3 pulls left, but hey, Imma save for the TongDao effects lol

And if netease fix this whole situation, I might just put another pity on next banner

[earnest heron]

If

[rain rose]

do you think the pity will Cary over to next draw or restart

[deep parrot]

it carries over i think

[small rampart]

It carries over

[flat zinc]

The draw count doesn’t reset

[wide pasture]

Is that the katana

lowk strategic sword alrdy doing the katana job whats a katana gonna do

[west cedar]

Yeah, it has sick effects and I think it also changes the sounds of the parry

[willow epoch]

hengdao yes, its a single edge sword thicker than the normal sword

[candid oar]

Charging 5000 more pearls because of a victory animation is wild. 🤣 you hardly ever see it unless you pvp. Someone summed up the gacha system in CN.

[flat zinc]

They’re not fixing anything they’re just being greedy and treating the global players unfairly

[trim crown]

I'll throw another 200 at this game once they fix the ping

[willow epoch]

meanwhile marvel rivals skins with mvps are like 25 usd, not 160usd, theyre just straight up greedy

[west cedar]

This is fear mongering, where can I read that the devs regretted about those skins?

[wide pasture]

they sat and talked about it over evening coffee

source : me

[trim crown]

Not really, it's resource intensive to create the cutscenes and put them in game

[candid oar]

I think they said something regarding that to CN players. Because they didn’t had set prices at the beginning. I am not a CN player I can’t show you any proof. I just reposting what I found on Reddit.

[west cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/lmfao-lmao-laughing-hahaha-hahahaha-gif-15955120

[granite wedge]

the way they are NOT speaking up

[flat zinc]

You can have a gacha separately for the cutscene though. Throwing it in the same group as the outfit is just ludicrous especially when the outfit isn’t that crazy. Or just make it an exchange only item

[trim crown]

That I agree with completely

[candid oar]

Feel free to contact the original poster regarding it.

[earnest heron]

yeah they could have just removed it and not scammed us, Net ease you never get anything right

[spare solar]

no they could just leave it as it is on cn

[wide pasture]

I mean the game has to earn guys

[deft flax]

Can someone explain to me why the price goes up every pull? This is predatory as heck

[willow epoch]

its the devs most likely, MR is netease too they dont have 160usd skins

[west cedar]

Resource intensive for a 3 second intro?? Ahahhaha

[flat zinc]

It will but I’d also like some cool cosmetics without having to spend a kidney

[royal anvil]

its them testing the waters, this same outfit is in the normal shop in cn version

[earnest heron]

yeah absolutely but not like this

[trim crown]

I'm glad I'm not a fan of those this season, I did pick up a good fit, but was able up buy it all direct but the eye wear which I got third pull

[granite wedge]

ok but hear me out if in china they did it one way at one price and it has been doing well enough to be ported to global why make something that wasnt gacha, now gacha and way more expensive

[willow epoch]

greed

[wanton lily]

3 second intro that almost cost as much as a whole a*s game. 5000 pearl is wild.

[flat zinc]

That’s because their philosophy is “Western people must make more money so let’s make everything literally 10x as expensive”

[spare solar]

if global server was first and devs pulled the same on cn people, they would eat netease alive. But here on global people start telling things like "games has to earn"

[trim crown]

It's an OPTIONAL thing

[willow epoch]

predatory practices, albeit optional, is still not a good thing.

[wide pasture]

i mean i kinda expected some things to be locked for the big spenders like white hair or victory cutscenes for example.

[earnest heron]

From Monday we won't have them anymore, trust 🤞

[deep parrot]

just cosmetics fortunately

[trim crown]

I was able to get exactly what I wanted for appearance for 100, and all had over 2k pearls left to blow on pulls

[west cedar]

True that, I was thinking of just buying WoW midnight collectors

[granite wedge]

i think its also partly because of the rise of gacha recently the game release in 2024 in cn they followed a more traditional mmorpg route with mostly shop cosmetic that are optional, nowadays any game can be slapped with a gacha because gambling make them money and is addictive

[small rampart]

You think maintaining a server for one country costs the same as maintaining servers for the rest of the world?

[willow epoch]

let guangguang (MR dev) handle this, watch the skin prices drop from 25 to 50 usd max

[flat zinc]

If a game actively promotes customization as a core part of the experience, then expensive cosmetics aren’t really ‘optional’. they’re part of what makes players feel included.

[wanton lily]

I'm looking at stellar blade on sale right now. 47 buck for a full game or an 81 dollar victory animation. Tough choice.

[trim crown]

Don't overspend then get upset you lost at gambling.

[wide pasture]

hold on cook

[west cedar]

Netease should have never ever leave the handle to an overseas company, thats why rivals has succeded so much, they are in the handle

[spare solar]

what is this clowning, currency already cost more for global than for cn, their own game marvel rivals didnt do it i wonder why.

[small rampart]

Unreal levels of delusion

[willow epoch]

ong, being able to buy skins without breaking bank is so nice

[flat zinc]

You can call me delusional but that doesn’t address the actual argument

[wide pasture]

rivals lowk falling off tho and its doing it faster than any prev mainstream shooter

[small rampart]

Making a cash shop outfit into a gacha is bad yeah but I'm just saying don't expect everything in global to be the same price as CN
A lot of people are saying they want 1:1 with CN monetization, that's simply not going to happen

[trim crown]

It's no argument, you gambled and lost

[granite wedge]

ill say im not that annoyed yet cuz i personally think the gacha locked item are pretty mid even the veil edge one neon blue accessory are a pain to style

[west cedar]

Every RPG game endgame is cosmetics, FF14, WoW, GW2, you name it

[spare solar]

i want them to stick to cn model, i was ready to buy this outfit for 7400 until i knew it isnt the same on cn. Now i dont want to give them money unless they change it to how it was

[small rampart]

You think playing dress up is a core part of the game which has hundreds of hours of free gameplay? People are just never satisfied huh
There are plenty of free earnable outfits that you can customize but you want everything to be cheap?
Just because there are expensive outfits in the game doesn't mean you need to gamble on them
Don't blame your lack of self control on the game

[trim crown]

And it takes MONTHS to gather outfits in those games, this games been out barely a week

[deep parrot]

there are plenty of skins that are like 60 echo beads, some are like 15-20 dollar skins for like 1200 echo beads tho

[granite wedge]

but i also think its important to not most of these still feature some ingame economy to allow cosmetic trough sheer grind or even better trough weaving

[rain rose]

wait so at launch there was 3 skins with cut scenes I hope we get the other ones soon I wanna see them

[flat zinc]

The issue isn’t that outfits are expensive or that I want everything cheap. The issue is that the game uses its cosmetics as a main engagement hook. When cosmetics are tied into events, social play, and player identity, they become a lot less optional than you’re making them sound.

[alpine wagon]

Woe, outfit gacha be upon ye

[wide pasture]

thats not even the point of his argument 😭😭

[granite wedge]

you dont know what true grind is until you max out ff14 weaving

[earnest heron]

How much do 2k pearl skins cost?

[small rampart]

You don't seem to understand what 'optional' means

[trim crown]

I don't think the point he's trying to make is a point, so I'm ignoring it and addressing the reality

[flat zinc]

I also never said I gambled btw, you’re just saying this with no ground.

[distant fiber]

Wasn't it like close to 40 ish usd

[west cedar]

Is like, the same cycle, over and over, people complain about the disregard of the GL servers being overcharged and someone just comes to this chat and says "ugh you gambled you lost"

[rain rose]

I am an avid gacha player lmfao blue lock pwc took me for a big spin

[wide pasture]

he has a point tho

[vast mirage]

It's optional but still the fact that the price is 3x still there bro dont be a jerk defending this greedy

[spare solar]

I mean sure you can play without outfits at all, let alone paid ones, but they wouldnt be main monetization if customization wast big part of the game for most people. Though it doesnt matter at all if its optional in current scam situation

[earnest heron]

oh okay

[hardy geyser]

This is one of the stupidest things ive read you can already heavily customize your character for free

[flat zinc]

I understand what optional means. I’m saying that something can be optional mechanically but still feel pressured psychologically because of how the game markets it. Those two things can both be true.

[willow epoch]

lmao its not just even the veiled edge issue, the other issue is the black market shop to trade gacha skins arent there, the free 10 pull CN received when the game reached 2m steam players on launch weren't given to global, same with launch 10 pulls and 1k jade, nothing was given, the predatory is insane, global is just getting milked,even scy, the boat owner seems this unfair

[granite wedge]

around 25 bucks now id like to say most netease game eventually get other top up means that allow of cheaper,mostly legal, currency

[trim crown]

I got the free 10 pull

[vast mirage]

dont be stupid that's was given because of the price drama if you have an ability to read go read an annoucement channel

[wide pasture]

tbh i think theyd be more successful catering to mid level spenders since global probs has that demographic % a lot more than CN

[willow epoch]

thats the compensation due to server lag and global complaints due to veiled edge predatory 2x increase issue

[alpine wagon]

And we are still missing another 10 and them fixing the core part of the issue

[earnest heron]

They will definitely talk next week, even the Chinese are saying it's unfair

[west cedar]

They gave 20 free pulls on CN because of our success, they gave us 10 free pulls because we fought for it lol

[mystic maple]

10 fireworks

[spare solar]

imagine how even chinese stick against it, but theres a lot of global players whos ok with it

[trim crown]

The game has been out a WEEK. 95% of the playerbase is f2p and still get the entire rest of the game

[willow epoch]

exactly, not everyone outside US can afford dollar prices localization, shi my market is USD localized and im telling u its expensive

[trim trail]

im gonna buy a month pass i cant take it nymoe LMFAOO

[small rampart]

If you talk to CN players, most of them will say that skin trading was not a good system

[unkempt gazelle]

We will def. get more pull in the future since it's the easiest reward to give
Not something big but you can get something bif out of it with luck
Question is when lol

[chrome wharf]

same

[earnest heron]

They definitely play Genshin Impact or have been traumatized by other Predatory gachas

[trim crown]

You use the gacha pity system, farm up and get it where you're guaranteed a legendary, then when your skin comes, you pull. You just want it today, and so you think it's greedy because the today option costs $$$

[willow epoch]

then tell me the reasons why skin trading isnt a good system

[vast mirage]

arguing with this guy is not getting anywhere from f2p still get the entire game , it's optional , i get the 10 pull if you have an ability to critical thinking about the problem you will know what we're talking about but if you didnt have an ability to critical thinking or at least i call stupid just silence

[spare solar]

maybe global players deserved to be scammed after all? Seeing all these delulu takes...

[chrome wharf]

Imagine 12k pearl in a developing country cost the same as US

[unkempt gazelle]

I heard some people were abusing it in a way that wasn’t intended
But that’s all I heard

[gentle oasis]

i heard 7 sweatshop programmer and animator passed away creating the victory animation 💀

[trim trail]

delulu takes in what way lol

[willow epoch]

i dont have to imagine, i live in it, 12k pearl is 80% of the average salary here

[chrome wharf]

Not surprised, its china afterall

[west cedar]

They got overworked like it was an Anime bro, crunched like GTA 6 devs

[deep parrot]

id rather skin trading be taken away than a bug that allows skin duping and harmonic cores being redeemed like crazy

[spare solar]

like ameircans have higher salaries, so its okay
like cosmetic is optional so scam is okay
like devs have to make money
etc etc

[flat zinc]

Yeah those are the same 3 takes that have been circulating

[gentle oasis]

fr, those 5 seconds animation took like... $5 million USD to make.. so yeah guys, its definitely understandable

[trim crown]

Save up and build up, stop expecting to look like a whale when you can't afford groceries

[willow epoch]

id rather them fix it like actual devs do

[deep parrot]

could be exactly what they are doing though

[vast mirage]

bro didnt even understand the point we're talking just shut up stupid boy

[small rampart]

The economy was inflated by whales to the point that regular players could barely use the system and money laundering was a massive issue to the point where the entire system was unavailable for long periods and many people were getting banned
Skin trading can be a good system, but the skin trading this game has was not working well at all
Talk to CN players, they'll all tell you it's understandable why it was removed for global

[flat zinc]

This is just ragebait don’t interact guys

[west cedar]

I just stop paying mind lol, they are being obtuse on purpose

[chrome wharf]

Wait ppl was also saying that netease give cn free exit lag app but for us global players its paid?

[rain rose]

you think maybe eventually they'll make it to where we can buy outfit parts individually like the hair per say there some hair styles I want but not the out fit that comes with it?

[trim crown]

I disagree with your point. That's a thing. You don't go for the first season gachas unless you're a whale.

[mystic maple]

chinese people earn more than americans

[willow epoch]

aint nobody ever said we want to look like a whale, most of the arguments here WANT affordable prices for non gacha skins that arent supposed to be gacha such as veiled edge, not turn the GACHA 150 pulls and 40k usd ones into an affordable prices

[granite wedge]

cmon the same dev who gave us barely any compensation for doing us over for cash actually working on the game? like theyre litteraly just translating the game atp and even then theyre not doing that good of a job if its being time gated and many mingame still have chinese in them

[hidden wedge]

Does it really cost 40k usd to get the celestial mortal outfit?

[gentle oasis]

yes

[spare solar]

cn always favorite child of companies because cn playerbase start huge backlashes the moment they getting scammed + they use death threats etc in contrast with global players being divide every time

[flat zinc]

Potentially yeah, it’s absurd

[deep parrot]

59k actually if you are unlucky and hit all pities with no outfits

[trim crown]

You can get awesome outfits for around 50. Everything in hearing is the people are upset they can't get everything they want for 50

[west cedar]

95% house ownership btw

[willow epoch]

remove the trading and bring back the black market dude that gives free skins then, thats alot better, just remove the trading

[small rampart]

You can also get awesome outfits for a dollar each or literally free
Most of the discounted store outfits are also dyeable so you can further customize it for a unique look
People act like you have to walk around looking like a beggar if you don't whale

[vast mirage]

BECAUSE THE OUTFIT IS 35$ IN CN BUT IN GLOBAL IT'S COST 100$ WHAT THE ACUTAL SENTENCE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IDIOT

[chrome wharf]

Picture from ongbal’s yt

[flat zinc]

Are you even hearing yourself? You think 50 for an outfit is a reasonable price for an outfit, THAT is the entire point and problem we’re trying to address.

[hidden wedge]

Wow thats crazy🙃 I just got the game yesterday so far im enjoying it - confusing but wow the prices are ridiculous at that 😅

[unkempt gazelle]

Celestial mortal outfit is the only one that will cost this much for years
It’s really made for people that don’t wanna be the same as other around or those who invested a lot into the game and its social features
It shouldn’t be accounted into the whole price thing

[trim crown]

Because you don't live in China, welcome to gacha

[gentle oasis]

guys please.. the 5 second victory cutscene takes $10 million to produce.. they hired keanu reaves to act on the victory screen so its understandable

[vast mirage]

talking to this guy is like talking to a wall

[west cedar]

Its the witcher 4 lvl production through Unreal Engine 6

[unkempt gazelle]

Pretty sure people in Thailand or similar countries or again Africa and similar regions are not really living in luxury compared to China lol

[trim crown]

It's a FREE game. You didn't pay for any of it. You do have too pay for the outfits. You're mad you're not getting it all for free

[earnest heron]

Did you know that the price difference between China and global markets is small?

[mystic maple]

Africa is more technologically advanced than China

[rain rose]

@deep parrot wait what are the celestial mortal outfits is that the red one in the draw or somthing else?

[deep parrot]

something else

[willow epoch]

they hired the entire Hollywood industry for motion capture,even hired directors such as christopher nolan for the cinematic, ludwig gorransson for the sound effects, thats why the 30usd Veiled Edge turned into 160 usd gacha

[safe coral]

I’m so used to dropping like 600 only to not even get the skin I want, I’ve become desensitized to these prices 🫩

[flat zinc]

I never said I want all the outfits for free. You’re arguing against something I didn’t say. Imtalking about how the game pushes cosmetics for absurd prices, not demanding freebies.

[unkempt gazelle]

Dirigeants are
People aren’t

@rain rose it’s the one linked with the boat that cost 175 harmonic core, so 40k euros

[trim crown]

And I'm saying pay for the cosmetic if you want it.

[gentle oasis]

nope... we are mad because its unfair, I have the outfit and I am still complaining, scy has a 40K boat and still said that global is treated unfairly

[mystic maple]

sunk cost fallacy: the game

[willow epoch]

the one u get with the 40k usd boat

[rain rose]

huh i dont think ive seen that one yet

[flat zinc]

And that’s why you are part of the problem, part of the group of people who would let NetEase step over them like dirt because you believe 50 bucks for an outfit is normalised.

[chrome wharf]

An outfit which is probably more expensive that the ones we wear irl

[gentle oasis]

yes, its very resource intensive... in order to put on the animation, you need an RTX 5090 to run it, otherwise the game would crash

[next acorn]

so uhhh how many of u have actually bought the boat

[trim crown]

Ok, is 50 for a game unreasonable?

[earnest heron]

but if you get the skin with the pity at 150....they even give you hair right?

[small rampart]

-> Has a problem with unfair monetization
-> Proceeds to directly support said unfair monetization by giving the devs more money

The one actual way you can protest is by voting with your wallets, and you chose to yap on social media instead like that would do anything

[mystic maple]

netease hired scientists from harvard to make sure global spends the most money

[flat zinc]

For a cosmetic item f yeah that’s expensive.

[rain rose]

kinda slick idk about the 59k beads for it tho 🤔 I love the red outfit

[trim trail]

the crimson sand looks so good dude

[gentle oasis]

nah, I already have 28800 EB when the game released.. like 10 minutes it comes out.. I get the veiled sword because idk it was a scam

[next acorn]

yk if they decided to make things cheaper they'd be making wayyy more money rn

[trim crown]

But you get the game for free. So you pay the 50 for the cosmetic. Otherwise go buy a game that's around 100 now and farm up the free stuff in that

[ruby cobalt]

tbh, if u want a cosmetic, pay for it. Id its more than 100$ i understood its wayyy expensive. But between 1-60$ its fine. U have a 1$ option and a 60$ options

[spare solar]

except it would do everything if community united. Asian players do it all the time when companies try to scam them

[unkempt gazelle]

40k EUROS
and you got a whole boat to invit people and have trip etc
it's really for people that wants to be big social figures of the game

[earnest heron]

I wanted to buy it but I didn't like the sails, yes those....

[deep parrot]

tbf, if you think the outfit is overpriced, dont buy it, there are neat skins that cost less, theres even some skins that cost 60 echo beads, which is $1, and some neat skins you can get for free by just playing the game.